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home so wonderful he doesn't want to wander in i don't want you single people to feel left out. here's a grab bag of pat robertson on a wide range of topics. >> now it looks like 30% of women are involved in pornography. >> yeah. >> those who are involved in martial arts before they start are actually inhaling some demon spirit. some of them do that by the way. >> i think next, breaking news. president obama in his own words on his plans for syria. what he means by consequences
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for the assad regime. a montana man convicted of raping his 14-year-old student, how could a judge only sentence him to 30 days in prison? an exclusive interview tonight with the victim's mother. and four famous words, i have a dream. dr. martin luther king's vision 50 years later. has the dream come true? let's go outfront. i'm jessica yellin in for erin burnett. outfront tonight breaking news. making the case for war. president obama directly addressed the possibility of a strike against syria just moments ago in an interview with pbs' the news hour. >> we have not yet made a decision but the international norm against the use of chemical weapons needs to be kept in
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place. and nobody disputes or hardly anybody disputes that chemical weapons were used on a large scale in syria against civilian populations. we have looked at all of the evidence and we do not believe the opposition possessed nuclear weapons or chemical weapons of that sort. we do not believe that given the delivery systems using rockets that the opposition could have carried out these attacks. we have concluded that the syrian government carried these out, and if so, there need to be international consequences. we are consulting with allies and international community. i have no interest in open ended conflict in syria. we have to make sure that when countries break international norms that they are held accountable. i think it is important that if,
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in fact, we make a choice to have repercussions for the use of chemical weapons then the assad regime involved in a civil war, trying to protect itself, will have received a pretty strong signal that in fact it better not do it again. and that doesn't solve all the problems inside of syria. and, you know, it doesn't obviously end the death of innocent civilians inside of syria. and we hope that, in fact, ultimately a political transition can take place inside of syria. we are prepared to work with anybody, the russians and others to try to bring the parties together to resolve the conflict. but we want the assad regime to understand that by using chemical weapons on a large scale against your own people, against women, against infants, against children that you are not only breaking international
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norms and standards of decency but you are also creating a situation where u.s. national interests are affected. and that needs to stop. >> senator bob corker is the top republican on the foreign relations committee. hi, senator. always good to see you. >> good evening. >> you have spoken with administration officials i know a few times over the past few days about syria. we heard the president say if the u.s. launches a strike on syria the goal is to quote send a signal to assad. in your view, is that a solid enough military objective? >> well, look, we issued a warning or the president issued a warning some time ago regarding crossing this red line. they believe the red line has been crossed. i have a classified briefing in the morning here. i came back up for a meeting or two on this topic, actually.
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other meetings in addition. i look forward to having that classified briefing for the case to be laid out as to the fact that the assad regime has actually done this and i believe they have based on the evidence that i know publicly. i do think it is important for us to cause international norms to be adhered to. i want to say i have been very forward on this saying that i do not want it on the other hand to change the policy that we have which is to support the vetted moderate opposition on the ground, not with boots on the ground but by equipping and training. that has been very slow to be forthcoming. again, i don't want what we may be getting ready to do with syria to take us away from the stated strategy and policy of insuring that we don't get directly involved in any kind of quagmire relative to civil war. i think what the president is proposing, a surgical
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proportional strike is called for here assuming the intelligence briefing that i get justify those actions. >> so it is justified. do you think the president has a clear syria policy? >> i think the president has been very slow to come to the table. i know that we passed out of the foreign relations committee a policy and i very much supported that. the administration has based on public comments that they have made have really embraced a policy very similar to what we passed out. but what we are doing is being done, jessica, covertly so we really don't know the details of how we are actually arming the opposition groups. i was just there two weeks ago and i know that those arms had still not begun to flow. i will say i think the administration has been
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frustratingly slow in helping build the capacity, not with our men and women on the ground, but through equipping and training the opposition. so i think our policy so far candidly has not met the test but i do believe it is beginning to take shape and i know that we are -- >> i want to play something else the president said tonight to pbs about the targeted missile strikes which you are saying you support. listen to this. >> if, in fact, we can take limited, tailored approaches, not getting drawn into a long conflict, not a repetition of iraq which i know a lot of people are worried about, but if we are saying in a clear and decisive but very limited way, we send a shot across the bow saying stop doing this, that can have a positive impact on our national security over the long
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term and may have a positive impact on the sense that chemical weapons are not used again on innocent civilians. >> we all know the saying you can't get a little bit pregnant. are you prepared to support the president and the u.s. military if this does bleed into a larger conflict? >> no. i mean, i do not want it to bleed into a larger conflict. i have been very clear. i have had multiple conversations with the administration about that. and there is a call that has been set up to walk through plans in the near future. let me put it that way. so i will be hearing more clearly exactly what the intentions are, exactly, hopefully, how we are going to go through this without causing ourselves to be wrapped up in a quagmire that takes us to a place we do not want to go. i do think there's a way of achieving that, and i have stated that publicly.
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i do support that type of effort as long as we know that that is the goal and that we are not in any way implicating ourselves or getting ourselves more deeply involved in something that is nothing more than today it is a civil war. obviously we would like to see the vetted opposition groups survive and win. i don't want to see boots on the ground or see us mired in a conflict much deeper. i will say, if i could, one more thing, the administration has consulted and we have been aggressive candidly and being consulted meaning we made calls to the administration over the course of friday, sunday, heard from the secretary of state on tuesday and more activity while i'm here tomorrow. i do think we would be so much better off if the administration would come to congress, call everybody back and let congress authorize this activity. because as you just asked a minute ago, jessica, am i willing to do x? i really do think that this is one of the cases where time allows for congress to come
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back, to give an authorization. i think they have met the test, i am talking about the administration from the standpoint of what the war powers resolution says and that is that they must consult with congress. i believe that they are doing that. i think we would be on so much stronger footing with this if they would call us back in and ask for a real authorization from congress. >> thank you, senator. i suspect that they are going to consult but not ask for the authorization. we hope you come back and share with us what you learn. senator corker, thanks so much for being with us. and still to come, more on the crisis in syria. we take you inside the country where we have exclusive video of mass graves in the after math of the chemical weapons attack. plus nidal hasan is sentenced to death. for the mass shooting at ft. hood. but will the sentence ever be carried out? and dogs running wild in detroit. the new problem facing america's largest bankrupt city.
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our second story outfront, the decision to go to war. president obama said tonight he has not yet determined whether or not to strike syria but he did lay out his justification for u.s. involvement. >> when you start talking about chemical weapons in a country that has the largest stock pile of chemical weapons in the world where over time their control over chemical weapons may erode, where they're allied to known terrorist organizations that have in the past targeted the united states, then there is a
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prospect, a possibility in which chemical weapons that can have devastating effects could be directed at us. and we want to make sure that that does not happen. >> fred joins us from damascus and here in new york nick peyton walsh. you spent time with the rebels in syria. and christopher harmer, senior naval analyst at the institute for study of war. very impressive, all of you. nick, i would like to start with you, president obama also talked today about the future of syria. let's listen and talk about all of this. >> what has happened there is tragic. although i have called for assad to leave and make sure that we have a transitional government that can be inclusive in syria,
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what i have also concluded is that direct military engagement and involvement would not help the situation on the ground. >> his rationale for going in or for a strike is the clearest i have heard to date talking about the danger of chemical weapons. you have spent time with the rebels and you know a bit about the situation in syria. if the chemical weapons were to fall into the hands of syrian rebels is there a good guy there, somebody we feel comfortable controlling the arsenal? >> in a word, no. the secular liberal rebels are shattered. they are powerless if you compare them to the radical groups. it comes down to the dilemma here. if you are going to launch a strike like this you are degrading the regime. you need to stay together to safe guard these chemical weapons in some way. you can't put u.s. boots on the ground to secure them, and you
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can't bomb them without potential for environmental catastrophe. so you try to balance options. you need the regime to look after weapons until you find an alternative. but you want to teach them a lesson, as well. so no real good option. >> it seems like we are working against our own objective. degrading assad but we don't want the extremists. the rebels are extremists you're saying? >> there's a functioning islamic caliphate on the border of turkey, as well. the key thing they have to weigh out, he wants the signal to be clear. you push the assad regime too hard, you take the air force out in 30 minutes perhaps. if you actually degrade them too heavily the people to seize are potentially al qaeda linked militants. >> you're credited and i'm told not correctly but credited with coming up with a cruise missile-like strike on syria similar to the one the president might be considering for hitting assad right now.
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you have said it is a bad idea. i want to ask you, what is a better idea? >> first off, let's start by saying this is a humanitarian crisis of epic proportions. i speak in analytical terms. because that's what i do, i'm a strategic analyst. we're dealing with a humanitarian crisis. 100,000 dead people. 2 million displaced persons or refugees. there are no good options here. there are bad options, worse options and horrible options. the plan i came up with was an appropriate response prior to chemical weapons being used. today, it's wholly inadequate to address the situation. >> he wants to do something. the president clearly wants to do something. what is the best option that involves the least use of u.s. treasure and the least threat to u.s. lives? >> the best option is to decisively strike against assad. use the cruise missile attack. you take out his air force. use further cruise missile attacks to degrade his
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conventional military. at the same time significantly increase the military aid we are giving to the secular rebels. nick points out they have been fractured. that is true. al qaeda has superior funding, they have superior organization, they have superior discipline. >> let me bring in fred real quick. fred is the one in damascus risking really his life to bring us amazing reporting. we have exclusive video of mass graves in syria from one of the areas allegedly hit by a chemical weapons attack. does it look like the assad regime believes an attack is imminent and are they doing anything to try to avoid it? >> it certainly looks like they are slowly coming to the conclusion that an attack is imminent. there are reports that the syrian u.n. ambassador was asked about whether or not the headquarters of the air force and the army might have moved, a large part of their staff and hardware out of those areas and possibly into other areas. there were some reports on news agencies saying possibly some of
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the artillery here might have been abandoned by forces and might have been brought away. that artillery has been used in the past couple of days around the clock to pound the outskirts of damascus, which is the rebel controlled territory and also the place where is these chemical weapons attacks allegedly happened. if you look at damascus now it is very, very quiet. there is the possibility that they have stopped firing for now and there might be some military movements going on to try to bring some of the hardware into safety. whether or not that will help the syrian military is really up in the air. i can tell you that people that i speak to on the ground are also preparing for possible u.s. air strikes. they don't think they would be in danger of american rockets but they do fear the fact that this could change the balance on the battlefield and they fear islamist rebels. exactly the kind nick was talking about. >> just a human level, do you
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feel safe or is there an eerie kind of quiet there? >> well, most of the time we feel safe here. there are areas that you go to where there is mortar fire going on where you are not that sure. especially if you go towards the outskirts into the contested areas you realize it is quite dangerous out there. i was on the front line with syrian forces with the assad regime a couple of days ago. they are under fire there all the time. they're firing back, as well. this civil war really is one that is fought very, very tough in a very tough way. you do hear this artillery going off the entire time, as well. the outskirts of damascus is a really tough place to be at this point in time. when you go out there and go on the front line there isn't much safety to speak of. >> fred, you're doing amazing work. keep it up. thanks so much for your reporting. dogs running wild in detroit. what can a bankrupt city do ant
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its stray dog epidemic? a montana teacher is convicted of raping a 14-year-old student but is sentenced to just a month in prison. the victim's mother comes outfront with the reaction to that punishment. [ male announcer ] these days, a small business can save by sharing. like carpools... polly wants to know if we can pick her up. yeah, we can make room. yeah. [ male announcer ] space. yes, we're loving this communal seating. it's great. [ male announcer ] the best thing to share? a data plan. at&t mobile share for business. one bucket of data for everyone on the plan, unlimited talk and text on smart phones. now, everyone's in the spirit of sharing. hey, can i borrow your boat this weekend? no. [ male announcer ] share more. save more. at&t mobile share for business. ♪
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our third story outfront, detroit's stray dog epidemic. it has been just a month since detroit became the biggest u.s. city ever to file bankruptcy. and poppy harlow finds human beings aren't the only motor city residents feeling the sting. >> i just found it today.
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>> reporter: you just found this dog? >> yeah, running up the street. >> reporter: in america's biggest bankrupt city where people are fleeing in droves there is another problem, thousands upon thousands of dogs roaming detroit's streets. >> he is a stray. he is so thin. >> reporter: most are pit bulls starving for food and affection. >> somebody just moved out, left him behind. he was tied up in the backyard. >> reporter: this is a young stray pit bull brought in completely malnourished, injured. having a really hard time walking. unfortunately, this is something that they see here every single day. one of the biggest problems facing detroit and the stray dogs is the fact that so many are not spayed or neutered so the problem persists. >> they are disposable in people's minds. they don't vaccinate, they don't spay or neuter. >> reporter: kristen houston is educating owners to spay and neuter and providing free food for their dogs. >> a lot of people have lost
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their homes, lost their jobs and they don't have the funds. they love their animals but, you know, it is very hard to feed their own kids and their family. >> what are you going to do? >> exactly. >> reporter: are there more people living on this street or more stray dog? >> right now more stray dogs. in all of the houses on the street, all are empty except for one. >> reporter: he took us to deserted homes to see the strays living there. would tearing down these abandoned homes help solve the problem? >> absolutely. people are quickly absorbing animals and passing them on to other people. there is no sense of guardianship and responsibility of having an animal. >> reporter: we found this dog in the backyard here. the issue is, the house is burned out. it is obviously an abandoned home. there is trash everywhere. the house next door is burnt down. we have no idea how long the dog
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has been here. or if the dog even has an owner. detroit animal control is overwhelmed. >> in one week they could be euthanized. >> that's possible. >> reporter: 70% are euthanized. >> this is an example of a discarded animal that someone let go. >> reporter: malachi jackson has seen a lot. too much, in his 19 years doing this. how bad is the problem? >> the problem is as bad as the economic problem, i think. the whole society is pretty bad. people don't have jobs. they use animals to build revenue and protect their property. times are just tough. >> reporter: tough to say the least, and like so much else in detroit, man's best friend is waiting to be rescued. poppy harlow, cnn. >> great story. ahead 50 years since martin luther king delivered his famous "i have a dream" speech. so has his dream come true?
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welcome back to the second half of "outfront." we start with stories where we focus on our own reporting from the front lines. a 13-member jury deliberated for about two hours before recommending major nidal hasan be put to death. hasan was convicted of 13 counts of murderer and 32 counts of
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attempted murder in a shooting rampage in fort hood texas. hasan said nothing as the decision was read. the verdict goes to an army general who will get to decide whether to accept the sentence but it requires approval from the president. as we reported the military has not carried out a capital punishment since 1961. florida prosecutors were not able to convict george zimmerman but made an example of his wife today. shellie zimmerman pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge for perjury for lying to a judge about being poor when it turns out the couple had about $135,000 at the time. by accepting this plea deal, she avoided potential prison time. instead she will get probation for one year and will have to pay court costs. this comes a day after her husband's legal team said they will ask the state to cover as much as $300,000 in legal expenses after he was acquitted in the murder of trayvon martin.
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in russia authorities have seized a painting which shows vladimir putin in lingerie. the artist reportedly pled the country. it is against the law in russia to insult politicians. here is where we are stumped. putin appears in the image to be wearing a negligee which is more than we often see him wearing. here he is shirtless and fishing. shirtless and seeing a doctor because he wanted us to know that he hurt his shoulder during judo practice. shirtless and swimming which is reasonable. what about shirtless and feeding a horse and hunting? go figure. this one just in. members of martin luther king's family was in an accident this afternoon not far from the martin luther king monument where they had just been celebrating the 50th anniversary on the march on washington.
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one person on the bus tells us a police escort was with the bus when a car came right at it. there were children and seniors on the bus and everybody was thrown out of their seats. that brings us to our fourth story outfront. i have a dream. 50 years to the day that martin luther king jr. delivered his call for justice from the steps of the lincoln memorial the nation's first african-american president, barack obama stood in the same spot to commemorate that historic day. has dr. king's dream been fully realized? joe johns is out front. >> reporter: on king's dream, the president's buzz word today was progress. >> to dismiss the magnitude of this progress, to suggest as some sometimes do that little
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has changed, that dishonors the courage and the sacrifice of those who paid the price to march in those years. >> reporter: mr. obama says there is still a lot of work to do for everyone especially when it comes to jobs and the economy. >> to win that battle, to answer that call, this remains our great unfinished business. >> reporter: the evidence of racial economic disparity is not pretty. the unemployment rate for blacks remains almost twice that for whites. about 30% fewer blacks own homes than their white counterparts. the president of the urban league agrees that the white house still has unfinished business. >> we would like to see him tackle this issue of the economic underclass, poverty, jobs, the need to build an economy to lift up because economic disparities, the gap
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between the rich and the poor, the gap between black and white has not markedly changed since 1963. >> reporter: and the reverend jesse jackson, a contemporary of dr. king who was with him when he was assassinated in memphis says if king were alive, he would be pressuring the white house. >> he would feel proud of barack obama. that would be a big deal. but there would be attention between the agenda of political order and the agenda of change. >> outfront to talk about it martin luther king's niece, alveta king. thanks to both of you for being with us. crystal, i would like to ask you black unemployment rate is double the white unemployment rate. the president mentioned that in his speech today. i'm wondering if you think the president has done enough to help? >> no, i don't. and i think it's interesting
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whenever the president talks about unemployment and the need for jobs he talks about it as if he is a voyeur to his own administration. he is divorced from what's happening. frankly, he is not creating policies to uplift all americans but particularly black americans who gave him over 95% -- over 90% let's say of the vote each time and he's abandoned any agenda for him. i agree with jesse jackson for the first time if you can believe that in that martin luther king would be horrified not only at the lack of focus on opportunity policies which king was all about but also the politics of low expectation and victimization that this president continues to tell black americans, you are not good enough. you can't get a voter i.d. it is because of racial profiling that violence is at epidemic proportions. one final thing, it is because of, you know, you are just a
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victim. well, no. you are having 73% of your babies born to unmarried families. so i think king would say wait a minute. you are a testament to my dream, barack obama, but we need to have constructive criticism to black americans so they can reach that mountain top. that is what i fought for, equality. >> dr. king you are a member of the king family and an honor to have you with us on this important day. i wonder if you would like to respond to that. do you think the president does overly victimize the black community? >> i definitely believe that the victimization is not going to be our answer. i grew up in the king family legacy, the family that nurtured dr. martin luther king jr. and we were taught the work ethic and to produce and perform. he wanted equal opportunities and that's all. we didn't want a handout. the programs that continue to point to racism and have us feel as though we are victims that will not increase our
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opportunities for jobs, good education or decent housing. that is exactly what we were marching for 50 years ago. i did not go to the march. my parents did. i was old enough and i grew up during that era. so all of the programs and the race crying and everything that is being offered is not going to provide those basic human needs that we all have a right to. >> so the president today called economic fairness the, quote, great unfinished business on the march on washington. dr. king, what do you think the president should do to finish that effort? >> well, honestly i know because he mentioned the hhs mandate and wanted people to believe my uncle would be happy about that. >> you mean obama care? >> yes. obama care, excuse me. with obama care my uncle, of course, would want fair and adequate medical care for
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everyone. so do i. what is being offered in obama care, for instance, free contraceptives and easy access to abortions. we want people to be healthy, nutritional information, how to bring your blood pressure down, how not to have diabetes. >> what would you like to see him do to continue to expand economic opportunity? >> i would like to see him support school choice and vouchers. we all know that blacks who are trapped in violent riddled inner cities are disproportionately using school vouchers and choice to escape failing schools to get an education. i would like to see the president support comprehensive tax reform. my grandfather was from st. kitts. he came here and he started a drycleaning business, and he sent three kids to college. >> so you're promoting your domestic agendas, each of you. >> well, no, i think the president -- all the things that alveta talked about, but real policies -- we all know education is the great equalizer. i would like to see the
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president focus on education, tax policies, and frankly, getting rid of obama care so people will hire again and blacks can have jobs and not supporting amnesty. >> he does have three years to work on some of the other issues. thanks to both of you for your time. appreciate it. and still to come, a shocking punishment. a montana teacher receives a 30-day prison sentence for raping a teenage student. the victim's mother is outfront, next. for pain and swelling? apply cold therapy in the first 24 hours. but not just any cold. i only use new thermacare® cold wraps. targettemp technology delivers a consistent, therapeutic cold to stop pain and start healing. new thermacare® cold wraps. a better way to treat pain.
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a fifth story outfront, growing outrage over a 30-day sentence for rape. tonight calls are intensifying for a judge to step down after he sentenced a former montana teacher to 30 days in prison for raping his 14-year-old student who later committed suicide. in a moment we are going to speak exclusively to the victim's mother who is outraged over this sentence. >> reporter: this was to be a moment of justice, teacher stacy
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ram bolt was charged with raping his student. he was 49 at the time. prosecutors wanted a 20-year sentence. instead, the judge gave rambold just one month for the crime. >> i was floored. i thought there was a minimum sentence. i don't know. my faith in the justice system is gone. >> reporter: especially when you hear the details. 14-year-old shareece morales was a freshman at billings high school. prosecutors say he seduced her and began a month-long sexual relationship. police find out. rambold was arrested and charged. as the case lagged through the justice system, shareece, just shy of her 17th birthday, committed suicide. with the victim dead prosecutors struck this deal with rambold. confess to one rape, stay away
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from children and they would dismiss the charges. rambold faced the judge this week because he violated that deal. yet the judge only gave him 31 days minus one day served in jail. why? in court, the judge said shareece morales seemed older than her chronological age. later he told cnn that was not the best choice of words adding it was not a violent rape like in the movies but was a rape and should not have happened. as far as rambold he will be a free man in less than 30 days. >> and outfront is the mother. miss hanlon, i can't imagine what you're going through right now. our condolences go out to you and your family. your daughter shareece was raped.
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we know she later took her own life and that her teacher, stacy rambold only got a month in prison. what went through your mind when you heard his sentence? >> i was horrified. horrified. there were no words so i had to leave. >> left the courtroom. i want to know what shocked us was the judge defended his sentence saying that your daughter seemed, in his words, older than her chronological age and was in as much of control of the situation as the teacher. and we just received new words from the judge explaining those remarks. would you listen to this for just a moment if you would. >> in the rambold sentencing i made references to the victim's age and control.
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i'm not sure just what i was attempting to say at that point but it didn't come out correct. what i said was demeaning to all women, not what i believe in. and irrelevant to the sentencing. i owe all of our fellow citizens an apology. >> an apology there. what is your reaction when you hear that? >> hmmm. he broke the law. he doesn't owe anybody an apology. he broke the law. she was 14. she never consented. i never consented. the crime was done. he confessed. and chronological age is irrelevant. he broke the law. he confessed, and he got to walk away. >> yeah.
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so ma'am, i don't want this to be too painful for you. i just want to be gentle here. how did you learn that your daughter had been raped by this man? had you even heard of him before? had she spoken about him to you? >> not really. i seen his phone number in her numbers, because i used to keep track of her numbers all the time, because she was a teenager, and i needed to know. but i just thought it was a girl. his name is stacey. i thought it was a girl. i found out from a church member. and pressed charges. >> and then what happened? >> rambold was put on paid leave. she kept attending school. she was miserable, though, but she kept going back. until finally she couldn't go back anymore. she was smart, so she gave it a shot.
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she tried hard. she tried hard to stay in school, and it just took too long. it took too much out of her. >> ma'am, it sounds creepy, but you get the sense that rambold sought out your daughter and lured her into a relationship? >> yeah. i believe so. she was an easy target for him, i think. >> all right. again, ma'am, our heart breaks for you. we're grateful for your time and appreciate -- >> thank you. >> -- what you're going through. again, thank you for being with us. still to come, eight years after katrina and the heartbreak is not ending in new orleans. çñ
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our sixth story outfront, devastation and heartbreak in new orleans eight years after katrina. on august 29th, 2005, hurricane katrina forever changed the crescent city when it made landfall and left hundreds dead, and more than 200,000 homes damaged. many returned and rebuilt. but still, eight years later, some residents are in a fight for their homes.
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rosa flores is outfront with this story. ♪ >> reporter: danell and adell celebrated when they finished repairing their home. >> you had to do what you had to do. >> reporter: they look forward to sewing these suits in their family home, a tradition for four generations among members of the indian tribe. >> this was the living room area. >> reporter: but today they're without their historic home once again, lost this time to foreclosure. after losing your home to katrina, you weren't expecting something like this to happen again. >> you could digest tragedy from mother nature. but when you have this kind of storm to take place, i can't
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digest that. >> reporter: the troubles began when their son became very ill. all while they were rebuilding after another hurricane. fearful of falling behind on their mortgage, they asked their bank to renegotiate their loan. >> it's july 11, 2009. we are pleased to advise you that your loan modification has been approved. >> reporter: yet each month, bank of america kept billing them. the higher amount from the old mortgage. she kept paying on time, as bank reps assured him it was just a mistake. did you make all of those payments? >> made all of those payments. >> reporter: on time? >> on time. >> reporter: a year later, the bank foreclosed any way. taking the home where he grew up, where his son was born. the bank sold off their home for $48,000, less than half of what they owed. >> these are some of the files of people that we've helped over the years since katrina.
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>> reporter: james perry leads an organization that fights foreclosures. >> they're so proud of what they accomplished because they worked so hard to get there. it didn't matter how many hurricanes came, those families rebuilt because they were there to stay. >> reporter: in a statement, bank of america said we apologize to them for the events that clearly should not have happened the way they did. while we did not provide the service they expected from us, we're confident this is a unique case. the federal government accused 13 banks, including bank of america, with unsound foreclosure practices in 2009 and '10. the banks admitted no wrong doing but paid $3.6 billion in settlement money. their cut? $2,000. bank of america also said that it's working with them to find a fair way to compensate them for their loss. but the family says they have no agreement with the bank as of
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