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of testimony the trial has ended. they still have the option to appeal. stay with cnn for continuing coverage of the case. i am anderson cooper. thanks for watching. new this morning, one of the top al qaeda operatives believed to be responsible for the embassy bombings is in custody. we have global coverage of the mission. listen to that wind. a blizzard in south dakota brings 30 inches of snow.
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we can say what we want to -- >> oh, miley. that is the performance that is lighting up social media this morning. she channelled her michele bachmann as she takes a swipe at the republican party and the government shutdown. i am poppy harlow. >> and i am victor blackwell. it's not certain if the sides are even talking to one another. >> not a lot of progress at all. the stalemate continues in washington. we have a lot of news today. a big news day. a lot of new developments of course on the global war on terrorism. u.s. strikes a huge blow on
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al qaeda. >> american sources -- american forces, rather, have carried out raids. we found out about this late yesterday. they went after high value targets. we will start in libya, and one of the streets -- on the streets of tripoli, and that's where the specialist forces captured a suspected al qaeda leader. you may not know his name but he is one of the fbi's most wanted terrorists. you see his picture there. there is a $5 million award leading to his capture. >> he is suspected in the 1998 twin bombings in the embassy of kenya and insaw nia.
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>> the united states of america will never stop in its effort to hold those accountable, and those members of al qaeda and other terrorists organizations -- >> cnn international correspondent, nic robertson, joins us. you have new developments coming in the last few minutes about al libby and his capture. >> his wife said his capture look less than a minute. she reports that ten masked men approached her husband and he apparently tried to get into his vehicle to get a handgun and was unable to do that and was completely taken by surprise.
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we understand no fires were shot at him during his capture, but it appeared broad daylight, early morning, his wife witness to it. what kind of information could he offer up about al qaeda? >> he is believed to have moved back to al qaeda -- libya. and senior al qaeda leaders were setting operatives back to libya. he is believed to have been retired from active service, if you will, with al qaeda, but it was understood he is likely to have a good picture of al
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qaeda's strength in north libya. >> the question being that he is in u.s. custody facing trial in new york. what is the likelihood that at this point and this juncture he would give up any of that critical information? >> it's not clear that he will. certainly he has left a trail in the past of information that is going to be useful, one would expect for prosecutors to prosecute him for that. he lived in britain for a short time. there was a raid on the property that he lived in in england, and a document several hundred pages known as the manchester manual was discovered, and whether or not he will offer up if he has that active and current
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information, hugely important, and in real terms right now foreign intelligence officials rather than the historic prosecution. >> we do have to go, but give us and our viewers a sense of the importance and magnitude of the capture? >> al qaeda in north africa represents a growing threat to europe and the u.s. to capture him with the information he may have will be valuable in unraveling some of that, and not just the fact that he is highly responsible, a senior planner in those 1998 twin embassy bombings. >> thank you very much. 12 americans were among the more than 200 people who died, who were murdered on august 7th, 1998 in the embassy bombings. two of them were father and son. you see them pictured right
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there. julian bartly, the elder, and his son was a 20-year-old intern. >> and edith bartly is the brother and daughter. she works with the victims involved in the bombing in 1998. we have her on the phone with us this morning. edith, it's good to have you with us. the attack killed your father and brother, and the person has been caught, and what is your feeling? >> our families want to thank the u.s. intelligence community, and we know it's a firm signal around the globe that as our government is still waiting
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through a standstill right now we are still vigilant as a country and remain focused on international terrorists, and we are not going to step down at all. it's extremely important the embassy bombings happened over 15 years ago, and yet they are still connected to much of our activity around the globe today, and particularly in light of the recent incidents in nairobi, just two weeks ago, and 9/11, and these are all connected in some way in terms of our presence around the globe. being a threat to others. and we have to remain vigilant as a country and our national security needs to remain vigilant. >> edith i am so sorry about your loss. 15 years later it's no easier. and in a sense you said it's helpful, and at the same time you say it's a sobering reminder. why is that?
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>> it's a sobering reminder on several fronts. one, as a nation, we have to do more to keep our congress and our everyday american citizen aware of the important work that our diplomats do across the globe with military personnel and our intelligence community. we have to insure that our embassies around the globe are secure, and funding issues are on going right now, and congress on a host of issues, but our presence around the globe has to be strong, and it has to be secure. many times we for get that until something happens, until we made a move like this and been able to capture somebody, or unfortunately, if we have body bags come home of americans. we have got to stay vigilant. it's a sobering reminder that there are people who put their lives at stake across the globe for this country and when
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particulwe can we need to track down those who are responsible. >> bin laden was indicted on more than 200 counts for the twin bombings in '98. he was as we know, killed two years ago. i wonder if there is a different feeling that al liby has been captured and will stand trial. >> we are certainly happy bin laden has been eliminated and we are certainly very pleased to know that we can have somebody who is company khaptured and fo wealth of information that could be available. you can't put a price on that. and so it is certainly important that this person was captured and we would like to see this person brought through, you
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know, brought to trial. that's important to our families. it's important to have that publicly take place or in whatever venue is the best venue that is decided. >> will you go to the trial? is that an important thing for you to be present for? >> it's extremely important. when we had the trial in 2001 and then we had a second trial just a few years ago, our families were present and in '01 we were present every day and every week, and that was a long trial, and we will do that again. it's important for people who are in this country and across the globe to understand that americans and other people that are nationalities are impact and they're people, and their lives have been impacted and we don't
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want our government to for get the human side. our diplomatic families deserve support. >> you have been fighting for the past 13-plus years and that's compensation for the families of the victims of the '98 embassy bombings. last i heard that was held up in congress. can you tell us where that stands now? >> the work is much broader. we have been focused to insure that there is compensation and benefits available to all diplomatic families who have a loved one kill in the line of duty, similar to our military personnel, and this has been an on going effort. there have been three bills passed through the house, and we hope this year with all of the focus and al qaeda publicly, and
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we know our public is constantly focused whether or not we hear about it, and the westgate mall, which i have been to the mall many times and with the great development recently in libya. our diplomatic families deserve support just like the military and we have to insure that takes place. >> again, your father, brother, and two other americans killed there at the u.s. embassy in kenya, and we thank you for speaking with us and our condolences for your loss. >> thank you, and our condolences around the world to those people who have been
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impacted by al qaeda. thank you for covering it. >> thank you. >> she talked about a bill she is trying to get through congress to get compensation for the families over the years. speaking of stalemate, there is a stalemate, six days of the shutdown. we will talk about that coming up in a moment. maybe there is some breakthrough on the horizon. 130 calories 7 grams of protein the fiber one caramel nut protein bar. the fiber one if yand you're talking toevere rheuyour rheumatologistike me, about trying or adding a biologic. this is humira, adalimumab. this is humira working to help relieve my pain. this is humira helping me through the twists and turns. this is humira helping to protect my joints from further damage. doctors have been prescribing humira for over ten years. humira works by targeting and helping to block
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there is a new proposal to end the government shutdown.
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>> one of the senators floats a solution. many democrats back the idea. >> collins would lower pension employments for employers for the short term. it gives a face-saving change for obama care. we will have to see how that goes. >> jill dougherty. i chuckle when we say that could bring us to an agreement, and we have been waiting and have not seen any progress. what about now? >> we have the congress obviously still is not ready for a full end to the shutdown, but they are doing it piece by piece. we have some details that we will be bringing you in just a couple minutes. >> i know also -- >> yeah, ted cruz. he continues to urge the house to defund obama care? >> yeah, i wanted to give you
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those -- at least three things that have happened most recently on saturday. one is in the piecemeal department, you have more than 90% of the workers at dod going back, and that's approximately 300 people going back. they will be recalled, so that's one good development. and yesterday the house voted to give backpay to those furloughed and that will happen once the shutdown ends and the other has to do with military chaplains, who are also furloughed and they are trying to make it possible for them to do their jobs as well. >> maybe some small agreement here, but -- >> baby steps. >> well, all those dod workers, that's a significant number. >> yeah, and the back pay. how about ted cruz? >> well, we still don't have too much agreement from there. there is a lot of sniping coming still from senator cruz about
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24 minutes after the hour. we talked about this raid in libya with al liby. >> yeah, a villa was stormed in southern somalia, and believed to be a hideout for top militant commander for the terrorists group al shabab. that's the terror group that carried out last month's bloody attack on the shopping mall in kenya. >> al shabab says that one of its members was killed in the
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raid. is that right? >> reporter: yes, that's what we are hearing from al shabab. they claim one of their members was killed, and they did not give us a sense of how senior this person was but they faced heavy gun battle, and in that attack the u.s. says they acknowledge that they did sustain heavy gunfire and said they have a sense they did inflict casualties but they don't know whether they were successful and they got the man they said that they went in after, victor. >> tell us why the secrecy, and the details we know, the u.s. forecasts coming in at sunrise by speedboat, and what else do
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we know? >> reporter: most people are taking a good guess the man they were after was the supreme leader of al shabab. he was the man that was intreuzic. they had a territory footprint in somalia and able to provide a safe haven, and we believe he was in the house and we don't have a sense if he escaped, but local fisherman said the attack was as follows, that in the early hours of saturday morning they saw a speedboat taking off from a naval ship, and they say it was a large ship that looked like a war ship coming towards the shore and climbing towards this villa, and really sustained gunfire after that and then it becomes a little confused. the u.s. officials we spoke to say it was pretty heavy gunfire
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bottom of the hour. welcome back, everybody. i am poppy harlow. >> i am victor blackwell. the u.s. military is holding a terror leader, senior al qaeda operative, abu anas al liby was captured in tripoli. his wife says he was seized before he could even reach for his gun. al liby stands accused for the
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twin embassy bombings. number two, u.s. forces stormed a villa frequented by top members of the terror grab of al shabab. a fire fight broke out and a al shabab spokesman says one of the members was killed. and one of the bikers accused of beating a suv driver has been charged. another key suspect, he is the one seen smashing the window with his helmet, and he is also facing assault charges. two weeks into fall, and south dakota gets walloped by a blizzard. two feet of snow in some parts
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of the state. cnn spoke with one woman who was trapped in her car there for 20 hours. many roads are still closed. the cold front is heading east. it's expected to drop a lot of rain across the great lakes. let's bring in alexandra steele. >> heavy rain, cincinnati, an inch of rain already. this is the cold front on the backside was all that snow. we saw the pictures of rapid city downtown, 23 inches, two feet of snow, the number two greatest snowfall they have ever seen. an incredible amount. now the snow is a done deal with this and the front is moving through and along the front, especially today, it's kind of over one another, so expect flash flooding. louisville, kentucky, flash flood emergency. so here is the front as it moves eastward today. you can see it doesn't get a lot
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of eastward progression. it's moving east and northeast at the same time. 10:00 tonight, there it is through the ohio valley. and commutes on monday night not that pleasant along the northeast coast. certainly delays at the airports and it continues to push eastward. now, here it's still tropical depression karen, and maximum sustained of 30, and more or less it will become a remnant low today. where are the thunderstorms? what has happened and similar to other tropical storms we have seen this year, it doesn't look like we are going to see much of it and it will cruise the coast here. back to you. >> thank you very much. we're learning new details this hour on the capture of al libyas, a senior al qaeda
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operative. >> perhaps what is more relevant is that he is a former senior member of the islamic fighting group, a man that abu anas al liby was taken in, and before he gravitated back towards al qaeda. appreciate you coming, sir. you have a lot of details about this that you can share with us just developing now. first tell us about the capture that happened on saturday. >> well, we know that he was a target, you know, for the last 15 years. he was hunted by the u.s. authorities. let's put it this way. and from my perspective, i think it's a very crystal clear message, you know, from the u.s. authorities to the different terrorists groups all over the world, we are never going to for
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get any attacks on american assets on u.s. soil or from outside, and they think president obama is a little soft in this business, and i think it's the other way around. if you take an account what happened in somalia -- by the way, i think it's a masterpiece of operations, it's like a special ops. i think it's very important for the business, in the business of fighting against terrorists groups all over the world because it goes against al qaeda, and i am sure everybody thought al qaeda will convert hard, and the u.s. has been defeated in its war against al qaeda, and what happened yesterday it's the opposite. >> take us to the moment yesterday. walk us through. where did it happen and where
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did it happen? you know the family well. >> yeah, because of time, i think he lost maybe you know part of his skills from a security perspective, so when he -- yeah, after he was at prayer in the morning, i think 6:00 local time, on his way back to his home, i think a special unit there, about ten people in three cars, i believe, they were waiting for him and just snatched him within a few seconds, and he even failed to reach his gun. that's what happened. his wife, she is so you know, i think part of the incident, and then they just disappeared and they left no evidence as if nothing happened there. it's like 10 out of 10, it's a masterpiece in terms of how somebody can craft such an operation. >> let's clarify for our viewers how you know this? did you know personally al hrli,
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and if so how well? >> it's a directive from his family, and allow me to say i believe i am the first person on the earth to break the news to the media. >> you say it comes collectly from his family. was it wife who is it that gave you the details? frankly, there was the witnesses and the u.s. forces there. we don't have that perspective. share with our viewers exactly the detail you got from his family and from whom if you can. >> ma'am, i am sorry, i am afraid i can't disclose exactly which person because it has legal consequences and for other issues, it has to do with safety, and i strongly believe his family should not pay any price for what he did or his political choices, because his family suffered a lot, his wife and kids, they suffered a lot for the last 20 years. i certainly believe we should keep them away, and we are pr
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professionals in the field and need to concentrate on him, and i was in contact with his family and they told me details about the issue and everything. >> understood. the last 15 years since the '98 bombing, what has he been doing and has there been a sense of inevitability that some day he is coming? >> yeah, he returned to his home. >> did he think one day they are coming back or did he think i am off and scott free and they are not going to find me? >> an interesting question. a lot of people they don't know exactly when he was involved in this operation, you know, in east africa. according to my info, and i am not giving legal evidence because -- by the way, i am dealing with other persons, part of this cell through their lawyers, okay, and so i am aware of some of the details through the whole case.
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the information, they send people there in kenya, and they established the pace, it's like a safe house in urban areas, and they spent a few months there to just, you know, specify the cells, and in 1993, they finalize everything including what is the best time to attack, during the day, and they attacked at the same time, just like in 1993. and it gives us an idea of al qaeda, how they operate, when they would really like to carry on spectacular attacks. >> what has he been doing since 1998? the last 15 years. >> 1995, in sudan, i was there myself, and it's not a secret i
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was one of the leaders of the islamic fighting group. we don't have any business in the global jihad or whatever, and he decided to quit his career with al qaeda in 1995 and he joined my group, the fighting group, and since then he was just part of the lig struggle against gadhafi, and it's like what happened, history in the early '90s, but the key person here, a moroccan, an al qaeda member. i think he is in the u.s. now and he is going to be the main witness against al liby, and he mentioned his name in his house. in 1993, i think maybe -- well,
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maybe '96, '95, he came to london as a refugee -- political refugee, and he spent a few years here in 2000, and he found out the u.s. authorities, they linked him to the operation, and then just he decided to leave the uk and ended up in afghanistan, and the taliban was in control of '95 afghan territory. when he went back to tripoli, he was kind of isolated, and because i believe other people there think of him as a liability, i am not sure if he returned back to his old group, but if i say it's an old nightmare hunted him down.
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show you some of the highlights. she poked fun over the controversial of her vma performance, but did that blunt humor give the 20-year-old pop sensation the last laugh? >> live from new york, it's saturday night. >> love her or hater. >> ladies and gentlemen, miley cyrus. >> miley cyrus took the stage once again, this time taking aim at herself. >> in case anybody is concerned, you should know there will be no twerki twerking, i used to think it was cool but now that white people are doing -- >> and she did a performance
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thank you for starting your morning with us. >> we have much more ahead on "new day," that starts right now. good morning, everybody. i am poppy harlow. >> i am victor blackwell. 7:00 here on the east coast, and a very early 4:00 on the west coast. big fish in the battle of al qaeda. american commandoes snatched abu anas al liby off the streets in apparently broad daylight. barbara, you have been on this story since it broke and since the beginning. first, tell us about this operation and exactly how it happened. obviously very strategically planned, but in the middle of broad daylight? >> apparently so poppy. victor, good morning. went like clock work according to the sources we are talking
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to, and liby's wife watched it from the window, and it went like clock work. a key al qaeda operative. a $5 million reward for information leading to his capture. it's alleged in the 1998 bombing to the u.s. embassies in east africa. let's look at what is in front of our face here. what we know is it was u.s. special operations forces that snatched him. that meant they were in libya, a place they are not -- they don't publicly acknowledge that they operate in. they clearly had him under surveillance. they had intelligence about when and where he would be and they had a plan, they had the method to get into tripoli and get cars and have transportation and a method to get him out. this clearly was a planned
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operation. >> a person who knows him well said it was a 10 out of 10 for the u.s. military, it happened so quickly. barbara, we know he was taken to a location outside of libya, and no details as far appears, and will liby be brought back for trial to the u.s.? >> my colleague, evan perez, has been looking into this and from the justice department's points of view, we expect him to be returned to the federal district in new york state which is the element for holding tries and prosecutions for the types of terrorists cases, expect for him to turn up there at some point and for a prosecution federally to go forward. >> u.s. forces went into libya, and the government -- how many details the libyan government
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knew of or not, but you say the new face of al qaeda and the ungoverned spaces, and weak governments trying to get back on their feet that arguably don't have a handle on this. what does that tell us about the broader significance of this? >> well, i think that maybe it's what is next to come, you know. it's no secret that the obama administration is looking to try and get to the suspected attacker still in libya on that benghazi attack, the diplomatic compound a year ago. the libyan government because it's not very strong at this point has not been able or willing, perhaps, to go after the people though many of them are known to still be in libya. this is a real case study in a country that, you know, is very weak in its central government, and weak in its ability to enact it's own anti-terrorism operation and a lot of pressures on it from inside libya. at some point the u.s. decided
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it would act on its own. >> took about 15 years, but then when the capture was ordered it was less than a minute. barbara starr at the pentagon this morning. keep us posted. thank you, barbara. another big raid in somalia this time. some 3,000 miles from libya. we're learning now it happened on friday, and we are just learning about it now, a navy s.e.a.l. team zoomed in by speedboat on their mark. a seaside villa. top militant commanders from al shabab stay at that villa. a fierce gunfire broke out. the terror group claimed responsibility for last month's shocking attack at the shopping mall in kenya. this is new video showing the armed militants inside the mall. a u.s. official says no navy s.e.a.l.s were injured in friday's raid. a member of al shabab may be dead and a big player in al
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qaeda is under lock and key. i want you to listen to what secretary of state john kerry said a short time ago. >> we hope that this makes clear that the united states of america will never stop in its effort to hold those accountable who conduct acts of terror and those members of al qaeda and other terrorists organizations literally run and hide. >> want to bring in our cnn national security correspondent. two big raids happening. tell us more about abu anas al liby. maybe there are people that don't know his name or role in al qaeda, and clear that up for us. >> victor, good morning. i think, you know, he is somebody who joined al qaeda very early on, and he is alleged to have done some of the surveillance early on, on the u.s. embassy in nairobi, which
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was attacked in '98, and that surveillance may have been in the '94 and '95 time period, and he disappeared 2000 before authorities raided his house, and at that time he was living in manchester in northern england and he has been on the run since and his trail has gone to afghanistan and other countries and eventually he ended up, we believe, in 2010 in libya where he has been living. >> do we know if he had any active role in the workings of al qaeda or any of the groups that are connected to them recently, since 2010, moving back to libya, if he had from that point any involvement? >> i am -- i don't think we know, victor. i don't think, for instance, that there is any belief that he was involved in planning the benghazi attack on the u.s. government facility there. certainly he has been a long-time member of al qaeda,
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but i don't think it's clear what exactly he has been doing in tripoli for the last three years. >> what can we gather from the timing of these two operations, the one in somalia and libya? any indication that they were connected, and if so why now? >> victor, i don't think there is any indication that they were connected. i think it is simply a coincidence. it's obvious from the libya operation that this has been planned for many, many weeks. they would have been surveying him and working out the operation that snatched him. the operation, obviously, in somalia against shabab, and that's something that would have been planned in a much more quick planning cycle. i don't think -- i think it's just one of the coincidences. >> there were reports also that al liby looked so much like bin laden that he was actually used
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as a decoy. what do you know about that? >> i had not heard that before, victor. certainly bin laden, you know, has reasons to have people act as a decoy for him but i had not heard that before. >> let's talk about al shabab and the connection to al qaeda. over the last 15 or 20 years or so people know al qaeda, they know the name and they can connect the actions and the terror acts, and they are just learning about al shabab, most people since that attack at the mall in kenya. what is their relationship now? over the years it has been tumultuous and turbulent at the very least. >> i think now the relationship is closer than it ever has been. in february of 2012 al qaeda and al shabab formerly announced their merger and it was something they had been discussing for a while, and bin laden was urging al shabab not
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to formerly alie itself with al qaeda forming it would be bad for raising money and attract a lot of negative attention and he is right. there is no better way to put your sights of the united states. and then to go ahead and do an attack in kenya which clearly was meant to attack westerners, and so many westerners gathered in the westgate mall there, and so by formerly merging with al qaeda and doing an attack in which americans were targeted, this group has put its sights of the united states. >> from an intelligence perspecti perspective, how big of a deal is this capture? >> i think it's pretty big. $5 million is an interesting
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vmas and in case anybody missed it, here was one of the low-key moments. i got a lot of letters from angry mothers, turned on fathers -- and this is true, i actually got a complaint from the inventor of the giant foam finger, but it's okay, i gave him tickets to tonight's show, so we're all good, right, jeff? now, i don't apologize for my vma performance, if i owe anybody an apology, it's those people that make the bottom half shirts. i am not going to do hanna montana, but i can give you an update on what she has been up to. she was murdered. we have been back and forth on this, but guys, i don't think we should be doing the wrecking
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ball sketch. >> what? my mom is here. >> it's good when you laugh at yourself, right? >> yep. >> miley cyrus hosting, and love her or hater, she did not shy away from making fun of herself, and she spoofed headlines including the government shutdown. she played congresswoman michele bachmann, it's a parody video that poked fun at lawmakers and obama care. >> that has people buzzing. even john boehner made a late-night appearance. >> a little bit. >> we can do what we want to ♪ ♪ >> it's our party we can do what we want ♪ ♪ it's our party we can say what we want ♪ ♪ it's our party we can stop what we want, vote what we want,
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de-fund what we want ♪ >> was miley's performance a hit or miss? let's ask kim joining us live from new york, and she is the senior editor of "in touch weekly." >> you did not play the best part of that song, law tkau de, the republican party, i can't stop singing that. she did a great job. she poked fun at herself and was funny, and she showed she can act and so much more than just taking her clothes off and she is in control of her career, and anybody thought she was a hot mess, she is a strategic heart mess and she knows what he is doing and marketing herself. >> she has a big album coming out on tuesday. look at the timing here. look at the social media buzz. everybody is talking about her.
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they have been for the past month since the vmas, and some would argue it's a brilliant business move. the young miley cyrus came out to talk to the current miley cyr cyrus. listen. >> what is so scandalous about your performance? >> maybe it has to do with your outfit. when are you going to put your clothes on? >> these are my clothes. >> hello. >> do you think she tackled the controversy over the vma performance in the right way? >> yeah. she also defended herself. she said i am not going to apologize, and she said in the sketch where she met the old miley, i am only 20 and i need
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to take time and make mistakes, and she is only 20 and very savvy, and understands the business, and she overcame a lot, and she was almost in every sketch, and a lot of hosts do not appear in the opening sketch and she is one of the few that she did that. she could host the show and perform. she did a great job performing, too. if there was anybody out there that said this girl is out of control and doesn't know what she is doing, i think she showed those people she knows exactly what she is doing. >> she played a beautiful song, her accoustic guitar performance, and do you think that proves that she, you know, is just more outrageous, has these costumes and things that she is totally in control of when she wants to be like that and when she wants to be like this, how she was on "snl" last night. >> yeah, she did wrecking ball,
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and only the "snl" cast members were naked on the show, and then she did the accoustic performance, she doesn't need the stuffed teddy bears or the naked attire. to perform and host the show at the same time, not a lot of people can do that. to get out there and do it so well, for a 20-year-old, who has been doing so much publicity and work leading up to her album dropping on tuesday, i think if there is any nay sayers out there, you may not agree with her perfesona, everybody is listening. >> yeah, and she can really sing. >> yes. >> thank you. we're headed to a break, but first let's check in for sanjay gupta for what is coming up at
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insiaoeuide libya, and they are calling it a kidnapping. we will have much more at 8:00. >> we will see you back here at the top of the hour. thank you. welcome to a very special edition of "sgmd." signups for the new insurance went into affect this week. it's a historic moment. we decided to spend the week traveling the country on the cnn express, from atlanta to greeneville and lexington and here in baltimore to get a
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glimpse how the affordable care act will impact you. listen to the jimmy kimmel poll this week. >> we are talking about health care today. which plan do you support, obama care or the affordable care act? >> so the affordable care act is more affordable than obama care? >> the name says it all. >> do you think the insurance companies should be able to preclude people with existing conditions? >> no. >> do you agree with companies with 50 or more should provide health care? >> i do. >> do you know that obama care and the affordable care act are the same thing? >> no, they are not. thanks, you made me look stupid. >> a lot of people seemingly don't even try to hide this. in fact a recent poll found
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two-thirds of americans admit they don't know the basics about this, and i had the opportunity to hear from hundreds of people as i travelled around the country this week. we hear a lot of rhetoric about how much the affordable care act will hurt the economy but i wanted to know do you have any idea of how much based on a preventive care portion of this act, how much a return on the investment could help the economy? >> a lot of people tried to answer that question, and trying to figure out over the long run could it save the health care system money and there is an institution known as the congressional budget office that says over ten years, and these are projections, it could save money. while the cost may be higher initially, this is part of what the whole idea of bending the
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cost curve down, and basically it says if we are a healthier america because more people are getting preventive care and not getting sick in the first place, that could save us money. >> i want to know if a person's age would impact the premiums, whether it's going to be higher for lower people or lower, or just how that was going to work out? >> i think the best way to sort of explain that is that while you can't be discriminated against based on preexisting conditions. they will ask you your gender, male or female, and they will ask your age. it develops a community rating, and so what they want to do is you pay the same price as another person in your community as of your gender and age and doesn't matter what preexisting conditions you have, and it's
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your age that will reflect the premium. >> i have insurance through my employer, and i just found out i am getting laid off and hoping i could talk to you what is available for me and what the next options are? >> by january of 2014, you are going to be required to have health care insurance or pay a penalty. if you have money to be able to pay for it, you can buy it. if you don't, you can get the subsidies. you may fall into a position if you have a job again before that happens you may get insurance through your employer again, and that's probably the best option, still. people who have insurance through their employer, their lives don't need to change a lot as a result of what is happening. if you are still unable to have a job or get insurance through your employer, you need to go to health care.gov. >> i have dental, not health
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insurance. >> were you on your parents' health plan prior? >> yes. >> do you know what this means for you as a 23-year-old? >> i am not. >> i think there is good news for you, you can now stay on your parents' plan until age 26, so you get three more years of health coverage, and that's not something you have to go out and buy, and had you heard that before? >> no, i have not. you are the baearer of good new. next stop, kentucky. the senators are republicans and are against the plan, but not the governor. >> we have 640,000 uninsured kentuckyens in our state, and now we have the opportunity for the first time in history to
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provide health insurance, affordable health insurance for every single kentuckien. that's going to be a transform tea for us. we have some of the worst ranks in history. we have made small changes to try and improve things, but we never had that major transform tea type of event. i want to tell you we did reach out to senator paul, senator mcconnell, and all of them declined to speak about it this week. i did get to visit with matt bevin, who runs a small business and running for mitch mcconnell's senate seat. >> this is a tax on the poor. those subsidies for three years will cover them, for three
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years, and when the subsidy is gone, then it becomes an increase in taxes. that's the primarily reason i am opposed to this. >> now, the rollout has been a little bumpy. there is no secret. traffic on the signup sites have been heavier than expect that had that 4.7 million people went to healthcare.gov in just the 24 hours. 8:00 a.m. eastern, the doors fling open on the new marketplace where millions of americans should be able to sign up for health insurance, but within minutes -- thud, the site started going down. overwhelmed, they say, by heavy traffic. new york state, internal service error. washington state, the same thing. the federal website is handling signups for 36 states, including pennsylvania, and that's where the 25-year-old lauren heartily tried to sign up. >> on the third page i asked
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for, you know, security questions, but the page just wasn't populated. so there is some sort of technical glitch and it was not working. >> by midday the president and his critics were weighing in. >> like every new law and product roll out there will be glitches in the signup process along the way that we will fix. i have been saying this from the start. and we're going to be speeding things up in the next few hours to handle all the demand that exceeds anything that we had expected. >> in a system that is full of glitches, that's the word most frequently being use today, and a glitch means it's not working. >> we did check back in with lauren, and she has not logged back on yet, and she is not worried because she says she has time, and the enrollment periods is six month long. the enrollment period goes until the end of march. the glitches and backlog seemed
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millions of americans are now for the first time able to purchase insurance with no questions asked. we asked cnn's tom foreman to take a look how the new marketplace looks and what the insurance plans may look like as
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well. >> sanjay, despite all the monumental changes to health care most of us who have insurance and that is most of us probably won't see much change, maybe some modifications but this is really about the 48 million people who do not have insurance. about half of whom who are expected to buy it through the health care market places. about 7 million by the end of the year, i can point out to give you an idea of how fast it will move along. how will the market places operate? emergency a store you can go in and buy one of different four types of plans. if you buy at the lowest level, the bronze level, for example, your premium each month will be fairly low, but if you go to the doctor, your co-pay and deductible and other fees will be higher. platinum, just the opposite. you will pay a higher monthly premium, but at the doctors' offices all the fees will be lower. this will not be the same state
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to state to state because there will be local companies involved and that could make a difference. this part should be the same no matter where you go in the country. you will not have higher premiums if you get sick, and you should not be denied coverage if you are already sick, and you will not pay fees for preventive care. you get a mammogram and your kids get vaccinations and you get a general physical and you will not pay extra for any of that in the plan, and still there's a lot of money involved in all of this and the government wants to help people paying for it, and a lot of people that don't have insurance, the government wants to help. they are going to give you a refund to help pay for this. nonetheless, no matter how you get there, everybody is going to be involved. doesn't even matter if you live in one of the dozens of states that have said they want nothing to do with obama care. you are still going to be part of the program.
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the federal government will administer the marketplace in your state instead of the state. that's simply how it's going to work, but you will have to get involved because if you don't pick a plan, if you don't get involved, you are going to be fined by the federal government. that's how this is going to work. so if urban insuyou are uninsur country, you have to make a decision. >> some of this is enough to make you sick as well. there are criminals out there taking advantage of all the confusion around the law to rip often witnessing consumers. zane asher is here. what should people be looking out for? >> the affordable care act represents the opportunity of a decade for the scam artist. there are a number of scammers. fake health insurance sites.
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they may have the appearance of a real one but they are fake. you misspell the exchange by one letter, and you are redirected to one of the wrong sites. most end in .gov. an impersonator may say pay us $100 or $200 and we'll help you sign up, so watch out for everybody asking for money. and seniors often do become targets with these kinds of things, and they will say they lose coverage if they don't get a new medicare card. bottom line, you do not need a new medicare card with obama care. it's important that people know that and they tell their parents the same thing.
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and lastly, watch out for companies offering a cheaper alternative to insurance. the so-called medical discount plans are bogus and falsely claim to exempt you to pheumini insurance coverage. >> is there anything you can do if you think you came across one of the bogus scams? >> yeah, you can file a complaint with your state attorney general or local consumer protection agency, but, listen, under normal circumstances you would actually be able to file a complaint with the ftc, but because of the government shutdown, unfortunately they are not taking complaints at the moment. sanjay? >> and the ironies just remain breathtaking. thank you so much. very important information there. coming up, perhaps the saddest part of the whole thing, the whole government shutdown,
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the cascading effects, if you will, of the government shutdown can be felt all across the country, maybe even putting some lives at risk. 200 people, 30 of them children, unable to start clinical trials for the treatment they need. and my good friend and colleague elizabeth cohen is following this. she joins me right now. you've been talking to the family of one very sick child. >> right. she is 12 years old.
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her last hope at health is an experimental drug. this week that hope began to fade. >> reporter: mckenna smith spends most of her time in this wheelchair because of a rare genetic disease doctors say she probably won't see her 20th birthday. >> sometimes i feel like i want to get up because my back is aching so bad. >> the pain she feels is caused by tumors that wrap their way around her nerves and compress her organs. there is no cure but there is hope. on monday, mckenna and her dad arrived here at the national institutes of health in bethesda, maryland, so she can start taking an experimental drug that might shrink the tumors. but with the government shut down, the family was told there was a chance mckenna might not get the medicine. >> i hope it doesn't affect me or anybody else who needs this drug. >> reporter: her father waited and worried, tweeting wednesday
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morning -- government shutdown needs to end, now hurting sick people. have the house come here to apologize to my young daughter and others. >> i'm very angry. now finally we're here and, you know, our government can't get its act together. >> they thought they might have to go home to florida without getting the medicine. but late wednesday a turn around, the family was informed mckenna's treatment could go forward. she's fortunate. about 200 new patients including some 30 children aren't so lucky. they won't get to join nih studies just yet. these patients are put on hold until the government is back in business. mckenna's dad says this just isn't right and he has a message for leaders in washington. >> get your act together. this is not a game. you're not -- you can't play politics over children's and other patients' lives. >> now if this shutdown continues, that means that another 200 patients won't be able to begin their trials next week. sanjay? >> that's sad.
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i mean she is such an adorable girl. it's important reminder, i mean, there's real lives behind all this. also, i mean, the cdc, there is some -- it could impact them as well. they track these big impact things like flu and infectious disease outbreaks, they're crippled by the shutdown as well. >> reporter: most of cdc has gone on furlough, most of their employees. as you said, we're gearing up for flu season. if the cdc who tracks it and lets you know where the resources can go. they can't track it because they're not there. they can't track avian flu which is another issue. you know that whenever there is an outbreak anywhere in the country, state health departments call the cdc for help. now they can't do that. >> yeah, i know, you get the impression with some of these things that have immediate impact. some of these things may have longer term impact. the fda as well. you and i report on food disease outbreaks. what are you hearing about the food supply investigators? >> those investigators, many of
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them have been furloughed. so the fda really had to curtail the produce inspection program. they're the ones who inspect produce before it's allowed to go on grocery store shelves. they can't be there in full. they also can't do their laboratory kinds of work in full. so all sorts of things. things we just don't really think about just can't happen. >> that is, again, such a great piece and great reminder. real lives are behind all this. a lot of people hearing the politics and numbers. but mckenna is a great example. thank you so much. we'll have much more from the road as well as the cnn bus rolls on. stick us with. we're visiting many states. we're bringing it all to you. by using one less trash bag each month, we can. and glad forceflex bags stretch until they're full.* so you can take them out less often.
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our crew and i spent the past week on in a bus there behind me. long road trips and maintaining good nutrition in a situation like this can be tough. but we did our best. all right. so you see me outside of the bus. this is what the inside looks. people working very hard. i want to talk about food. one of the things that we check is getting baked chips instead of fried. we really focus on protein. hummus, for example. water. we do the best we can. we did good on this trip. what is more dangerous than the food though is the way that we
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were forced to sleep. that's going it wrap things up in this special edition. stay connected with me at cnn.com. let's keep the conversation going on twitter. "new day sunday" continues right now. new this morning, one of the top al qaeda operatives believed to be responsible for the 1998 american embassy bombings is now in u.s. custody. we have global coverage of the mission. >> listen to that wind. a blizzard in south dakota brings 30 inches of snow. incredible pictures of wicked weather and the damage it left in its wake. ♪ it's our house we can party if we want to ♪
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miley, that is the performance that is lighting up social media this morning. miley cyrus channels her inner michelle bachmann as she takes a twip at the republican party and the government shutdown. >> good morning, everyone. 8:00 on the east coast. this is "new day sunday." there's a lot to get to in the u.s. and around the world. starting with the big terror get. he's a high value target. a senior al qaeda leader in u.s. custody this morning. >> yeah, american commandos snatched the man off the streets of tripoli, libya, apparently in broad daylight earlier on new day we talked to a man who says he knows al-libi. they used to be part of the same cell. he describes the raid. listen. >> i think a special unit there,
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maybe ten people with three cars, i believe. you know, they waited for him. and they just snatched him within a few seconds. he failed to reach for his gun. that's exactly what happened. and his wife is part of the incident. and then they disappeared and they left no, like, evidence there as if nothing happened there. >> he calls it masterful. barbara starr is with us. we have the headline. al libi in u.s. custody. fill in the blafrps about how this came about and now what happens? >> well, what we do know is that it was u.s. special operations forces that grabbed him on the streets of tripoli. and i think some of the details are there right in front of our face this morning. they had intelligence. they had information that he was going to be there. they had a plan. they knew how they were going to get him. they knew how they were going to get out and get him out of
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there. now he is in u.s. custody at an undisclosed location. he is likely going to come to new york to face prosecution in federal court on terrorism charges related to the embassy bombings in 199 #. what happens now? the libyan government very unhappy about it. libyan news agencies reporting that the government is calling it a kidnapping. and that they're feeling is libyan people, people in libya should face the libyan justice system. the u.s. clearly wanted to get its hands on this guy and there has been a lot of distrust with libyans can really go after terrorism suspects in their own country. not clear how much libyans knew anything if they knew anything about it. >> let's dig deeper. this developed in the last hour. the libyan interim government calling it a kidnapping. obviously, they're saying they don't want to drive here to the
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united states. but then the pentagon just responded in the last few minutes, right? >> they have, indeed. the pentagon has responded with a statement. i want to read part of it to you. what they are saying is "wherever possible our first priority is and always has been to apprehend terror suspects and preserve the opportunity to elicit valuable intelligence that can help us protect the american people." elicit valuable intelligence. one of the key reasons they wanted al libi is to find out what intelligence he knew about al qaeda's skill to this day. but some experts will tell you that is a little questionable. he's been out the action somewhat retired from operations for some time. so how much he really knows remains to be seen. but still, under this federal indictment so the u.s. has pledged to go after these terrorist as and they're not going to give up and some 15 years later, they got the man
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they wanted. >> barbara, let's talk about somalia and the raid there. there is this big headline in libya but also in somalia. there was this raid on a shore there where the villa where members of al shabab live. when will we know the name of the person that al shabab is saying was killed in this raid and the value to this organization? >> well, you know, this is really quite extraordinary. two covert operations basically within a 24-hour period or so shows the capability of u.s. commando units. in somalia, the navy seals raided a town along the coast in southern somalia and they were going after an al shabab leader. they have not given the name. it remains to be seen in somalia if al-shababb decide to publicize who they believe the target was. not entirely clear he was
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killed, suspected to be killed. but what happened is the seals ran into heavy gunfire in this town, heavy combat and made the decision to withdraw fairly quickly. concern about civilian casualties. they had to leave before they could confirm that they actually killed the terrorist leader that they were going after. i think it goes to the point very bluntly that they must have been going after someone very high in the ranks of al-shabaab. this was a strong hold. they knew they'd run into opposition on the ground. but the level of opposition forced them to bail out of the plan earlier than they planned. >> barbara starr at the pentagon. two big headlines unfolding. barbara, thank you. we have new fattage of the attackers in the siege of the mall in nairobi last month. you can see four armed men walk through a store room in the mall. reports say that all of those men were eventually killed.
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one is reportedly from sudan, one from kenya, one from somalia and one's origin is not known at this time. officials have said as many as 15 militants took part in that attack. at least 67 people were killed. the capture of al libi is coming two years after the siege that killed osama bin laden. we talked about this this morning. it may be seen as another big win for the obama administration. >> joining us to talk about all of it, our chief political correspondent candy crowley. wow. what a morning. and what developments we have. you have the big two exclusives. you have ted cruz coming up. we're looking forward to that. let's talk about president obama and thou looks for president obama sort of fighting this battle here in the united states and then this war on terror outside of the united states with these dramatic developments. >> sure. any time, anything especially
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involving special forces and a victory like this that is certainly unexpected to the american people, it can't help but first of all enhance the image of the u.s. military and its capabilities as well as the presidents. i would submit to you right now most americans remain focused on the economy. they remain focused on the government shutdown and the upcoming debt ceiling lifting or not lifting. so whether it -- the question is does this help in that battle? unlikely. but certainly any time there is this sort of thing, it helps imagery all around and that includes the white house. but i would remind you that we had other successful and most of them have been deaths of al qaeda. and those have been sort of blips. i'm sure there will be a big boost for the president.
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>> all right. candy cowly, thank you. looking forward to the interview with ted cruz coming up on cnn's "state of the union." candy crowley will be talking with the treasury secretary jack lu and this exclusive with the man many people believe is at the center of this shutdown, having some strong words from members of his own party and democrats from across the aisle, texas senator ted cruz. "state of the union" at the top of the hour. those two military raids nearly 3,000 miles apart are raising a lot of new questions about how and why military operatives conducted two raids in the same weekend, really in the same 24-hour period. >> to discuss the military strategy, colonel rick francona is joining us live over the phone from eugene, oregon. he's a military analyst. colonel, it's good to have you with us. how significant, just big picture, how significant is it that both raids happened within
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maybe 24, 36 hours of one another? >> yeah. i mean it looks like it was a coordinated raid. i don't want to put too much emphasis on that. the targeted presented themselves and the seals were put into action based on each individual target. so the fact that they happened simultaneously or on the same day i think is more coincidental. when we run the operations, you have to go when that target presents itself. the target in libya was based on the friday prayers. they knew he was going nobody a specific spot. they took him when they could. the operation in somalia was based on getting in there before the sun came up. it looks like it was coordinated. i think it just happened that way. >> from all accounts we're hearing now, the mission in libya was a slam dunk for the administration. catch him in broad daylight. his own family is saying it was
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so quick. it was before he could get the gun. somalia you have thoem coem com under the darkness. talk to us about the different conditions on the ground. >> yeah. two completely operating environments. in tripoli, you're in an urban environment. you're in a city. you're in a foreign city. obviously, you have to be concerned about local security because you're doing things that are illegal there in libya. but you got excellent intelligence. you know, al libi, he's in sort of semiretirement. he doesn't seem to be hiding. i think that's very indicative of the support we are not getting from the libyan government. if the libyan government knew he was there and they wanted him to face libyan justice, why didn't they arrest him? they know it's there. we took it on ourselves to do it. but you're operating in a city and you have to be very, very good. get your target and get him into a safe area, out of the range of
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local security. that requires a set of skills on its own. now, go to what happened in somalia. you have a sea born raid, a classic seal operation. you come in a probably boat crews. very small operation. very targeted. do your thing and get out. it's not surprising that once they started to meet pretty stiff resistance, they pulled back. remember, they were not invading somalia. they were going in there to get one guy. >> now we know that this has a lot of value for the families. we spoke with one relative of two people who were killed in 1998 at the embassy in nairobi in kenya. we know there is value there as i relates to bringing this man to justice. but from intelligence standpoint, what happens now? of course we want this man to tell everything he knows. how does that happen over the next 24, 36, 48 hours? >> yeah, victor, this is going to be kind of interesting to
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watch. now you've got this guy in u.s. federal custody. is he going to be read his rights? will he lawyer up? are we going to be able to interrogate him and see if he knows about any upcoming operationors things like that? and one note, this is a big, i think a big get for the families who lost people in both nairobi and libya. i lost a very good friend in nairobi. and i'm glad that this man is finally being brought to justice. if nothing else, it shows that we're going to bring these people to justice. >> this is very personal to you. well, i'm sorry for your loss. we really appreciate you joining us with your expertise this morning. thank you so much. >> sure thing. >> all right. speaking of that and also the big domestic news that we have, the government shutdown, new proposals are on the table that could -- could they -- bring this to an end? we'll have a live report from the white house. >> and also ahead, miley cyrus
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good morning, washington. what is going on? a live look at the white house this morning where there are lots of questions about how this government shutdown will end. >> or when. a lot of questions about when. a lot of focus on washington. we're going to take you there this morning. there is a new proposal to end the government shutdown. a proposal senator susan collins, moderate republican says congress should repeal the 2.3% exice tax. >> as a rev new offset, she would lower pension payments for employers for the short term. the plan gives house republicans a face changing plan to obama care that both sides can agree on. nothing has worked to end this shutdown. we'll see where this one goes. >> right. the stalemate. so for news on it, let's bring in our reporter who has been reporting on this all weekend. pretty amazing developments. what do you have? >> you know, this piecemeal idea of so far obviously no big deal
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but doing it piecemeal is what's happening. it is significantly over at the department of defense. they are bringing back more than 300,000 workers. these are civilians who have been furloughed. they will be coming back. also in the second one, the house yesterday in fact voted -- is working on this proposal to give back pay to furloughed employees of the government. and that would have an after the shutdown is over. and then finally, interestingly, chaplins in the military actually some of them are furloughed as well. that's having an effect on people who have religious beliefs. and so the movement afoot, house resolution to let them go back to their business of helping people. so there are three different areas. we'll just have to see how maybe they can get more and maybe even a bigger deal. victor? >> we talked a few moments ago with candy crowley with the
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exclusive with ted cruz coming up at the top of the hour. he is still making some news, too. >> he is. he continues to slam the democrats saying they are simply dug in. here's what he said. >> these bills have nothing to do with obama care. funding the va has nothing to do with obama care. and, yet, they're making a decision let's hold our veterans hostage because we want to force obama care on the american people. >> you can see obama care continues to be part of the discussion and, in fact, it might be part of the solution if that proposal by senator collins could get some traction. >> wouldn't a solution be nice? it would be a nice development. thank you so much. we appreciate you covering day six of the government shutdown. still to come, are you sure the calendar is right? it's october but just two weeks in the fall already parts of the country look like this. >> wow. >> i mean that looks like a
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we're barely into fall, actually with 86 degrees here in atlanta yesterday. >> but 66 degrees in the studio which i love. >> just like you like it. so we're barely into fall. it's looking like winter already. we're not kidding. blizzards blasting across the midwest. >> and the snow will be turning to rain as it heads across the country. al al
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al al alexandra steel is here with the forecast. >> i hope you're having a great sunday morning. certainly we talked about this weather trifecta we've had through the last three days. boy have we seen some record snow. blizzard conditions historic in the making. how about 34 inches in places of wyoming? let's take you there right now. really from the northern rockies to the high plains. first blizzard of the season. nebraska, south dakota and wyoming seeing record setting snow. rapid city, downtown, one of the biggest winners, 23 inches. the second biggest snowstorm on record there. the first back in 1927. that was one element of our trifecta. tornado damage, we'll take you there and show what you that looked like on thursday and friday. 18 reports of tornadoes in three states. rare but certainly not unheard of. the majority of these tornadoes followed by two super cells. certainly no dud with the tornado. tropical depression karen expected to just be a remnant
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low later today. maximum sustained winds of 30. where did it go? sheer dry air blowing it apart. maybe one to two inches of rain. maybe just along the immediate coast. but watch this. kind of skirts the coast like this. so essentially they were prepared. they were ready. but just too much dry air and sheer got into this thing. >> all right. we're going to see if it continues in the weekend. hopefully people there in pensacola. >> yeah, certainly will. >> all right. the united states snatched the top al qaeda operative off the streets in tripoli, libya in broad daylight. now libya is demanding an explanation from washington. i have low testosterone. there, i said it.
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good morning, everyone. here are five things you need to know for your new day the number one, libya says the u.s., it's got to explain. this come after u.s. forces captured a key al qaeda leader. abu al libi seized in tripoli. the u.s. wants him to stand trial for his role in the u.s. embassy bombings in east africa. they call al libi's capture a kidnapping. a navy seal team also stormed a villa in somalia. members of the group al-shabaab, they stay there. they say one its members were
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killed. >> number two, president obama says the federal government could reopen immediately if house speaker john boehner allow it. the president sold the associate press he thinks there is enough bipartisan support to pass a clean budget bill. tea party republicans insist on linking it to obama care changes. >> two bikers accused of beating an suv driver in new york have been charged. police say robert sims, the man here, stumped the driver's head and body. he is charged with assault, gang assault and criminal possession of a weapon. the other suspect faces assault charges. >> a zoo worker in oklahoma is recovering this morning after being mauled by a tiger. doctors were able to save the woman's arm. zoo officials say she broke the rules by sticking her hand through a hole in the tiger's cage. they said the 14-year-old tiger
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will not be euthanized. and miley cyrus was up late hosting saturday night live. she is number five. the pop star did not shy away from poking a little fun at her provocative vma performance. >> you walk out there like that, they're going to put new prison like that. >> i know. that makes me laugh. so the 20-year-old singer also she ripped congressional republicans for their part in shutting down the federal government. miley even played a sexy congresswoman michelle back man with the dancing there to the left. a dancing john boehner by her side. >> that was a little funny last night. along with breaking news that was happening at the same time in america's war on terror. >> yeah. a big get for the war on terror and for the u.s. we're learning more about the capture of this man, abu al
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libi. he was detained while leaving his house for morning prayers. we spoke with a former colleague of the al libi family. he was earlier this morning. listen to this. >> i think a special unit there, about ten people with three cars i believe, you know, they were waiting for him. and they just snatched him within like a few seconds. he even failed to reach for his gun. and his wife, she is so part of the incident. and then they just disappeared and left no, like, evidence as if nothing happened there. >> he calls it a ten out of ten. the pentagon says senior al qaeda leader al libi is being held in a secure location outside of libya. >> new developments on this story. the libyan interim government is demanding an explanation from the united states. it is calling the capture a kidnapping and it is also saying
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that its owns should be tried in lib yach libya. let's break this down. i want to get to the pentagon's response. libya came out just in the last hour or so and said this is a kidnapping, we want an explanation. they said you shouldn't try him in the u.s., you should try him in his home country. the pentagon came out and said they had detained him under the law of war. peter? >> well, that's an interesting formulation. basically it's the same formulation that the united states government used for drone strikes in pakistan and yemen. essentially saying that we're at war with al qaeda. if a country is unwilling or unable to capture or kill leaders of al qaeda, we are -- rereserve the right to essentially either capture or kill them ourselves. it's the same rational that we've seen in the cia drone campaign in pakistan and yemen
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being used now to snatch this guy in libya. >> nick, i want to ask you about the last 15 years since this bombing in nairobi. what do with you know about what he has been doing and if in the last few years since he's returned to libya if he's been effective in potentially trying to expand al qaeda in libya. >> for a period until about 2000, he was living in britain. british authorities raided a -- an apartment he was living in. he left shortly before then, believed to have gone to afghanistan, after that spending a decade in iran and going back to libya two years ago during the arab spring uprising. but believed to have been perhaps in retirement from al qaeda despite his background as being a serious operate whiff knowledge of computer systems
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with knowledge of intelligence and planning which is what his role is believed to be in the 1998 bombings of the two embassies in kenya and tanzania. it gives the impression that libyan authorities haven't acted to pick him up and therefore raising a concern that if the united states wanted him, they would have to go ahead and pick him up themselves. that raises the question about what we maeheard from the libya officials. they don't want to appear to lose face. this will be overriding their sovereignty that the united states would go in and pick him up if it was with their knowledge. they would probably want to counteract that narrative. >> want to go to you and talk about national security. now the question is will we see retaliation do you expect
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backlash from this? if so, in what form? >> no, i'm not really sure that backlash is going to be prompted by the arrest of this guy. from what nick is saying and what we know of his history, he's one of the original guys in al qaeda. he may have been sort of on ice for some period of time. certainly this long period he spent in iran, it's not clear that he was associated with al qaeda when he was in libya. earlier this year we saw bin laden's son-in-law picked up in jordan, taken to new york where he'll stand trial. there was no backlash, no kind of attacks as a result of that. so i'm skeptical of the idea that there will be some -- this guy, you know, he has a $5 million reward on his head.
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that's a way of scoring the relative importance of these two guys. >> nick, you mentioned that for a few years al libi was living in the u.k. they got the manchester manuel. what does that tell us about him and his value to al qaeda? >> he was believed to have a role in planning the 1998 embassy attacks in kenya. and that was believed to have been that plan was believed to have been put together in 1993. the manchester manual that's were picked up at that address in manchester where he was living detailed attacking embassies, how to blow them up, how to target them. the details he may have put in effect for tanzania.
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it could cause maximum damage and maximum casualties. the document, the manchester manual was several hundred pages long. so the details that he put into this planning, he may not have authored that manual itself, but it was certainly in the place where he was living. and, of course, the strike against him and this strike we're seeing in somalia as well will put al qaeda certainly less on the offensive and much more on the defensive. it's a very strong message. a 10 out of 10. it will put al qaeda in the position it vent hasn't been in. they will very much fear more attacks and potential attacks like this or arrests in libya. >> nick robertson and peter bergen, thank you. >> thank you. for relatives of the victims of the 1998 embassy attacks, libby's capture, really a major
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milestone in a long and painful chapter of american history. >> earlier we spoke with edith bartley. her father and her younger brother were both working at the embassy the day of that attack. they were both killed. this is incredibly personal for her. we asked her about the impact, the importance of the capture of al qaeda member al libi. >> our families want to thank the u.s. military and our intelligence community. we know this is a firm signal around the globe and our government is still wading through a stand still right now. we're still vigilant as a country and remain focused on international carists. we're not going to step down at all. it's extremely important that they happened just over 15 years ago. yet, they're still connected much of our activities around the globe today and in light of the recent incidents in nairobi
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just two weeks ago. these are all connected in some way in terms of our presence around the globe being a threat to others. and we have to remain vigilant as a country. >> so interesting to hear her perspective. 15 years later the loss doesn't go away. she's been fighting for the families of people that lost more than 200 people killed in the '98 embassy bombing. >> ready for compensation. >> compensation for them and in a way it's a cathartic but a sober reminder of this horrible society. >> she plans to be at the trial in new york. she was there for the terror trials about 12 years ago. she said she will be there every day because she wants to look that man in the eye. he took her father and brother. the teen activist from pakistan shot by the taliban is considered a top candidate for this year's nobel peace prize. [ female announcer ] it's simple physics...
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at least seven people are dead after a monster truck crashed into a bridge in new mexico. we have new video from the event. i want to warn you first it could be tough to watch. you see the truck go up a ramp. and then take a hard right turn into the crowd. you see people then running to get out of the way because they had no idea where this truck is going next.
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the mayor has ordered -- the mayor ordered an investigation into this. >> wow, very hard to watch. >> we want to get you up to speed on what is coming up this week. washington is in focus again tomorrow. the government shutdown enters day seven. house and senate will be back in session. we'll see if anybody progress can be made at all to reach a deal and get the government back up and running. let's look ahead this week to thursday. get out your tissues. the tv show "glee" will air a special episode to say farewell to corey monteef. and then coming up on friday, the winner of the nobel peace prize will be announced. among the contender, the teen activist from pakistan that was shot by the taliban. some are saying she's too young. she's only 16 years old and the youngest winner so far was 32. following that, you're not going to want to miss it.
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on sunday, our very own reporter interviews malala and her special interview is the bravest girl in the world. that will air only on cnn on sunday. >> looking forward to it. thank you. wall street has a big week ahead. investors are grappling with the partial government shutdown while trying to decide for the rollout of corporate earnings. allison, what should we watch for? >> investors got one of those uncertain weeks coming up. the government shutdown wears on. wall street is hopeful lawmakers will reach a budget solution sooner rather than later so they can start focusing on the more pressing issues, the debt ceiling. the federal reserve is set to release meetings on wednesday. investors are seeking more insight into the central bank's decision making progress. the fed opted to make no change to the system laus measures.
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figures on retail sales, inflation and consumer sentiment are due throughout the wook. the state of them are uncertain because of the government closurement third quarter earnings season will pick off. wells fargo and j.p. morgan chase will talk in on friday. expectations for the big banks are not that good this time around. j.p. morgan is caught up in a lot of legal drama. for the fourth time in history there will be a new $100 billion. the new bill goes into circulation on thursday. it will feature a three d security ribbon. coming up on a special countdown to prices edition of "your money," law makers are warning of impending due. it's a feeling like they've seen this movie before. christine romans with the facts on a debt ceiling today at 3:00 p.m. eastern on "your money." >> all right. old $100 bills still good to me.
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thank you very much. >> you know what else a lot of people are talking about? they can't stop talking about? miley cyrus. the pop star hosted "saturday night live" last night. she poked fun at herself and her recent controversies. we'll have all the highlights next. [ female announcer ] the best thing about this bar it's not a candy bar. 130 calories 7 grams of protein the fiber one caramel nut protein bar.
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a couple weeks after her provocative routine at the mtv video music awards, miley cyrus took center stage last night on saturday night live. >> yes. if you didn't see it, we're going to show you the highlights now. she pokes fun at the controversy over her own vma performance along with a host of all these other topics including congress. but the question is does the blunt humor give the 20-year-old pop star the last laugh? >> live from new york, it's saturday night live! >> love her or hate her --
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>> ladies and gentlemen, miley cyrus. >> miley cyrus took the stage once again, this time taking aim at herself. >> in case anyone's concerned, you should know there will be no twirking tonight. i used to it this was cool. now that white people are doing it, it seems kind of lame. >> and she spoofed her we can't stop video playing a sexy singing michelle bachmann and poking fun at the government shutdown. ♪ we are so shut down we are getting so shut down ♪ ♪ republican party threatening gop ♪ ♪ this is our house and these are our rules ♪ >> this is the latest public appearance from cyrus as the 20-year-old star continues to grab headlines wherever she goes. few can forget her controversial
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performance recently at the vmas. >> every vma performance, anyone that performs, that's what you're looking for. you want to make history. >> and most recently her war of wards with shah nad o'connor. o'connor sent cyrus an open letter warning not let herself be prostituted by the music industry. then again, she made her own s&l headlines in 1992 when she did this. >> fight the real enemy. >> i don't want my daughter acting like that. but at the same time, she's an adult. she has to make her own choices. >> hopefully fix her image. but that's up to her. if she is going to strike the iron while it's hot, she may as well do it now. >> no matter the outcome, her fans who waited for hours to see cyrus on s&l said they cannot wait to see what she's going to do next. >> thank you guys so much. thank you for everybody at s&l having me. it's been awesome. good night, everybody. >> what is she going to do next?
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>> i don't know. how do you top that? >> i think after the video, she lit the sledgehammer. that was it. she was there. that was it. halle barrie and her husband are welcoming a newborn son. >> she confirmed she gave birth yesterday. her husband oliver martinez. berry is 47 years old. shortly after she got pregnant, she said it was one of the biggest surprises of her life. congratulations to them. >> just ahead on "new day," snowstorms -- snow in early october. they're pushing east. we'll tell what you that means for the midwest in weather. (dad) just feather it out. that's right. (son) ok. feather it out. (dad) all right. that's ok. (dad) put it in second, put it in second. (dad) slow it down. put the clutch in, break it, break it. (dad) just like i showed you. dad, you didn't show me, you showed him. dad, he's gonna wreck the car! (dad) he's not gonna wreck the car. (dad) no fighting in the road, please. (dad) put your blinker on. (son) you didn't even give me a chance! (dad) ok. (mom vo) we got the new subaru because nothing could break
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despite multiple security checkpoints, i mean you got to have your id. you have to have the boarding pass to get on these planes. eight people, a 9-year-old boy managed to sneak on to a delta flight from minneapolis to las vegas. >> he wanted to go to sin city. >> vegas, baby the. >> you know what? he's too young. officials think that this young boy got through security, passed flight attendants' gate on to the plane and the plane took off with him on it all without an id, boarding pass or a legal guardian. flight attendants got suspicious during the flight then they alerted the authorities in vegas. >> listen to this. the boy reportedly got into trouble after his departure. he stole a piece of luggage and then skipped out on a bill at the airport restaurant.
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this was before he went on that plane. he stole some luggage and then didn't pay for his food. delta just came out with a statement saying they're taking the incident very seriously. they're working with authorities and the investigation. >> i bet his parents were just glad to get him home. >> all good things must come to an end. by that i mean the weekend. let's get a check of your monday morning commute. alexandra steel joins us. what can we expect tomorrow? >> we're watching this cold front that moved through. we have sun to melt the snow we've seen. and, of course, this front pushing eastward. sunny skies throughout much of the country. right along the eastern seaboard, we're going to see certainly cloudy skies, scattered showers, potentially for even severe weather. airport's impacted, baltimore-washington, raleigh durham and new york city potentially. so watching this front across the country, temperatures right ahead of it though will still be mild. everyone cooling down. tropical depression karen, guys, certainly a bit of a dud. more impact from the front moving across the country.
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>> it is a beautiful weekend here in atlanta. >> it is great to be here. >> thank you so much for spending your sunday morning for usment thank you for watching. >> don't move, candy crowley has senator ted cruz and jack lu next on "state of the union." it starts right now. if you want a friend in washington, get a dog. today they call him speaker cruz. it's not meant as a compliment. >> so many democrats have invoked my name as the root of all evil. >> a marquee name in the tea party takes on incoming from the other parties. our exclusive with texas republican senator ted cruz. then -- >> take that vote. stop this farce. >> all we're asking for is to sit down and have a discussion. >> the u.s. government is close to $17 trillion in debt. and these congressional authority to borw

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