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and a party problem for maryland's attorney general. he's in hot water for going to high school a high school bash and not stopping the underage drinking. an intelligence team from germany is preparing to come to the u.s. after claims the nsa spied on foreign leaders. criticism from abroad and at home. there's a big rally going on right now in washington. people have been speaking out and speaking all day about their disapproval. live right now in washington. erin, let's begin with the news of a team from germany coming to the u.s. what will happen once they arrive. >> the white house has acknowledged these new revelations have certainly caused some tension with germany and they've acknowledged this
meeting. just earlier today, hayden, the spokeswoman for the national security council at the white house put out a statement and i want to read part of that to you. she says we understand that german officials plan to travel to washington in the coming weeks and the u.s. government looks forward to meeting with them, we expect a range, but we do not have specific meetings to announce at this point. and i would point out that just yesterday, a spokesman for the state department sort of acknowledged that this has been difficult because, of course, germany is trying to draft a u.n. resolution with brazil and germany has also talked about having a conference with france to address some of these problems. so obviously germany is not happy with the united states over this, fred. >> okay. let's talk a little bit more about the rally taking place in the nation's capital there. what's been said, what's been done? what are people hoping will come from this rally. >> well, this is the largest rally we've seen yet.
protesting mass surveillance by the nsa. and, in fact, edward snowden who brought this all to light has basically given his stamp of approval to this rally. and just within the last hour or so, a statement was read at the rally that he provided to the aclu. and we want to play part of that for you. >> we have not forgotten that the fourth amendment in our bill of rights prohibits government not only from searching our personal effects without a warrant but from seizing them in the first place and doing so in secret. holding to this principle, we declare that mass surveillance has no place in this country. it is time for reform. elections are coming and we are watching you. >> so that statement was something that edward snowden
provided and it was just read before all the protesters gathered for that rally. but, of course, this rally is about the piece of surveillance that is on the domestic side. data collection of private citizens in the united states and it's more about that as opposed to the anger over the surveillance of foreign leaders, fred. >> all right. thanks so much. >> the white house said this week that the health care.gov website should be running smoothly by the end of november. the republicans responded today in their weekly radio address. upton said americans should expect reliable service from the website. also said the deadline for individuals to sign up should be pushed back because the site is still, quote, in his words not ready for prime time. three children are dead after an apartment fire in new york. and fire crews say a candle they used to light the kitchen started it all.
alexandra field is following the story. >> investigators say the tragic fire that killed three young brothers in the bronx last night was an accident. it started with a candle lit in the kitchen, the fire spread just a day after the power company con-ed cut electricity to the apartment. a spokesman said there were thousands of dollars of unpaid bills. the flames quickly swept through the apartment building killing a 5-year-old boy, 2-year-old boy and their 4-month-old brother. a neighbor says she could hear them screaming, but flames and the smoke were so thick, she couldn't help. >> i kicked the door open, tried to get the kids because i heard the kids hollering, but the fire was heavy. so i fell and i couldn't get into the house to save the kids. i couldn't get them. i couldn't get the kids out. i hear them crying and it was burning and i couldn't get them. >> that is heartbreaking,
alexandra. you know, the boys' mother and their two sisters were taken to the hospital. the girls are both in intensive care, three other people were also taken to hospitals, what more do we know about the circumstances and where the investigation goes from here? >> well, at this point, they are telling us the fire clearly was an accident started with that candle, the unfortunate timing here knowing the electric had been cut off the day before, the flame spread, it was a six-story apartment building. a number of other people in that building and as we reported, three other people injured, also the mother of those three young boys and their two sisters among the group taken to the hospital. fred? >> terrible situation. alexandra field there in new york. a bombshell revelation in the jonbenet ramsey murder case. new documents just unsealed point fingers at her parents.
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grand jury documents unsealed in the jonbenet ramsey case. they show the grand jury in 1999 voted to indict her parents on charges of child abuse resulting in death. tom foreman has the story. >> only adding to the mystery of what happened to 6-year-old jonbenet ramsey found dead in her colorado home the day after christmas 1996. saying her parents recklessly permitted a child to be placed in a situation that posed a threat of injury which resulted in the death of jonbenet ramsey. accusing each parent of helping someone avoid arrest. whether helping each other or another, that's unclear.
they insist it was the work of an unknown intruder. >> there's a killer on the loose. if i were a resident of boulder, i would tell my friends to keep -- keep your babies close to you, there's someone out there. >> although at first the murder looked like a botched kidnapping, the ramseys were suspected. their daughter had been struck on the head and strangled with a thin piece of cord tightened with a broken paint brush from patsy's hobby kit. a random note contained little known details of the family's finances and history. and state investigators thought it was in patsy's handwriting. there were no clear signs of forced entry and tension between investigators and the family rose rapidly. john ramsey would much later suggest he was not surprised by the police scrutiny. >> why did they think it was you?
>> because the police always go after the parents. and we understand that. >> but prosecutors would not go after them. even though the grand jury apparently wanted to. >> we do not have sufficient evidence to warrant the filing of charges. >> five years ago, authorities took the unusual step of clearing john and patsy ramsey based on suspicion of dna evidence even though she died of cancer and he had moved away. >> indeed, most of the people connected to this story investigators, officials, witnesses have all moved on. and these documents really changes nothing. the case remains technically still open but no sign of any real progress and no answer to the question, who killed that 6-year-old girl in her own home on christmas night. tom foreman, cnn, washington. >> thanks so much, tom. so one reporter in boulder, colorado, has been following every step of this case for 17 years now.
charlie brennan broke the story in january of this year about what was in that sealed grand jury report from 1999. and then he pushed for the release of the actual document. and he told me why that was so important to him. >> i realized after publishing this story in january about the existence of the indictment there were still many people who kind of looked at it as a, well, maybe it is, maybe it isn't, maybe there was, maybe there wasn't, and i just realized as a journalist that she nailed the story down with absolute certainty is important to obtain and show to the public the actual indictments that reflected the decision of the grand jury back in october of 1999. >> so in addition to the indictment, there were the dna test results. tests that came nine years after this indictment clearing the ramsey parents. does it payment it irrelevant or is it still important in your
view? >> well, you could almost word it -- in a way, you could almost argue the indictment is irrelevant even after the dna issue in that the charge that is specified in the indictment, child abuse involved in death had a three-year statute of limitations that would've expired in 2002. so nobody is going to jail based on these indictments. however, reference the 2008 exoneration by then d.a. mary lacy. that is viewed by many prosecutors, particularly those that i've talked to in colorado somewhat as scams. they say the business of the prosecutor is not clearing people but charging people and it is only by charging somebody that you then de facto have cleared other people. but the important thing is mary lacy the d.a. who issued that exoneration has been out of office for five years and her successor, the current boulder d.a. does not consider his hands
to be tied by that exoneration. >> when talking about that indictment or that grand jury indictment, what kind of evidence in your view did they have to come to that determination that somehow the parents may have been responsible? >> that grand jury sat for 13 months. they did not meet for every day of every week certainly for those 13 months, but they were taking testimony on and off for 13 months. and the grand jury process is such that a lot remains secret about not only the evidence that they saw but even the witnesses that came before them. i was one of the reporters that covered the grand jury. we saw many of the witnesses that come and go, we didn't see all the witnesses come and go. we didn't know the evidence, all the evidence by any stress of the imagination that the jury heard. consequently, we really can't
know even to this day specifically on what evidence these indictments are based. >> is it your view that this case will never be solved? >> i believe that the only way this case would ever be solved at this point is if there was a confession that was backed up by irrefutable physical evidence. >> thanks so much. charlie brennan from the boulder daily camera. tainted dog treats have made thousands of family pets sick across the country. how the government is stepping in to try to prevent it from happening again. americans take care of business.
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all right. the federal government has safety regulations for the food you and i eat. but what about for your pet? there are almost no laws regulating production of food for your furry friend. >> the food and drug administration is proposing new rules for companies that make dog and cat food. they would require the same methods that keep human food safe like better sanitation. the goal is to protect animal foods from bacterias, chemicals and other contaminants. the head of the fda says the announcement, quote, addresses a critical part of the food system. now, earlier this week, the agency reported more than 3,000
pets may have gotten sick from jerky treats made in china and the u.s. right now, there are almost no rules on pet food safety. but the fda has issued multiple recalls in the past few years. just last year, a salmonella outbreak at a facility in south carolina led to a recall of 30,000 tons of dog and cat food. 40,000 people across the country got sick from handling that food. the new rules would also apply to animal feed for livestock. people can become ill if they eat sick animals. it's not just the pets the fda is worried about, the rules still need final approval. >> thanks so much. so for more on the possible new changes, i'm joined by consumer advocate for the consumer federation of america. chris, good to see you. >> thank you. >> what are these new fda pet food regulations going to do?
>> well, they're going to for the first time ever require pet food manufacturers to meet federal standards and federal requirements to make sure they're producing pet food safely. and this is something that's never been required before of pet food manufacturers. hopefully prevent these types of outbreaks and contamination events from occurring. >> how far down the line are we talking? >> the fda proposed the rules. it's going to take some time for them to make comments and finalize the rules. it's probably another year or so before they get them on the books and start enforcing them. >> it will that happens, how concerned should we be about the product from overseas in particular that are on the shelves. >> there is concern because we've seen a number of outbreaks linked to imported food products, both on the human and the animal side. there is concern that the fda doesn't have the resources or the capacity to really inspect those products coming into the stores. getting these rules in place as soon as possible is going to be the benefit of both humans and
animals. >> and are we saying there have been no problems, no safety problems with u.s. products? >> absolutely not. we've seen the same sort of problems and outbreaks here in the u.s. linked to domestic foods. and fda also proposing rules that would address those, as well. and the sooner we can get this whole package of rules on the books and being enforced, the better protected consumers will be. >> so in the meantime, how can we protect ourselves, our pets? >> well, for pets for sure, we don't know what the contamination that is causing these pets to get sick. we don't know what the source of that is. when it comes to the jerky treats -- to your pets because we just don't want to risk the fact they could get sick. >> you think it's meat-based kind of products we should not be in terms of treat feeding to our pets? >> yeah, so the fda has identified chicken jerky treats, the ones that are causing the problems and, you know, i would
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all right. bottom of the hour now. welcome back. i'm fredericka whitfield. here are five things crossing the cnn news desk right now. number one, germany is sending an intelligence team to the u.s. after claims that the nsa monitored chancellor angela merkel's cell phone. well, today the national security council says it's prepared to meet with german officials in the coming weeks, but no dates have been set. the nsa has been criticized in washington today in another way.
protesters there rallied against the nsa's domestic surveillance program. and number two, a group of high school students from kentucky escaped a massive fire that broke out on their bus on a tennessee highway. they were on a field trip to the great smokey mountains national park when a passenger saw smoke coming from the rear of the bus. 34 people were onboard including the driver. no one was hurt. the exact cause of the fire is unclear. but bus company officials suspect the bad alternator. and senator ted cruz marks the opening day of pheasant hunting season in iowa with congressman steve king. cruz also delivered a speech in that politically critical state and reiterated his call for kathleen sebelius. he said she should lose her job for the obama care website's technical problems. and number four, one step
closer to the winter olympic games. jones is now a member of the u.s. bobsledding team. she is among nine women to make the national squad. if jones performs well over the next few months, she could participate in the 2014 games in russia. and number five, actress marcia wallace has died. she was a regular on the "bob newhart show" and you might know her as the voice as the schoolteacher on the simpsons. wallace was 70 years old. several reports say she died of complications from breast cancer. maryland's attorney general is under fire for his behavior at a beach house party. he's been criticized for showing up at the party but not doing anything about underage drinking reportedly going on. here now is brian todd. >> a wild beach week party in bethany beach, delaware, with teenagers dancing on tables. but look at the man near the center in the white shirt, that's maryland's attorney
general douglas gansler running for governor. he says he was at the party in june just to talk to his son. but underage teenagers reportedly admitted they were drinking alcohol and now the photo has surfaced and he's taking serious heat for not stopping it. substance abuse expert michael gimble. >> you have an obligation to protect our children, to stop them from hurting themselves. now, call the police, stop the party, do something to protect the children. it's all of our obligations as parents. >> the "baltimore sun" quotes him as saying he doesn't have moral authority over other people's children and defended himself at the news conference. >> i wasn't the leader of the party, for example -- i wasn't the chaperone. i didn't buy the beer or anything like that. i showed up, talked to my son and left. >> he also said he didn't have legal authority to stop anything at this house since he's the attorney general of another state. but another embarrassment, he's been in a psa speaking against
underage drinking. >> parents, you're the leading influence on your teen's decision not to drink. >> i asked about accusations that he's hypocritical. >> hypocritical would be strong. again, should i have recognized -- should i have decided -- i could -- what i could have done was to investigate whether there was drinking going on and then taken action on that. >> gansler said at the time he wasn't sure there was drinking going on. >> there could be kool-aid in the red cups, but there's probably beer in the cups. >> this comes on the heels of another story on gansler. >> often ordered the state troopers to drove him to speed, to run red lights, to drive on shoulders with lights flashing even on routine excursions. he says those accusations are untrue. brian todd, cnn, silver spring, maryland. a cousin of the kennedy family is hoping to get out of jail after his conviction for a 1975 murder was thrown out.
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kennedy cousin is trying to convince a judge to let him out of prison on bail while he awaits a new trial in the 1975 murder of his neighbor martha moxly. he's been behind bars for more than a decade after being convicted of murdering her when both of them were teenagers. a judge threw out his conviction earlier in the week and our randi kaye takes a look at the evidence in this long running murder mystery. >> one of the first pieces of evidence police find at the
scene of martha moxley's murder part of a stainless steel shaft of a golf club. another piece is also found along with the head of the six iron all covered in blood. investigators also find several patches of blood in the area. the medical examiner determines she sustained five to ten blows to the head and at least four stab wounds from the broken golf shaft. >> they hit her so hard that the golf club broke. and then they took the shaft and they stabbed her with it six or seven times. >> but if michael murdered martha moxley, where is the forensic evidence linking him to the brutal crime. there isn't any. no fingerprints, no footprints, not even his blood is found at the scene. also, there's no trace of defense wounds on moxley. this is his defense attorney the day he was arraigned in march 2000. >> no scientific evidence or anything that links him to this crime. >> this affidavit reveals
prosecutors relied mainly of the word of witnesses, a challenge because of the more than 20-year gap between the murder and the trial. one witness tells police he brought up the murder telling her he had been drunk at the time and might have committed the murder during a blackout. another witness reports he broke down in tears crying, i don't know if i did or didn't. i don't know. and finally, a third witness claims he admitted murdering moxley with the golf club when she quote, did not submit to the advances. the same witness said because he was related to ethel kennedy he could get away with murder. >> critical evidence includes a human hair belonging to a white male but doesn't match any of the suspects. the single hair belonging to an african-american male found on the blanket used to wrap the body is dismissed as belonging to one of the first officers at the crime scene. >> and there's this, a composite
sketch someone witnesses saw in the neighborhood. he believes it would have convinced the jury he didn't do it if only the jury had seen it. his defense attorney never showed it during the trial. the unused sketch is one of the key reasons he argued his defense lawyer was incompetent and that he deserves a new trial. at a recent hearing to push for his client's freedom, his new lawyer presented the composite sketch along with a picture of kenneth littleton who worked as a tutor at the home. he had also been questioned at the time of the murder. his lawyer told reporters he's innocent. robert f. kennedy jr. is his cousin. >> michael was 11 miles away with five eyewitnesss at the time that the murder was committed. he has an airtight alibi. >> with his conviction set aside, michael now has a second chance to prove it. randi kaye, cnn, new york. >> and here's more with robert
f. kennedy jr. about why the case needs to get a second look in his view. >> the family members who were contacted were never prepped for their testimony. so they were never given the statements that they had made at that time about where they were that night and what they were doing that night. so for 27 years, they hadn't thought about this. and it's not like they were thinking the whole time, oh, well, michael is a suspect what really happened because michael skakel had never been a suspect in this case. what they'd been doing that night. they had been far away from where the murder was and it was a tragedy and a curiosity for them. but it wasn't something where they were thinking, you know, there's -- it wasn't something they were preoccupied with for 27 years. >> and, again, kennedy said skakel had an airtight alibi claiming witnesses saw him 11
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killer whales have been a huge attraction at aquariums for years. some say it raises awareness and helps in research. others charge it is simply a cruel way to treat animals. martin savidge looks a the what could be a turning point in the debate. >> sea world orlando 2010 in front of horrified visitors, the trainer is dragged into the water, mauled and drowned by the killer whale she'd worked with for years. >> all of a sudden the whale latched on to her and took her under. >> more than a tragedy, it's a turning point. in its wake, the health
administration orders sea world to keep trainers out of the water. high flying days like these are over. sea world turned down repeated requests for interviews but in an op-ed noted the staff has been interacting with killer whales daily for nearly 50 years. the tragedy of dawn's death cannot and has not been ignored but neither should the safe interactions we've had with killer whales over that span of time. >> as part of a publicity stunt -- >> but critics say there have been many incidents suggesting otherwise. videos easily found on the web. >> the whale bites down on her leg and won't let go. >> pulled under, helpless as the whale drags him below. >> killer whales also called orcas are not actually whales but dolphins. activists claim they're too intelligent, socially dependent on their families and too big for captivity.
neuroscientist says they are one of the few creatures besides us that are self-aware and blames their aggression in activity on a basic problem, they're stir crazy. >> this is not an individual and not a being that is going to be appropriately stimulated by throwing a hoop in the water or doing stupid pet tricks. >> sea world says it continually provides its killer whales a stimulating and challenging environment. and for understanding them, sea world says a bunch of what we know today came from studying captive orcas. he studies bottle nose dolphins. by comparing the health of those in captivity against those in the wild, he says, we can learn of problems in the ocean. >> there are emerging diseases we're seeing. new viruses. we're seeing things like antibiotic resistant bacteria in these dolphins which is a terrific spinoff from pollution from man. >> former trainer says captivity
has taught us a lot about killer whales but believes now we've learned enough. and should let them go. >> why do you think they're still in captivity? >> well, there's dollars to be made. and, you know, big draw for these facilities that have them. >> it's a business? >> it's a business. >> well, the issue of captivity is certainly debatable, what isn't is the popularity of places like these. zoos and aquariums set new attendance records almost every year. sea world entertainment's parks pull in 11 million visitors and $1.5 billion a year. and supporters say there's a lot more to it than just entertainment. performances educate and inspire. >> people are having less and less daily encounter with animals. and so these are kinds of exhibits are teaching people about the wild. if people don't know >> reporter: unfortunately opponents say, audiences are not
the only ones held captive by the show. martin savidge, cnn, atlanta. >> and orca whales are thought to be the most intelligent in the animal kingdom, watch "black fish" cnn sunday night at 9:00 p.m. eastern time. all right, if you've been complaining about the cost of your daily cup of coffee from starbucks, you'll want to hear our next story. stay tuned.
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their starbucks compared to the rest of the world. so, richard quest got some fellow cnn reporters to show us who pays what around the globe. >> reporter: it has become a staple of the morning routine. the starbucks grand latte. here in new york, $3.95 before tax. now, for the rest of the world -- china is the center of this brewing controversy. a cup of grande latte will cost you 30 quai, about $4.92. they asked starbucks about the pricing chinese have trashed state media saying perhaps it's all a bit of a storm in a coffee cup. >> reporter: here in sao paola
costs about $3.80, there are already 62 starbucks coffee shops and room to grow considering this is the second biggest coffee-consuming country in the world. >> reporter: i don't think i've ever ordered a grande latte before, but here in london it's about two pound 50 for this drink. i calculate that around $4. here in the uk starbucks has come under fire for some of its tax policies and for actually admitting there are too many branches. but i would say $4 for a caffey latte in central london, not bad. >> thank you very much. i've got my grande latte, it's a new trend in new delhi as starbucks only entered the indian market a year ago and it cost me 176 rupees or $2.87. it's cheaper here than many
other countries because starbucks sources its coffee beans locally, so no freight charges are required and the operating costs are much lower. >> reporter: this is the way the cups stack up. whether it's new york, london, sao paolo are a beijing. "p," "p," "p," some say, purchasing power parity. and a dollar here may not buy us as much here as somewhere else, well, maybe not. but the principle remains, enjoy your coffee. richard quest, cnn, new york. >> all right. hey, this just in in the sporting world, nascar race today, darryl wallace has just become the first african-american to win a nascar race in truck racing. wallace took the victory after
96 laps at martinsville speedway today in virginia. he's also the first black driver to win a nascar race in half a century, the last was wendell scott and that was back in 1963, so congrats to darrell wallace. when country artist casey musgraves put a song with gay supportive lyrics on her album, several people told her that country radio stations just wouldn't play that. when that song called "follow your arrow" released this week, those people were proven wrong. ♪ make lots of noise and kiss lots of boys and kiss lots of girls if that's something you're into ♪ >> country stations across the country are playing that song and cnn caught up with musgrave this week and asked her about what inspired the song. here's nischelle turner. >> hey, fred, you know, casey musgraves is one of the hottest
artists in country music right now with one of the most popular songs on country radio, it's called "follow your arrow" it's a song she calls a positive anthem for all people but especially young women and the song is being buzzed about because of a line in it where she says kiss lots of boys or kiss lots of girls if that's something you're into. it's a hot topic because it's not often that you see country artists taking this kind of stand in their music especially with a seeming nod to gay rights and we caught up with casey after she performed at the hollywood bowl in los angeles earlier this week and we asked her why this type of song now. >> i think it's 2013. and i think it's time we all just really accept each other and really love each other and i'm just really excited for that, to be in that time period. >> she says to her her lyrics aren't even controversial. ♪ if you save yourself for marriage you're a bore ♪ >> if you listen to the lyrics, it's a positive anthem for people of all kinds across the board just to do whatever makes them happy because, you know, at
the end of the day you're not going to be everybody's cup of tea and that's okay. you just got to make yourself happy and that's what it's about. >> she says this song is about following your heart and not just about supporting same-sex marriage. in previous interviews she said she was told that "follow your arrow" would not get a lot of play on american country radio because of its lyrics, but country music is embracing this song which some say is a big and welcome change for the genre. remember, it was just ten years ago that the dixie chicks faced death threats and had to install metal detectors at their shows because of comments they made about president bush and the iraq war. there's a little change going on here. fred, back to you. >> thanks so much, nischelle turner. we got lots straight ahead in the "newsroom." my colleague don lemon is going to pick it up from here. i'm fredricka whitfield, thanks for hanging out with me afternoon. i'll see you here tomorrow. now you're going to hang out with this man, yeah. >> i watched the nischelle story. we have short memories as americans, don't you think? >> yeah, i guess.
it depends on what. >> it depends on what, right? >> for me usually it's every day. i forgot what i had for lunch today already. >> all right. i'm just talking to you because there's something in the prompter that i don't recognize. this is not -- there we go. okay, now it's fixed. >> now you can take it away. >> fred, have a great one, see you. >> okay. all right. there we go. the right words are on the screen. hello, everyone, i'm don lemon, thank you for joining us. it's the top of the hour. i'm here in new york. protesters are sending a message to the nsa, the old fashioned way, not waiting for someone to spy on their e-mails but going straight to capitol hill today, no eavesdropping necessary to figure out what they want. the rally was organized by a group called stop watching us, a coalition of more than 100 groups from the political left and the political right as well. and they want the spying on americans to end and they want it to end right now.
let's head out to cnn's erin mcpike, she's following this story for us and she's in washington. tell us more about the protests, erin. >> well, don, this is interesting because it is the largest rally we have seen yet, protesting mass surveillance by the nsa and also it was stamped with approval by edward snowden who, of course, was the whistle-blower who brought this all to light. and, in fact, just a couple of hours ago, someone at the rally read a statement that was provided by edward snowden. now, also, this is a very active rally as you may see. we saw some giant cell phones and giant laptops and a lot of big banners with the first and the fourth amendment on them. and basically they were just saying we need to stop mass surveillance and they're upset that there's not a lot of government oversight for it, don. >> so, you know, the president had kind of an awkward moment with angela merkel this week by phone and we've seen outrageous reports of spying on allies in
germany and mexico, and angela merk merkel, how is the white house responding? >> well, generally the white house doesn't respond to the protests and the protests are more in the domestic side of it in terms of the nsa collecting data from private citizens of the united states. but the white house is responding where our allies are concerned and that is the surveillance of foreign leaders. and they're trying to calm some of the tensions that have arisen especially with germany saying that they understand the frustration, they've also acknowledged that germany is sending a delegation in the coming weeks to the united states to meet with some of our diplomatic representatives. so, in general, the white house just understands where it's coming from, where germany is coming from, but we'll see what happens with this. they're not talking about really tamping it down much, but president obama has ordered a review. so, we'll see what comes of this in the coming weeks, don. >> as you said, we shall see. and it looks like a beautiful day if you're going to protest or be out and do whatever in washington there behind you.
thank you, erin. appreciate it, in washington for us. tomorrow on cnn's "state of the union" candy crowley will talk exclusively to congressman mike rogers about the latest developments on the nsa surveillance, he's the president of the house intelligence community on "state of the union." and the weekly address focussed on the ailing obama care enrolling process. and fred upton said the individual mandate the requirement that nearly all americans buy health insurance should be delayed. upton's response comes after contractors who worked on healthcare.gov blame the government for the problems that have riddled the site. and guess who has been assigned to fix the mess the government contractors have helped to fix the site? a government contractor, jeffrey seins is the man who has been made the point repair, he's been given the job to get
healthcare.gov fully operational by the end of november. senator ted cruz who led the charge against obama care, well, he spoke in iowa today. >> let me tell you all right now the single biggest lie in politics. it is that republicans are the party of the rich. what complete nonsense. for a long time i've advocated what i call opportunity conservatism which is that every policy we think about, we talk about, should focus like a laser on easing the means of ascent up to the economic ladder. on how it impacts the least of those among us, how it impacts those who are struggling. >> well, the republican senator ted cruz spoke in iowa today. it is his fourth speech in iowa in less than three months. and last night cruz delivered the keynote address at the republican fund-raiser in des moines. cruz stepped into the national spotlight during the recent 16-day partial government
shutdown. also cruz easily won a presidential straw poll done by a conservative group done earlier this month some consider the value voters straw poll summit to be an early indicator of support for the republican primary campaign. sarah palin is on the comeback trail after keaching a low profile for months. her advisers tell cnn the recent government shutdown fired her up. that battle is right in palin's wheelhouse. former vice presidential candidate will soon launch a national book tour and a trip to iowa. aides say palin may get involved in campaigns to unseat longtime republican senators mitch mcconnell and lindsey graham. stay tuned for that one. a police standoff in northern california that lasted more than nine hours has come to an end with the armed suspect in custody. sacramento police and s.w.a.t. teams swarmed a home in roseville trying to lure out
samuel duran, a wanted parolee, they begged duran to surrender. and when they called out to him, a gunfight broke out. duran took off running and led them on a wild chase. >> i just want to find him. i just want to know where he's at and how he's doing. that's just it. i just want to know where my baby's at. it's a shame happen this way. i did not want it to happen this way and it did. >> we should tell you this, four officers were shot including a federal immigration and customs agent. none of them suffered life threatening injuries. details as we get more on that as well. first it was barney's new york. now, another retail shopping mecca in the big apple is a target for of a racial discrimination suit and this complaint involves a hollywood star. >> this card isn't fake. it's my card. i have so much i.d. on me. this is my card.
it's not a fake card. i just bought this watch. they weren't hearing it. all i kept hearing was it's a fake card. you're going to jail. >> okay. he's an actor on hbo's "tremea" his name is rob brown and he said he was racially profiled in macy's in herald square, and undercover police officers arrested him and accused him of credit card fraud. brown is suing both macy's and the nypd and macy's said it's investigating the allegations which comes on the heels of two african-american shoppers who recently bought expensive items at barney's new york and say they both were accused of using fake cards to make their purchases. >> i had good intentions. i went. i bought my favorite bag. i wanted this bag. i deserved that bag. and then to find out, you know, i'm being accused of using someone else's card? i just really felt demeaned. >> undercover cops on the left
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the students got out of this bus before it was engulfed in flames on i-75 in tennessee. they were on a field trip to the great smoky mountains when someone noticed smoke at the back of that bus. fire investigators say a candle sparked a fire in the bronx that killed three children all younger than 6 years old. the fire came one day after the power company cut off the home's electricity because of unpaid bills. it took around 100 firefighters about 90 minutes to bring the two-alarm fire under control. two more children are in the icu in stable condition. awful story. we're learning more about the woman who rammed her car into the white house barricades locking down the capitol in the midst of a partial government shutdown. a newly released 911 call shows miriam kerry seemed unstable back in november of 2012. >> she's outside now with the little baby without any coat or anything and she's just like physically -- i definitely need to take her somewhere to get
some help. >> kerry died at the hands of capitol police. the revelation raises further questions about when to call police in cases of emotionally disturbed people. it seems like a no-brainer, just call 911, and some families did regrit it because their loved ones ended up dead. here's cnn's russell flores with their story. >> what are you doing to me? >> reporter: elsa cruz was worried when her husband samuel kicked her out of their apartment for no apparent reason. samuel is a bipolar schizophrenic so she called 911. >> he died in his own apartment. >> reporter: she thought she was calling for an ambulance but instead they called the police. >> bang. what happened? did you hurt him? never answered me. >> reporter: police in new rochelle, new york, said samuel lunged at them with a knife and they determined he was a danger to him and others, an edp, an emotionally disturbed person. >> a record of possible violence. it was a good shooting.
in other words, the officers were justified in using deadly physical force. >> reporter: where is the line between helping and hurting? police try to answer the question all the time. about 25% of americans have some form of mental illness. miriam carey was shot dead by d.c. law enforcement. >> he had a baby and she did suffer from postpartum depression with psychosis. >> reporter: she rammed her car into barricades at the white house with her 1-year-old in the back seat. >> they felt there was some particular threat, miriam was not firing any shots, there were no weapons, so we're still very confused as a family as to why she's not alive. >> reporter: new york city's police say in response to about 100,000 edp calls a year. >> he said he would be okay. he said, just go away. >> reporter: she made one of those calls. >> i tell the people, i said, my son's sick. i want an ambulance to take him to the hospital. >> reporter: she was in new york from guinea visiting her son
mohammed. he had no known history of mental illness but she said he appeared depressed. so there were a lot of odd things that you started noticing? >> yeah. something like that and the house were not clean as usual before. >> reporter: police kept her outside. >> this is where they forced the door open, you can see where the metal is bent. >> reporter: police say bah charged at them naked with a knife. they say they tazed him, shot beanbags at him and then fired fatal bullets, all while his mother promised to step in to mediate. >> we don't know the dynamics involved with family members and if we can't confirm that, then we won't do it. >> reporter: during his 28 years with nypd patrick carrollened commanded the emergency service unit that often responds to edp calls and he's now the chief of the new rochelle police department whose officers fatally shot samuel cruz. >> in this department they have
only fired their guns twice and this was one. >> reporter: what would you tell another mother who has a sick -- >> if you ask me today, i can tell them, don't call ambulance. >> ah, rosa flores joins me now. tough situation. what are police saying about these shootings? >> the police won't specifically talk about these cases, you know, they always say our mission is to protect the life, but these families are suing. >> both families are suing, right? and what are the families asking for in these lawsuits? >> it's really interesting because they're asking for a change in policy. they want these two police departments to implement something called the memphis model. it requires 40 hours of training for these police officers and then in these cases when they're actually out in the field, it requires them to not only have themselves present, law enforcement present, but also medical professionals and family to be more involved because in all of these cases, these families want to help and police officers always say, no. >> it's a tough situation. >> it's really tough. >> with someone i dated, i would
call their family when they would do it and not police but it's a tough call. because you are afraid they'll hurt themselves. >> in some cases the families say we call 911 so we can get an ambulance but the cops show up. >> tough one, thank you, rosa, appreciate your reporting. women in saudi arabia jumped in cars today and did the unthinkable. a live report from the middle east on why this is a really big deal. ♪ ♪
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tracking the protest. he joins us now. how many women got behind the wheel today? >> reporter: don, we're hearing at least 23 women have driven today. that's just the number of confirmed now. we're expecting that there will be more women throughout the night going out and driving. that's what many supporters of this october 26th women's driving campaign are telling me. but let's remember, this is remarkable for saudi arabia. this is the last country in the world where women can't drive. and the organizers of this campaign have told me even if a handful of women had gone out today, they would have been pleasantly surprised. more and more have been going out the past two weeks. this is an open-ended campaign and they think more will go out. we're seeing a lot of videos of women driving today and we're even seeing some funny videos emerging from saudi arabia about this. take a look at this music video that was made in which he talks about how women shouldn't be driving as the perspective of saudi men. this is called "no woman, no drive."
♪ good friends we've had and good friends we've lost ♪ ♪ on the highway ♪ in this bright future you can't forget your past ♪ >> reporter: we've also seen videos of women driving just going to the mall to go to the salon saying they don't want to have to wait for drivers to take them. they're saying that really the fear barrier in saudi arabia has been broken for women. their time has come and they want to see that law changed. i should add one more thing, don, we've heard from the riyadh police that at least five women were stopped from driving today but that they were released into the custody of their male guardians who came to pick them up, don? >> ah, very interesting. that bob marley tune, we like that. listen, besides not driving, what other restrictions do women face in saudi arabia? i mean, have they been given any more freedom recently? >> reporter: look, they've been
promised more freedom, don, but they haven't really gotten that freedom. the king there is seen as a cautious reformer. he's made a lot of pledges towards women there. says that they should be more empower empowered, but let's look at the facts women in saudi arabia cannot go to school. they cannot travel. cannot open a bank account. they cannot do practically anything without the permission of their male guardian. we get back to this guardianship system in saudi arabia. they do not have the control over their lives that they want. and they say they need that to change. i grew up in saudi arabia. i can tell you what i'm seeing today is remarkable and these women are very brave to be doing what they're doing risking arrest, risking possible punishment or astostracizing in saudi arabia. it's a very conservative culture. >> thank you, mohammed. coming up a superhero arrives ahead of halloween in time for a very special surprise. two big news making interviews ahead at the bottom
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>> reporter: we have to go back to 1968 to find temperatures this close to cold in atlanta, we drop down to the 30s, not record-setting temperatures, but very cold for this time of year. typically we'd see temperatures like this in mid-november. what happens as we go throughout the afternoon, well, if you're headed to southern california, you're not worried at all about temperatures this cold. readings will be in the 80s. and it will be fairly comfortable, nice rebound coming up for the northeast and new england. they'll be just about seasonable levels as we go throughout the afternoon. and the southeast a little chilly. but watch this in the next three days. temperatures warm up very nicely. in the southeast they could be running as much as 10 degrees above where they should be for this time of year. but flip that with what happens over the next several days. the jet stream dipped across the southeast, plunged the temperatures. we'll start to see the jet stream rise further to the north
as we go in towards sunday and into monday. but just as the jet stream rises to the north and the east, across the interior west we're looking at a dip in the jet stream as a winter storm starts brewing there. so, from western montana, bozeman and billings and all the way down to the wasatch and the front range that's where we're exi exipecting to see some snowfall develop. it might have seemed that winter arrived early, but wait, it could get worse across the interior west and we could see as much as a foot of snowfall. don, back to you. >> all right, karen, appreciate that. stay warm out there. halloween is coming up, and temperatures really tell us that. i would dad, a little early, though, we can give him a pass, he has a good excuse. he traded his fatigues for a spider-man costume to surprise his daughter jessie. just got home from deployment in afghanistan. jessie had no clue he was back. the mask came off and then the
tears poured out. we think we even saw the sergeant get a little misty as well. i'm don lemon, i'll see you back here at the top of the hour. we'll go to sanjay for a little bit. and a programming note for uf, watch anthony bourdain "parts unknown south africa" at 9:00 p.m. eastern. i'll see you back here live at the top of the hour. two big news making interviews to get to today including my candid conversation with former vice president dick cheney about his heart. we'll hear about the unprecedented move he made right after taking office. but first the president's new health care law. you know, congress started hearings this week why the website is such a mess people have been talking about this and kathleen sebelius whose health and human services department runs the site wasn't at the hearing but she'll be at the big hearing next week. more people and not just opponents to obama care but a few supporters as well are calling on the president to delay the individual mandate, the idea that pe