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good evening, everybody. breaking news. how close we came to having vice president hillary clinton today. there is a game change book and the dump joe biden isn't the only one on it. electronics cleared for take off, i'll talk to the computer geek that helped make the faa change its mind about in flight electronics for the first time in 50 years. >> and we will take you down inside a newly discovered tunnel that carries drugs into the united states by the ton.
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we begin with breaking news. inside the reporting that political correspondents kill for and they did it with the blockbuster game change and done it again. the new book is called "double down, game change 2012" and loaded with details how the obama campaign explained dumping joe biden and harry reid got the idea reid didn't pay income tax and more. the book doesn't come out until next week but jonathan martin has all the inside details and joins us now. it's fascinating on your reporting in this. how serious were they looking into having hillary clinton be the vice president? >> it was serious, not that it was intentionally polled and focused grouped. campaigns don't spend the money on focusing and polling groups unless they are seriously exploring something. it was only known but about a half dozen of the top obama senior advisors, people like david axlerod and most notably the chief of staff william daley, then chief of staff who
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became close to joe biden. they are similar age, similar background. >> similar background. you talked to him? >> i talked to him on the phone and he confirmed saying he thought it was his due diligence as chief of staff to at least explore the possibility what hillary clinton would mean for obama in 2012. they concluded she wouldn't add a substantial effect, she would help but not enough to dump biden. >> she might have given a little bump but not a big enough to justify the whole -- >> that was their conclusion at the end of 2011, correct. >> there is also in the book details about the relationship between president obama and former president clinton and president obama said he likes clinton, quote, in small doses? >> right, they were playing golf between the two warring camps, finally making peace and obama came off the course and turns to an aid and says i like him, in doses. i think that sort of captured
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obama's weariness with -- they are going to a fundraiser and president clinton and president obama are waiting in the limbo to go in and president clinton is telling president obama a story. and clinton keeps telling them the one part of the story. president obama is reaching for the door to get out and president clinton wants to keep telling him that participant of the story and they get to the event, they are scheduled to have dinner, clinton and obama, one on one and president obama grabs some staff because he wants cover and the whole meal talks about kids and families because he can't deal with president clinton for hours at a time. >> that's interesting. >> what is interesting ultimately president obama comes around and sees his talent and comes to rely on him not just for a big sewerity and as
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we know, president clinton was a key sure jet for president obama and after that terrible first day president obama had in denver, president obama and clinton are at a big fundraiser at jeffrey's house in beverly hills and the two of them, obama and clinton walk off together, go to the front porch and clinton counsels obama how to recover from the debate. so not only was clinton a big ally on the stump but he became a personal friend. and the first person, by the way, the first person that obama called on election night after hear rg from romney, bill clinton. >> really? >> yeah. >> that's interesting. i want to bring in our chief political correspondent candy crowley. it is interesting to jonathan's report. as much as they might not have cared for him, he realized he needed him. >> that happens a lot in politics. bitter rivalries and throughout his first campaign, you can count bill clinton being one of the biggest rivals of barack obama, didn't think he was ready for it and thought his wife hillary clinton was ready for
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it. we had heard rumors through that time that johnson is talking about that, oh, maybe the president will replace joe biden with hillary clinton. in fact, i think hillary clinton is probably on the record being asked about it because i have a vague memory that the president's numbers were down. you know, all of that kind of thing and i got to thinking today reading jonathan's article about this book that probably one of the happiest people today is hillary clinton for them deciding not to put her on the ticket or ask her to be on it because he's in roughly the same position poll wise right now at the time they were when they were looking around. >> can i ask jonathan a question? >> yes, of course. >> do you get any sense that the president knew that his staff was polling and doing focus groups on hillary clinton? >> well, i asked that very questioned to, candy, as you may imagine to the former chief of staff to president obama. he said he didn't think the
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president was aware, that it was about a half dozen top aides, but he was not sure 100% at least that president obama knew. he said it's possible that obama knew, but he wasn't positive. in the book, they don't have that nailed down 100%, either. so this seems to be the short of high command president obama's white house and campaign, really rough poll numbers. keep in mind in the fall of 2011, president obama's numbers were plunging south and so i think they were looking around figuring out how to change things up. >> so you think the president didn't know about them polling and doing focus groups? >> possibly. really? >> joe biden didn't know. >> there is interesting details you revealed in this book on the republican side. mitt romney considering chris christie and the reasons it didn't go further. >> twice. he had christie on the first short list. he then crosses his name off
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because he is leaning toward paul ryan. and his top advisor is making a case for chris christie and feeding him video so romney comes to reconsider chris christie and at the very last minute the romney campaign does this crash vetting of christie and ultimately conclude that the pay-to-play restrictions in jersey what governors can and can't raise and because of the unanswered questions about christi's background they can't make that pick. the book by john heilemann and mark halpern has this campaign memo from the romney campaign vetters quoted at length here are the unanswered questions we don't know about chris christie. if we pick him after the fact, we should figure out about a, b, c, d, and e. i think in the end there were so many questions about him.
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ryan was seen as a safer pick. >> also, jonathan, there is information about where harry reid got that idea that mitt romney hadn't paid taxes for ten years. >> your viewers will recall last year or last summer, actually, harry reid was having great fun for a long time floating this notion with no evidence, by the way, that mitt romney hadn't paid taxes in ten years. turns out it was john huntsman senior, the father of one of romney's rivals from the primary and they are both longtime rivals, by the way. both families are royalty, deep roots in utah but they were for row shows rivals during the campaign and romney, huntsman himself wanted to run them and huntsman dad wanted him to run the olympics. they have a decade long rivalry culminating in the campaign. romney beats huntsman and then flash forward to later in the election during the summer and huntsman senior, apparently, is spreading dirt to harry reid about romney. >> that's maes. amazing.
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candy, i know you have a question. amazing. candy, i know you have a question. amazing. candy, i know you have a question >> i want to ask a couple things. first of all, the christie pick and looking at him seriously, we were reporting it wasn't something he wanted to do. is there anything in the book about that? and the other thing that strikes me is the person that comes up the worst overall here is probably jon huntsman because he seems to have really ticked off both sides. >> your first question, i think christi was certainly interested, not enough i don't think to resign the governorship because that was talked about, actually, because of those pay-to-play restrictions i'm referring to in jersey what governors can and can't raise from wall street. he was certainly interested enough at being vice president that he turned over some documents, you know, that did offer that. your second question, candy, is absolutely right on. the chapter on jon huntsman in this book reminds me of the reporting in the first book on john edwards, devastating on huntsman, his family and also
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the campaign. it's just a ton of stuff there. >> sounds like a fascinating book. look forward to it. thank you jonathan and kaened. candy. let us know what you think on twitter at anderson cooper. can. let us know what you think on twitter at anderson cooper. can. let us know what you think on twitter at anderson cooper more breaking news into the investigation of benghazi attack that cost four american's lives and keeping witnesses from talking. they seem to be getting the testimony they want. later, authorities say kendrick johnson climbed into a high school gym mat and died there. his parents say he was murdered and federal investigators are getting involved. i'm on expert on softball. and tea parties. i'll have more awkward conversations than i'm equipped for, because i'm raising two girls on my own.
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more breaking news in an exclusive, comes after a year that killed four americans in benghazi, libya. they have been gathering testimony from survivors, a number who are reportedly secret operatives. this week, lindyey graham threatened to hold up nominees for the va until provided. congress is about to compel some of them to testify.
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>> reporter: cnn learned a house intelligence subcommittee is scheduled to hear from cia security officers in benghazi who are expected to tell a much more detailed story on what went on the night ambassador chris stevens and three others were killed in a terrorist attack. the men described by sources as former navy s.e.a.l.s. army special forces and marines under contract to guard cia agents on the ground. the security officers were among those who responded when ambassador steven's compound was attacked on the night of september 11th. sources tell cnn they will appear behind closed doors in classified congressional hearing the week of november 11. members of congress have been trying to get access to them and to other actual cia agents, but as cnn has been reporting, those attempts at least to date have failed. sources tell cnn only one cia operative who was in benghazi during the attacks has gone before the house intelligence committee. frustrated congressman told cnn they have been unsatisfied with the investigation so far conducted by house committee
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chairman mike rogers. rogers' staffs tells cnn the exhaustive review is nine full committee hearings, round table discussions with some administration officials and interim report that the investigation continues. but still, according to sources, only one of the estimated nearly two dozen cia operatives on the ground has testified before members of congress. fred burton, a former state department diplomatic security agent has written a book about the benghazi attack turned into an hbo movie. >> congress, as well as the agency, are going out of their way to protect whatever it was that they were doing operationally in libya. >> reporter: sources say the cia as been trying to keep its employees quiet. cnn reported earlier that some operatives involved in the agency's missions in libya complained they had been subjected to frequent, even monthly polygraph examinations to find out if they have spoken
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to congress or the media according to sources with deep inside knowledge of the agency's workings. the cia says this is false telling cnn not a single cia officer who was on the ground in benghazi during the attacks has been subjected to any cia polygraph intended to discourage them from speaking to congress or as a retaliation adding that to date, some of these officers have already spoken to the oversight committees on benghazi. cnn has heard from congressmen who are unconvinced they are getting the whole truth. one congressman says on condition on the issue that we know what the cia tells us they were doing in libya, but it is unclear if we really know what the agency was up to. >> drew griffin joins me. we're trying to get answers ourselves what happened in benghazi because there are so many unanswered questions. >> the members of congress doesn't want this information filtered which is what you get in these briefings and documents.
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they want them straight from the participants and they want three basic questions. what was the cia doing in libya? there are allegations the cia was operating a gun running program with guns going from libya to syria rebels. an official says that's not true, saying u.s. officials in benghazi in no way were involved in transferring arms to the rebels in syria or any other conflict zone before or after the attack. the second question, what are the details of the failed rescue attempts? these are what the family members want to know. we heard a group of would be rescuers at the cia annex were armed and ready to go within minutes of the attack, four minutes quite frankly. they were held off until finally they on their own decided to stage a rescue. congressmen want to know why the wait. and finally, that over hanging political question did administration know immediately this was a planned terrorist attack and, if so, why did administration officials try to first claim it was a spontaneous riot surrounding an anti-muslim movie.
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those are the questions members of congress have been telling us they want to get answered and now they may get those answers in just the next few weeks. >> all right, drew. appreciate the reporting. in addition to being politicized it has a core of facts and for people like one of our guests tonight deeply personal and terribly sad. candy crowley is with us. also with us tonight is patricia smith, whose son sean was one of the four men killed and we'll be joined by bob bear. candy, let me start with you. republicans want more answers, more transparency, are they being stone walled the way they say they are, or is politics involved here? what do you think is going on? >> yes and yes in this way. lindsey graham and others, mike rogers, have been, for some time, pushing for more testimony and as drew pointed out, more direct testimony that they can hear without the cia's official version so they can put together pieces and
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questions like you just asked they feel they haven't had. is there politics involved? this is an election season. of course, if you just can't separate the two, the policy is the politics and the politics is the policy. they believe that there were serious problems in benghazi, that even if there was something that could not prevent what initially happened that certainly was covered up afterwards, they truly believe this and want to talk to folks. now the cia has been very reluctant to give them active cia members. when you heard drew's report, everything he said about people coming up had a former in front of it. >> right. >> which is a little bit easier. having said that, that you still have the mother of one of those who died not feeling that her questions have been answered, really tells us what the story is about in the end and that's a deeply personal tragedy. >> patricia, i mean, what answers do you want at this point?
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have you been given any answers that are acceptable to you? >> i have been given no answers whatsoever. i have begged and pleaded, please tell me what happened with my son, and i've been told nothing. in fact, i've been treated like dirt. they walked out on me in the hearing. >> is there some -- a specific piece of information that you -- that you want above all else? i mean, obviously, you lost your son in this. this is intensely personal. do you even know the details of how your son was killed? >> i picked it up in bits and pieces on my own. i don't know if they are correct. they haven't -- like i said, i got it from all different sources because nobody in the government would tell me anything. so i got it from the internet. i got it from the people i talked to. i got it from all different kind of places and put it together until i found something that i half way believe, but not from
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the government. >> candy, you know, bob bear who i think we're having trouble establishing contact with, you know, we talked to him before about this and active cia officers, undercover cia officers can testify -- i mean, can, there are ways to do it that they won't be exposed if they appear in front of members of congress. there is a secure room, i believe, they can go to. there is, you know, transcripts that can be redacted. there are ways to go about doing that. >> there have been ways in the past. the intelligence community, as you can imagine, is very reluctant to do that for active cia members. talking to one today after a conversation i had about this, he said here is the problem. we can't take any chances, and take an undercover agent who has testified before congress and then put them back where they were before in another country. they almost have to retire. they agreed with that assumption. what happens with the
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republicans and, in fact, many democrats is when you use the sources and methods, oh, if he told you this, you would know too much -- >> right. >> they think that runs old on the republican side. >> we just got bob in, bob, you were an undercover officer with the cia for many, many years. can you testify and still be an undercover officer, still not have your cover blown? >> oh, absolutely. i was called up multiple times to the hill both before the house and senate. i went to a room called a skiff where you can't bug it. the transcripts were kept by one person. yes, operatives can do it and they should do it in this case, and congress can protect their identity and there is only one case i've ever seen the name leak out of a hearing and that was a long time ago and it was really special circumstances. i don't understand why they can't be brought up. >> bob, one argument that folks in the administration make or the state department make is there is an active criminal
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investigation going on and testimony by individual cia undercover officers could complicate that, do you buy that? >> i don't buy it at all because the cia officers wouldn't testify in a trial in any case. they would send in a stipulation of fact on a piece of paper, that's the way it's done. i don't buy that at all and in in addition, the cia is not being investigated but people that attack the consulate. i'm not clear why there is reluctance going on unless they are afraid to hear what they have to say. >> bob, appreciate you joining us and candy and mrs. smith, i am so sorry for your loss. i appreciate you spending time with us tonight. thank you. the moment kendrick johnson's parents are waiting for. federal authorities getting involved in the investigation of his death. the latest details on that. and we'll speak with a leading voice in the campaign and the campaign that will change the way you fly if you're one of the millions that fly with tablets or iphones or ipods.
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and get a document shredder free. call the number on your screen or go to tonight. a parent burying a child is not the way nature is supposed to work. it's unimaginable when the child's death is a mystery or tangled in controversy. the parents of kendrick johnson have been living that nightmare since their 17-year-old son was found dead in a high school gym in valdosta back in january. they were told it was an accident. they refuse to believe that and developments since then deepened the doubts. today the search for answers got a big boost. the launch of a federal investigation by the u.s. attorney in that region of georgia. victor blackwell was there when they heard the news. >> reporter: huddled around a portable television on the south
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corner where they have staged an eight-month sit-n the family of kendrick johnson watched the announcement they have been waiting for. >> i'm of the opinion my office will conduct a formal review of the facts and investigation surrounding the death of kendrick johnson. >> hallelujah! thank you, jesus! >> reporter: the second big victory for his family. on thursday, the high school was ordered to hand over the full investigative file including the surveillance video. barbara english is his grandmother. >> i'm so happy and i know we trust in the lord and we hadn't been down here rallying for 32 weeks for nothing. >> reporter: michael moore called in the fbi to assist his office in the investigation and to get answers to several basic questions in the teen's january death. >> first, what was the cause of mr. johnson's death? second, was mr. johnson's death the result of a crime?
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third, if mr. johnson's death was the result of a crime, who committed that crime? >> reporter: kendrick's parents never believed the local sheriff' explanation kendrick suffocated after squeezing his 19-inch shoulders into the 14 1/2 inch opening of a gym mat to reach his shoe in the middle of a school day. they spoke with wolf blitzer moments after the announcement. >> i believe indeed that he was murdered. >> do you have any idea who may have murdered him? >> no, i don't. that's what we want to get down to the truth. >> the only question we want to know is why are they covering up for who killed their son. >> reporter: questions to the sheriff's department has made the johnson's suspicion, including why these shoes found yards from kendrick's body were not collected as evidence and how this bloodstain ended up
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on the whole wal and why they never found whose blood it was and the state's autopsy. the official cause of death was positional asphyxia, kendrick was suffocated by his body weight but a second autopsy paid for by the johnson's found that kendrick died from blunt force trauma, a blow to the neck. hundreds have rallied for months for answers and moore says he's received calls from many of the johnson supporters. >> i appreciate the depth of those concerns, but at this time, what we need are people with facts and knowledge of the circumstances surrounding mr. johnson's death to present those to us. >> reporter: written in part, while the sheriff's office has every confidence his officers investigation was handled with the necessary diligence to make sure all leads were examined and exhausted, he welcomes the u.s. attorneys' further review of the case. >> justice for kj is coming. >> reporter: kendrick's family is grateful for the
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investigation but they call it a stepping stone. they say their push for answers will continue. >> got to continue to fight on because justice is done for kj. >> victor blackwell joins us. the johnsons sued for a coroner's inquest. where does that stand? >> reporter: anderson, this case coulding from no official investigation to two in days you mention that lawsuit to get the coroner to investigate this. it's a panel of six people in the community who listened to testimony, look add evidence and they determine if is there a change on the death certificate from accidental to homicide. well, we know that the coroner says he will make a decision on that inquest in the next few days. he says a day or so with an emphasis on the or so. and it's important if a jury changes the cause of death from accidental, which it is now on the death certificate, to homicide, that's forwarded to the district attorney and that would open a local investigation to find the person responsible for that, and that would run
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parallel to the investigation that's happening from the district -- from the department of justice, rather. anderson. >> victor blackwell, appreciate it. i want to bring in jeffrey toobin and criminal defense attorney mark geragos. what is the significance of what the federal government did today? >> it's a new set of eyes and you'll have fbi agents looking at the available evidence, perhaps forensic scientists looking at what they can look at but the problem is it's been almost a year since kendrick died. >> the evidence that was collected has already been collected and the evidence that wasn't collected seems like a lot of that. >> there is no way of undoing that and going back to the gym and getting the sneakers and testing the blood on the wall. they will do their best but i don't think anyone should get their hopes up there is going to be a dramatic break in the case, given the fact so much time has passed. >> mark, the u.s. attorney said himself that federal jurisdiction is limited. what exactly does that mean? >> well, it's limited in the
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sense they don't have -- you're not going to bring a traditional murder case. you may have the violation of someone's rights, things like that and it's one of the few times that i actually agree with toobin. this is a hard case to have somebody revisit a year after the fact forensically, especially if you're going to have somebody change their opinion of what happened before. i've been in that situation before and that's just an incredible amount for a defense lawyer if someone changes their opinion after this has been this kind of a time lapse. >> there is so many bizarre things about this case. not to mention what happened to this young man's body, you know, it was disinterred and found the organs were removed and stuffed with paper. >> that is certainly grounds for an investigation for the funeral home that treated his body in such a horrible way.
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but that is yet another thing that will make the criminal investigation more difficult because you don't have the organs which could help with issues of time and cause of death and the body treated in such a way it's very hard to imagine there will be useful evidence gathered from it. >> and mark, the u.s. attorney still has to determine if there is sufficient information to warrant criminal or civil rights charges. if something criminal happened, is it a guarantee something could be charged federally? >> no. that's part of the problem. that limitation you refer to before, they have specific areas they can get into and you know, when you've got a situation like this with these bizarre kinds of body parts being removed and then you're digging it up and things like that, it's hard enough to come up with a traditional criminal case. now you're trying to fit that case into the box that the u.s.
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attorney is in, which is much more limited than what a traditional state or county prosecutor could do. i just think it's a herculean fact. i don't think you'll see anything happen at least on the federal level. >> the good news is if the u.s. attorney finds evidence that a crime was committed, they will find someone to prosecute it. if they don't do it, they will pass the evidence to the local authorities. i'm confident if they can figure out a crime happened, someone will be prosecuted but i'm very skeptical. >> this prior family who basically had a vigil outside for the last year six days a week. >> well, good for them. it be succeeded at least in keeping the case alive. >> absolutely. sometimes that the the only way you can get action in this case. >> mark, appreciate you being with us and jeff toobin as well. the man behind the faa's visit, he is getting them to relax rules. i'll talk to him ahead and if you go on a flight if you can use your ipad or iphone.
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today, countless travelers got the news they have been waiting for. they will soon be able to use ebooks and tablets and other portable electronic devices before talk offs and landings, making calls on cell phones will be prohibited. it's based on a committee to
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evaluate the issues but those credited for changing it and technology columnist, nick has bone a crusade to make this happen. he joins me now. first of all, congratulations. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. did you have any idea it would get the rules changed? >> no, i just didn't understand why the rule existed. i had been flying for many years and done electrical engineering work before i was a reporter. and i kept looking at the kindle and it's essentially a glorified calculator and i said why can't we use these devices on a plane? so i began questioning the faa and we went through a series of back and forths and at one point we went down to a testing facility in palo alto and found out that you physically actually could never fit enough kindles on a plane to harm it and so that's happened. >> so what will change?
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you can't make a cell phone call because that would frankly drive everybody bananas, i'm all for that. >> can you imagine sitting next to a 14-year-old who is like this the whole time on a flight? no, that will not happen. what will happen is in the next few weeks you'll see certain airlines that allow this but you'll get on a plane and you won't hear the turn off your devices for takeoff and landing. you'll hear please turn your devices into airplane mode and you can to read a book or magazine or whatever you were doing on your devices. >> but things like sending texts when taking off, that, you can't do. you'll have to turn it in airplane mode. >> that you can't do. you have to turn it into airplane mode. once you're in the air and have wi-fi you can send certain things. the only way to turn it off if there is turbulence on the way down, they will ask you about 10,000 feet. other than, you will not have to turn off the device any more. >> i read the faa really had not changed the regulations in about 50 years. obviously technology changed.
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but what was the idea -- why was this regulation there in the first place? >> it came about in 1964 and the reason was the planes back then were not insulated for electronics and so on. and you had weird electronics back then. you had people using cb radios and people with these very bizarre portable televisions, and they would go on planes and bring these things with them and there was interference and interference from radar and finally interference from the television signals that were sent over the air waves. so the faa and groups said look, we have to protect the planes from the outside things and set up these rules. ironically, one of the things that's funny is up until now, even today, you can get on a flight and you can use an electric razor because that was never a banned electronics, so it was very clear when i started reporting all this stuff that if we could use an electric razor and we couldn't use a kindle,
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that there was a problem and now finally we have that change. >> nick, can you focus now on getting banned nail clippers because i've had people clipping thank you nails next to me on planes and even toenails which i got to find so disgusting! >> i think that's disgusting when anyone does it anywhere in public but i will see what i can do. we'll do some tests at nail clipping labs. >> nick, appreciate it very much. more happening tonight. susan hendrick with the 360 bull tin. >> technical experts are coming in to fix the obama care website, dozens of people will try and get the website running properly. edward snowden starting a new job tomorrow in russia. his attorney says the nsa leaker has been hired by a russian website to perform maintenance. he was granted a year-long asylum in russia after escaping from the united states.
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a victory for the new york police department. a judge ruled the nypd can resume the controversial stop and frisk policy while other appeals are heard. opponents say it unlawfully targets african-americans and latinos. the fda reports 12% of spices imported into the u.s. are contaminated with bug parts, rodent hairs and other unappetizing materials. the report notes that 7% of spices tested were contaminated with salmonella. >> see, that's why i eat bland food, no spices. >> good thing, i may, too. >> i do that because i'm boring. thanks very much. up next, a super tunnel, fascinating, a massive under ground passageway used to smulg drugs from tijuana, mexico, to san diego. we'll take you inside this tunnel. #%tia[
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introducing cardioviva: the first probiotic to help maintain healthy cholesterol levels without a prescription. cardioviva. three people in custody after investigators seized 325 pounds of cocaine and 8 tons of marijuana after the discovery of an under ground tunnel between san diego and mexico. these are enormous operations, i went into a tunnel along the united states, mexico border before. they can be pretty elaborate. take a look. this is the motor works for an elevator, it's a primitive elevator but they brought it down here.
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this is the elevator itself. it's basically a large cart on wheels and we'll take you down and show you what happens now. you really get a sense when you do down in the tunnel the amount of work it took to build this. look, you can really see the boar marks used to tunnel deep underground and must have made a lot of noise. this is solid rock here that they are -- that they are digging through and they use clearly heavy machinery. look. this is all jackhammers, mining equipment. we're now 90 feet deep and there is an electrical system in place, plugs here. there is an electrical box. there is still the ventilation system, lights still -- whoa, the lights still work and phones are even this deep underground.
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what is remarkable about this tunnel, according to authorities is check out the walls. they put cinder block so they invested a lot of time and money, perhaps more than a million dollars, maybe $2 million to build this tunnel and might have taken them as much as a year. i've been in two of the sophisticated tunnels the last couple of years and nen seen cinder block walls like that. those were two separate tunnels in 2009 and 10:00. the tunnel they found in san diego, they call a super tunnel. you left the press conference where they explained what they found. >> reporter: in audition to the cocaine and marijuana they found in there, they found a tunnel that was not quite as sophisticated as the ones you were in. it shows the investigators going down a ladder into that tunnel.
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may have been more if they didn't bust it. there was an electric railway, lighting, ventilation, clearly a very big tunnel and had it been operational, and investigators are quick to point out they busted this tunnel before it was operational. if it was operational, they would have moved tons and tons of drugs through that tunnel. >> how was it discovered? >> reporter: through a source that they are not naming tipped off investigators that this tunnel was being built. they then set up an operation where they watched this location. they watched some drugs being moved to chula vista, california. they busted them and traced them back to here. the one thing amazing to this tunnel, 600 yards to the mexican border and the other side a warehouse and this one is right next to the ota mesa chamber of commerce. so these tunnel makers dug it all the way right here to this location.
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they said it zigzagged a bit but hit their spot right in the place where nobody would have expected it. >> one of the ones i was at had an exit or entrance had a hydraulic floor underneath a toilet, an entire false floor that would rise and lower. incredible. do they know which cartel was involved in this tunnel? >> reporter: they are saying it significant they found cocaine and the first time they have found cocaine in one of these tunnels. the investigators say it shows the desperation on the part of cartels. they are bringing it over the boarder in ultra light aircraft and under the border and bringing it around -- by ocean as well. so they are trying to send a signal if they bring it any of those ways, they will be busted. anderson? >> miguel marquez, thank you. score one for the people of boston, a look at the world series win and what it means for the city when we continue.
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time now for "the ridiculist." tonight i'll talk about the world series. this may come as a shock but i'm not exactly what you call a huge sports fan. for the last few weeks when i heard people talk about big papi, i thought they were referring to kim's sugar daddy from "real housewives atlanta."
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>> when i want something pricey or expensive i call big papa i do, i just ask him. big papa still has a piece of my heart. >> i need him to step up to the plate. >> that's a baseball thing, right? anyway, so i don't know that much about baseball. it's a fact. i'm not going to pretend. here is another fact, i know a little bit about the people of boston. i was there six months ago and when the city was struggling in pain but not broken. i met the survivors, people in grief and it's been about healing. today it's about celebrating and a whole lot more than just baseball. >> again, our beloved red sox have become world champions. proving that boston never quits. >> while this team can't bring back the lives we lost or heal the wounds inflicted, it did what no other team besides the red sox can do, it reaffirmed our common bond in massachusetts in new england and with red sox nation fans everywhere. >> even if you're not a red sox
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fan you have to say it's a wonderful thing for the city of boston and the fans there after everything they have been through. >> so that's about as jubilant as you'll see the political types get. for the real story, you got to go to boston. >> it hasn't happened at fenway park for 95 years! the red sox are world champions. >> the way the team came together is literally reflective of the way the city came together and it's amazing, and i'm so glad to be a part of red sox nation! >> everybody is out. everybody is excited. everybody is united. >> boston strong. >> awesome. boston strong. everyone on the team. >> this is for you, boston. >> so to the red sox and the
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people of boston and from all of us, even people like me that don't know the difference between the strike zone and twilight zone, congratulations, although i'm not that bad. so good to see you smile, incredibly, completely ridiculously good. that's it for us. thanks for watching. "early start" begins now. streets and cars are under water in texas. our indra petersons is tracking the latest forecast. >> he thought as the chief of staff to explore the possibility of what hillary on the ticket would mean for president obama