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the -- >> there will be a bittersweet moment, passing by the finish line of the marathon of bombing site. so this is sort of bittersweet. >> yeah. >> a huge celebration. all right. that will do it for us today. thank you for watching today. >> keep it right here, though. there's much more ahead in the next hour of the "cnn newsroom." we turn it over to our colleague fredricka whitfield. hey, fred. >> and we'll pop in on boston to give folks an idea, take you there, as they do approach the finish line. it will be bittersweet. thank you so much, guys. have a great afternoon. >> you, too. >> thank you so much, everyone, for joining us. we're in the 11:00 a.m. hour in the "newsroom." it starts right now. -- it's utter mayhem. people will tripping all over each over on the floor, bags everywhere, crying. >> a shooter opens fire at
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l.a.x. one tsa officer is dead, several others hurt. we're digging to find new details about the suspect and what his real goal may have been. and new hope this morning for a family of a teenager found dead inside a gym mat. the fbi is now investigating whether kendrick johnson was murdered, or if it was a tragic accident. and the turnout strong in boston. thousands are packing the streets for parades celebrating the world champion red sox. a disturbing picture is coming together for the man who burst into the los angeles airport, shooting several tsa officers, and killing one. the fbi says he is paul anthony ciancia, and he was carrying materials, including an anti-tsa rant and a reference to a new world order, according to a federal law enforcement official.
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when shots were fired, people in terminal 3 ran for their lives yesterday. cell phone video obtained by tmz shows the chaos as officers yelled at people to get down. >> clear? on the floor! on the floor! on the floor now! on the floor! >> go, go, go! >> on the floor! >> come on, you guys. >> go, go! [ alarm sounding ] go, go! [ sirens ] [ bleep ] this is crazy, dog. >> and there you see, without recitation, people taking off, running for their lives in terminal 3 at l.a.x. the scene stunning and terrifying. police shot the suspect several times in the chest, according to
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an intelligence source. our affiliate kcal got this exclusive video, and appears to show the suspect handcuffed to the stretcher. the suspected shooter lived in l.a. but was from new jersey. chris lawrence is in pennsville where the suspect's family lives. so, chris, what has been going on outside the home? >> reporter: well, fred, the police have been posted outside the home since yesterday. the family was inside since then talking with officers. a lot of confusion over why this happened. probably asking a lot of the same questions about what, if any, signals were there. the police are telling -- or i should say, the family is telling police they didn't see any. they say they did not know that paul ciancia had a rifle. they say there was no history of mental illness. they say paul was back here over the summer for a wedding, and at
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that time, everything seemed relatively normal. i talked to a friend of his who said he doesn't remember any sort of radical thoughts or ideas, anything like that, hearing anything like that expressed. the family says the first sort of indication they got that something was wrong were these text messages that he started sending to his brother. >> basically the text message was to the little brother, and the way it was written, he had some concern about it, and that's when they brought it to our attention. >> reporter: yeah, those text messages were said to be angry, rambling, alarming, something that maybe indicated that paul ciancia might try to harm himself. when the family got those messages, they called the local police here, who then got on the phone with the lapd to say, look, go check it out, make sure he's okay. the lapd went to his apartment. they found his roommates, but he was gone.
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they said he seemed fine, but at that hour, paul ciancia had already left and gone to l.a.x. fred in. >> all right. thank you so much, chris lawrence, we'll check back with you later this morning and in the afternoon. back in los angeles, people are mourning the death of tsa officer hernandez. today, airport police are wearing black bands in his honor, and they will wear them until he is laid to rest. dan simon is live in los angeles. dan, we know most of terminal 3 still closed. what is the latest on the investigation? >> reporter: well, regarding terminal 3, we don't know when it's going to reopen. of course, you have a lot of passengers who want to go into the terminal and retrieve their belongs. when this happened be people dropped everything, hit the exits and left their stuff. they're eager to go retrieve it. and the fbi says they're still investigating at this point terminal 3 is off-limits to the public.
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in terms of the investigation, fredricka, we know this is somebody, according to sources, who espoused anti-government views. this is somebody who obviously had anger directed at tsa agents. in terms of the chronology, fredricka, it's understood what happened. he came into the terminal, 9:20 a.m. yesterday, encountered two tsa agents shot, both of them -- one of them killed, 39-year-old girardeau hernandez, he is the first tsa agent to die in the line of duty, since the tsa was formed back in 2001. he then makes his way over to the departure area, the main airport, if you will, and that's where you had many people run for their lives. take a listen to how one passenger described the scene. >> it didn't sound like a pop. it sounded like a boom. so, at first, i couldn't tell if
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there was an accident or an explosion or what it was, before we had the chance to turn around and hear someone scream "gun," and security agents were screaming, get down, get down, get down. people were crawling all over each other. and my glasses got knocked off somewhere in between, so i can't see much. i just held onto my husband's hand. >> reporter: well, in terms of the suspect, ciancia, we know he took several rounds to the chest. at this point, we don't know his condition. we know he's in the hospital, and we don't know whether authorities have been able to question him. back to you. >> all right, dan simon, keep us posted. thank you so much. so from tragedy to triumph right now, let gaes to boston. the city is ecstatic, celebrating the red sox world series victory, but it's not just about baseball. it's also a sign of the city's resilience, six months after the terrorism attack at the boston marathon. alexandra field joining us live now from the parade. so, alexandra, we know the
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parade is making its way past the harm crowds of people. in fact, right behind you right now. what great timing. give us an idea of what this is doing to the city there. we can kind of see for ourselves, but talk to us. >> reporter: fred, i have to admit, there's so much excitement here, i can't even hear what you're asking me, but i can tell you this, this is a tremendous celebration here in boston. look at the confetti raining down on us right now. this is bhoil stone street, the eyes of the world were here last april when the marathon runners made their way over the finish line. the eyes of the world are back here today for what is truly a tremendous celebration. we'll give you a look out here right now. these are boston's iconic duck boats making their way up boylston. they've been carrying team members on them. they have whipped the crowd up into a frenzy. there are about a million people expected to be out here today, lining this parade route. it started at fenway this morning. the team had a private breakfast. they had some honored guest,
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including marathon bombing survivors with them. some of the survivors were on board the duck boats as they came up boylston today. the fans couldn't get enough of it, cheering for the survivor, cheering for the team that's brought home a world series championship, and cheering for a city that's fought hard and come back in six months. fred? >> and so, alexandra, let's try it, maybe you can hear me now, since the crowd is noisy and boisterous at this exact minute, when it goes across the finish line of the marathon, what is expected to take place there, if anything? >> reporter: fred, that finish line is just down boylston street this way. so those duck boats have already crossed over. what we were told what's happened was a brief tribute, a moment of silence potentially, because the crowds are so loud and so enthusiastic here, we can't tell if that moment was observed. but we know there was a plan to stop those boats as they approached the finish line and pay tribute, and pay honor to
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those people who were hurt at the finish line last april. fred? >> all right, fantastic. many people really kind of finding that this is symbolic of the city. it is a comeback for everyone. thank you so much, alexandra field, appreciate that in boston. congrats, everybody, there. all right. let's go back out to the west coast momentarily. the shooting at l.a.x. has left a whole lot of question, and the one is, what might have triggered him to open fire? an fbi profiler joins us next to help us sort it all out. max and penny kept our bookstore exciting and would always come to my rescue. but as time passed, i started to notice max just wasn't himself. and i knew he'd feel better if he lost a little weight. so i switched to purina cat chow healthy weight formula. i just fed the recommended amount... and they both loved the taste. after a few months max's "special powers" returned...
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the shooting at los angeles international airport caused delays for many passenger, not just at l.a.x., but really across the country. more than 1,500 flights were affected by the deadly shooting. nick valencia is live for us at the busiest airport,
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hartsfield-jackson in atlanta, so are things getting back to normal across the board? >> reporter: relatively speaking, fred, they are back to normal. yesterday, in fact, we were here just in the hours after that shooting and airport police were quickly ushering those that were dropping family and friends off at the ticketing and check-in. this morn, things are seemingly back to normal. airport officials do tell us, though, that there is an up tick in security, especially those plane clothes officers who, even if we're not able to see it, they are here, and i'll let the cameraman here pan a little bit. it's sort of a slower than average day. passengers we've spoken to around the airport, some are more concerned than others. >> i've never put off by isolated random acts of violence, so i'm not worried in the slighter. i'm not nervous. airport security, as far as i'm concerned, is top drawer. all the checks you go through every time you get on a plane these days make it pretty difficult to be -- to be a
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terrorist or anything like that. so i'm perfectly happy to put my faith in the security services at airports. i've had a lot of experience of them, and i never feel unsafe. >> reporter: and just a quick note, fredricka, i just came back from the security checkpoint area. and it's taking about 15 minute for passengers to get through the security checkpoint. tsa officials tell me that's actually faster than normal. fred? >> okay. maybe everyone has picked up the pace today, then, i understand. thank you so much, nick. investigators say suspected shooter, paul ciancia, had no history of mental illness, and his family didn't even know he owned a gun. so what might have triggered him to allegedly open fire inside a crowded airport in los angeles? to help me get to the bottom of that, former fbi profiler mary ellen o'toole. good to see you. >> thank you. >> so in your experience, you know, what causes someone to
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just snap if that's, indeed, the case here? >> i don't believe that he snapped whatsoever. and there's a difference between the triggering event and motivation. so the triggering event could have been something that occurred recently -- the loss of something, the loss of a job, the loss of a partner. it could be broader, and just angry at his life, the way it was going. but the motivation would be long time and coming. that didn't just happen the other day. there are actually two different issues here that we're looking at. and his motivation would have been, from my experience, more of this kind of global view of the world, where the world is his enemy. it's not just tsa. it's not just the fbi or the irs. i think once the investigation is complete, they'll see a much more global view that he had of the world. >> and it is early on in the investigation, because we heard
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from investigators that even family members, and our chris laurent reported, that family members said, everything seemed normal, the interaction with them seemed pretty normal, until recently when he sent some sort of text messages to his little brother, which family members say were alarming. but we don't know the exact content of that message, and we don't know, when we hear recently, just weeks ago, days ago, a matter of months ago. how will investigators try to piece things together? i mean, they clearly are more interested in the events that occurred. but how far back might they try to, you know, connect some dots about what warning signs there may have been, what may have been missed? >> what they'll do is they'll look at the warning seens, and the signs, we call what happened in terms of yesterday, in terms of the messages, leakage. and we know leakage occurs in these kinds of cases, where the
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shooter will, before the event, they'll tell somebody directly or indirectly what they plan to do. so they'll go back a period to pick up more warning signs. that's one of the phases. but this attitude, this thinking, this world view about how to deal with one's problems and i'll pick up a gun, and that's the right then to do, and that's how i'm going to handle it, those kinds of feelings and attitudes would probably have gone back years, and he may not have manifested them to people around him. so they'll have to go back, actually, years to develop when this -- see when this kind of thinking really developed. but the warning signs, much more short term. >> hmm, all right. former fbi profiler mary ellen o'toole, thank you so much for your time and insight this morning. >> you're welcome. let's move on to boston. a whole lot of inspiration there. hundreds of people are out for a parade, celebrating the red sox victory. but it's not just about that big win. people are also honoring the
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survivors and victims of the boston marathon bombing. sox star pitcher, jon lester, tells cnn how they actually inspired him. that's coming up next. ♪ [ male announcer ] staying warm and dry has never been our priority. our priority is, was and always will be serving you, the american people. so we improved priority mail flat rate to give you a more reliable way to ship. now with tracking up to eleven scans,
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it is palpable.
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the excitement and relief of a boston red sox world series win just six months after the city endured tragedy. right now, a boisterous parade still unfolding right now to the throngs of thousands out there on boylston street there in boston. some of the biggest names from the team had been using this moment of victory to speak out about how the boston marathon bombings last april affected them, and how the survivors actually inspired them. star pitcher jon lester talked to our rachel nichols about his motivation. >> every year, someone wins the world series, but this year, it felt like a whole city won it, and that's not just because this is boston, the place where everyone's thrilled if the baby's first word is "sox," but because in the wake of the horrific boston marathon bombings that literally ripped the city apart, it was the red sox that gave people something to rally around, gave them a
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place to gather and cheer and hug. this season, fenway wasn't just a ballpark. it was a grassy runway for the wounded to strut, some on their prosthetic legs, to show the world they were knocked down maybe, but not knocked out. i spoke to jon lester the day after the team won the world series, and he explained how the survivors had become the team's inspiration. >> i think it kind -- it motivates you a little bit, you know, as far as the days you're kind of struggling. you know, you have days where, you know, you go out, and you pitch, and you feel lethargic or whatever. you just -- it's grind of the season. and when you're walking in from the bull pen, and those guys are coming by, it's, like, okay, it doesn't matter. i've got to find a way, you know? these guys are in wheelchairs right now. i mean, they've lived half their life walking, and one day, one second, they're in a wheelchair. and it's, like, hey, it does put -- it goes back to the woe
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is me, it doesn't matter how i feel, i need to compete for these guys. >> the words boston strong were etched into center field at fenway for a reason. it's not just the slogan, but it's the heart -- well, the center -- of how the community chose to define itself in the wake of the bombings. they're not victims, they're survivors. the fans, the city, they felt like they won the world series together, and they're celebrating now big time. >> thank you so much, rachel nichols. of course, more images here of the boston strong feeling with the parade taking place in the center in the heart of the boston area. what a beautiful aerial shot right there, watching the parade. and it does involve red sox players and, of course, many of the survivors of the tragedy six months ago at the end of the boston marathon. all right. something else we continue to watch this weekend. cnn's push for answers, and this week, major developments in the
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all right. welcome back to the newsroom. major developments in a case that cnn has been digging into for more than six months now.
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a u.s. attorney announced this week that he will launch a federal investigation into the death of 17-year-old kendrick johnson. johnson was found dead inside a rolled-up gym mat at his high school in valdosta, georgia, in january. officials say johnson suffocated after falling into the gym mat while reaching for a shoe. but his parents believe he was murdered. now, at the request of their lawyers, federal prosecutors are stepping in. >> at this time, however, i am of the opinion that a basis exists for my office to conduct a formal review of the fact and investigations surrounding the death of kendrick johnson. i do this with an open mind, neither accepting nor rejecting the opinions of anyone who has previously investigated the circumstances of his death. >> cnn's victor blackwell is joining me now. so, victor, what happens now? will a federal investigator take over the case, or re-evaluate what state and local authorities have done? >> there's a combination.
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michael moore, the u.s. attorney you just heard from, he will do both a review and an investigation. he says that he's going to go, and with the fbi, with him, go back to valdosta, both to review the case that was completed by the county sheriff's office, but in many way, it will be treated like a cold case. i had a conversation with a former special fbi agent, who says the agents will go there and create some of the file of their own. they're going to interview some of the students who were there that day. they're going to talk to the pathologist and the state medical examiner themselves. so parallel, they're going to review what's happened, but also they're going to create their own investigation and their own investigative file. >> so what we're looking at is videotape, fairly recently released videotape that shows now this young man, kendrick johnson, walked into the gym. you see there are other folks playing in the gym. clearly, people were interviewed from local authorities, were they not? i mean, what would be different here? how would the stories change?
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or was it the case that there weren't enough interviews to correspond with the number of people that were in this gym? the me lapse of time from when you see these people to the discovery of this young man? >> let's talk about the video we're watching right here, because if you look at it, there's what we call in this industry, a jump cut. you see players there on the -- on the basketball court, their faces are blurred, because they're minoring. we've made that choice at cnn. and then, they're gone. you see kendrick run in. what we don't know is the time between that basketball game and his running in. we know his running in was about 1:09 p.m. now, the family will say they're happy that the fbi's coming in to do this investigation, because they believe there was a cover-up to protect either the people responsible or whom ever those people are connected to. so they don't believe that everyone who should have been spoken with was. much like they don't believe all of the evidence was not collected -- >> they believe intentionally omissions. >> omitting these things
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intentionally, and then not the proper analysis of what they had once they collected it. >> very good. keep us posted. again, you mentioned the federal investigation on the case itself, and an investigation that also is looking into those who have investigated this case thus far. >> absolutely. >> victor blackwell, thank you very much. we'll see you throughout the afternoon. >> sure. >>. >> another major investigation still under way. this time, involving l.a.x. after what happened yesterday. the deadly shooting. we have the latest from the airport on what is opened at that airport and what remains closed today. ound. but it doesn't usually work that way with health care. with unitedhealthcare, i get information on quality rated doctors, treatment options and cost estimates, so we can make better health decisions. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. why would i take one pepcid® when i could take tums® throughout the day when my heartburn comes back? 'cause you only have to take one... [ male announcer ] don't be like the burns.
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all right. welcome back to the "cnn newsroom." five things crossing the cnn newsdesk right now. number one -- passenger luggage is still in terminal 3 at l.a.x.
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after people dropped everything and ran during a shooting yesterday. a tweet from the airport today says passengers can get luggage left behind in other terminals, but not from terminal 3 just yet, where the shooting took place. the ticket counter in terminal 3 was reopened today, but no flights are leaving from there. yesterday, a gunman opened fire at a security checkpoint, killing one tsa officer. and number two -- it's a sea of red today throughout the city of boston. fans are lining the streets right now, still celebrating the red sox's latest world series championship. the parade is slowly making its way from fenway park across the boston marathon finish line, which it did moments ago. but continues on boylston street and ending at the charles river. and number three -- the way your dog wags his tail. it actually means something in kind of doggie language. [ laughter ] a new study says if the tail is wagged towards the right side of the dog's body, that he's happy.
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the first question is, often, what did the president know and when did he know it? well, recently, the white house has said the president -- president obama didn't know about the irs targeting tea party groups, that he was out of the loop on nsa eavesdropping, and the latest episode, not knowing about the technical problems plaguing the obama care website before its october 1 launch date. so is the president being shielded by his own staff? let's bring in presidential historian allen lickman, a professor at american university, professor lickman, good to see you. >> same here. >> so is this customary that the president may not know everything? >> of course, the president doesn't know everything. but it's also customary to have plausible denial when things go wrong to say the president didn't know it. as a political historian, my
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opinion is always that the president knows regardless of what his aides may say. and barack obama is a hands-on president. he has his fingers in every pie. of course, he knew about these things. he might not have known the fine detail, but i firmly believe he knew the broad outlines -- >> but if the president knows stuff, then the president runs a great risk -- his credibility, everything is on the line by his spokesperson, staffers saying he didn't know if, indeed, he really did know. why take that kind of risk? >> well, you know -- well, you know, because they learn nothing from history. they keep making this mistake of covering up and covering up. how many times have we seen that? even in much bigger issues than the ones we're facing today. barack obama, you know, at one time, was a fresh, exciting, creative personality. i think what's happened to him is he's fallen victim to the washington bubble.
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he's got caught up with the hucksters, the handlers, the pollsters. >> that is inevitable in your view? >> it's almost inevitable. it happens to virtually every president, and it's happened to obama. and, you know, he's still got time. he needs to escape that, and be the exciting barack obama of a few years ago, otherwise the second term is going to be wasted. >> well, this week, perhaps you even caught it, former chief of staff rahm emanuel defended the president, which he's known him for years, during the interview with jake tapper. listen to what was said. >> there've been criticisms of him as disengaged. do you -- >> that is the furtherest from the truth about the president. i used to see him every morni morning -- i used to see him every morning, three four times during the day, and every evening before we went out. when i saw him every morning, he had read the material presented to him by everybody. >> okay.
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so he says, you know, he is not one in the dark. he is exactly as you described who he is, hands-on all the time. >> that's right. i don't think the issue is disengagement. the issue is much bigger things for this president. number one, the vision has kind of been lost. and that's what the consultants and the pollsters do to you. they always tell you, don't take risks. don't do the big picture. do the small picture. and secondly, he hasn't been in control of the message. you know, at one point, he was really a great communicator in his own way, rivaling ronald reagan, and again, that seems to be lost, because when you get in the bubble, those folks pull you down to the lowest common denominator. they used to say, let reagan be reagan. by gosh, for the remainder of this second term, obama needs to be obama, and get rid of all of those hucksters who have bedevilled his presidency. >> wow. we'll have to leave it right there. american university professor allen lickman, thank you so
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much. perhaps the white house was listening to you. >> let's hope. >> all right. thank you so much. all right. a spat between a southern california hot sauce plant and its neighbors is getting even hotter. this week, a judge refused to halt production of the company's wildly popular chile sauce. people living near the factory have complained about the pungent smell coming from the facility. miguel has more on this controversy. >> reporter: call it chile gate 2013, saraja hot sauce, the telltale rooster on the top and bottle is in the hot seat, complaints of the smell emanating from the new plant in east los angeles is making people sick. >> it smells more like pepper. it's very, like stinging. >> reporter: celeste gomez, a college freshman, who lives in the shadow of the plant, says it makes her sneeze. the city is filing an injunction
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to force the plant to fix the problem or shut down. >> now seems like the -- they are not friendly to me. >> reporter: david tran is the vietnamese immigrant who turned the mix of red jalapeno peppers, vinegar, garlic salt into the multi- million dollar plan. he said it cost $40 million and has state-of-the-art air filters, even taking the media to the roof to prove it. at fault, its harvest and chile grounding time. truckload after truckload brought in over a three-month period. in the last week, the air quality department logged 11 complaints. it sent an inspector citing no smells or violations. while it may look hotter than hades, it's about half where tabasco sauce is and nowhere
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near as hot as the hottest chiles in the world. >> one, two, three. >> here's a man eating a hibokia chile. one of the hottest. [ groans ] the saracha chile not nowhere near as hot. >> if it's possible to fix the problem, then that'll be best. because even one of my friends recently got a job there. >> reporter: how hot is too hot? now in the hands of a judge. miguel marquez, cnn, los angeles.
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>> i had cousins in long island with four feet of water in their house. >> reporter: last year, when sandy washed over the city, it swept away the great race. the city officials tried valiantly to run it as scheduled, but the massive property loss and human suffering proved too much. >> the best way to help new york city at this time is to say that we will not be conducting the 2012 i.n.g. new york city marathon. >> reporter: now its return is being heralded as symbolic of the city itself. back are 48,000 runners pouring more than $300 million into the economy. >> it's important this year, because of what happened last year. >> reporter: back are the elite athletes like med. in 2009, he became the first american to ring new york in more than two decade, and he's brought some perspective.
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>> you know, winning is not about first place. about getting the best out of yourself. >> reporter: back, too, are the millions raised for charity. even with the cancellation last year, runners raised more than $30 million for groups like back on my feet, which helps the homeless, karina's running for them. >> it shows the spirit of the marathon. it's incredible what people can overcome. >> reporter: in short, that's what the marathon's return has been all about, a whole city overcoming the worst and getting back to its best. one step at a time. tom foreman, cnn. and he is an astronaut who reached new heights with the music video. that was out of this world, the so-called singing astronaut joining me live to talk about the newfound fame and life in outer space. of course, back on earth. i'm beth... and i'm michelle. and we own the paper cottage.
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this week on the science behind, we take a look at chris hatfield's explorations in space. the former nasa astronaut has been on three missions, including one as the commander of the international space station, that lasted 144 days. that's where he earned the nickname, "the singing astronaut," for this performance from space. ♪ this is ground control to major tom ♪ ♪ you've really made the grade and the papers want to know ♪ ♪ whose shorts you wear >> that's fun. the video went viral, of course, getting more than 18 million views, and making hatfield a bit of a star among his astronauts. and everybody else, too. now he's written a book called an astronaut's guide to life on earth.
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commander chris hatfield joining me now from washington. good to see you, commander. >> nice to see you, fredricka, thanks. >> what is the lessons space taught you about how to better live life on earth? >> you know, we do one of the most dangerous things that anybody faces, and that is riding up an elevator, crawling in on your hands and knees, and riding a rocket to space. and the real lesson from that is, how do you prepare for something that is inherently terrifying? how do you get yourself ready? because a lot of things scare people, and people are a little bit paralyzed by fear. but how do you break things down? how do you learn the lessons in advance? how do you sweat the small stuff? every little bit. >> yeah. >> so that when something really terrifying is happening, you're not panicked and waving your arms around, but, in fact, you are focused, you take all of the right actions, and you know how to make something successful. and that was part of -- one of the things i learned as an astronaut, and part of the reasons for writing the book.
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>> that's incredible, because fear is usually the thing that stands in the way of somebody reaching for their dreams. you had your aspirations of going to space. you probably weren't thinking about all of the inherent dangers, were you? you were thinking about the goal, which is, you know, the fascination of space exploration? how did you get past -- or not even look at, or perhaps overlook -- the fears? >> it comes -- >> the dangers, i should say. >> it comes through visualization and preparation, you know? not just hoping things won't happen. it's visualizing disaster on a regular basis, it sounds good, but it's not. we're in the business of visualizing disaster, getting the people around that can really talk your way through it, think about it, and develop a set of rules and personal behaviors. so then, actually, when things go badly, you don't get that horrible rising feeling -- >> panic. >> -- and, in fact, you feel calm. >> mm. >> it actually makes us optimistic. makes me optimistic. >> how inspirational. let's talk about quickly --
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maybe not quickly -- your video, the rendition of "space oddity." your sun tweaked the lyrics for you. were you immediately on board with this? or did you -- >> no. >> were you talked into it? >> well, tell me, someone asked you to sing "space oddity" while you're up there commanding a space station -- >> i don't know. >> -- yeah, he had to talk me into it. you know, originally, the astronaut dies at the end of the song. he rewrote the lyrics. i liked how my voice sounded on top. i got them to help me with the -- and it really came out bigger and better than i thought it would. and the video, i think, really, fredricka, the video links sort of fantasy and art with reality of what the space station actually is, and that -- that's why 18, 19 million people found it interesting, i think, because it actually, it shows that the space station is more than just a laboratory, but kind of a stage for interesting human culture. >> among those who found it
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fascinating, i understand, david bowie. did you hear about his response? >> i heard recently that he said it was, like, you know, the best rendition of the song ever, which is pretty high praise. >> wow! that's pretty high praise. >> it is. >> well, that's very appropriate for somebody who is, you know, out of this world rkt such as yourself. commander chris hadfield, thank you so much. appreciate it. and thank you for sharing, i guess, the exploration, the fascination of space, and at the same time, you know, bringing that entertainment value. because you've inspired clearly a whole lot of people now. appreciate your time. >> thanks very much. it was nice writing the book, i appreciate it. >> all right. welcome to the "newsroom," the second hour of this afternoon. we have much more straight ahead. new nfth is surfacing about suspected paul ciancia.
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sources telling cnn they found anti-government notes on him after one tsa officer was killed and two others wounded. and hundreds of thousands of people are partying in the streets of boston. they are celebrating the red sox winning of the world championship title. and honoring the city's resilience six months after the boston marathon bombing. we'll take you live there coming up. a disturbing picture coming together of the man who allegedly burst into the los angeles airport shooting several tsa officers and killing one. the fbi says he has paul anthony ciancia, and he was carrying materials including an anti-tsa rant, and a reference to a new world order. according to a federal law enforcement official. when shots were fired, people in
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terminal 3 scattered, running for their lives yesterday. cell phone video obtained by tmz shows the chaos as officers yelled at people to get down. >> on the floor! on the floor now! on the floor! [ shouts ] >> no, don't run! >> teo, teo, teo! >> on the floor! >> no! >> come on, guys. >> that was the scene of a stunning and terrifying situation. police shot the suspect several times in the chest, according to an intelligence source. our affiliate kcal and kcbs got the exclusive video, and it reportedly shows the suspect handcuffed to a stretcher. cnn cannot independently confirm who that person is, however. investigators say the suspected shooter lived in los angeles, but was from new jersey.
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chris lawrence is in pennsville, new jersey, where the suspect's family lives. chris, what are family members, or even neighbors, saying about him? >> reporter: well, that's the thing, fred. when you go looking for people who may have known him well, you come up empty. outside of his family, we've spoken with neighbor, we've spoken with young people who knew the family. no one really seems to have a very close relationship with him. and think about it. i mean, he lived here, he grew up here his whole life. he just left and moved out west about a year and a half ago. and when i asked one young man, you know, who are his close friends, who are the people he keeps in contact with, he couldn't come up with really any name. the young man i spoke to, would see him at orthodontist appointments, but had not even him in about two years since he left for the west coast. and is still really in shock at what happened.
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>> i mean, i haven't had any personal reactions with him. but from what i've seen and heard, he was just a normal person. an every day guy. you know, friendly. did this really happen? did they get the wrong guy? because if they told me that they got the wrong guy, it would make a lot more sense to me. >> hmm. >> reporter: you probably find that same sentiment in the house behind me where his family has been with police for the last two days now. the family has told police they had no indication that anything was wrong. they say they did not know that he owned a rifle. they say he had no history of mental illness, that he was back here for a wedding just this summer. everything seemed fine. but obviously, something went very wrong out there in los angeles to perhaps trigger this outburst. fred? >> all right, thank you so much, chris lawrence for that update. so let's now go back out to los angeles where people are mourning the death of tsa
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officer jirardo hernandez. they are wearing black bands in his onner and will wear them until he's laid to rest. dan, what can you tell us about everything taking place there? >> reporter: yeah, hi, fredricka. terminal 3 still closed. we don't know when it will reopen. as you can imagine, there's a lot of passengers who want to go into the terminal and retrieve their belongings. when this happened, they basically hit the exits and just left everything there. at this point, the fbi says it's still investigating and doesn't know when it's going to reopen terminal 3. in terms of the investigation, fredricka, we know that this is somebody -- the suspect who espoused anti-government views. he had some information on him, talking about the new world order, quote/unquote. but clearly, he had it out for tsa agents. but as bad as we saw things, it could have been a lot worse. listen to what the mayor had to say. >> that there was additional rounds of this gunman had.
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and the fact that these officers were able to neutralize the threat as they did, they were more than 100 more rounds that could have literally killed everybody in that terminal today were not for their actions. there could have been a lot more damage. >> reporter: fredricka, one thing that is important to note is that cnn has learned that airport police used to be stationed at tsa checkpoints, but that stopped happening earlier this year. they were there in the aftermath of 9/11. it's not exactly clear why they decided to roam, if you will. they had to be at least two minutes away, or they couldn't be more than two minutes away from a tsa checkpoint. but it adds a layer of complexity to this case, because if the officers were still at those check points, perhaps they could have engaged the suspect sooner. in other words, he may not have been able to breach the checkpoint and go into the area. >> and we understand a tsa administrator is headed to l.a.x., but as you point out,
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whether there be the absence of a police officer there, there have been many analysts who say that security checkpoint leaves people most vulnerable than any other place in the airport, because tsa agents are not armed, and i think a lot of people maybe forget about that, at that security checkpoint, that typically at most airports, there is no one who is armed in terms of security. >> reporter: that's exactly right. but for whatever reason, l.a.x. is one of these airports where you did have armed police officers here, as i said. you had it happen right after 9/11. and for all these years, you had armed police officers at the checkpoints, and then january/february of this year, i'm told, is when it stopped happening, and it's not clear why. >> dan simon, thank you so much. keep us posted as you learn more answers. appreciate it. so six months after that marathon bombing ripped boston apart, the city is now uniting
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today in shear jubilation. more than 1 million people have lined the streets to celebrate the red sox world series win. you've been watching the live images all morning long. you know, it's really not just about sports. it is about boston's strength. alexander field joining us live now along the parade route, where we're looking at live pictures, where it looks placid and calm, but now they're boisterous and excited. what's happening now? >> reporter: that's right. you can see some of the fans are still on boylston, but a lot of them have moved further up the parade route to have a chance to wave to the team members and see those duck boats pass by. the boats came up boylston, where we're standing now. the crowd erupted. 1 million people expected to line the parade route. it started at fenway park around 10:00. and it will end around 1:00 when the duck boats plunge into the charles riv. but the most moving part
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happened on boylston street at the finish line for the boston marathon. we'll all remember the twin blasts that happened not far from here back in april. well, today, the red sox world series champs decided to pay tribute to all of those who survived in the attacks and all those lost. johnnie gunz, the clubhouse leader, the guy who started the red sox beard trend, and he is the one who paid honor today. he got down, he put the world series trophy right on the finish line, and took off his cap in a moving salute. it was important to a lot of fans who came out here today. that was the moment they were hoping to see, the moment they were waiting to see, the city is, again, celebrating much more than baseball six months later they are celebrating a comeback. fred? >> wow, lots of symbolism, indeed. all right. alexander field, thank you so much. appreciate it. all right. the new york man called the subway vigilante after he shot four youths in 1984 is facing charges for allegedly selling marijuana to an undercover
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police. police say bernard goetz, remember him, he met a female undercover officer and union square park on friday and agreed to sell her marijuana. well, they say he picked up the drugs from his apartment and then was arrested after the $30 exchange. all right. flight delays and security concerns after a shooting at l.a.x. but how are passengers across the country dealing with the delays? nick valencia is live for us at hartsfield-jackson airport in atlanta checking on all of that. >> reporter: hey, fred, i'm outside atlanta's airport to tell you about how yesterday's incident at l.a.x. has caused ripple effects throughout the united states. i'll tell you what to expect. or more on car insurance. everybody knows that. well, did you know that when a tree falls in the forest and no one's around, it does make a sound? ohhh...ohhh...oh boy!
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shooting at l.a.x. yesterday. more than 1,500 flights were affected by the deadly shooting. nick valencia is live for us at the world's busiest airport in atlanta. nick, does it appear as though things are back to normal for everyone else, as flights were affected yesterday? >> reporter: this is the world's busiest airport, but it doesn't seem that way today. travel, we're told, by airport officials is lower than usual. we asked if these cancellations or limited passengers at the airport had anything to do with the incident at l.a.x. they said impact here, they don't expect it to be any further than it has been. they said there is more plainclothes officers, even if we can't see them. they say security has been beefed up. we talked to passengers all morning, all morning long through the early part of the afternoon, and we've gotten mixed reaction. some passengers, as you'll hear, are a little more nervous than others. >> you're traveling back home to dallas, and you got here early, why? >> we d we were afraid there
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might be a holdup from the incident in l.a. and so, we decided to come through, in case security was long. >> reporter: what have you seen? have you seen more security out here than normal? >> i saw your truck and a couple of k-9 trucks, so i did see some extra security, yes. >> reporter: i mentioned, it is slower than a normal day here on saturday. lines are very short. just did a tour inside the terminal, about 15 minutes to get through the security lines, tsa officials say it usually takes about 20 minutes. so it's going to go a lot faster than usual, and you can tell me behind the ticketing and check-in, not a lot of cars, though. there was certainly an impact yesterday. i did speak to an atlanta police officer who said that there was a brief crisis situation here as details emerge from what happened at l.a.x., but that is over now. and things are seemingly back to normal at atlanta's airport. fred? >> nick valencia, thank you so much. so questions are still surfacing about any signs that may have led up to the actions of the suspected l.a.x. shooter,
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paul ciancia. investigators say he had no history of mental illness, and cianc ciancia's family didn't even know he owned a gun. so what might have happened? former fbi agent tim clemente joining us now. of course, you know, good to see you, tim. >> thanks for having me, fredricka. >> so many pieces are being put together to figure out if there were any signs leading up to what happened, and if so, what should have been noticed, what should have been taken note? so as the fbi gets involved with this investigation, what are some of the things they'll be looking into? >> well, obviously, they'll be collecting all of the physical evidence and trying to build the federal case against ciancia. they'll be looking at his mental status. i mean, what his associations were. is this -- you know, is he part of an organization that may have led him to do this? it doesn't appear that way. it appears like he's a lone gunman, probably mission-oriented in nature, which means that he's on a task, and he believes that he's doing something to either rid society of some ill or correct some, you
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know, misdeed that was done to him. typically, these mass shooters are in the anyone range that he fits right in -- late teens into their 20s -- which is a period of time when a lot of personality disorders can exhibit themselves. and he may not have exhibited anything prior, but it doesn't mean that he doesn't have a mental illness that he's suffering from. >> hmm. and even our own chris lawrence talked to people who knew and know him, and they say that he -- his behavior seemed normal, he was at a wedding, he is seen social recently. the only thing that seemed to be alarming was in recent times -- and we don't know if that's days or weeks or months -- he did text a little brother some sort of disturbing message. we don't know what that message is publicly. but how might fbi members or federal law enforcement agents try to extrapolate that kind of information -- whether there were any kind of signs that someone else could have put together to prevent something
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like this from happening? >> well, i think we have to look at what are his associations? i mean, i don't know how close he is to the roommates he had there in los angeles. apparently, he is somewhat disconnected from his family, just by distance if nothing else. and i did read about that text that he sent to his brother, which may have had -- may have exhibited some suicide ideations in it, and he was distressed by society, culture, didn't like the los angeles area. maybe he had no outlet for this. maybe he had no one he could talk to, felt separated from his family. and if there was some kind of a mental disorder, it just caused him to further and further build up these injustices. you know, these are commonly referred to as "injustice collectors," somebody like james holmes in colorado, where he feels slighted in some way. his case, the tsa, going through the terminal, and asking, "are you tsa," and the individual that he passed, and if they said
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no, he moved on. these are the things that the fbi will dig into further and further and look at this guy's life and see, you know, on turn did, unturn every piece of evidence that can lead to -- not necessarily a motive, because the motive may be tsa agent took his nail clippers six months ago, so we're not looking for a typical motive where somebody assaulted my wife and i'm going to gh after this in vengeance. this is a man that probably has a personality disorder that is exhibiting itself now in this mass shooting. >> of course, tim clemente, all of the information important, because it certainly hurts -- helps investigators in averting the next potential -- >> exactly. >> -- incident, or try to further piece together what took place. we do understand that he is still in custody. we don't know if he is in a physical place where he can actually talk or get any information -- give any information to investigators, because we know he is still being hospitalized. but, tim clemente, thank you very much for your insight on this information. appreciate it. >> you're welcome. let's talk about
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right now, the city of boston is celebrating a victory that transcends sports. a more than million people have been lining the streets to not only revel in the red sox's world series win, but they're also celebrating the city's strength in the wake of the marathon bombings. alexander field -- alexandra field has more on the victories on and off the field. [ cheers ] >> reporter: national champions. the boston red sox and national treasures. the marathon bombing survivors. after more than six months, they are celebrating victories together. >> it felt like, you know, we were a city that had such a
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tranldy happen -- tragedy happen, and we were able to kind of be resilient and heal over the course of the baseball season coincidentally. >> reporter: back in april, the sox were coming off a last-place finish in their division last year, and the city of boston had just taken a devastating hit. [ explosion ] after a pair of explosions near the marathon finish line, heather abbott lost part of her leg. she had just left the game at fenway, a planned return would help her heal. >> i practice in physical therapy. >> reporter: while she was still using a wheelchair to get around, abbott accepted an ocher to go back to the ballpark. >> when i threw out the first pitch, and i had just left the hospital, you know, that was really a big deal for me. >> reporter: and you can now say you pitched for the world series champs. >> i guess i did. [ laughter ] >> reporter: over and over again, the team invited abbott and other survivors home.
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most memorably a tropical storm isabel alongside james taylor along the second world series game. >> it felt like they were very supportive of us, and i think, you know, at least i felt supportive of them in return. >> reporter: abbott had come a long way during the baseball season with her new prosthetic leg, she could now walk onto the field. as for the sox? after 93 losses last year, they were now playing for the world series championship. >> you know, it kind of felt like we were going -- moving along now with the red sox, going along the way, as they were continuing to improve their season as well, and the whole boston strong, you know, mantra kind of stuck. >> reporter: in six games, boston's team proved its strength, winning the series. >> the boston -- the marathon, you know, all of that stuff, it's bigger than us. >> reporter: in six months, abbott showed the world how strong she is. >> to know that, you know, only six months have gone by, and i'm pretty much totally independent
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and right now -- >> on the floor! on the floor! >> -- on the other side of the coast, hundreds of thousands of people showing that they are boston strong. fans are packing the parade route, celebrating the red sox win of the world championship title, and honoring the victims and survivors of the boston marathon bombing. we'll bring you all of the latest developments throughout the morning. and afternoon. but first, major developments this week for the family of kendrick johnson. he's that georgia teen found dead inside a rolled-up gym mat at his high school gym in valdosta. federal authorities are now investigating the circumstances surrounding his death. cnn's victor blackwell and his producer, devin sayers, have been on top of the story for more than six months now. here is the latest look of the developments in the case. >> reporter: after months of rallies and protests, an announcement that the family of
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kendrick johnson hopes will lead to what they consider to be justice. >> at this time, however, i am of the opinion that a sufficient basis exists for my office to conduct a formal review of the facts and investigations surrounding the death of kendrick johnson. >> reporter: u.s. attorney michael moore, supported by the fbi, will soon head to valdosta, georgia, to conduct a federal investigation into the death of 17-year-old kendrick johnson. >> i will follow the facts wherever -- wherever they lead. my objective is to discover the truth. >> hallelujah! thank you, jesus! >> reporter: kendrick's grandmother watched the announcement on a portable tv on the street corner where the family continues its eighth-month sit-in, demanding answers. >> i'm so happy, and i know we trust in the lord and we just haven't been down here rallying for 32 weeks for nothin'. >> reporter: the johnson family never believed the local sheriff's explanation that kendrick suffocated after squeezing his 19-inch shoulders
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into the 14.50 center of a rolled gym mat to reach for a shoe in the middle of a school day. >> his parents have always maintained that their son was killed, and the only question we want to know is why they covering up for whoever killed their son. >> i believe indeed that he was murdered. >> do you have any idea who may have murdered him? >> no, i don't. that's what we wanted to get down to the truth. >> reporter: cnn has been reporting on this case for months, uncovering details of the sheriff's investigation, like why these shoes found yards from kendrick's body were not collected as evidence, and how this blood stain got on the wall in the gym, and why investigators never found whose blood it was. >> and you don't believe there was a thorough investigation by local authorities, mr. johnson? >> no, i don't. >> reporter: in a statement to cnn, the attorney for the lownds county sheriff's office writes,
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"while the sheriff has every confidence that all leads were examined and exhausted, he welcomes the u.s. attorney's further review of the case." on wednesday, a judge ordered the sheriff's office to hand over its full investigative file, including never-before-seen surveillance video from inside the gym where kendrick died. >> just got to continue to fight on, till justice is done for k.j. >> so victor blackvilwell joini us now. the federal investigators said they would gather all evidence trying to get to the truth, and of some of the evidence you were able to display, virtue of videotape and testimony, you have blood on the wall. but then, his cause of death was suffocation. so what has been the explanation of the blood, the origin of the blood, if his body showed no blood? >> the sheriff's office believes the blood has nothing to do with their case. they say it appears to be old blood. this is a gym. and students injure themselves.
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but we looked at this case file, and the longest stream of blood on this wall is 17 inches. i mean, these impacts -- there's chipped paint on this wall. six impacts that were counted here. so the idea that this is something that would have been there for sometime, the family just doesn't believe. >> hmm. and the investigation is not just about what happened here with kendrick johnson. >> no. >> but the federal investigation also entails investigating the authorities, the local authorities, that investigated the case? >> yeah, they're going to go back in and review their case file. now, the u.s. attorney was clear to say that he's not going into this prejudiced of anyone else's investigation, but he does want to review all of their information and parallel that, and the fbi will be doing their own investigation and talking to everyone and looking as much evidence as is still available. >> the body will be exhumed again in. >> it's possible. the fbi lab might want their own autopsy, because the state did one, the independent pathologist did one, and maybe they want to look at the body that they find
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that the others haven't. >> victor blackwell, thank you so much. we'll talk about this with our own legal guys, avery freeman, civil rights attorney, law professor in cleveland, and richard herman, new york attorney, joining us from las vegas. good to see you, gentlemen. wow, it's an extraordinary case. i know you agree on that. georgia authorities at one time concluding that no foul play, case closed, and then, now, a federal investigation. so, richard, what's the impetus in your view for this new investigation, new evidence, evidence collected, not treated properly? what's your view? >> you know, fred, the perseverance of the family to continue to pressure the authorities to look into this, it's a hard pill to swallow when they say your teenage son is found rolled up in a mat dead. a seemingly healthy young man. you look into this investigat n investigation, and there are so many issues of contaminated crime scene, the fact that when the second autopsy was done, there were no organs in his body, his fingernails were gone. seemingly to look for dna.
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there's a lot of problems with this case, fred. it will take an overwhelming set of facts and evidence to overturn the initial finding of the accidental death. unless they find a cover-up there, the feds have no jurisdiction. they have no -- >> why is that in your view, avery? >> i don't agree with that. >> -- problems with the case leading up to what happened, the crime, you know, if there was indeed a crime. >> right. >> in and after itself, because you have the coroner's report that said suffocation, he did this to himself. and now you have the investigation of, you know, foul play. and then you've got the treatment of the body, the treatment of the evidence after the fact. so, avery, where does the federal investigation begin? >> well, the federal investigation is different than the local investigation. i have to say, when you have 1,900 hours of videotape before the incident, and you close an investigation in 24 hours,
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fredricka, that suggests a pretty pretzelized prime -- subprime investigation. i'm thrilled the department of justice is involved there. let me tell you something, even if the department of justice fails to proceed with this, they're going to do the investigation, the fbi will do that. that's still going to force local authorities to look into this more deeply. i don't believe for one second that kendrick johnson died of suffocation in an upright gym mat. i mean, that's just -- it doesn't make any sense. so the good news is, number one, you had a steadfast family. number two, you had courageous journalists that continued to press it, and it crescendos to the press conference by the department of justice this week. and i think you're going to find evidence, and i think this thing is going to be busted wide open. >> wow. it is a fascinating case. sadly it has come to this, too. >> oh, yeah. >> your heart does break, richard, as you said at the top, for the family. unimaginable loss. >> absolutely. >> richard, avery, we'll see you again. we'll talk about this other case, new york police apparently
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a federal appeals court has block add lower court ruling that said the policy is unconstitutional. critics say the stop-and-frisk law amounts to racial profiling. city officials disagree, and insist the practice has cut crime. as deborah fehric reports, it is one issue city residents are weighing as they prepare to vote in tuesday's mayoral election. >> reporter: new york city today is a far, far different place than it was 30 years ago. this is times square now. this is times square back in the '80s and '09s when crime was rampant, and racial tensions were high. >> bill deblazio voted to take 5,000 cops off our streets. >> reporter: in a campaign ad, the opponent claims the days could return. >> i believe his approach to public safety is reckless. >> reporter: he says on the issue of public safety, civil rights are at stake, and that it's time to end the city's more aggressive policing strategies like stop-and-frisk.
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>> we can be safer, in fact, if we take the foundation, the core of what we have, and build upon it, a better working relationship between the police and community. >> reporter: lotta is backed by his former tough on crime boss rudy giuliani, who along with michael bloombergs, are the mayors credited with reducing crime, cleaning up the city, and making new york a good place to live. and yet, he remains behind deblazio, as the anti-bloomberg. >> after 12 years of mayor bloomberg, it's time for a real change. >> reporter: he has promised to close the money gap between new york city's rich and new york city's poor. new york has a poverty rate of about 21%. a disparity de blasio calls a ta tale of two cities. lotta who served as the budget director, says his desire to
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raise taxes on wealthier new yorkers to fund his universal pre-k programs for the poor underscores de blasio's lack of financial experience. >> new york city is the highest tax base in america. >> we know early childhood education is the difference maker. we know it is the most effective investment we make in education. >> reporter: he ran hillary clinton's first senate campaign and served most recently as the city's public advocate. you've had a small staff. what qualifies you to run a $70 billion budget? >> i've been in public life in this city almost 25 years now. >> reporter: lotta, the son of a police officer, is the first in his family to go to college and is a self-made millionaire. >> it's the first time i ever run for elected office. >> reporter: is it daunting? >> it's a challenge. >> reporter: you're ahead in the polls. is this a slam dunk in. >> nothing is a slam dunk. you have to run scared. >> reporter: both men trying to embrace the positive legacies of their predecessors, while trying hard to set themselves apart.
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deborah fehrick, cnn, new york. >> let's bring back the legal guys to weigh in on the stop-and-frisk policy. avery and richard. okay, so, gentlemen, so right now, the stop-and-frisk policy is still legal to use in new york, even though a federal judge ruled it unconstitutional, a reminder to people, an appeals panel said they had a problem with the judge right now, not the law. so, avery, is this the end of the challenge of the law? >> no. the court of appeals basically said the trial judge engaged in an appearance of impartial -- or partiali partiality, and it's going to a different federal judge. i think the order remains in me effect. in fact, the court of appeals has not resolved the question. 200,000 stop-and-risks without any reasonable suspicion. that ruling stands, and my prediction is that the three-judge panel ultimately,
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fredricka, will affirm that. the only thing that's on hold is a new judge and the remedy. stop-and-risk, as it's been found, is unconstitutional. >> mm. so, richard, this is your backyard. you know, lots of criticism of the policy. how does the judge's removal of this -- from this case help bolster perhaps the use of the law? >> well, it's astounding that they removed the judge from the case. that's for starters, fred. a lot of issues here. if the democrat wins for mayor, the appeal will go down the tubes, they will dismiss the appeal, and her ruling will stand. >> that's right. >> in any event, fred, 685,000 stop-and-risks in 2011. basically 10% of those leading to arrests and convictions. fred, about 95% are done against black and hispanics in new york. now, despite the lowest ratings in new york for crime -- >> that's right. >> -- murders and crime during that year, stop-and-risk was viable, approved by the supreme court. and here, there are many issues,
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and avery mentioned the one big one, the court said the judge basically directed certain attorneys to file the case so it would come before her, because she's been outspoken on this issue and felt that the law was disproportionately applied to blacks and hispanics, made her ruling. i don't know how it's going to pan out. i think the election's going to determine it. it was a brave ruling from her. and i have to tell you, fred, she is a wonderful, very, very bright judge. i've been before her many times. so it's just astounding that they would make this type of finding with -- >> which suggests we agree it will be affirmed. we agree that it will be affirmed. it's unconstitutional. >> okay. we'll talk again about this, because we know the case is not over. just totally unrelated, also, richard, unrelated to this case, but topical, nonetheless, you were caught up in the mayhem at l.a.x. at the time of the shooting in terminal 3. where exactly were you yesterday, and what did you experience? and we're glad you ultimately
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made it to las vegas. what happened for you? >> glad he's okay. >> it was a planned day. fly in in the morning, take the meetings, and fly back at 3:00. we land at 9:20, terminal 3, "the" terminal, get out, picked up, as we're leaving the airport, floods of police cars are now coming to the airport. i couldn't believe it. i said, this is los angeles? i thought i was back in new york. >> wow. >> anyway, we live, we get out, and the texts start come on my shooting, cna, shooting terminal 3, and we just came in. we just landed. we just missed it by ten minutes. we kept calling the airline. what's up? what's up? of course, the airlines, oh, the early flights are cancelled, but we'll be on in the afternoon. that was not the case. we ended up having to rent a car, drive back 5 1/2 hours, rush hour on friday, had to get back last night for -- >> hey, you made it. you made it. >> we made it. >> a close brush for you, but we are glad that you -- you made it and everything is okay. of course, our hearts still go out to the family members --
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>> yes. >> -- of the tsa worker who did lose his life in that. >> that's right. yes. >> that's right. >> good to see you, richard and avery. >> make some room next week, fred. >> what's that? >> make some room next week. >> that's right. you are coming to the house. right here. look forward to that. can't wait to see you guys. thank you so much. the legal guys here every saturday here on the air. but this time, they'll be right here in the atlanta studio next weekend, always tackling the most intriguing legal questions of the day, night, week, you name it. we'll be right back. good to see you guys. a confident retirement. those dreams, there's just no way we're going to let them die. ♪ like they helped millions of others. by listening. planning. working one on one. that's what ameriprise financial does. that's what they can do with you. that's how ameriprise puts more within reach. ♪
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toronto's mayor says he will not resign. even though police claim they have found a videotape reportedly showing rob ford smoking a crack pipe earlier this year.
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two news agencies said they saw footage of him doing drugs. ivan watson has more. ivan? >> reporter: fredricka, toronto mayor rob ford featuring prominently in a huge, more than 400-page report published by toronto police this week after their investigation into drug-related gang activity. and it's important both for what it says and doesn't say about mayor ford. for example, in the section investigating allegations he was caught on camera smoking crack, detectives have learned the following -- and then, the report shows ten pages blacked out of completely redacted information that we're not allowed to see. now, in a press conference, after the publication of the report, toronto's police chief implied that the crack-smoking video is very real. >> we have recovered a digital video file. which is consistent with that which had previously been described in various media reports. >> reporter: fredricka, parts that have not been redacted show the mayor behaving very
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erratically. he's photographed in front of what police describe as a crack house, with three men alleged to be drug gang members, two of whom were later shot last march, and one of them died in that shooting incident. mayor ford was also repeatedly seen with friend and sometimes driver alexander liesy, arrested on drug and extortion charges. in surveillance video, he is shown meeting liesy, and getting out of the car and urine ating near a school. the evidence police later recovered the drugs left. and some supporters who are often referred to as the ford-nation, they're still standing by their man. >> rob ford's a good man, a great politician. >> i would take rob ford over anybody else i can think of. >> reporter: the mayor isn't formally being charged with any crimes, yet.
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