tv Erin Burnett Out Front CNN November 13, 2013 4:00pm-5:01pm PST
improve obama care? right now, 41% of you say yes. 59% say no. >> the debate continues online at cnn.com/crossfire as well as facebook and twitter. >> join us tomorrow for another edition of "crossfire." erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. next, obama care's numbers finally released. >> we're going to give you the best numbers we can. >> but they don't add up to nearly enough for the white house. >> then families rimmed apart in the philippines. >> i love my daughter. i told her during the evacuation, go, go! but my daughter said no, mama, i can't leave you. >> the best defense is a good offense. >> have you ever smoked marijuana? it is a question that's simple. a yes or a no.
have you smoked marijuana? >> let's go "outfront." >> good evening. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" the numbers for obama care are in and they're a bit scary. 106,185 people enrolled in obama care during its first month. only 25% of them through health care.gov. the overall number that is needed for obama care to work is 7 million by the edge of march. dana bash is in washington. i guess the facts are the facts. these numbers are pretty terrible. >> they are and there's no way to sugar coat it. not even the president's close et al.ize on capitol hill are trying to do that. it is not just a political blow. it can undermine the viability of this new law. as you mentioned, for obama care to work, they need many more people enrolled. five times as much as last month.
it is a major reason that these enrollment problems are causing these headaches. particularly because it is the webb that is causing the number to be so low and that was the sub of a highly partisan hearing on capitol hill today. >> a month and a half after its troubled launch, the health care website is still running at barely half its intended capacity. that from the white house's lead tech official. >> we have much work still to do. we're making progress at a growing rate. >> he was forced to testify by subpoena said he could not guarantee the website will be fully functional by the end of this month. the white house goal. the white house was eager to illustrate problems persist. >> i went on may ipad, health care.gov and i hit this button that says create account and it doesn't go anywhere. it just changes colors and does nothing. >> sir, respectfully i'm just a technology guy -- >> don't -- don't short
yourself. >> you're the smartest one in the room. >> that's not true. >> trust me i've been in this room for a while. it is true. >> this was a monumental mistake to go live and effectively explode on the launch pad. nobody in this room, nobody in this country believes republicans want to fix the website. >> then there's this. >> the american people do not want to see a kangaroo court here. >> no witness here today has been cut off. every witness has been allowed to complete their entire, their entire answer. >> but outside this polarized hearing, frustration is bipartisan. democrat jose serrano is a loyal obama supporter. >> we've got brains in this country. we've got people, kids in college dorms that can invent yahoo. they couldn't have helped with
this? >> he was coming out of what i was told was a contentious closed door hearing with house democrats and administration officials that mostly focused on a different obama care problem. that is people getting drop from their plans that they like. democrats i spoke to say the house, that the white house come one a way for american to keep their plans if they like them as the president promised. otherwise many democrats will have to vote for a republican version of a bill to do just that on friday. i am told tonight that the white house is scrambling to come up with a fix and they might have some idea they can unveil to congressional democrats as soon as tomorrow. >> obviously that would be significant. thank you very much. the chair of the democratic national committee. good to have you with us. i want to start with the number on the enrollment. we found out late today, 20% of the nearly 500,000 the administration enrollees
actually signed up for the real plans. i'm not talking about medicare, medicaid. can you recover from this? >> oh, of course we can. obviously the website issues are challenging and they are on track to be mostly resolve so there will be relatively few issues getting on to the website. if you look at the progress from october 1 to now, folks were getting about a 6% error rate on the, as they proceeded through the site at the very beginning of october. now we're down to less than 1%. so there is more and more progress every day. and look, i think this is great news that half a million people have been able to sign up for health insurance coverage. most of whom have not had coverage before or were really significantly underinsured. when you're someone like carolyn newman, a breast cancer survivor in my community in south florida
who literally saved $7,000 a year when she was on the blue cross blue shield plan that she had before the affordable care act and then got a notice that that plan is ending and the coverage that she's going to be able to get even before she shops on the exchange, is $7,000 less annually. that is a big deal for someone who faced insurance companies dropping her and denying her coverage and could only get insurance coverage from that one plan. >> those stories, that's what people want to hear more of. >> that's right. and we'll hear more and more. >> these numbers that we have, 106,000. it would seem the only accurate number is the number who have fully paid ask are committed. do you know what that number is? it is important to note it is still cheaper to pay the penalty than it is to sign up for a lot of these plans. that could be a real mathematical problem. >> the fact that half a million
people have been able to sign up for coverage. another nearly 1 million people have been able to register on the site and actually can begin comparing coverage availability and looking at what plan they're ultimately going to select. that is a significant thing. >> i'm a breast cancer survivor. i can tell you one of the first things i thought about when i got my diagnosis was i have to get right to a doctor. when i shared my own story, i had women come up to me who didn't have enough insurance coverage who said, debby, i had to choose between the chemo or the radiation because i couldn't afford the co-pay or the deduct dibble on both. now the affordable care act gets rid of the co-pays and deductibles on mammograms and colonoscopies and other care. this is critical. spare me if i notice some irony in my republican colleagues being the ones that shut the
government down over whether or not people could get quality affordable health care and deny them that. then today they're concerned that people's inability to sign up. give me a break. >> i want to ask you about that. when we talk about affordable, people want to keep the plans they have, they are cheaper than the ones being offered. if i could just clarify with you, the half a million number. you've used it twice. could you clarify for me what that is in. >> 106,000 people have been able to sign up for private market health insurance. and then about 392,000 have been able to sign up or get access to eligibility for medicaid and the children's health insurance. >> so for existing programs. >> no. the medicaid expansion. so they've had an opportunity where they weren't able to get that coverage before and now they can. >> let me ask but the issue you brought up about affordability. a lot of the people angry right now on a bipartisan basis, i'm not talking about citizens on
capitol hill, now they can no longer keep them. bill clinton as you are well aware has joined those saying the law kneads to be chained to allow people to keep their current plans if they like them. and jay carney responded to that today. here's what he said, congresswoman. >> the president has instructed his team to come up with options for him to review. you can expect a decision from him and an announcement sooner rather than later. >> you heard dana bash say that might come as soon as tomorrow. are we going to get an answer on this issue in america, you can keep your plan. >> you absolutely will. president obama is committed to making sure the people who were told throughout that democrats in congress and president obama said if you like your plan, you would be able to keep it. they're working and will have, i believe, a fix that will address that. you mentioned president clinton. what president clinton said in that interview is that he thinks we need to continue to move
forward and work together on fully implementing the affordable care act. and what we have to do is make sure, let's not make presumptions. you indicated that folks are finding that their plans are more expensive. that simply is not the case. >> for some people, those who are complaining it is. people complaining. the overwhelming majority of people who have their plans that aren't going to be continued are going to have better coverage for less money. and as the website continues to have the improvements and kinks ironed out of it, they will go on and they can go on now and comparison shop. when they do that, they'll likely get more affordable coverage with better benefits. >> we shall see and we'll be watching and waiting to see. >> let's work together so we can get that done. >> thank you very much, congressman debbie wasserman schultz. still to come, a failure by the tsa shows there's little evidence the tsa can spot terrorists. plus war on walmart. unhappy workers walk off the job
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our second story "outfront" is the tsa's terror failure. a report slamming the agency's nearly billion-dollar taxpayer program to pick out potential terrorists based on their behavior. according to the report there is basically no evidence to suggest that programs works. rene marsh is "outfront." she's been reporting on this. what have you learned? >> reporter: this report released today calls the tsa program one big waste of money on the taxpayers' dime. how much tax money? we're talking about $900 million roughly. spent on a program the government says there is no scientific proof it actually works. we're talking about behavior detection officers. if you've been to an airport, you may have seen them. there are about 3,000 of them at airports across the country. and like other tsa officers, they are in uniform. here's how it works them spend less than 30 seconds summing people up. there is a check list of behaviors that they're looking for that indicate stress, fear or deception. if you exhibit enough of those
indicators, you are sent to a secondary screening for a patdown or possibly on to police. this report says decades of scientific research shows the ability for a trained person to detect deception is the same as or only slightly better than chance. >> which is pretty shocking. so we've got nearly a billion dollars spent on that. what's the tsa's rebuild? >> the tsa is defending their program. they say it is substantially better at i.d.'ing a high risk passenger by going about it this way rather than randomly screening people. at this point they say there are many other law enforcement agencies across the country that use the same techniques. we should point out the head of the tsa will have a chance to defend program tomorrow. he will be a capitol hill and you can bet lawmakers will be asking him about this program. now our third story, waging a war against walmart. as no doubt you're aware, if you
live in the united states, across america, there has been growing discould not ten and a movement against the world's largest retailer over wages. in chicago today, unhappy workers from three walmarts walked off the job demanding a better day's pay. here's the real question. a lot of people have a passionate view about this and think they know all the facts. do the claims that walmart should pay more add up? this comes as the holiday shopping has formally already started for walmart and they have a lot of employees angry that they will be open on thanksgiving day. >> they've been open for thanksgiving for a number of thanksgivings now and walmart is saying they'll give them extra pay, big discounts on a future purchase and a turkey dinner while they're at work. that is clearly not going to quiet the critics. >> there is one line only. >> reporter: as millions of shoppers push into walmart this holiday season for bargains, they're expected to shove the
retail giants' $17 billion in annual profits even higher. and that is not sitting well with tiffany who is married with two kids. >> it is very, how should i say it? disgusting. a lot of times we don't make the money. >> reporter: she said she's been at walmart for two years working 19 to 40 hours a week and made just $12,000 last year. >> i feel walmart should pay us more than enough to support our families. more like $25,000 a year. >> are you able to get by on the money you make from walmart? >> not at all. >> she is part of the protest group our walmart. an association of disgruntled employees, along with others they've tried to pressure walmart in listing members of congress, city councils, anyone they can arguing the super
retailer is essentially exploiting the hunger for jobs. walmart, however, has pushed back hard. the president and ceo bill simon. >> our pay is in the top half of what retail offers. what our industry offers. >> reporter: walmart u.s. cites a litany. they have 1.3 million employees with more than half full time. the average pay is $12.83 an hour. more than $5 above minimum wage and more than the average rate for all hourly salespeople in america. >> our management team, our assistant managers start around $55,000 a year. our store managers start around $100,000 a area. the math clearly works for more than 300,000 walmart employees. who have been with the company for more than ten sear. but not for tiffany and others on the lower edge of the walmart pay scale. >> why don't you go work for someone else? >> i've been working for other joks. it is hard to come by.
>> reporter: and that seem to be one of the chief complaints from some of these people who are upset with walmart. then even in walmart is understanding, what they're saying is walmart is simply so powerful in the marketplace that whatever it does creates a de facto base level of employment for a whole community and it affects other businesses too. walmart says we're a private business. we're sensitive to the needs of the employees and things going on in the economy but we can't fix everything. this is a private business out there to make profit. a fascinating debate about the power of private business in a public setting. >> a fascinating debate. you say they pay more than everyone else. are they the ones bringing down the overall average to begin with? >> and the low prices make a big difference to a lot of people out there. >> thank you. we want your point of view. we have the facts laid out here.
what do you think? still to come, desperate for relief. eight people died in the philippines today stampeding for food. who did shoot jfk? almost 50 years later, people are still obsessed over that question. we sift through conspiracy theories and doubts. what you wear to bed is your business. so, if you're sleeping in your contact lenses, ask about the air optix® contacts so breathable they're approved for up to 30 nights of continuous wear. serious eye problems may occur. ask your doctor and visit airoptix.com for safety information and a free one-month trial.
>> reporter: 50 years later, people still come every day. point to the sixth floor window, stand on the grassy knoll imagining what that day was like. president john f. kennedy and first lady jacqueline kennedy driving by, smiling. they look down from the school book depository building, imagining what lee harvey oswald saw the moment gun fire exploded, the piercing echos through the plaza. >> the flash apparently official, president kennedy died at 1:00 p.m. central standard time. >> does it amaze me that people come to the plaza 24/7 scratching their heads and pointing? not at all. the kennedy assassination story is modern folklore now. people just aren't satisfied with the official story that one man did all that damage. not only to a person but to a country and to the world. >> reporter: the official story, of course, is that lee harvey oswald acted alone.
>> could every survived this first wound? >> reporter: ronald jones was one of the emergency room doctors who tried to save president kennedy and vividly remembers the day oikt moments in the packed operating room of the hospital. >> we knew we were working on the president. we were anxious. we were excited, we were doing what we would do in the care of a normal trauma patient and yet here was the president of the united states. nobody knew he was dead. >> reporter: dr. jones said the first thing he noticed was a wound on the president's neck. >> initial impression was that this was an entrance wound and this is an exit wound up here. we had no information as to how he was shot, with what he was shot, who shot him. we had no information whatsoever. we had not seen the film. >> later on the warren commission report would determine that neck wound was where the so-called magic bullet exited kennedy's body before striking texas governor john conley. >> this could have been an entrance wound or an exit wound.
i don't know if anything will ever come up. it has been 50 years and nothing has surfaced yet that would indicate there was a second shooter. certainly that possibility exists, but right now i would accept the warren commission report. >> it is a fairy tail. it didn't happen. no bullet went through both men. >> reporter: to conspiracy theorists like robert, it is one of the many problems with the official story. >> the x in the middle of the road? you put that down there? >> i put that down there 19 years ago. >> reporter: ron grew up in new york and moved to dallas almost 20 years ago, proving the kennedy assassination conspiracy is his life's mission. you can feigned him on the grassy knoll every weekend, arguing his case. >> do people come out here and say, you're just crazy. >> nobody says that. nobody. i believe there is an
amalgamation between the mob and an element within the cia. >> reporter: so the cia and the mob working together is the theory that somehow -- >> most people that really know the case are somewhere in that ballpark. >> reporter: that is the legacy that still hang over the plaza. one of the most tragic events. 20th century. still shrouded for many in mystery. cnn, dallas. don't miss the cnn special. the assassination of president kennedy tomorrow night at 9:00 eastern and pacific right here on cnn. still to come, desperate for relief in the philippines. eight people were killed in the stampede. they were trying to get food. survival there is on the line. we'll go to the scene. plus, breaking news, a secret meeting with the benghazi attack. we actually know what was said behind closed doors tonight. a big revelation. that's next. and would you pay $100,000
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ratchet up sanctions against iran. >> it is pretty obvious that what the administration was promoting is something the israelis think is a bad deal for them. i think it is a bad deal as well. i would be surprised if we do not have a debate on enhanced iran sanctions on the defense authorization bill. >> discussions on that bill are expected to take place next week which is just as talks with iran are scheduled to resume. and our fifth story, the desperate stampede for food. eight people were kill in the philippines today when a wall collapsed because mob rushed into aware house filled with rice. it gives you a sense of the horrific desperation that people are feeling there right now. police stood by as people stormed the building, literally climbing over each other. in a desperate, desperate play to get fad. five days after super typhoon haiyan, the rapidly deteriorating conditions are leading to an utter state of chaos. aid is just starting to arrive
but aid has been way too slow. the latest death toll is 2,357 with nearly 4,000 injured. the mayor of tacloban is urging residents to leave. the problem is it is almost impossible to go anywhere else. nick is there tonight this morning for you. and 600,000 people homeless. no place to go. how is the security situation when we hear about stampedes of people just to get rice? >> certainly i think people are wrapped up in the fear of lawlessness here in tacloban. in the city yesterday i heard stories, fears of sexual assaults. attacks even with children in some ways. no evidence to back that up that we saw. but that's consuming people, i think a sense of father of what criminals may be up to and even militia groups in this particular part of the world. we encountered some of those fears ourselves when we venl urd out from the city of tacloban to
get an idea of the level of devastation. >> reporter: we drove south away from the he said central to answer the question, how far had the destruction spread? it took about 40 kilometers before life breathed easier. but then the storm left other dangers. police warned us of bandits ahead. >> the rebels. why are they doing this? >> maybe they're looking for food. >> we turned back toward the heart of the chaos. >> the storm, signs of the devastation is growing. psych the telephone poles at an angle. a sign of the sheer ferocity. the smallest are hungry and sick
and where the storm was so fantastical in its power it came straight from hollywood's apock limits. >> it is like the movie 2012. >> super. super scared. >> the bassics have struggled. >> trees scattered lake match sticks as you approach the town. it is two church spires standing definely, although 800 people died here in this town of 60,000. some hear where water surged. the winds tearing the back off the house and from the relatives across the river. >> from where it was flooded. so they're missing and three grandchildren including her. >> death has been more dig faye
identified here than streets of neighboring tacloban even though life itself remains a shell of what it was. there are now calls to loved ones. medicine, even bureaucracy. >> most of them died out of the waters. we have survived this far so i think we can rebuild it. >> the job of simply cleaning up so mammoth, healing seems a distant idea. now what we've seen there in that trip was how in many ways, we believe this city, the impact of the storm left some devastation but an organization effort is getting back to normal. that makes the failure of the government to responsible here in the main city just so remarkable. we went through the town twice in the morning and the afternoon. the same bodies we had seen earlier still lying in the street. that smell of death, putrid flesh really hard for people to stomach here if they're even
staying in the city itself. an obvious health hazard. the question now really focusing on the government relief effort. can they return this enormous city of 225,000 into a place people can live? or the scene you're seeing behind me. a steady flow of people with suitcases trying to get on any plane that will take them out of hear. is that going to continue? is that really heralding what's going on. >> thank you so much for you are why rt r your reporting. >> it's been more than a year since the attack on benghazi and lawmakers say they're still waiting for the truth. now they're questioning witnesses during private hearings. so what cannot they ask in the public forum? "outfront," digging into benghazi from the beginning. drew, what happened in the secret hearings today? >> the reason the hearings were secret is because they are finally hearing these congressmen are hearing from cia personnel who are on the ground
in benghazi. that was one of the big holes they were telling us they were not getting. so they wanted to hear from them. they did apparently hear from them. and they heard from the security specialist. security personnel who were assign to protect the cia in its mission if benghazi. and we did get some new information on that from the committee itself. and they're basically saying that although there is been a lot of talk of discrepancies, there was not much discrepancy in what they found. if i can just read from you what they are telling us, all the cia activities in benghazi were legal and authorized. on the record testimony establish that's the cia was not sending weapons from libya to syria. or facilitating any other organization from doing that. and this document i just received also puts down the idea that anybody from the cia has been prevented from talking. something the cia has told us
regardless of our reporting the other way. this is from the house committee. they have said they found no cia officer who has been forced to undergo polygraphs as we've reported or to sign nondisclosure agreements, specific to benghazi on otherwise, dissuaded or punished for wanting to speak to congress. it appears it has been asked and answered in a closed door hearing today and tomorrow. >> a lot of people will hear whur saying and say first of all, people will be surprised, i think, a lot of people thought there was some sort of weapons transfer going on in some way. as you yourself have record, on polygraph. so these do fly in the face of other reporting out there. i mean, do you think that there is ever going to be a set of formal answers? why is this a closed door secret hearing any way? >> well, it involves the krafl. a lot of what the cia does is
secret and is supposed to be secret. that's why you have this house permanent intelligence committee. the same thing in the senate. these are representatives who are, have security clearance to get this information and maybe we don't like it because we're not going to hear everything in detail. these are the filters for the american public to make sure that they have oversight over these secret missions, even though they won't share the details with us. >> thank you very much as always lt. still to come, stunning new images of saturn. we'll tell you how much a sight-seeing tour would set you back. plus, rob ford answers ever answered his critics today. >> the reason i drank or did drugs was not because of stressful it was out of sheer stupidity. my customers can shop around--
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today's council meeting turned into a confessional for ford. we'll play a lot of this because you have to see it to believe it. let's start with this. >> these mistakes was not in this council chamber. it was in my personal life i sincerely apologize. i understand the embarrassment i caused every member of this council. i understand the embarrassment that i've caused every resident in the city. i'm humiliated by it but i cannot change the past. the reason i drank or did drugs was not because of stress. it was out of sheer stupidity. that's all it was. i'm not going on blame something, i'm not going to use an excuse or a cop-out. i take full responsibility for my mistakes. >> mr. mayor, do you still have zero tolerance for drugs, guns and gangs? >> absolutely. >> have you purchased illegal drugs in the last two years?
>> yes, i have. >> thank you. >> you know, bill weir is here with me, cnn anchor. you want to laugh. you you hear that person saying be carroeful, be careful. this is hard to watchful. >> you can see his gears grinding. he knows what the police know. there are hundreds of pages, mostly redacted but it is coming out in drips and drabs. a year-long investigation. pinned mostly to gang involvement but now a long time driver indicted and this new stuff today, it reads like a john belushi by a go on ifiogra. it hasn't been proven in court but they interviewed form he staffers, wait erks bar tenders. there are allegations he snorted cocaine, popped oxycontin, pulled over to chug vodka and gatorade while behind the wheel.
was abusive to female staffers, some really horrible language used. then he would veer into crying rants about his late father, doing football sprints in his office, in an agitated state. not proven but it lines up as a guy who really, really needs some help. >> there were a lot of heated moments. you watch that, you see the person confessing. as you said, the length of that pause. just in and of itself. you have a window. you don't usually get into a politician or into anybody. his younger brother was there, also on the council which is an interesting part of the story themselves look alike. his brother is a little smaller but still a big guy. he went after people. let me play that and get your take on it. >> the question is, have you ever smoked marijuana? have you ever smoked marijuana? hold it. have you ever smoked marijuana? it is a question. a simple yes or a no.
have you smoked marijuana? the answer i guess is yes. the answer is yes, i guess. i want everyone else to stand up. >> don't come across that you're holier than thou. because you're not. >> order! >> have you ever drank? have you ever driven? >> careful about throwing rocks. if you ever done drugs -- >> counselor ford. >> i know the answer. i know the answer. >> like he said, out of a movie. >> you got to figure, his brother is his attack dog, confa dent. the major upped the ante in this
hearing when he put forward a motion all should be hair tested by drugs by december 1st and he'll pay for it. it got a laugh. the gallery burst into laughter but the hair test is interesting because when the first crack video allegations surfaced and he denied it, he almost shaved his head and the speculation among city hall is he wants to duck a hair drug test. >> i have to say, they didn't say no when he asked about the marijuana. i guess the answer is yes. i know it's kind of moot. >> marijuana versus crack, argument. >> they are different. >> yeah. >> yeah, a little bit. >> morals, i suppose. >> okay. what will surprise people, though, is this guy is not giving up. i mean, he's not giving up at all. we'll play one more thing and get your take because i know you were up there with voters, so you got a real take on this. >> i think i said everything i really could say today. there is not much to add.
apologizing and saying sorry, you can only say that so many times. there's nothing else to say, guys. i -- i really f-ed up and that's it. i was elected to come down here to straighten this mess out. i know i've done a great job running the city, saving taxpayers money and putting us on the right path. i'm going to continue doing that. i'm so proud of the record that i have. i can't wait until the election. obviously, the campaign started, and i'll be doing everything i've done for the last 13 years, returning calls, watching every dime, going to people's homes and fighting for the little guy in the city, and if you want to carry this on, i can't stop you. i'm moving on.
>> you got to hand it to him, when it comes to politics, this guys got a giant set. he is using -- i've never seen -- first it felt like an intervention but for him this was a campaign opportunity. >> right. >> he was on his stump speech while people were trying to caulk him into a clinic somewhere and to commit. the poll numbers are slipping. he had a lot of support, even after he admitted he smoked crack. we found a lot of people agreed with him. a legendary hockey announcer said hey, i think he's an awesome mayor if you take away the person stuff. when you talk to people, this are a lot of different flavorers of resentment, the lying, admitting to breaking the law but then i met this gentleman outside of city hall. he bares a streaking resemibless. jack mosshammer is an actor and posing with doritoses and a football. he said this is a protest and
his answer as to why he is angry is interesting. listen. what are you hoping happens next? >> what i would really like is an apology. he apologized to the people of toronto. he said it's one of the hardest, most embarrassing thing he had to do but apologizing to one constituent, which he's hoping for a run in 2014 and apologizing to the people in toronto in general but he hasn't apologized to the people he knew were telling the truth he called liars, the reporters that said they seen the tape and called them liars and hurt their reputations as reporters. >> yeah, they really demon newsed reporters on this story for awhile and no apologies to them. >> he's a character and charisma and tragedy in one. >> amen. >> thank you very much. if you missed bill's story when he went to toronto, trust me, it was fantastic, go to our blog to watch it in full and "out front"
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you can see right there, venus is on the upper left and mars appears as a fanlt red dot above and to the left of venus. it covers 400,000 miles, which brings us to 746 million miles. that's a distance between saturn and the earth when the two planets are at the closest and on opposite sides of the sun they could be a billion years apart because of the e help trickle or bet. it sounds like a lot but doesn't take long to get there. in 2006 there was a new horizon space spacecraft. how much would a trip to saturn cost a tourist, if you wanted to see yourself? we looked at tickets on the virgin galactic. $250,000 for space. using that rate, it would cost a space tourist $2 billion each way to go sightseeing in saturn. one way, no snacks, up grade,
food. we figured no one would spend 20% of their worth so we looked at people worth a lot of money. $20 billion or more. so imagine five years on a round trip tour to saturn, up close and personal time, jeff, bill gates mark zuckerberg and valid her putin, all of them have that money. which one would you want to sit next to for five years? let me know on twitter on erin let me know on twitter on erin burnett. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good evening everyone. i'm anderson cooper reporting from tacloban in the philippines. it's thursday morning, 9:00 a.m. and a new day has begun. in the last several hours there has been significant developments to tell you about. yesterday i talked to the general paul kennedy who promised he would bebout to get this airport, the runway up and running on a 24-hour basis. he fulfill that promisth