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him. it's not just stupid, turns out it's very deadly. at this point, the count is going up. five people in britain and ireland have died. one person drank two pints of gin. wasn't that guy, another guy. deadly. be careful, please. thanks everyone, for watching. thanks everyone, for watching. "wolf" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- right now, president obama's approval rating down ten points from this time last year. also right now. authorities questioning the co piled of a plane after he hijacked his own flight. one that had more than 200 passengers and crew on board. and right now, there is, quote, an abundance of evidence of crimes against humanity in north korea, including murder, torture and mass starvation. taking a closer look at the united nations report this hour. hello, i'm wolf blitzer reporting from washington. what a difference a year makes
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on this presidents' day, the latest poll numbers show a dramatic drop in the president's approval rating in this time a year ago. 42% of the respondents approve of the way the president is handling his job, down ten points this time last year. the poll is an average of thee national surveys. president obama sat down for an interview that aired ahead of the nba all-star game last night and former basketball star, charles barkley of our sister network, tnt, asked him about having his name tied to health care reform. >> what do you think of the term "obamacare"? >> i like it. i don't mind. and i tell you, five years from now when everybody is saying, man, i'm sure glad we got health care, there are going to be a whole bunch of people who don't call it obamacare, because they don't want me to get the credit. you don't know what life will throw at you. and sometimes people don't recognize, particularly young people, how important it is to have coverage until you get sick
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and you realize you may lose everything you have or your parents may lose everything they have trying to make you well. >> let's bring in our senior washington correspondent, joe johns, over at the white house today. joe, the interview got into several other sensitive subjects, including gay rights. tell us about that. >> that's right, wolf. as we all know, the president of the united states is a huge sports fan, and in that interview with charles barkley on tnt, the president applauding michael sam, the college football standout, who had become the first openly gay nfl football player. the president applauding sam, not only for coming out in the first place, but also for the timing of his announcement. take a listen. >> this week, michael sam came out. >> right. >> and i saw the first lady call his decision courageous. >> right. >> what do you think about that? >> i really like the fact that michael did it before the draft. because his attitude was, you know, what i know who i am.
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i know i can play great football. and judge me on the merits. >> as you heard there, the first lady, michelle obama, also vice president biden have legended their support to michael sam, as well. pretty clear from this and other steps the administration has taken, they're seeing the fight for acceptance in the gay community as a defining issue. wolf? >> all right, joe, thanks very much. we're going to have more of the interview, charles barkley's interview with president obama airing later today this hour. also, by the way, at 5:00 p.m. eastern, "the situation room" charles will join us live. we'll discuss what he saw at the white house, the behind the scenes moves, his impression of the president, more. charles barkley joining me live in "the situation room" 5:00 p.m. eastern. a hijacked plane landing and the co pilot claiming out the window. it was that co pilot who
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actually hijacked the plane. our frederick taken is joining us from berlin. he landed in switzerland. what happened? >> reporter: yeah, wolf, there are so many bizarre details that it's hard to actually name all of them. apparently he waited until the plane reached cruising altitude over africa and for the pilot to go to the bathroom and then locked himself into the cockpit, steered the plane toward switzerland and even while hovering in swiss air pace, negotiating with the authorities. i want you to listen to a portion of what he talked to with the air traffic controllers. let's listen in. >> you have to give us -- >> sorry. we are waiting for a response. we will get you a response. >> reporter: so they were having trouble getting him the answers,
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wolf, which is no secret, because it was 6:00 a.m. in the morning in switzerland as he was demanding an answer on his asylum request. so clearly, he didn't get it then. he then landed the plane. the passengers able to disembark. most didn't know their plane had been hijacked and landed in the wrong city. they all thought they were in rome and they were in geneva and it was full of police on the tarmac, wolf. >> what are the chances this pilot, co pilot, will actually get asylum? >> reporter: well, he says he feels he's under threat in ethiopia and clearly a country that does have a lot of internal issues. the swiss authorities have already said, it's still very early in this process. but on the one hand, very difficult for him to say what's going to happen. but they do say that hijacking a plane certainly is not the way to get political asylum and may very well end up in a swiss jail instead of getting asylum in that country. they say that air piracy, as they call hijacking an aircraft, carries up to 20 years in jail. but it's still far too early to
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tell if he's going to have to go to jail, if he's going to get asylum or whether they might deport him back to ethiopia. still early in the process, wolf. >> all right. you'll stay in touch with us. fred pliken joining us. thank you. if you're listening to pando pandora, you may be tipping your hand politically. we'll tell you why. that's coming up this hour. up next, has u.s. policy in syria been a complete failure? that's what one senior u.s. senator is saying. [ tires screech ] [ car alarm chirps ] ♪ [ male announcer ] we don't just certify our pre-owned vehicles. we inspect, analyze, and recondition each one, until it's nothing short of a genuine certified pre-owned mercedes-benz for the next new owner. [ car alarm chirps ] hurry in to the mercedes-benz certified pre-owned sales event. visit today for exceptional offers. ♪
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turning now to the civil war in syria. some 5,000 people have lost their lives to fighting in just the past three weeks, making this one of the most violent periods yet in the
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three-year-old conflict and little hope it will end soon. harsh words from republican senator john mccain. >> the policy towards syria has been an abyss mal failure and disgraceful one as we have watched these horrendous what director clapper said was a apop apocalyptic situation, 11,000 documented pictures of the starvation, beating, murder, torture of men, women and children. >> the desperate situation inside syria sent wave after wave of refugees racing for the border. the u.n. estimates 2 million syrians have fled to neighboring countries. among them, this 4-year-old boy who arrived today at the jordanian border alone. u.n. refugee workers say he got separated from his family and
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ended up crossing a large part of the desert by himself. a little 4-year-old boy who carried his worldly goods in a plastic sack. he was successfully reunited with his family inside jordan. for months, reports have been emerging from northern syria about atrocities being carried out by a rebel group of al qaeda-inspired terrorists. it's known as isis, the islamic state of iraq and syria. isis has been battling the syrian government, as well as other rebel groups. some of which are moderate and supported by the west. it wants to oppose a fundamentalist version of islam of people under its control. and the brutality carried out by this isis force is so extreme that it's been highly dangerous for journalists to report from areas under its control. but now as isis is being forced out of some areas, cnn's senior internation international correspondent, r
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arwa damon travels to adana in northern syria to witness the human devastation left in its wake. we should warn you, some of these images in this exclusive report are very disturbing. >> reporter: this grave has been dug up before. the bodies unidentified, reburied in the same spot. in video filmed at the time, gruesome images of the corpses of four men. it's among many mass graves rebel fighters unearthed. from radical fighters who once were their allies. now weeks later, a family hopes for closure. we found a foot and a shoe and a jacket, she says. she is with her neighbor, mohamed. it's his two younger brothers missing. one might be here. he just went out to get tomatoes
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and sugar, mohamed recalls. still disbelieving. and his wife wanted socks for their kids. it's the same jacket, mohamed says. the site is next to a former prison run by isis. the islamic state in iraq and syria. it's walls lined with bullet holes. some from clashes. others, we are told, from executions. massed isis fighters, as seen in this rare video posted to youtube, used fear to rule. anyone caught filming them, killed. this was the main isis checkpoint leading into adana. and as part of their terror tactics, eye-witnesses were telling us that they would leave some of the bodies of people they had executed lining the check points so that every single car coming through would be forced to slow down and could not ignore that brutal message.
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isis is a group so merciless that even al qaeda has reportedly distanced itself from it. they are telling us that isis had beheaded one of the key rebel commanders here, and they came in the early morning when the market was really busy and placed his head on top of the garbage heap that was in that very same spot. and they turned around and told everybody that that would be the fate of anyone who dared speak out against them. their harsh, intolerable rule, caused other islamist and moderate rebel groups to watch an offensive against them earlier this year. so we had to leave the fronts with the regime, he says. and fall back to fight isis, to liberate the already liberated areas another time. but isis still looms large in syria, consolidating its forces.
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imposing its reign of terror. in this video filmed the day after we met mohamed, he realizes, it's not two, but three of his brothers that were murdered by isis. he thought one of them was in jail. >> and arwa joining us now from beirut. what an amazing story. first of all, how dangerous was this for you and the -- our colleagues to make this trip into northern syria? >> reporter: well, it was pretty unnerving, wolf, since isis first appeared on the syrian battlefield. they made it incredibly difficult for journalists who move around. we have to avoid them as much as we have to avoid the regime forces. they deliberately set out to try to target the activists, as well. there are a number of individuals that stale remain in their custody. so it took a lot of research in terms of trying to put the plan together. and you take as many precautions
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as you possibly can, but there is a certain level of risk involved. >> do we know, arwa, where these isis rebels have gone? >> reporter: well, according to the rebels that we were traveling with, the closest isis front lines or strong holds are about 60 miles away from where we were. now, this offensive against isis is not just happening in adana. it's happening across northern syria, and isis fighters are now consolidating themselves, it seems, in some of the areas where they do believe they have firm control to the east, for example, right up against the border with iraq. now, isis may have been driven out of some places, but still very much remains entrenched in syria and is an incredibly terrifying force. they number around 7 to 11 n,00 many with experience fighting the war in iraq and are
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determined to do whatever it's going to take from suicide bombings to assassinations to establish their ultimate goal, and that is the creation of an islamic state, wolf. >> and this isis group, they have a significant presence in iraq right now, whether in fallujah, on bar. you have spent a lot of time in iraq. they seem to be gaining some significant strength, not only in syria, but iraq, as well. >> reporter: and they are effectively an extension of the islamic state of iraq, headed by omar omar al badadi who a year ago announced the accretion of the islamic state of syria and iraq and that is when we saw isis setting itself up, beginning to set itself up, inside the syrian battlefield. arguably right now it is more powerful than it has ever been across both nations, because it has proven that it is capable of expanding from iraq into syria, very capable of taking advantage
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of the kind of dynamics that we see in syria, the chaos, the killings. what's really interesting about it, though, is that isis in syria, the syrian battlefield, has proven to be more of a magnet for jihadi foreign fighters than iraq ever was. we're seeing a significantly higher number of foreign fighters streaming towards syria, especially those coming from europe and even from the united states than we ever saw back in the days when al qaeda was at its strongest in iraq, wolf. >> and u.s. officials are very concerned some of those foreign fighters will leave syria. some already have. go to europe, come back to the united states, even, and engage in terrorists acts here. a breeding ground for international terrorism. arwa damon and crew doing exceptionally courageous work for us. thank you very much. up next, president obama's take on syria and the administration's efforts to try to end the fighting. i'll discuss that and more with the "crossfire" co hosts.
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. last week, president obama said he's feeling, quote, enormous frustration over syria and calls syria, quote, a crumbling state. but the president is sticking with the current u.s. policy of effectively ruling out military intervention. here with us, two of the co hosts of cnn's "cross fire," he is s se cupp and van jones. no appetite to get involved militarily in iraq and afghanistan. is it a mistake for the president to be saying what he's
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sayi saying? >> it's one of so many mistakes we have made on this conflict. the conflict has been going on just over two years. and all of the worst things we know now, we knew two years ago. we knew bashar al assad was killing his own citizens. we know he had chemical weapons. we knew he had proxies in hez and russia, dangerous people in a dangerous world and we knew that al qaeda and isis and other g jihadist fronts were going to capitalize on the chaos. they have done all of that. and the problem is that obama has pleased no one. if you wanted military intervention, if you wanted us to go in, he clearly hasn't provided that. if you wanted us to stay out, well, too bad. he's drawn headlines, called for the oust of assad. he has allowed a deal where they take chemical weapons. we are both in and out and our inaction and confusion has made this a more dangerous conflict. >> and a lot of the u.s. allies, the saudis or the emirates, they're very worried about u.s.
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strategy in the middle east right now, because -- and i've spoken privately with these leaders. they say they don't see a strategy. >> we don't have one. >> first of all, let's be clear that it's a good thing that the president is ruling out military intervention right now, because there's a big question. how much would it cost? who would pay for it? how long would we be there and whose kids are going to fight that? i think it's important we're exhausting all diplomatic means, nonmilitary means to get in there. that said, we are now in a situation where we have to have a regroup and a reset. this disaster in geneva, i think, opens a new chapter. what we are doing right now is not working. we're going to have to do something different. the difference, though, between the liberal internationalists and some of our more hawkish friends, we don't think we're going to be able to shoot our way out of this thing, bomb other way out of this thing. we have got to do two things. one, we've got to double down on humanitarian aid and call russia's bluff. if russia wants to be this new power, stop blocking humanitarian aid, and number
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two, put ourselves in a position where we get iran and saudi arabia to the table together. because this is actually a proxy war between them. >> but drawing a red line is implicitly suggesting military intervention. when you draw a red line, we have we have done not once, but a few times and continued to move it, the implication there is we are willing to put our full military behind the weight of those words. >> here's what i would say. i would rather for us to stumble on the way to peace than to blunder into another war. part of the problem we have right now is that we overextended ourselves the last time. and so now you have not just the president not wanting to go forward, the american people don't want to go forward. and frankly, most of the republicans when they had a chance to vote for war, they didn't want that either. >> the president did not make the case effectively. he came out a year later to say, here's what i am asking you to do. he didn't tell us why. he was mixed on the strategy, even. he said, going in militaritorily is not calling for assad's ouster. what? >> do you think we would be better off right now if we were
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engaged in another land war, another civil war in the middle east? >> i think we are going to be paying for your inaction far longer than any surgical military action now that would be a tough decision, but the right thing to do. >> should the u.s. provide $1 billion to jordan to help with these hundreds of thousands of refugees who have fled from syria into jordan, a close friend and ally of the united states? >> you know, someone has got to -- >> absolutely. -- >> deal with this humanitarian crisis, millions of refugees. we are part of the world stage. i think it is our responsibility to help out in ways we can. >> you agree? >> absolutely. >> i don't know if it's going to be enough, though. >> first of all, of course. but here's a problem. liberals like myself criticize george w. bush for rushing into war. we said it was an illegal war. the u.n. wasn't with him. he didn't have plain to win the peace. we captain can't now ask obama to go in with no u.n. mandate, no coalition and no plan to win the war. so we have to be consistent
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here, what we learned from the iraq war was that bush's strategy was wrong. this strategy is being proposed now even worse. >> didn't he go into libya illegally without congress? >> i believe that was the united nations. >> security council resolution. >> okay. >> your thoughts quickly on mitt romney, very different subject, suggesting hillary clinton, if she runs for president again, she should be judged on her own merits, her own record, including secretary of state, and forget about her husband. you don't have to bring him into the equation with some of the issues that, for example, rand paul has been discussing lately. >> mitt romney is generally a little high-minded about these sorts of things. no matter what republicans bring up, it will be the wrong thing. we will not be allowed to bring up benghazi. we will not be allowed to bring up her past. we will not be allowed to talk about her health or bill clinton. >> you do it anyway. we're not going to stop you from doing that. >> was it right to bring up the dog on mitt romney's car or fraternity? she is a public figure,
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potentially running for president. everything should be on the table. >> everything will be on the table. everything is already on the table. she hasn't even announced. i do think it was really important for mitt romney to say what he said. because at the end of the day, i do think it's important for hillary clinton's record to be the record she runs on and judged on. also, stuff will come in. but i thought it was very high-minded on the part of the mitt romney. also very appropriate. at some point, we've got to start drawing some lines about what's in and outside the lines. it's all going to come in. >> i would love to do that. we only have that conversation when it's about a democrat. >> quite often. >> i heard -- >> van -- you know, somebody runs for president -- >> it's all -- >> don't run -- if you have some baggage, leave it -- don't run for president of the united states. >> i agree with that. all i'm saying is, there will be foul balls, fair balls. somebody should be willing to call the fair ones fair and foul ones foul. >> good discussion. you can see "crossfire" weeknights 6:30 p.m. eastern right after "the situation
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room." tonight more on president obama's foreign policy. se and van, check it out, 6:30 p.m. eastern. later on, pandora says it can predict your political choices. just by who you listen to. but up next, political odd fellows, awkward relationship between senators rand paul and mitch mcconnell, both of kentucky. [ tires screech ] [ car alarm chirps ] ♪ [ male announcer ] we don't just certify our pre-owned vehicles. we inspect, analyze, and recondition each one, until it's nothing short of a genuine certified pre-owned mercedes-benz for the next new owner. [ car alarm chirps ] hurry in to the mercedes-benz certified pre-owned sales event. visit today for exceptional offers. ♪ if you have a business idea, we have a personalized legal solution
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about to give an update on the winter olympic games in sochi, russia. if you don't want to know, spoiler alert, spoiler alert. don't listen right now. just for a few seconds. pause for one second right now. we're pausing. all right. americans meryl davis and charlie white, they have won, yes, they have won the gold medal in ice dance. there they are, congratulations
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to both of them. another gold medal for the united states. all right. that's it. let's move on to some merle news political news we're watching right now. far from being friends, the political relationship between senator's mitch mcconnell and rand paul, awkward. but today the two are out there together. they're taking part in a series of events, mostly in rural eastern kentucky. for more on the political dynamic between these two senators from kentucky, let's bring in our national political reporter, peter hamby. peter watching all of this for a while. how would you characterize the relationship between the senior and the junior senator from kentucky? >> who hail from completely different wings of the republican party. cordial, professional. you talk to people around them. they don't actively dislike each other. but this can be described as a nonaggression pact. mitch mcconnell saw what happened in 2010 in kentucky, in that republican primary, where rand paul came out of nowhere,
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an ophthalmologist from bowling green, kentucky, and beat the choice for u.s. senate. rand paul representing the libtarian wing of the party. he, you know, has courted rand paul, and got his support. and then for rand paul, you know, i'll eat my tie if he doesn't run for president in 2016. he needs to make himself a little bit more palatable to the republican establishment, expand his donor base, and try to grow what is really sort of a limited set of voters inside a republican primary. >> you know, he does have a tea party opponent, mitch mcconnell, for the republican senatial nomination but rand paul has endorsed mitch mcconnell. even though he might on several sense active issues be more inclined to go along with the tea party candidate as opposed to the more established republican candidate. >> right. and rand paul is kind of rankled a few supporters by doing this,
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being so blatantly for mitch mcconnell. he's not super enthusiastic about this. he was asked about it on glenn beck's radio show recently. why did you endorse mitch mcconnell and rand paul said, well, he asked me. and remember, mitch mcconnell hired paul's former campaign manager to run his campaign and he was caught on tape last year saying he was, quote, holding his nose and working for mitch mcconnell. so they're not wildly enthusiastic for each other. but again, by having each person on their team, they're sort of keeping, you know, opposite forces at bay. >> last week mcconnell took a bold position in allowing a vote fog forward to raise the nation's debt ceiling without strings attached, no concessions, no demands that earlier had been made. getting a lot of grief for that. rand paul diplomat vodidn't vot for that legislation. he was much more tea party oriented, more conservative on that. so this is an issue that mitch mcconnell will have to deal with in a republican primary. >> absolutely. that's sort of why he is at rand
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paul's side throughout kentucky or the next two days. mcconnell is running against matt bevin, trying to cease the tea party mantle in that state. i think the vote probably won't be as much of a big issue as people say it is. if you're voting in a republican primary on the basis of a procedural debt ceiling vote you're probably for matt bevin anyway. mcconnell don't have the strongest standing, still winning the primary about 20, 25 points so in the driver's seat here, but has to protect his flank. the bigger challenge might be the general election against democrat allison grimes, who will have a lot of money behind her, wolf. >> coming up, assuming he gets the republican nomination. >> that's right. >> we'll see what happens. that's why we like covering politics. peter, thanks very much. so are democrats big fans of bruce springsteen? would republicans rather listen to country music? pandora says it has figured out how your music choices reveal your politics and wants to turn
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that knowledge into profit. cnn correspondent laurie segall joining us from new york right now. let's talk a little bit about this. some folks will watch various shows, listen to various music, that may not necessarily reflect their political positions. but they like the shows. so is this an accurate reflection of a political agenda, shall we say? >> reporter: sure. look, i share your sentiment. just because, you know, someone potentially listens to country music doesn't mean they're necessarily republican. but the key here and what pandora is doing, when you sign up for this app, you sign up with your zip code. and wolf, your zip code has a lot of valuable geographic data that pandora is taking advantage. so in the past, what they have done is looked at your zip code and said, hey, a lot of folks in this area, this is where the election goes. whether it goes to the left or the right. now they're adding in your listening preference. so they're able to say, if you live in a certain -- this is an example they gave me. if you live in a certain suburb of chicago, that generally votes to the left, and they can look and see that a lot of folks
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might listen to reggae music and take that and correlate it and target. wolf, i spoke to a partner, partnered with an advertising firm called bully pulpit and spoke to a partner from there and said what's interesting about this technology? listen to what he said, wolf. >> most interesting thing about pandora's new technology is the ability to not only reach the right voter at the right time, but get to know them, get to understand a little bit more about their lifestyle. get to know a little bit more about what their tastes are. >> you know, the idea is that the more they know about you, whether it's where you live, whether it's what you listen to, the better they can target those political ads to you. they said that they have already drawn the correlations between country music -- between republican zip codes and country music and also democratic zip codes and something like they say their listeners listen to jazz and reggae. it's this profile they can make money off, wolf.
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>> we have seen targeted political ads on pandora. >> we have. we haven't seen when it comes to the listening, but when it comes to them targeting us based on where we live. so a lot of new york pandora listeners, when bill de blasio running for office, they started getting certain ads. and i believe we have some examples of them. and essentially, while you were listening to a song, they would say, hey, you know, if you live in a certain zip code, put in your e-mail address, trying to build out their e-mail context. another example, terry mcauliffe in virginia, over 1 million pandora users actually got an ad that said, you know, this is where you should go and vote, you know, for terry. so that's really what they're trying to do. build this rich profile, who their listeners are, so they can make money, wolf. >> making money, obviously very important for all of these companies. thanks very much for that, laurie. appreciate it. a new report accuses the north koreans of crimes against humanity. we have details of these extremely disturbing allegations. when you have diabetes like i do,
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a new united nations report is leveling some extremely disturbing allegations against the regime in north korea. it says there is, quote, abundant evidence that officials in north korea have committed crimes against humanity, including starvation and the mistreatment of children. brian todd is working this story for us, here. what are some of the highlights or low lights, should we say, of this report? >> really staggering, wolf. an exhaustive report, interviewed 300-plus witnesses, 400 pages of this. it details systematic enslavement, rape, murder, torture, especially in prison camps. more than 100,000 people believed to be held. one camp survivor, just one example, told of a pregnant woman who was nearly starved to death, gave birth to a baby. a security officer heard the baby's cries, beat the mother as punishment, and then forced her
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to drown the baby. just one account. and it goes on and on and on about these prison camps. another account from a survivor named park ji hun, in a labor camp, told a story about women being treated like livestock. take a listen. >> jobs included plaining do planing down the hills, we didn't have shoes, and the road had rocks and broken glasses. they didn't -- they thought we were going to escape. we were risk of escape. and instead of using ox or cows as the carriage for us, four of us actually worked as a cow, dragging the cart.
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>> one analyst we spoke to says this is a huge breakthrough, this u.n. report on north korea, because it details what he says is, quote, the worst human rights situation in the world. and wolf, when you think of what's going on in syria, in the central african republic and nigeria, places like that, that's staggering. >> what have the north koreans said in response? >> we got hold of them at their offices at the u.n. headquarters in geneva, and said this is basically bogus, this is fake, part of a political plot to sabotage north korea, and here's a quote. the, quote, human rights violations mentioned in the so-called report do not exist in our country. now, we also have to say that the north koreans did not cooperate with the u.n., denied them access when they were taking almost a year to compile this report. >> brian todd, thanks very much for that report. later in the show, online dating has gotten a bad rap but slowly but surely that stigma seems to be fading away. you'll hear one couple's story
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joining us now to take a closer look, take us through the ranking. the top five right now. what do we see? >> any student of history should not be surprised by the top ranked first lady. eleanor roosevelt has always topped this survey. what might surprise you is abigail adments is number two and jackie kennedy number three and dolly madison number four and our current first lady made her did you bee as number five. she knocked hillary clinton out of the top five. hillary clinton is number six. what they are judged on is integrity and courage and leadership and own accomplishments. we are talking about the first ladies here. public image was a big one. the ones that are their own women. then who is the best in the white house?
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hillary clinton is knocked out of the top five. laura bush and nancy reagan. where do they stand? >> barbara bush was 11th and her daughter in law laura bush was 12th and nancy reagan was 15th. >> 15th. these are historians that look back and try to make the determinations. as you say based on these various factors? a lot is so subjective. >> they had a separate set for ranking just the modern first ladies. on effectively managing family life in the white house, michelle obama won by a lot. she doubled up on jackie kennedy who got 22% for doing that. other categories like who had the best legacy and best service. eleanor roosevelt won, but hillary clinton was almost second in every category. that was interesting. one other is who can you most
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when instead they fountain idea. >> we do our banking online and our social networking online. why not try online match making. >> she signed up with an internet dating service. he did too. >> you call and i think i saw you the next friday and we never have been apart since. >> online dating once widely viewed as sketchy or a haven for the desperate has been a billion dollar business, filling the airwaves with ads. a study found a third of marriages between 2005 and 2012 began online. in part because the internet solves a fundamental problem. >> the biggest question is where do i meet people. >> rachel is a relationship consultant who said the massive growth that filter choices by religion, race, age, even beauty allows like minded users to quickly connect. >> if you can hang out with a
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bunch of vegetarians and you are passionate about it, why not join a vegetarian dating site. >> another cause is the economy. when the recession hits, many people started looking for less cost leeways to explore happies, giving online dating a big boost. it does not work for everyone, of course, but -- war war we are starting our fourth year of internet dating marriage. we have an internet dating baby and live in an internet dating house. >> it's a trend with a story look bend. tom forman, cnn. >> president obama spoke about with the former nba star, there were lighter moments. we know the president loves playing basketball so it should come as no surprise that the subject came out.
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>> these days it's probably once a month. you just get older and creepier. the second thing is you have to start thinking about elbows and you break your nose before the state of the union address. think about basketball. you think about what the nba was before african-americans were allowed to play on equal foot. you think about the stories like oscar robertson did. i wouldn't be sitting here if it wasn't for him. i think america is stronger where everybody is being treated with respect and dignity. >> this reminder that charles barkley will join me live in "the situation room" later today
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at 5:00 p.m. eastern. we will get the behind the scenes at the white house for this interview with president obama. charles barkley and me in "the situation room" later today. that's it for me right now. thanks for watching. newsroom continues right now with brooke baldwin. >> wolf blitzer, thank you so much. great to be with you on this monday. i'm brooke baldwin. we have a murder defendant who is coming clean in a stomach turning kind of way. reportedly once a victim herself, this 19-year-old woman said she has victimized many. in a jail house interview, miranda barber told a pennsylvania newspaper she killed too many to count. barber is charged with the murder of a man she and her husband lured through a craigslist ad. they don't believe her yet about the other killings, but they are looking into it. here's cnn's susan candiotti. >> a stunning new development in the c


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