and he now lives in montana. 20 years. of thanks for watching, everyone. good to have you with us. stay tuned. my colleague, wolf blitzer, is up next with "wolf." up next with "wolf." it starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com right now, shrinking the u.s. army down to preworld war ii size. chuck hagel will roll out the pentagon's plan to make that happen. we'll bring the announcement live and talk about what it means for u.s. national security. also right now, the streets are calmer. the ex president is on the run. but ukraine's future is full of questions. he'll speak with the u.s. ambassador to the ukraine about what comes next. that's coming up this hour, as well. and right now, president obama plays host to the nation's governor. on the agenda, the economy, health care, and just who might take over the white house in the election in 2016. hello, i'm wolf blitzer, reporting from washington.
we start with big cuts over at the pentagon. we're awaiting the arrival of the defense secretary, chuck hagel, and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general martin dempsey. they'll be laying out the details of the new proposed pentagon budget and the cuts. you're looking at live pictures from the briefing room over there at the pentagon. once they come in, we'll go there, we'll hear what chuck hagel has to say. the "new york times" is reporting that under this new proposed budget, the u.s. army will be cut to a level not seen since before world war ii. that means a drop to around 450,000 active duty soldiers. but the new budget is also expected to protect critical programs like cyber warfare. the old strategy was to have enough military strength to fight two ground wars simultaneously. that's changed with new directives and now with a projected smaller fighting force. let's discuss what's going on as we await the defense secretary. joining us, general george joe, former nato ally commander.
i assume you think this is smart for hagel to be making these cuts. >> i think it's necessary. whether it's smart or not, yet to be seen. but i think it's necessary to do, given the constraints that we face fiscally within the united states. how they're cut is going to be important. that's why what's going to be said here is also extremely important. what are the risks involved? how much risk are we willing to take, and can we with this strategy deter war as well as fight it. >> we're talking basically about reducing active duty u.s. army personnel by 30, 40, 50,000 over the next few years. but if you take a look, we had up to 200,000 u.s. troops in iraq. they are all gone. we had 150, 180,000 u.s. troops in afghanistan by the end of this year, they will be gone. we don't need that huge u.s. army contingent, given the fact there are no more ground wars and none in the foreseeable future that we envision.
>> you're correct. and how deep do we go? i remember after the cold war, when i was a commander, we went from 350,000 troops in europe to in three years less than 100,000 troops. so we have taken these cuts after every war, world war ii, korean war, cold war, after iraq and afghanistan we're going to see the same cuts. it's to do what -- >> first of all, to save money, that's -- given the budget problems across the board, you want -- if you don't need it for the military, you can build housing, infrastructure, education, help people. that's -- or cut the deficit, if you will. that's pretty significant in and of itself. >> but the issue is, you have to then be very cautious about how you engage. what's going to happen in the middle east, what's going to happen in africa. i remember fighting five assignments lesser contingency simultaneously.
>> when you were in the nato -- >> and european commander. >> that was really at the height of the cold war, when there were a lot of tensions all over the region, all over the world. >> that was after the cold war, and that's when we took these dramatic cuts from our structure then. >> here's what bothers me and you tell me if it bothers you. you take a look at how much we, the united states of america, spend on defense spending every year. and you add up the next 12 countries, including russia, china, north korea, iran, france, britain, canada. all of whom together we spend more than the next 12 combined. why do american taxpayers need to carry that kind of burden, and let the other nato allies, the other allies, basically come off cheap? >> i think it's important for our allies to do more. i really think what we need to understand, what are our national interests, our strategic interests in the world, and what do we need to protect those interests?
i'm all for saving money. i'm all for saying that we are -- we may have -- spend more than any other nation. >> the next 12 nations combined. >> well, but how do we get nato to do more? how do we get other nations? you know, nearly 40 nations had joined us in iraq and afghanistan. over 35 nations joined me in bosnia. and so we are in a world where i think we're getting cooperation from other nations. we just want to protect our troops more so we give them armored protective space, the best equipment, we give them the best -- and we take care of them if they get hurt. >> i want to keep you. we're still waiting for the defense secretary, chuck hagel, to speak. we'll hear what he has to say and then continue this conversation. but a lot of those nations sense symbolic forces, there are a couple hundred, 30 or 40. we had a nice number, 30 or 40. but let's be honest. a lot of that participation was token. >> i don't want to disagree.
however, i would tell you, in bosnia, the norwegians sent me a battalion troops. let's say 5 or 600, 700 troops. out of a population of about 4 million, that to them is an important commitment. and other nations have sent units. and that -- the cost -- >> i'm not complaining about the norwegians. but some of those countries -- and you know which ones i'm talking about -- they send a dozen, two dozen, they say they're participating. it's not really serious. but -- >> we need to have leadership. >> i'm not disagree with you. we are going to continue this conversation, because obviously there is a lot at stake. stand by. the former nato supreme allied commander. other news as we await chuck hagel. warnings from both east and west over ukraine. russia says they aren't convinced the new government is legitimate. while the u.s. is saying this. >> it's not in the interests of ukraine or of russia or europe or the united states to see the
country split. it's in nobody's interest to see violence return, and the situation escalate. there is not an inherent contradiction, david, between a ukraine that has longstanding historic and cultural ties to russia and a modern ukraine that wants to integrate more closely with europe. >> that's the president's national security adviser, susan rice. she also said russia putting boots on the ground, if they were to do so, would be a grave mistake. her words. meanwhile, in ukraine, a warrant how now been issued for the arrest of the now former president, yanukovych, in connection to the killing of dozens of protesters last week. butti yanukovych is missing. joining us live from kiev is our own correspondent, phil black. so where do they think the former president is hiding out right now, phil? >> reporter: well, wolf, acting interior minister of ukraine says he's in the east, in a private residence. they say he called together his
security detail and asked them, who wants to stay, who wants to go. and at least some of them left. he has since then, we are told, traveled south, into a region known as the crimere, a very big naval base down that way. you mentioned there is an arrest warrant for him. that's because this new government here in kiev is investigating what it says was mass murder, committed on the streets of the capital last week. that was last week when yanukovych was president. now he is very much a fugitive in his own country, wolf. >> is there a real fear there, phil, that russia, seeing what's happening in his next door neighbor, might be intervening militarily? >> reporter: i don't think it's considered an imminent threat, wolf. but you mentioned russia's concern. and that is very much a factor. they have said they don't like what's happening here, don't like the parliament, the law, the new government, people a part of it. it says some are nazis. crucially, it says what it's really concerned about are the
rights of russians in ukraine. these are people in the east of the country who have strong cultural, ethnic ties to russia. if there is an issue that could potentially provoke russia to increase the way in which it could possibly intervene in this country, it could be the possibility of ethnic russians, perhaps some with passports and citizenships, calling out to moscow for help, because they don't like what the new central government in kiev is doing, wolf. >> just to be precise, phil, who is calling whom nazis in this confrontation? >> reporter: so it is the russians believe that some of the people that have been part of the revolution on the streets behind me that are making up part of the seats in parliament, part of the new government, what they say ultra nationalists. super right wing. they have even used the expression "neo-nazis." there is certainly one of the major opposition parties, a nationalist party. but i know that they would certainly dispute any sort of
allegation that would express that they are to that extent on the rise. they would certainly reject any allegation of being kneo nazi, wolf. >> reporter: phil black in kiev. lots at stake for the united states, indeed, in europe and the whole world. coming up at the bottom of the hour, i'll speak live with u.s. ambassador in ukraine, he's in kiev. i'll ask about this potential threat. let's hope it doesn't exist. of a russian military involvement in ukraine. the crisis continues to escalate in venezuela right now with burning trash in the streets and protesters foreign against the government showing no sign of backing down. there are fears now more violence could break out ahead of possible peace talks later this week. according to the "new york times," officials say at least 13 people have died in nearly three weeks of anti-government protests. we'll stay on top of the situation in venezuela. we're waiting for the defense secretary, chuck hagel, to come to the microphone. as soon as he does -- there you see live pictures from the briefing room over at the
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technology weaponry that can reduce manpower, if you will. the u.s. army will go down to a size that it hasn't seen since before world war ii. this as a result of the withdrawal of all u.s. forces from iraq. at the high point, 2,000 troops, and about 30 or 40,000 still there, all supposed to be out by the end of this year. there is a debate between the u.s. and afghan government how many will remain, if, in fact, any will remain after u.s. troops are out by the end of this year. as we await the defense secretary, chuck hagel, the retired u.s. nato supreme allied commander, general george jalwahn and watching and listening to what's going on. quickly on afghanistan. the afghan government of that immediate karzai, getting ready to leave, they don't want to sign this agreement that will allow any u.s. troops to stay, have immunity from their prosecution or whatever. they're putting all sorts of demands, release terror suspects
from guantanamo. this is a big problem right now. i don't know how you feel about keeping any troops in afghanistan after the end of this year. >> i would keep as few as possible. >> you like that 3,000 number? >> 3,000 -- but to do what, is the issue. >> to train the afghan military. >> train the afghan. but i also think we don't want afghan to become a training ground for terrorists again. but that could be done off shore. >> they have had 12 years. they've got 300,000 of their own troops. why can't they do it themselves? if this is a legitimate military and legitimate government? >> we did that in iraq. we pulled out of iraq. i did a study for congress and said that they can take over. and they did. and i think the afghans should be able to do the same thing. it should not take u.s. forces in a combat role to be able to do that. i think the sooner we can pull those forces out, the better. >> all right. so we're going to await -- they're obviously running a little bit at the pentagon. we'll stand by to hear from chuck hagel. there is other news we're
watching right now. including this. the white house says uganda took a step backwards today with their controversial anti gay law, criminalizing homosexuality with harsh penalties, including life in prison. the statement, they reiterat reiterated -- president obama's belief that this law in uganda is, quote, more than an affront and danger to the gay community in u begganduganda, it reflectsn the country's commitment to protecting the human rights of its people. but officials cheered when the u ugandan president signed the bill this morning, who then told cnn he finds homosexuals, and i'm quoting this ugandan president, disgusting. arwa damon has more. >> reporter: the 2010 tabloid banner read "hang them." david kato told cnn then, he knew he was in danger. >> the military is going to set my house ablaze.
>> reporter: homophobia in this deeply conservative christian nation is rabid. david's mother says she didn't know he was gay until he was murdered. i would condemn him, she responds. i would hate him. but i would counsel him. she too stigmatized by his sexuality and did not want us to visit her at home. the community keeps accusing me that i bring whites to promote homosexuality among the children, she tells us. the irony gay rights activists say, is that it was a small group of american evangelicals who came to uganda, speaking out against homosexuality, which was already illegal, that really took the persecution of the lgbt community to a new level. >> some friends -- >> reporter: casha is one of the new gay activists to speak out in public. >> so they want to advise them to change the law.
they went to universities and told students that we are recruiting them, into homosexuality, that we have a lot of money. they should be careful. then they went to parents and told them we are recruiting their children. >> the first draft of an anti homosexuality bill, she recalls, introduced in 2009, included the death penalty. the new version replaces the death penalty for certain homosexual acts with life in prison. and makes simply being viewed as promoting homosexuality a crime that could land someone in jail. >> now, parliament processes all these amendments. >> reporter: david bahati is the architect. is your aim to eradicate homosexuality completely by forcing people to stay silent or face a prison sentence? >> well, the aim is to make sure that we do protect the institution of marriage. and that stopping the promotion of homosexuality in our country.
if in the process that is achieved, that will be good for our society. >> reporter: that homosexuality be eradicated from society. >> that would be good for our society. >> reporter: do you respect other religious and individuals' right to practice another religion, other than christianity? >> yes. >> reporter: so why can't you respect another individual's differing sexual orientation? >> well, i don't think that homosexuality is a human right. >> reporter: now the lgb it fears it will become the target of an even broader witch hunt. arwa damon, cnn, compala. >> we received a statement from the defense secretary, john kerry, also condemning what's going on in uganda. this is a tragic day for uganda, kerry says, and for all who care about the cause of human rights. ultimately, the only answer is
repeal of this law. chuck hagel, we're told, is now walking into the press briefing room over at the pentagon, together with other aides, members of the joint chiefs of staff. he's going to be walking in momentarily. you know what, let's take a quick break. we'll await the secretary of defense and his announcement right after this.
all right, the defense secretary is just beginning his remarks. let's listen in. chuck hagel joined by other members of the joint chiefs of staff. >> our chiefs, our secretaries, who are here. as well as our comptroller and our acting assistant, or deputy secretary of defense, christine fox. for the work that they have put in over the last few months, in particular, to get us to this point, where we have a budget that we are going to present to the congress next week. i want to talk a little bit about that today. chairman dempsey will also add his remarks. but i am very grateful. i know president obama is very grateful to these men and women who have spent an awful lot of time, and the people that they represent and their services in putting this together.
i particularly want to note that the comptroller, bob hale, this will be his last budget, unless we call him back into duty after he goes to find an island somewhere. and doesn't return calls. but i am particularly appreciative of his willingness to stay through this budget, which was not an easy task for bob hale. you all know the kind of service he's given this country in this department for many, many years. and to bob hale, thank you, and to all of your team down there, we are grateful. today i'm announcing the key decisions that i have recommended to the president for the defense department's fiscal year 2015 budget and beyond. these recommendations will adapt and reshape our defense enterprise, so that we can continue to protecting this nation's security in an era of
unprecedented uncertainty and change. as we end our combat mission in afghanistan, this will be the first budget to fully reflect the transition dod is making for after 13 years of war. the longest conflict in our nation's history. we are repositioning to focus on the strategic challenges and opportunities that will define our future. new technologies, new centers of power and a world that is growing more volatile, more unpredictable, and in some instances more threatening to the united states. the choices ahead will continue our defense institutions for the years to come. chairman dempsey and i worked in a pragmatic and collaborative way to build a balanced force our nation must have for the future. i worked closely with the chairman, the vice chairman, service secretaries and service chiefs in developing these recommendations in a process that began with last summer's
strategic choices and management review. i also want to recognize today the senior enlisted leaders in each of the services for their contributions and their involvement and their leadership and what they continue to do every day for our country. but in particular, their help and input in crafting this budget. our recommendations were guided by an updated defense strategy that builds on the president's 2012 defense strategic guidance. as described in the upcoming quadrennial defense review report, this defense strategy is focused on defending the homeland against all strategic threats. building security globally by projecting u.s. influence and deterring aggression. and remaining prepared to win decisively against any adversary, should deter rent's fail. to fulfill this strategy, dod will continue to shift its
operational focus. sustained commitments to key allies and partners in the middle east and europe, maintain engagement in other regions and continue to aggressively pursue global terrorist networks. our reviews made two new realities very clear. first, the development and proliferation of more advanced military technologies by other nations. it means that we are entering an era where american dominance on the fees in the skies and space can no longer be taken for granted. second, defense spending is not expected to reach the levels projected in the five-year budget plan submitted by the president last year. given these realities, we must now adapt, innovate and make difficult decisions to ensure that our military remains ready and capable, maintaining its technological edge over all potential adversaries. however, as a consequence of large budget cuts, our future force will assume additional
risks in certain areas. in crafting this package, we prioritized dod's strategic interests and matched them to budget resources. this required a series of difficult choices. we chose further reductions in troop strength and force structure in every military service, active and reserve. in order to sustain our readiness and technological superiority. and to protect critical capabilities, like special operations forces and cyber resources. we chose to terminate or delay some modernization programs to protect higher priorities and procurement, research and development. and we chose to slow the growth of military compensation costs in ways that will preserve the quality of the all-volunteer force, but also free up critical funds needed for sustaining training readiness and modernization. before describing our specific recommendations, let me address
the fiscal realities and assumptions behind our decisionmaking. on march 1st, 20 -- >> so now the defense secretary is going to get into some of the financial aspects of this strategy that he just unveiled, the dramatic shift in some long-standing u.s. policies. let's assess what we just heard from the defense secretary, general george jauwan is here. what jumped out at me, all of a sudden now, and we have seen this in the works, the u.s. will shift its operational focus towards asia and pacific, away in effect, from europe and the middle east. you have been hearing hints of this. but now the defense secretary is saying there is real strategic interest in china, korea, japan, australia, out there, less so in the middle east and in europe. how is this going to play with our allies? >> particularly in europe, i think there is going to be concern.
believe it or not, i went through this when i went over there in 1993. i was told then we're going to the pacific rim. but all of the challenges we faced were in europe, the middle east. we cannot lose sight of our allies and friends that we've been with for so long in europe, the middle east and elsewhere. >> i know the president is going to saudi arabia next month. the saudis are pretty nervous right now about what's going on in their part of the world. this interim agreement with iran, for example, they're not very happy about it. the emirates, some of the other countries in the region -- the israelis certainly aren't thrilled by what's going on. they're pretty nervous. the prime minister of israel will be in washington next week to meet with the president, benjamin netanyahu. so how do you think they're going to react to this new strategic announcement? >> it's -- i think we're not going to lose our focus on what
our friends in europe and the middle east were. that's not going to happen. how much we deploy, whether we're going to have a large naval presence off the coast of the red sea and elsewhere -- >> with a fifth fleet in the red sea or sixth fleet in the mediterranean. >> we have been reducing -- >> but the argument is with drones and new -- you don't need all of the old-school hardware that we used to deal with these kind of issues. >> that's right. but i'm not sure how much we need in the pacific, as well. i think what you need to do is say, we also have to have capability to work with our friends and allies to deter conflict, not just to fight it, to prevent a crisis from becoming a conflict. all of that is at large in those areas -- >> one final question before i let you go, general. you've been very engineer rouse with your time. how concerned are you about this growing trend among some democrats and some republicans
for what we should call a more isolationist u.s. policy around the -- a retreat from commitments, traditional u.s. responsibilities around the world, bringing the troops home, not get involved. are you concerned about that? >> i've always been concerned about that. every time we have tried to do that -- and those are political questions and i'll let the politicians handle it. what we're responsible for as senior military is to give clear military advice of what that means. and i think the idea of abandoning some of our friends, i think, is fraught with danger. and i think we have to be very careful of that. we need leadership. military leadership, diplomatic leadership, political leadership, to ensure we can engage. it's not just the cost of money. it's our prestige as a nation and a quality of life that we want for ourselves and for our children. >> chuck hagel going on to announce significant cuts in troop levels and spending, very significant, as well. >> and at what risk? >> well, we'll have a lot of time to assess that.
general george joulwan, thanks for coming in. . >> thank you, wolf. up next, the threat of military intervention, at least some people see it, by russia. i'll talk live with the u.s. ambassador in kiev. stay with us. humans -- even when we cross our "t's" and dot our "i's," we still run into problems. that's why liberty mutual insurance offers accident forgiveness with our auto policies. if you qualify, your rates won't go up due to your first accident. because making mistakes is only human, and so are we. we also offer new car replacement, so if you total your new car, we give you the money for a new one. call liberty mutual insurance at... and ask us all about our auto features, like guaranteed repairs, where if you get into an accident and use one of our certified repair shops, your repairs are guaranteed for life.
take a quick look at how the markets are doing right now. the dow has erased january's losses, is back in record territory. today, there you see it, trading up 182 points right now. the big event for wall street this week is tough happening here in washington. janet yellen, new head of the federal reserve, will address the senate banking committee on thursday. what she says during -- about the economy that day, the future of the fed's stimulus plans, could have a major move on the markets. we'll keep an eye out for you on that, of course. if you're one of the more than 40 million americans who use netflix, you probably already know the frustration of
getting a buffering message while you're trying to stream a movie or a tv show. but now netflix is in a groundbreaking deal with comcast to help fix that, and change the landscape for how we use streaming video. alison kosik is joining us from the new york stock exchange. alis alison, the deal basically means that netflix will get its own bandwidth from comcast. tell us why this is such a major game-changer. >> reporter: okay. and this is a big game-changer, wolf, because this deal essentially means that you know, the movies and the tv shows that you get from netflix, they're going to be streamed a lot faster, because comcast is essentially allowing netflix to connect directly to its broadband network, instead of going through a middleman communications company as it did before. the "wall street journal" is reporting, though, that netflix will have to pay comcast for this. the arrangement not confirmed to cnn. here's the problem. the problem has been that the huge amount of bandwidth that netflix eats up -- netflix has
been called a data hog. and that amount of band width can account for as much as one-third of all u.s. broadband traffic at peak times. internet service providers, they wanted netflix to pay them for that, especially as we have seen these shows like "house of cards" and "orange is the new black." they keep soaring in popularity. more and more people keep watching them, and that need to sort of keep grabbing that bandwidth continues to grow. wolf? >> well, come cast is one cable provider. i assume this will put pressure on other cable providers to work out a similar deal with netflix. >> reporter: and that's a really good point. because, yeah, this comcast/netflix deal could set a precedent. the "wall street journal" reporting that netflix is also currently in talks with verizon. but you know what the big question is, who is going to pay for this? guess who. consumers. one analyst says companies, they're ultimately going to be compelled to raise their prices. no comment yet from either side of this. but think of it, like so many other bills we have to pay. the more we use, the more we have to pay.
whether it's our gas bill, water bill, electricity, or the phones that we use. but for now, if you're a netflix binge watcher and a comcast customer, you should be able to spend many long, relaxing hours on the couch without annoying delays. we're seeing that buffering. wolf? >> good point. alison, thanks very much. alison kosik reporting. up next, a new day in ukraine, but the threat of russian military intervention perhaps by vladimir putin. to some, it looms large. the u.s. ambassador to ukraine is standing by. we'll discuss what's going on when we come back. [ male announcer ] she won't remember this, being carried in your arms... but after a morning spent in the caribbean, playing pirates with you in secret coves, an afternoon swimming with dolphins, finished with a movie watched against the setting sun... she won't exactly be short on memories.
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"forbes" list of the 100 most wanted people. last year the chicago crime commission even called him, quote, public enemy number one. brian todd has been following this story for us. you're getting some new information on the operation to capture him, which came very dramatically. >> it really was dramatic, wolf. i just got off the phone with a mexican official who said this was a surgical, tactical operation and a couple details in addition to the ones that we have been reporting over the weekend. this official said they moved in that apartment in mazatlan, mexico, at 6:40 a.m., just before sunrise at that time in mazatlan. that this was a group of mexican marines attached to the mexican navy that carried out this operation. a couple things we have just learned, that there was an assault rifle near him at the time they moved in, but he didn't have time to pick it up. he was sleeping at the time that they moved in, along with his wife, and there was a body guard somewhere in the area, not sure if the body guard was in the
very same apartment or possibly in an adjoining apartment. but there was a body guard there who was arrested in the same operation with guzman. the body guard also had weapons, but this official said that nobody really had any time to pick them up and use them. that's why no shots were fired. another interesting detail we're told by this official, they just prior to this operation utilized infrared sensors and heat-seeking sensors to see basically through the walls of that apartment. and discern that he was sleeping. and that he was a little bit vulnerable at that moment. and that's when they moved in. so just some of these details are fascinating. >> so what happens to guzman next? is there any chance at all he would be extradited to the united states? because most of the crimes, i suspect, he committed were in mexico and not in the united states. >> well, that's something that's being worked out, we're told, between mexican and u.s. officials. that has not been decided yet. he did commit a lot of his crimes in mexico. his alleged crimes in mexico. he also allegedly trafficked a lot of drugs into chicago and
some other metropolitan areas. he's public enemy number one in chicago, as you mentioned. so what experts and officials are telling us is that things are being worked out now. extradition has not been decided yet. it could be, wolf, that he's tried first in mexico and then brought to the united states to possibly be tried. but, again, these are details that are really just working out. we're told right now he is in isolation, in a basement of a prison in mexico. he is not with the general prison population there. he is being watched 24/7. >> brian todd, thanks very much. i know you'll have more later in "the situation room,". we'll take a quick break. more top news after. this you run into traffic? no, just had to stop by the house to grab a few things. you stopped by the house? uh-huh. yea. alright, whenever you get your stuff, run upstairs, get cleaned up for dinner. you leave the house in good shape? yea. yea, of course. ♪ [ sportscaster talking on tv ] last-second field go-- yea, sure ya did. [ male announcer ] introducing at&t digital life. personalized home security and automation. get professionally monitored security for just $29.99 a month.
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. >> the nato commander checked in with the russian counterparts. we are talking about the situation in ukraine and possible russian military involvement. joining us on the phone is the ambassador to ukraine. mr. ambassador, thank you for taking a few moments out of your hectic schedule. dramatic developments and how concerned should all of us be that the russians might intervene militarily in ukraine? >> i guess what i say at this point is we believe that both russia and the united states and all of ukraine's neighbors have
a strong interest in stability and economic prosperity. we hope very much that they will play the long game and recognize and should say over the past couple of days over the acting president, they are also very focused on the relationship with moscow. >> who is in charge in kiev? >> you have the speaker of the area who is chosen for constitutional processes. he is also the acting president at this point. he is playing the role as the senior executive of the government. the political process has been moving relatively quickly and they have been passing laws and now somebody who is act being as interior minster.
he too has been thus far by the parliament and should emphasize that it's not just the opposition parties that are per tas pating. it's many people who parted ways with the president and are part of the party of regents. it seems like ukrainian politics is rebooting in a way that is good for democracy and good for stability here. >> what about the former president? he is now wanted for mass killings of civilians. do you know where he is? >> we don't. he is on the line at this point. it is important that those who are responsible for the terrible violence that took place last thursday and the shootings in the heart of this large european city that the people responsible for that be held accountable. i think the international community will be supportive of
ukraine's efforts to achieve justice. it's important to avoid retribution. the president is not to be found. >> there these reports that he's hiding out in the area of ukraine. you heard those reports. >> the ukrainian press has been full of speculation at this point, but the last place we're certain that he was in was when we were told he was on his way to north eastern ukraine. the truth is that we don't know where he is. at this point the speaker is acting in the role of president. >> we heard from our phil black, our correspondent that some of the supporters of the ousted regime have been calling the protesters nazis and referring to neonazi elements. how prevalent are they? these ultra nationalists in
ukraine right now. >> it's important that they represent a broad and democratic coalition. they expressed concerns about views that have come from some of the political parties that have been extremists, but i must say she played a constructively role of demonstrations. they expect to play role in new government. it was one of those who helped diffuse several of the key crisis points. >> is it relatively calm in kiev right now? >> it's relatively calm. it's important as the formal process over the next couple of days. we have been encouraging the authorities to build a brought multiparty technical government, but we have been counseling them
that the top priority is to restore stability. that means demobilizing the self defense forces and putting security responsibilities under the uniformed security institutions. it's remarkable today. i was at the cabinet ministry and there was an amalgam of both presidential forces and my defenders. i had never seen anything like it. >> ambassador, we appreciate you taking time. good luck to all of those on the ground in kiev and elsewhere right now. that's it for me. see you back in "the situation room" at 5:00 p.m. eastern. newsroom with brooke baldwin starts now. >> i'm brooke baldwin. we have a lot going on. we begin with the u.s. military. always been a last resort when it comes to budget cuts. not anymore. defense secretary chuck