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of what happened in those years in the 60s. thanks very much. be sure to watch it live. 9:00 p.m. pacific, "the sixties". "newsroom wi "newsroom" with brooke baldwin starts right now. >> we begin with veteran affairs and some news we have today. he now according to the white house may be on thin ice. now you have this growing list of senate democrats already having him in hot water.
a report says at least 1700 veterans in one hospital were never scheduled for an appointment. they were just not on the list. bullying by managers. >> you know, the question i asked myself is him resigning going to get us to the bottom of the problem? the real issue is the president that should be held accountable. >> in a couple of minutes we
will talk live with a veteran in phoen phoenix. we have mccain's response as well here. now that this disease thought to be nearlier rad kated in the united states is making an alarming return. a new report today shows 288 cases of measles this year. and it's just may. compare that to ten years ago when the cdc says there were only 7 million cases of measles in the u.s. for the entire year. the disease is easily preventable with a childhood vaccine but nearly half of these cases are people who never got that shot. complicating the problem is that measles have been so rare for so
long that most doctors have ner never treated a case. students joined what is called the paddle out. his writings about rejection by society and women indicate this kill kill killer prove that he was unstable. jeopardy winner arthur chew, a self-professed nerd wrote this. i have heard elliot roger's voice before. i was expecting his manifesto to be incomprehensible madness. it's a standard frustrated geeky guy manifesto except for the part about mass murder. it was an incredible piece.
very real and honest piece. as you say as you are a self-professed nerd, can you explain why this shooting hit you so strongly so personally? >> it's the fact that this is a script that we have all heard before. you know, i think every guy who has struggled with fitting into society, with feeling excloeded, we locate a lot of that in women. we look at rejection by women as being this huge significant thing in our lives. i was inspired to write the piece by this hash tag yes all women where a lot of women began just spontaneously sharing stories about how no, mass shootings don't happen every day but this kind of language, this kind of logic of entitlement, men thinking they have the right to something and acting out in
violence when they don't get it, that's part of lots of people's lives and we need to think about that and. >> it is interesting. i keep hearing you say we. you say you have no nerdy male stalkers. 6. >> when something is the way that's always been or you have been taught. you look at it and you feel it is terrible. you don't feel moved to take action. >> the normal? when you say the normal, you're going beyond the nerdy guy who not just fixates hot -- i know
that we saw that happen, you know? other people saw that happen. we all have stories of seeing something is not right about the situation or hearing account. but it's not my business so i will stay out of it. that's how you get stories of horrible abuse, child abuse, abuse of partners. stalking, harassment, that goes on for a long, long time. >> i will get to your point at the very end, the message to all of us.
you point out steve erkyl. but you can't blame hollywood. no one makes them watch the shows. that's just wrong of you. >> i'm not looking to blame. i'm not going to put anyone on trial. i don't think the point is to find out who's at fault. hollywood doesn't control our society. our society controls hollywood. >> you can't do it by banning movies or yelling at film makers.
what do i need to address in my attitude? >> in the adjusting, i have to get this here. you end your piece with what did roger elliot need. he didn't need to get laid. when i was a bleep, getting laid would not have helped me. he needed to grow up. we all do. how did you grow up. >> that's the million dollar question. >> i don't know how to help elliot roger. the first thing is to listen. listen to women and their perspective. the whole thing is he talked for 140 pages about himself. it's striking. >> it's beyond striking. i loved the genuineness and can
candor in your piece. thank you so much for coming on with me. appreciate it. >> malaysian airlines missing flight 370, remember when authorities said they were very confident that pings picked up in the area of the southern indian ocean were the missing plane's black boxes? about that? a u.s. navy official telling cnn that the pings were not from the black boxes at all. authorities now believe that the sound came from some other man made source unrelated to the jet liner. translation, this underwater drone was a waste of time, money, and it searched the wrong
area. i tell you when i read that word discounted. >> whoa. >> that's what they're saying. >> i'm taking you to task. they were working with the best information with the best information at the time. they have searched it and realized they were in the wrong place. when they heard the pings it was at the endurance limit of the aircraft's fuel supply. they were searching in that area for a reason. they then heard the pings they passed it on to the australian
center for excellence that agrees. now you tell me what would you have them doing. >> and they had families searching for answers so they do it. the australians are saying they believe it's in that vicinity. the search is going to be expanded and that's why they are going over the ground. that's why they're going to put
it out. the level of monday morning quarterbacking that goes to this search that clearly was wrong and failed doesn't hold up baring in mind the intensity to get the thing underway. >> they will be searching the ground for a few more months and then out to tender. here's the really bad news. the australians say it could take up to 10 months for a newly defined area to be searched. >> thank you. we will wait until then. just ahead here, the number of democrats calling on the veteran affairs secretary to resign is now rising by the hour. my next guest said he tried to warn you will hear from this man
chemistry teacher turned meth dealer, walter white, anyone? >> power washer. this is why you just take a second and talk about all this? >> yeah, yeah. sure. yeah. >> but long before actor brian cranston became the megastar he spent years honing his craft on stage. we sat down today. three whole blogs. you and i have been talking about. he is going to come to cnn.
they were like you have to go. >> i'm nerdy times two. i had two of them and i gave you my other one. i wish it were on television so that our audience could watch it. it's such a limited run. it's ending at the end of june. >> was there anything specific along the way? >> are you baiting me? >> i'm so baiting you right now. >> eating and belching at the same time. i need them slacks because my weight goes up and down in the white house and i need a little more room there between my nut
sack and my bung hole. that got through. >> it totally got through the censors. you're good to go. >> and i thought oh my good that's the president of the united states talking. i need more room there. and i need about an inch longer in the pockets so my knife doesn't fall out. the president of the united states carries a knife in case he needs to whittle something. >> that was like the opening scene. i finally saw the play. >> it's a great play. it's like a history lesson that is awesome. a little bit of prosthetics but not a whole lot. that is just all him. >> mlk and their relationship then and civil rights. it's a phenomenal play. you also asking him, you had this whole conversation how he wanted to be a cop when he was
16. talked about working on his grandfather's farm and that's when he learned that work ethic that he so embodies today. >> he was sent off to live on the grandparent's farm like you said. this could have gone a big other direction. man did that guy ever see the positive in life. he loved working with the egg collection on the farm. he enjoyed that. he actually did the training. and ultimately he ended up in an acting class where the girls were hot. >> and that's how we got walter white. i'm sure you're posting the whole interview on cnn.com. >> wait. wait. no, no, no. you have got to listen. he said walter white might not
>> you senators al franken. >> he is a veteran of the air force who lives in arizona. he is a president of the naacp and a member of the board of the national naacp. welcome. >> thank you. >> let's begin with just your personal story. you have been dealing with the delays and issues with that va facili facility. tell me what happened. how many times you went to this va facility.
what did you not get? >> i quit going to the va facility because the treatment and the way you're dealt with there. i started going. i was very, very fort nate. i refuse to go to the va although i am a disabled veteran. they have to deal with and shake it to the side. it's frustrating. >> what were the complaints.
>> let's talk about way back when. i know this is incredibly serious business. you, yourself, and i have copies of your letter here to eric shinseke and to senator john mccain. tell me what you said to them. raising the red flag. >> number one, i never got a chance to get a written response from sinseke's office. i even went to my washington bureau and they gave me some numbers to call. i talked to some people in the office and they gave me a bunch of we're look into it. ultimately when i went to senator mccain, sent him the whole package along with other
congre congressmen and senators, i got a letter that someone sent say saying they were going to respond to me. that didn't happen. the only thing i have not spoken ultimately, i quit calling when a young man that i spoke to a young man asked me do you know who our secretary is, that is what you have been reading. i have the copy of the letter. >> i know you didn't get a response from sinseke or mccain. this is the statement that they have released with your story. senator mccain's office acted immediately and appropriately. any attention is flatly untrue.
our offering to meet to discuss his concerns. it is bizarre and unfortunate that reverend tillman would try to turn this into a partisan issue. did you receive that issue from sharon helman? >> i spoke to a black history program. i totally let them know what i felt about the va with her sitting there. it is only after later down the road when senator mccain's letter got to her or whomever.
frustrated. >> forgive me. my ear piece is popping out of my ear. can you explain how you know that or how you have proof of that? >> people that trust me even gave me documentation that i have in my hand that i carry with me and keep it in the safe when i'm not there because the fact is that even by job description and how they got their jobs, i have that documentation. so the thing about it is that's the reason i sent the letter to sinseke because i was hoping that if i could get him or his office to look into the way the employees are being treated, if the employees are not being
treated fairly, you think they will treat me fairly? no. >> this is fixing the problem. >> he's not doing the job. so what he should be out of there. he should have been out of there. as a matter of fact, once when i called his office and spoke to a legal person, i have her name, i said get a janitor. get anybody to call to make it appear that you care what's going on there. >> a janitor? >> that didn't happen. all calls were made through my office, not theirs and shinseke
should go. if he's mad, tell him that we're mad, there. i have a son that was a desert storm, another one that was afghanistan and a daughter-in-law that was in iraq. i have served my time and i'm sick of saying the way we have being treated here. >> i hear the anger in your voice. thank you for your time. >> thank you very much. >> just ahead, insurgents say an american has carried out a suicide attack inside of syria? how did he get there and recruited to the front lines? >> and michael bloomberg set to give the commencement address at harvard and it's expected to be pretty fiery, we're hearing. many students in cambridge, they
i guess we can laugh. i'm going to guess i have never seen somebody do this. no one has ever seen this before. >> this was one of the best side shows in such a big do or die game that really i have ever seen that pretty much anyone has ever seen. >> that's a no, no. you know what else is a big no, no. getting in the other team's huddle. oh yeah.
lance actually goes over and gets in the other team's huddle. the miami coach is like what are you doing buddy? get out of here. pushes him out of there. but this is just lance being lance. but the ear blowing thing, everybody wanted to talk about this. and cnn's own rachel nick ols, she asked lebron james if he had ever considered the ear blowing as defensive tactics. >> have either one of you thought about blowing in someone's ears as defensive tactics? >> i blew in my wife's ear before. that was definitely a defensive tactic. >> was it a defense attack? >> it was. but you can see it was a little uncomfortable. it really did get into his head. >> he did handle it in the pro.
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>> and an american travels abroad following a passion in syria. that passion is allegedly this. syri syrian insurgents say that attacks on sunday was carried out by this man, and that man is an american. he likely has an american connection though u.s. authorities are not sure he was in fact a u.s. citizen. it is believed this would be the
first time an american has been known to carry out this kind of attack in the syrian civil war. bobby, welcome to you. seeing this, this is a huge deal. how exactly does an american allegedly end up there on the front lines in syria. >> it is remarkably easy. hundreds of foreign fighters from all over the western world have been flooding into syria usually via turkey where the border is pretty open for people going into syria to join the fight there. many of them are joining secular forces. an al qaeda linked group claims
this guy. the name sounds like a pseudonym. they are claiming this man is an american citizen. that's how they are getting there physically. a lot of people are watching. there is an enormous body of visit owe sid zen journalism. a lot of people are emotionally roused by that. a lo of people want to fight against that. simply the objective of fighting back against the regime. there will always be a small number. last year we heard up to 70 american fighters was involved.
that would be basically, either go there with religious motivations or go there to fight for secular motivations that gradually evolve and join a more religious group. there has been a hard push by the administration to get him out of power but he has not moved. we have heard this before in libya. is it more the devil you know versus the devil you don't? very disturbing pictures. forces and essentially retaken the city. it looks like something out of the movies.
the level of war as our story shows. at this point they are exkaused. this has gone on for nor man three years. a lot of people on both sides want nothing more than to go back to normal. that actually helps assad. that's what he is selling to people. that he can restore normal. >> we will be reading your piece. coming up, michael bloomberg set to give the commencement address at harvard today. sit is a speech that is expected to get fiery. a lot of the students don't want him there at all. that is coming up. quiet! mom has a headache! had a headache! but now, i& don't. excedrin is fast. in fact for some, relief starts in just 15 minutes.
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>> the outrage is palpable. claims of sexual harassment and pullying by managers. all of this coming in. >> the primary objective that the president has with each of them is to ensure that we're doing everything we can to right whatever wrongs have occurred when it comes to providing timely service and benefits to our veterans. >> well, now one of those
investigations is going nationwide and on top of that, it seems like every hour we're getting a new press release on the other side of the aisle calling for him to resign. drew, as you well know, the scandal is widening. the scandal is growing. >> for what the inspector general called a systemic problem and detailing schemes by va administration to hide these wait list numbers and the political crisis is growing.
i feel like i'm in a time warp where everything keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger and nothing is getting resolved. >> really, just doing his job, choosing his words very carefully when it comes to status and feelings among those at the white house. drew, if he does resign. >> he has known about those problems almost the entire time. these are not new issues or certainly shouldn't be new issues to the va's administration. now let's step back. maybe we have a really really
great general. fought for this country. injured twice in combat in vietnam. great guy. perhaps not a great leader of a bureaucratic administration for the government. >> with everything that came out just yesterday, what surprised you the most? >> i think what surprised me the most is the details. it showed us that the va administration knew a month ago
that in phoenix there were at least 1100 veterans who thought they were going to get care and were not in line to get any care. so those are veterans who have delayed care. now the report comes out that the number is actually 1700. right? and the administration is vowing to, by the end of this week, see all 1700 of them. why didn't they say that a month ago when they knew 1100 were waiting for care? it's this delay in care and delay in response that is just unreal to me. >> drew griffin, thank you. keep digging. keep pushing. thank you so much for joining me. now this.
>> this was written to richard martinez. those words were written by the father of daniel barden, one of the 20 children gunned down at sandy hook elementary school. mark barden goes on to say this to richard martinez quoting him, you are not alone. it has helped me and some of the other family members to come together and advocate for common sense solutions. and i should point out another dad is also reaching out pubically, the dad of the rampage killer. peter roger and his ex-wife just released a statement and their friend spoke to chris cuomo. >> they have literally cut down in size, they have diminished in standing. they walk slowly. their conversation is stilted.
they are mourning the innocence that didn't come back to their families on friday night. they are not mourning their son. he is not part of their conversation. >> the family has a statement that they want you to get out also. is that true? >> that's true. thank you. we are crying in pain for the victims and their families. it breaks our hearts on a level that we didn't think possible. the feeling of knowing that it was our son's actions that caused the tragedy can only be described as hell on earth. it is now our responsibility to do everything. to help avoid this happening to any other family. >> and when he met elliot, that elliot seemed like the loneliest person in the world.
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an amish group left to go to the philippines. you have a whole bunch of unvaccinated people and they brought it back. it's the travel, unvaccinated people are a danger enough in this country and then you send them to the philippines where there is rampant measles, it's a terrible vaccination. >> so what should people be doing? should people vaccinate their kids? >> everyone should vaccinate their children. i say that with the strength of all sorts of studies. people should vaccinate their children. the scarry thing is that even if you do the right thing and you vaccinate your children, you could still have problems because babies are too young to get vaccinated. babies don't usually get vaccinated until 1-year-old. even if you fully intend to vaccinate your child, if your
child happens to run into one of these people who has not been vaccinated and has the measles, you could be in trouble. you just have a baby. if i were living in one of these communities where there was a lot of this, i would be careful about who my baby was with. you can vaccinate before 1 year. i would talk to the pediatrician about doing that. not every adult was fully vaccinated. >> next. back to square one in thor the ch for flight 370? investigators now say it is not in the area they have been searching. what is next? we will ask. >> also forbes has released its list of the most powerful women. hillary clinton, oprah winfrey, michelle obama not on their top five. hear who beat them out.
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from the missing plane. >> if we knew that the pings were not correct, that they were not coming from the aircraft, which i have heard from some people on the ship, why did they continue that search. we have talked about that. you don't want to be left saying we don't think it is so we're not going to search any more. you owe something to the families to continue to search. but why didn't they say look, let's get other equipment out there instead of waiting until now. >> so there is that, dotting the i's crossing the tst.
>> as we follow up on that, since i have you, i would love to ask you here about these multiple close calls back here at home with planes in the sky. investigators say they asked the flight to perform a go around to avoid the collision but both planes ended up veering in the same direction coming within a quarter mile. what can the faa do about that. >> the faa can start to get more intent that the atrophy of the controllers. the more that people rely on automake, they have done a lot to improv the automation to try to prevent human error.
it's hard to see behaviors and thing things they just don't think as clearly. i think their training needs to be examined. >> how about that? makes me nervous. coming up next. this will lift your spirits. this young woman, i'm about to talk live with this woman on the cusp of super stardom. taylor townsend. do you know who she is? you're about to. tomorrow she could make history. she's joining me live from paris coming up. don't miss her. go, we thought, "wow, how is there no way to tell the good from the bad?" so we gave people the power of the review. and now angie's list is revolutionizing local service again. you can easily buy and schedule services from top-rated providers. conveniently stay up to date on progress.
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>> so excited to talk to this young woman. she is taylor townsend who is all of 18 years of age and just pulled off a major upset to win her first grand slam. now she advances to the open. but the road for this young woman has at times been a little bumpy but she has not let that deter her whatsoever. joining me from paris, hello. congratulations. >> hi. thank you. >> so i was reading a little bit about you today, taylor, from those in tennis, names you would recognize. >> i like the last one. i feel great. it's really good to be talking to you and i'm really excited.
i'm glad that you guys are watching and everything. but i have got a big match tomorrow. >> i know and we're going to get to that. but can we back up and get to this road to greatness. for those who don't know you, when you were 16 on the cusp of greatness, suddenly the usa comes to you and says what? >> i'm pretty sure you know what they said. >> i want to hear it from you. what did they say? >> basically that i shouldn't have played the u.s. open because they thought i was out of shape. but it was actually due to a health condition that we did not know about. >> what did you say to that when you first heard that? >> i was really upset and i cried. and i just didn't know what was
happening. >> your mom paid for your travel? >> my mom and we also had a fund raiser in chicago with a lot of these people that i grew up playing with. and my coach came out and he helped put that together and i did a clinic with a lot of kids and stuff. we found a way. >> taylor, do you see yourself shattering stereo types of what
the world thinks a tennis player should look like? >> yeah. i guess. i mean, serena's not a small girl either. she has a beautiful figure. venus is not small. i mean, she's taller. i'm short. i'm not skinny. so, i think so, but i'm just trying to do the best i can for me. everyone is different and that's really what i have learned out of this whole thing that i'm not going to be the same as everybody else and i'm different and my -- the things that i thought maybe were bad, they are actually turning out to be very good things. i'm happy. >> i will tell you, i'm about six feet tall and not a size four and i say good for you. i say i'm curious if you have talked to venus and serena. they definitely burst on to the scene and they didn't look like what one would think and they have killed it. have you had any conversations with them? >> yeah, i talked to them quite
a bit actually. they're very nice and i am happy they were able to take time out and talk to me. >> what did they tell you? >> well, they kind of have just talked to me here and there. i think over the first time that i met them they were just trying to get to know me. they know what i did in the juniors. they were asking me what my plans were. i was really scared. i was like oh my god, these people are winning grand slams and stuff. venus was like don't push the panic button when you're in the matches. my guess is she had watched me play. it has helped me a lot. serena has really given me good tips and kind of ideas.
>> taylor, what do you want the world to know about you. >> i can dance. as you can see. >> can i get a letting nene right now. >> you want one right now? >> bring it. >> are you sure? are you ready? >> i am so ready. ladies and gentlemen, live from paris, about to do the victory dance. >> oh my god. okay. here we go. >> you are phenomenal. good luck. we wish you well. good luck tomorrow. all right? thumbs up for you. thank you so much and safe
melinda gates, janet yellen and number one, german chancellor has been number one nine times. first lady michelle obama was number eight. here with me now is the publisher of forbes woman. nice to have you on. >> thanks for having me. >> so, pretty impressive list here. how do you all sit at the table and come up with the top five? >> well, an extraordinary group of women to look at around the world. this year we looked at women across eight different categories like business, finance, politics, and the like. we looked at these women and ranked them in three different areas. money. how much are they earning or influencing or controlling? we also looked at media. how often are they part of or driving the global dialogue. that includes social media. which is a huge fundamental
change in how we lookpower. how are these women leveraging their influence across multiple spheres to impact the world in a positive way. >> it is really an advancing the cause of empowering. >> when women are emerging and descending around the world. when we first started the list it was a lot of firsts. the first woman to have a multimillion dollar corporation. that is no longer the case. we had 18 women who founded their own businesses or their own foundations. we also had nine self-made female billionaires with a total
net worth of $49 billion. we are seeing a snapshot in time. it is a great set of role models. >> phenomenally phenomenal women to quote the late maya angelou. >> michael bloomberg giving the commencement address at harvard. let's look at some live pictures from cambridge, massachusetts. he is expected to be pretty fiery in his remarks directed at students who disagree with that choice. did he go too far? we will debate that next. honestly, the off-season isn't i've got a lot to do. that's why i got my surface. it's great for watching game film and drawing up plays.
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we like to think that the principle of separation of church and state is settled. it is not and it never will be. it is up to us to guard it fiercely and to ensure that equality under the law means equality under the law for everyone. if you want the freedom to worship as you wish, to speak as you wish, and to marry whom you wish, you must tolerate my freedom to do so or not to do so as well. what i do may offend you. you may find my actions immoral or unjust but attempted to restrict my freedoms in ways that you would not restrict your own leads only to injustice. we cannot deny others the rights and privileges that we demand for ourselves. and that is true in cities and it is no less true at
universities where the forces of repression appear to be stronger now, i think, than they have been at any time since the 1950s. when i was growing up, u.s. senator -- yes, you can applaud. [ applause ] >> yes, you can applaud so says the former mayor of new york city. we just rolled into that at the perfect time. he's speaking live at harvard specifically there addressing his own freedom of speech saying to this group of students here, hey, what i have to say may offend you but try and restrict my freedoms and not your own is absolutely unjust. so, you see the crowds here, no surprise. he ignored the cries of some of the harvard students who didn't want him there to give the commencement address. a group of students opposed bloomberg's support of stop and frisk, which seemed to discriminate against minorities.
we can tell you in the bigger context of things three other speakers ducked out this past spring. that's a list including condoleezza rice. rutgers students didn't want to hear from her. students accused her of supporting systems that suppressed women. another had to back out because of police induced brutality. it's not just mayor bloomberg who maintained his commitment to speak but a number of others. is bullying the right word? buy them. they don't want and they don't agree with on their big day.
>> welcome to both of my guests. >> good afternoon. >> i love to begin with you. i hope you heard just quickly what mayor bloomberg was saying. he is essentially in talking about his freedom of speech, he is essentially speaking to students such as yourself. what's your response? >> i think it's really important to distinguish the freedom of speech of a person to speak at commencement and their privilege in speaking at commencement. there is no public official who has the right to give a commencement speech. that is an honor and the protests are not trying to protest against a speaker's freedom of speech to speak. i don't think any students are opposed but having them as a commencement speaker is a proclamation that that speaker
embodies all the values that the speaker aspires to. we are it comes down to their val lous and what they represent. >> ben, go ahead. >> i think we need to assume dropouts as those that never went to college, never created anything, never did anything in their life and then, better yet, we'll cancel it so no one gets offended. this is the problem that i have with activism on campus now. i say, go ahead and move 20 years down the road and look at your career and see if it was perfect and everyone is accepting of it and let's see if you go back and do something with your life. bloomberg has. i don't know if i agree with him politically. but to say that you're a perfect person to be honored or to have the ability to do this i think is a little bit unrealistic and
they are protesting these people and they don't want them to speak and they are trying to silence them and they are trying to get them to be kicked out of their university. so it is freedom of speech that you are, in essence, protesting a little bit. >> amani, i want you to respond to that. but you helped organize this protest. you found out that condoleezza rice was going to be there and you were successful because she bowed out. what is it about condoleezza rice that so bothered you? >> well, to start off, it's really not about freedom of speech or a successful career. what is success if it's used to violate civil rights. >> let's stay with condoleezza rice. tell me about her. >> i protested against condoleezza rice because it was made for the same reason. we felt that she was violating international law. she was one of the first
officials to approve waterboarding that violated international law yet she was invited to speak at our university and being honored with an honorary degree of law. that was completely unheard of. again, we are not trying to get perfect personalities to speak at our commencements. we're trying to get moral ones and i absolutely do not feel that it's unrealistic. >> the pushback would be, shouldn't -- when you're in college, that's a diversity of thought. you're required to take myriad courses to figure out what you want to focus on. you're friends with folks from all different walks of life. why shouldn't a commencement speaker, whether you agree with her or not, why should that be different? >> it doesn't come down to political opinions. her actions destroyed an entire not free speech. this is about what their actions
agree and mayor bloom eberg and policies in the commencement speech. and let me ask you a question. >> if condoleezza rice is someone and bloomberg on two major extremes on the outside politically -- >> amani, who would you have? >> honestly, it does not come down to a name. it's up to the students themselves. >> give me an example. >> like i said, part of the problem is transparency. students should have the ability to express their voices and avenues that don't have to come down to protests. >> look, this is the problem i have with this campus activism that we're watching right now unravel around the country at these campuses. i asked you for an example of someone that would be acceptable. you don't have one. it just wants to go out there
and get in the sun and act like you have this intense power to stop someone and others have as women but you can't give me one example of a person that you would find acceptable and this is campus activism that i don't understand because there's not anybody that you can say right now and how do i get behind you on this. >> we talked so much about millennials and at least we can get amani and others credit because they are seen as lazy and she's got it. maybe she can't name someone. maybe she can tomorrow but i appreciate the discussion. >> it doesn't come down to a name. >> it was just a question. amani, thank you for joining me. ben ferguson, appreciate your perspective. we'll be right back.
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