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attention. all of that affection may have helped chrome. >> just came naturally to him. >> reporter: and here on the farm everybody believes chrome will take the crown. >> it is amazing it is coming about the way it is. and we think there is at least one more very successful chapter to him. >> very nice, here is another c, cooper, anderson cooper starts right now. good evening, thank you for joining us. on this day in which we remember the bravery of the men who stormed the beaches at normandy 70 years ago, tonight we remember the story of the soldier who ignited claims. now, we have heard all sorts of claims about sergeant bowe bergda bergdahl, the circumstances under which he disappeared, what happened in captivity, and even the beard he grew. and there are plenty of
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questions about the trading of the five guantanamo bay detai e detainees. and questions about how bergdahl himself found himself in the hands of the taliban. many in cable news don't like to admit when we don't know all the facts at hand. pundits are paid to have all the facts at hand, the truth is we don't have all the facts. a number of soldiers came forward and said he deserted the army. it is important to hear from bergdahl himself, and important to know the facts. this week there have been a lot of thin and highly questionable reporting. the source on that particular story is described as secret documents prepared on the basis of a purported eyewitness account from a private intelligence firm run by a former cia officer, this
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gentleman. mr. claridge was indicted for lying to congress during the iran contra affair. and purporting of eyewitness accounts. now, the facts into his disappearance suggest that he certainly was not soldier of the year material. and public statements by those who severe e served with him ag important voices, but this is a life at stake, and we would all do best to know all the facts before we judge. barbara starr has more. >> reporter: army sergeant bowe bergdahl was physically abused during his five years in captivity by the taliban. after his escape, he was put in a cage or box, a senior u.s. official tells cnn. one indicator of an injury, a classified video of bergdahl made by the taliban last
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december included scenes where he is cradling his arm. bergdahl is also suffering from psychological traumas, the official tells cnn. bergdahl's captivity conditions changed over time as the taliban loosened or tightened security around him. they also moved him frequently to avoid detection by the u.s. the top u.s. military commander told christiane amanpour that bergdahl is not yet being formally questioned. >> i wouldn't say he is being debriefed yet, what we're concentrating on is his health. he has been in a very tough place for a long time. >> reporter: sources say that bergdahl is psychologically able to speak with his parents but has not yet done so. with the army opening a new review into what happened the pentagon is getting more cautious in their public statements. >> we really have to get a chance to talk to sergeant bergdahl before we can pre-judge
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on the specifics of what his captivity was like. >> reporter: since the vietnam war p.o.w.s have returned, they have evaluated the physical effects of captivity on military personnel and found generally good news. >> they need to realize that there is life after being a p.o.w. that most people bounce back, that bouncing back is largely a choice. >> and barbara starr joins us now at the pentagon. do we know now what the backup plan was? >> well, you know we talk about the backup plan. what if it had all gone wrong? when that helicopter came in you still look at that video. you understand they were doing that on one-hour notice. we know now that right up until the last minute they were still talking to the taliban getting the exact instructions where to go. the backup plan, what if it had gone wrong? what if those taliban had started shooting? we know that there was
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surveillance aircraft overhead. they had eyes on every one of those taliban. and those troops on the ground starting with those standing right next to the helicopter were prepared, we're told fully prepared to engage in combat, grab bowe bergdahl, make a run for it. backup forces would have come in very quickly, anderson. >> the proof of life video, is that something that may be made public? >> there is a lot of discussion in the senate about doing it. they have showed it to them. it is classified. it shows an american military member in captivity in very questionable circumstances, of course. whether that is exploiting him to any extent, whether they want hm to get better. whether there is a sense it would violate his privacy, that is what we're beginning to hear. >> all right, thank you, barbara starr, thank you for the update.
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president obama on the decision. >> it was a unanimous decision, my principals in my government and the view that was shared by the members of the joint chiefs of staff. and this is something i would do again. and i will continue to do wherever i have an opportunity if i have a member of our military who is in captivity. we're going to try to get them out. >> joining is now is david road who spent seven months in captivity. former navy s.e.a.l. and former hostage coordinator during the war in baghdad. and we're hearing more about what bergdahl attempted to do, attempted to escape, held in cage-like conditions. again, there is still so much we don't know. and to judge this guy without all the facts just seems inappropriate, doesn't it to you? >> well, where he was held and i was held, the tribal areas, it
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is famously difficult to get material. and some are telling this information to foreigners. afghans have been doing this for century, spinning tales and making money from it. a majority of reports that came out about me from the tribal areas turned out to be wrong. and throughout my captivity, they told my wife, anyone who says they know exactly where he is, did not know. >> when we hear about private intelligence firms operating, getting information on their own they're basically paying people, locals for information. and you're saying in your case the information that those private groups were spinning were not correct? >> yes, and some of this information could, about bergdahl could be correct. and some of these groups are
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trying to do a good job. and it is so difficult to sort through which anecdote, which tribe, which source is true. it is incredibly difficult for anyone, a private contractor and even intelligence officials. >> dan, you know, early on when we first spoke what you particularly focused on was the idea of this rose garden ceremony. this rose garden celebration. and i think a lot of people see your point on that. have you over this past week, i mean, how do you see this all now the way it is played out over the past week? >> again, i'm sticking to my guns on this because i spent two years in iraq dealing with this. we did negotiate behind the scenes. in fact it was never -- we had maybe one or two cases where the embassy was approached in some of these incidents. for the most part it is all done in cutouts. what i will say, david is right, there is a lot of spinoffs, multiple information put out there for pay, and what not.
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i found out in iraq, with the u.s. troops all the capability of the u.s., and the power, special ops included, but i found out over the years after i left and kept briefing the private security companies, that a lot of these major cases that we were tracking but not really following they were being resolved in the private sector. exactly the network you're talking about earlier, david's case in particular. so you would be surprised that 90% or more of kidnaps around the world, they are solved by these private sector security companies that frankly have in my experience in iraq, they have better intelligence than our intelligence community. that is just a fact. i can go into more detail than that. i am trying to make the point don't discredit the private sector network because those are the guys that solve most of the kidnappings in the world. >> i would just like to say there was a private firm,
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private sector firm that helped in my case. the reports they gave throughout were false. i went out -- we were shocked several weeks afterwards where they started claiming things. and their version of events didn't match up what happened on the ground. and it seemed partly an effort to make more money. you know, i have written the truth in my story. and there are a lot of rumors out there but i know in my case the information was not accurate. >> david you wrote an op-ed about the situation and the families, tuck about all of that. >> it is just very difficult. they feel a tremendous responsibility with their loved one if they're somehow supposed to meet these demands. but when it is a jihadist group where they are wanting transactions with prisoners, they have no control. and governments are exchanging prisoners, israel gave away a thousand prisoners. and it is really difficult for them. some of these cases are kept
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secret. we're advised by contractors to do that. and the result of that is that there is very little pressure on the u.s. government because there are people today who are kidnapped. it is not public, but there is no pressure on the u.s. to act. so it is incredibly difficult and there needs to be a coordinated approach from all of these countries about how to deal with these cases. bowe bergdahl was held so long, i was held because pakistan was not securing these territories where they have the safe haven. >> and david, when you talk about the parents and focusing on them, how they look, does that -- what do you make of that? >> well, listen, again i try to focus we're going to get bergdahl's stories as they come out. and right now, i am not going to get into the weeds on that. but the response today is immaterial. his father grew his beard. to say i'm not going to shave until my son comes home. his beard was as long as bowe
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bergdahl's father. i don't read into that too much. because listen if i was a father, a parent would do anything to get their son or daughter back so i'm not going to pass judgment on them. i can't imagine, i sat down with hundreds of iraqi families in particular who had a husband or a son or a daughter kidnapped. so trust me, i know what the family is going through. and i counsel these families. i helped in the negotiation strategies on many local cases. so you know i'm not passing judgment because i know the horror and terror of what they faced. so you're going to get no arm chair quarterbacking from me on that point. because a family would do anything to get their son or daughter back or uncle or father. >> dan, i appreciate you -- >> that is a fact. >> i appreciate you being on again tonight, and david road, stick around. i want to talk a little more about the allegations being aimed, some of them being aimed at bergdahl and his family. and the hometown, actually
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cancelling the homecoming. and later, my interview with the former navy s.e.a.l. marcus latrell, and his perspective on sergeant bergdahl and what he may have gone through. >> i understand the fear, i saw when he was in the back of that truck and i looked into his eyes i remember that look. i had it. i mean, it is the unknown. you are thinking what is going on here. i'm your buddy. i'm your team mate. i specialize in what i do, and i care about my clients call us for a mortgage experience that's engineered to amaze. you know that dream... on my count. the one where you step up and save the day? make it happen. (crowd) oh no... introducing verizon xlte. hey guys, i got it right here! we've doubled our 4g lte bandwidth in cities coast to coast.
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welcome back, keep in mind that we simply do not have a full picture of bowe bergdahl's disappearance or even his character. there are pictures painting him at the outset in glowing terms, with reports documenting him in prior instances leaving his base. why did national security adviser rice say he served with quote, honor and distinction? >> i realize there is a lot of controversy and discussion around this. what i was referring to was this is a young man who volunteered to serve his country in uniform during a time of war. that is in itself a very honorable thing. >> but honor and distinction? >> jim, really, this is a young man whose circumstances we are still going to learn about. he is as all americans, innocent until proven guilty. he is now being tried in the court of public opinion after
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having gone through enormously traumatic five years of captivity. his parents, the same. >> that trauma was supposed to give way to something better especially in his hometown. instead, hailey, idaho, turns a apprehensive. now the backlash is getting ugly and taking aim at hailey. >> reporter: this moment was supposed to be an emotional triumph for bergdahl's hometown of halley, idaho. >> it is extreme sadness that we're not allowed or not able to have this event for bowe. to welcome him back to the community. this was something to honor him and we can't do that now, not at this time. >> reporter: o'neal and her family were supposed to celebrate the area where he played as a child.
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last year on the fourth anniversary of bergdahl's capture, o'neal organized the support. his family was overwhelmed. >> it is my privilege to know bowe more than anyone else, as a father and man i will defend his character until the day i die. >> reporter: o'neal says the town of hailey was flooded with more than 3,000 requests for protester permits for the celebration as well as nasty threats or e-mails. the event was cancelled because of security concerns and bowe bergdahl's parents are remaining out of sight. and how were his parents taking it? >> they were upset, i think in a way it was shocking to them that we were not able to do that for their son. he has not been able to talk. so i think they're pretty saddened by it all. >> reporter: while the yellow ribbons proclaiming bowe free at last, the angry e-mails pour in.
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one woman wrote, if your town can still welcome this traitor home you're not part of the u.s. that i am. and in another e-mail, they spoke of a ceremony honoring bergdahl would be a great stain on our community. the town's editorial lashed out at them. the editorial says the backlash against bergdahl has surprised many. what kind of reaction have you gotten? >> we had a lot of positive reaction locally. but certainly outside of our immediate area there have been people who think that we're casting a blind eye on what they believe to be fact. where in our mind, the facts of his capture really have not been established. >> reporter: bowe bergdahl's family and friends say the homecoming celebration has only been cancelled for now. they're not giving up on bowe yet. cnn, hailey, idaho.
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and back with david road, now with reuters, held captive by the taliban for months, and cnn officer bob bear. bob, again we don't know the full effects of his captivity. when you hear that he pledged to commit jihad with the taliban or whatever they're saying do you buy that? >> oh, absolutely not. i know those intelligence networks there, come front range the intelligence peddlers. >> what do you mean, intelligence peddlers? >> they're contractors meeting up and trying to sell it to the u.s. government. and i know for a fact early on the cia looked at this stuff and rejected it flat out. for instance, they never knew where bowe bergdahl was and that is one of the reasons there was never a rescue mission. special forces could have gone in and gone him in pakistan but
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they never had any actionable intelligence. it was especially weak from the contractors. >> and in captivity, you said there were peddlers pushing information about you and it was false. >> yeah, there were contractors and i'm grateful for everybody who worked on my case. many of them were well intentioned. after i came home, and looked at the reports that my family had been given versus what the officials had been saying, the government officials were much more accurate. and again as bob said, my family was repeatedly told by the officials that they didn't know where i was. there was a drone strike where people said we wouldn't have done that if we had known you were in the house. that was one of the scariest days, we thought they would execute us right then and there. >> so when we hear all the details about his captivity from these private sources you say a huge grain of salt. >> i don't believe them.
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i just reject them out of hand. >> there are a lot of afghans out there who want to make some money? >> the worst place to collect intelligence in my opinion, in the southeast and asia and south america is afghanistan. it is unfounded rumors. people tell you anything. it is a nightmare for intelligence officers. so to take this on face value is an error. and i think it is a mistake. we need to hear from bowe bergdahl. we need to hear from the pentagon why he left base and under what conditions. and only then will i be able to pass judgment. >> does it surprise you that the pentagon doesn't know for sure how he left base? or do you think they do? >> i think we'll find out sooner rather than later, and it will go through congress. and the quicker the better for healing. >> good to have you on, thank you very much. it has been a long week on this story. ahead tonight, new information coming to light about the prior mental health of the alleged seattle college shooter and the heroes that are
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credited with saving lives. a student wrestling this guy to the ground and disarming him. also next, the former navy s.e.a.l. who has tough words for bowe bergdahl if he did anything wrong. marcus luttrell joins me ahead. good is swinging to get on base before swinging for a home run. [ crowd cheering ] good is choosing not to overshoot the moon, but to land right on it and do some experiments. ♪ so start your day off good with a coffee that's good cup after cup. maxwell house. ♪ good to the last drop maxwell house. who's going to make it happen? discover a new energy source. turn ocean waves into power. design cars that capture their emissions. build bridges that fix themselves. get more clean water to everyone. who's going to take the leap? who's going to write the code? who's going to do it? engineers. that's who. that's what i want to do. be an engineer. ♪
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. in explains why he agreed to swap bowe bergdahl for five prisoners, president obama repeatedly insisted he doesn't leave any soldier behind. in 2005, luttrell was part of a covert mission in afghanistan,
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the film, "lone survivor" is based on his memoir. >> you mean fall off? >> we're good, right? we're solid. >> luttrell was the only member of his navy s.e.a.l. team to make it out alive. he managed to make it out with the help of some afghan villagers. i spoke to him a short time ago. how did you feel when you learned of the release of the five detainees from gitmo for the exchange of bergdahl. you were in this situation, hunted by the taliban, you were in their hands for a while. they were looking to kill you. when you heard about this trade what did you first think? >> believe it or not, i actually
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heard about it from my family in afghanistan, the people in the village who rescued me. i still keep in contact with them. and they were upset. he talks to me about what goes down out here. but when that happened, he and the whole village. he said he and the people in the surrounding villages were really worried about the fact that that had happened. that that was a dangerous move and probably should not have been done. >> do you think it makes it more dangerous for service member whose are still in afghanistan? does it send a message that the u.s. will negotiate and that you know, taking an american soldier hostage will be rewarded? >> i think in my opinion, absolutely. if i was out there and i saw that go down i definitely -- they always want more. that is the thing about it. you go in, you negotiations, you give them something, it goes down, it doesn't go down, it goes back to the table. the stakes are always higher.
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for our guys who still have boots on the ground they're not out there yet and from my understanding they were going to be there for a couple of more years. if you still have troops in harm's way it is still on. it is game on. >> were you surprised that they kept him alive? that his kidnappers kept him alive? that they kept him alive that long. when they were hunting you, they wanted to kill you. >> right, that was it. it caught me off guard, too, the fact that he was -- that he sustained, for that long. i can tell you from my experience, that is the only reason i'm talking about this is i kind of have a little insight into this. i was not out there as long as he was. but the only negotiations for me was the fact they were trying to get me out of the hole that i was in and cut my head off. and i understand the fear. i mean, i saw it when he was in the back of that truck and i was looking in his eyes i remember that look. i had it. i mean, it is the unknown.
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it is just -- what is going on here? >> for me, you're talking about that video right in the back of the truck right before he was released? >> yes, sir. >> had the situation with you been different, would you have wanted an exchange for prisoners? that would have cut you the wrong way. >> when i went out there i knew the risks and i accepted those. if i died on the battlefield then that was the way it was supposed to be. when i did get captured the only thing i held on to was the fact my teammates were going to come get me, period. >> there is a lot of criticism of the actions of the father, bob bergdahl, do you think criticizing the efforts of somebody who has been held captive for years is fair? >> yeah, i don't think that is a good idea. but i know when i was missing, my family, what they went through, my mother and my father, it has got to be the most painful thing any parent can experience. and to drop down on them the way
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that a lot of people have probably -- a little outside the box. it was reported that i was dead. so for three or four days my mom just thought i was dead. and then when she found out i was still alive but i was being held in an afghani village, she this t had the fact i was alive but i was being held. yeah, i really don't know. obviously being dead is worse, but the fact i was away and she couldn't get in contact with me that was probably every parent's nightmare. i mean, i'm a parent now. i can't only imagine. i had one way of thinking when i wasn't a parent, and now that i am a parent everything is different. >> you're a big softy now? >> yeah, i got a daughter. that says everything. >> what do you think should happen to bergdahl, if in fact he did desert, should he be dishonorably discharged? what do you think is fair? >> in my opinion, this investigation, the hearsay,
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everything that is spun around that he was a deserter, if he was missing, he came back, he got out there. he got captured. that is completely different. if he did throw his kit down and walk outside the wire and if he did leave his men behind then absolutely he should be tried, the army will take care of that. the problem with the whole social media thing, i think, if heaven help that kid if he is not a deserter. because he is branded already. i will never say anything bad about the president. i'm military and i believe in the position and what he stands for. but people are asking me about the rose garden situation. and if you were going to have a rose garden ceremony you should have had those guys' parents who died. even with the bergdahl family. they're all joined at the hip, if you will. i have plenty of teammates who were out there looking for this
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guy, they didn't die but got shot up roeal bad. and the guys out there searching for this kid, they should have been out there in the rose garden honored as well. the president, man, he can't catch a break. >> it is an interesting idea, you're the first person i heard who suggested that. and that might have gone a little bit toward kind of making people see more of the complexity of the situation and sort of understanding it a little bit more. >> absolutely. and i think it would have eased -- i mean, i don't want to say that. i mean, i could speak to that because i've seen death in all of my teammates that have died and everything. and -- man this is a crazy situation. >> marcus, it is great to have you on. thank you. >> yes, sir, thank you for having me. >> marcus luttrell, great to have him. coming up, why the shoot in
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well, we're learning more tonight about the shooting at the seattle pacific university that left a 19-year-old man dead. the suspect is in custody, as is our policy on the program we don't say his name or show his picture. we want to focus on the people whose lives were lost and saved. kyung lah reports. >> i heard an explosion and i just had somebody running here and he was running with wound on his neck. >> reporter: the chilling call to 911, moments after the gunman opened fire at pacific university. students hiding in their classrooms, whispering for help from the dispatchers. >> he is in the lobby. >> reporter: this so fphomore barricading himself in, inside his physics class. >> i think he took a shot outside and then went outside. >> reporter: he heard the two shotgun blasts back-to-back.
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then a pause. >> and at the time he was reloading. >> reporter: police say the suspect is not a seattle pacific university student. police in the seattle suburb know him. he had been taken into custody on a mental hold in 2010 and 2012. according to one affiliate, the gunman heard the voice of columbine killer eric harris, the voice telling him to hurt people and that it scared him. other court documents cited by the station also show in october of 2012 the gunman's therapist requested he be involuntary committed but was denied because he was not an imminent threat. engineering student jon meis didn't know any of this. he was in the building's entrance. >> his instincts are right, you're either going to go die or hide. the guy didn't hesitate. he went out and jumped on him in
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a potentially life-threatening situation. >> armed with pepper spray, meis held him until the police arrived. meis stopped the gunman just inside the door. greeling says what made it so surprising was not just the action but who took it. greeling played volley ball with him. and didn't expect it. >> something you wouldn't expect. it is just the coolest thing, as bad as this was yesterday it could have been multiple of times worse. you know? exponentially worse. every single person in that building had the potential to be dead right now. >> including you? >> absolutely. >> 19-year-old paul lee didn't make it. he died of his injuries, three
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of his classmates were hurt. another college campus dealing with the loss of young life, the loss of security. but today, grateful that an unlikely hero saved so many of them. >> amazingly heroic act, that was kyung lah reporting. after the seattle shooting, the mayor said that the shootings were an epidemic. mayor, thank you for joining us. i'm sorry it is under these circumstances, i know one of the young victims, a man named paul lee died, do you know how the other victims are doing? >> my understanding is they have stabilized but they are not out of danger. >> you know, a tragedy like this can bring out the best in some people. and that is certainly the case with this hero student. police say if he had not acted as he did, there could have been a lot more dead. have you talked to him? >> i have not been out to the
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campus, was at a service today. but obviously this young man was very courageous, stepped into a very dangerous situation and if he had not the tragedy would have been that much worse. >> and there is another growing list of schools that experienced something like that. how is the community coping, how was the service today? >> well, the students are going through a tough time. it is a very emotional time. it is finals week. a time in their lives that they should be celebrating. instead they're facing an incredible tragedy. but they also -- i would say are taking a lot of strength from each other. >> you know, i want to ask you about the alleged shooter. we don't use the names of shooters on this program just because i don't think they should get publicity. i don't think people should remember their names. i always think people should remember names like paul lee, who died. but the shooter seemed to struggle with serious mental health issues. do you know much about that?
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>> i don't know a lot beyond the information you have seen. but once again, the issue of shootings, gun violence is connected to a mental health problem. and both the issue of responsible gun ownership and the need to do more in regards to our mental health system is at issue. >> and it is reported that according to court documents he had some sort of fascination with other mass shoei ishooting this. it is interesting that they don't happen in a vacuum. >> we try to get at these things such as violent video games and we're unable to withstand a court challenge. but it is something for us to look at, as a culture. i do want to say one more thing, anderson, on sunday night, two young men, one african-american, a graduate of the university of washington, the other east african working on hiv-aids, were murdered.
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last time they were seen was in a gay bar and they were murdered early sunday morning. so these shootings are related. they are gun violence. it is a tragedy for this city. and this city has been in a state of shock really since sunday. and the horrible shootings at seattle pacific university just underline the problem that all cities are having. it is not one week, it is not one incident. >> as mayor do you feel at times sort of powerless to change this? >> you certainly have that initial reaction. i would just -- human nature. but what has inspired me was the young man who jumped in there. the students at seattle pacific who were talking about how to take this tragedy and make something real out of it. but in particular, the young african-american and east africans who i met last night at the vigil service for the young men who were murdered on sunday. and how they want to get involved and how they want to find a way to move forward. with that kind of energy in this kind of city hopefully we can
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contribute to some solution. >> well, mayor, i am sorry for all that your city has been going through in the last couple of days just with this violence and i appreciate you talking to us about it. >> thank you. >> up next, remembering d-day, 70 years later with veterans who lived to tell the tale. and the words of two presidents. [person]...sharon got rid of her tempur-pedic ?!?! [person]...relax, she said... it's a brand new tempur-pedic... ...and then she unzipped the cover and showed how you can wash it anytime you like... [announcer] and, with the cool-to-the-touch smart climate system, now, there truly is... nothing like the feel of a real tempur-pedic. [person]it's definitely changed my life [person]thank you sharon [announcer]learn more at ♪ ♪
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well, today, world leaders and veterans gathered in france to mark the anniversary of the beginning of the end of world war ii. on this day, soldiers stormed the beaches on normandy. thousands died. the men who survived are older now. and president obama expressed his gratitude to them. >> all our veterans, if you can stand please raise your hand. let us recognize your service once more. these men waged war so that we might know free, they sacrificed so that we might be free, they fought in hopes of a day that we will never need to fight. we are grateful to them. >> soldiers and many others, on june 4th, franklin roosevelt spoke to them on d-day on the radio. we want to play you part of the message he had for americans on that day.
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>>almighty god, our sons, pride of our nation. this day have set upon the mighty endeavor, have struggled to preserve our republic. our religion, and our civilization. and to set free a suffering humanity. leave them strength. give strength to their arms, steadfastness in their faith. they will need thy blessings. their road will be long and hard. they fight not for the lust of conque conquest. they fight to end conquest. they fight to liberate. they fight to let justice rise, and tolerance and good will among all thy people.
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they yearn but for the end of battle. for their return for the haven of home. some will never return. embrace these, father, and receive them, thy heroic servanservant s into thy kingdom. >> and many did not return. here now in in their own words are veterans' memories of d-day and the journey. >> we got on the craft, on june the 2nd. we received a partial payment in french money. so we knew we were going to go to france. where? we didn't find out until we were on the channel. we crossed the channel and i
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know we were going to go in and face the enemy. and it was on my mind. and i said well, either i make it or i don't. >> the weather was really bad. rough. very rough. very rainy. very cold. >> the pilot of the craft and his megaphone made several announcements saying that he was going to try to -- >> the front went down and we jumped into the water. the water was up to our necks. we were not the first troops, the infantry was the first. and bodies were all over the place. >> first thing i had on my mind was death. i was thinking about, i was in the background, there were a lot of guys all around me. they were floating in the water. >> there was one kid, i looked down and there was michael, his name was. and he is trying to talk. and nothing is coming out. and he just -- i made him out to
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say help me. but things were so chaotic there you couldn't help anybody, you had to get out of there. a group of four of us, we headed up and we go through a minefield. the whole area was mined. so as we traverse this high ground i hear pop, and in my perpheral vision i hear this guy to my left, and an explosion and through the air. i just kept going as quick as i could. we were lucky to inch up yard by yard. we fought on until 3:00 a.m. and took a rest -- i think it was two hours. as soon as it got daylight we took off again. >> and we defeated the germans. some were lucky and some were
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not. it was on their mind, we had to do what we had to do. and it was what we did. and i'll tell you what, the american guys did a good job. they were good soldiers. >> and 70 years ago, it seems like almost yesterday. i'm so proud to call myself a veteran. i really am. and i feel that we were a big help to the whole world. >> and all of us owe them a debt of gratitude. one of the american soldiers who parachuted into normandy is 70 years old. he wanted to see if he could make that same jump. his story is next. i make a lot of purchases for my business. and i get a lot in return with ink plus from chase. like 50,000 bonus points when i spent $5,000 in the first 3 months after i opened my account. and i earn 5 times the rewards on internet, phone services and at office supply stores.
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. we're back with susan hendricks and a "ac360" bulletin. >> anderson, outside a georgia courthouse it sounded like a war zone. take a listen, that shootout ensued after a man with a rifle and explosives tried to ram himself into the courthouse, he shot a department in the leg before he was killed. and the state-run newspaper didn't describe the allegations
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against him. two other americans are being held in north korea. and parachuting into normandy just like he did years ago, his unit was part of the first to land behind enemy lines on the eve of the d-day invasion. anderson, unbelievable that he did it again. >> it is incredible, 93, susan, thank you, that does it for us. the original series "the sixties" starts right now. the supreme national effort will be needed to move this country safely through the 1960s. >> across the world soviet missiles are aimed at the united states. whatever the president does, he risks nuclear war. whatever the president does, he risks nuclear war. >> khrushchev calls west berlin a cancerous sore. >> lines are now drawn.