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good evening. welcome to this live edition of "ac 360." details of the deal to free bowe bergdahl and the manifesto and what we're learning about the three lives taken. later, a welcomed exclusive, talking to the guy leaving cash all over san francisco and other parts of california. he has a big announcement to take tonight. we begin with the breaking news on capitol hill. a short time ago house lawmakers wrapped up a closed door briefing on the controversial prisoner swap and exchange of
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five dunleavy t five taliban detainees. they say they were afraid about leaks. bergdahl is recovering at a u.s. military hospital in germany. a senior official said he was promoted and wants to be recognized by the rank of private first class. more than a week after the release, he's still not talked to his parents. according to reports he isn't emotionally ready. here's what his mom said two days after he was freed. >> i'm so looking forward to seeing your face after these last five and a half years. long, long years. and to giving you a great big bear hug and holding you in my arms again. never wanting to let you go. five years is a seemingly endless long time. but you've made it. >> well, they have not spoken publicly since that news conference. now the fbi is investigating
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threats the parents received in e-mails. we have a report of report and haley, idaho. jim, since his release, there have been a lot of obviously different reports about the conditions. that sergeant beg dal held in. you have heard new details, as well. >> reporter: we are learning of a traumatizing experience, one attempted according to u.s. officials to escape more than once and partly because of those escape attempts he was kept for a period of time in a cage or a box, often, you know, without any sunlight and he was physically abused. just one point for context, during the vietnam war, veterans were held with other soldiers, even during the lebanese civil war, the prisoners taken held with others. he endured five years of this entirely by himself. so you can imagine the physical and psychological trauma. >> you're also hearing reports, and again, i think the reports have to be taken with a grain of salt depending on the sources and may have attempted to get along the captors? >> reporter: that's right.
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hearing from a taliban spokesperson he played soccer at time with the captors and other forms of communication, celebrated christmas and easter, choose his menu on some occasions. now, you know, is that incriminating necessarily? no. you know, to humanize yourself as a survival tactic, i've been told. i'm sure you have been before going into war zones to make yourself less likely to be treated inhumanely and possibly less likely to be killed. >> and, ed, you are in haley, idaho. what do we know about the threats his family is receiving, apparently? >> reporter: we have been told by law enforcement source that the threats came through e-mail and a family friend also tells us that some of those threats were made in phone calls, as well, to the bergdahls. a military spokesman or liaison close to the family for five years says that this is a law enforcement issue so many more details beyond that we do not know. but there's a great deal of
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concern for the family. many people here in haley, idaho, because of what quickly they thought was a jubilant situation with the release, they thought was a jubilant situation turned so nasty and vile. many of their family friends are very concerned about their well being at this point. >> are think any plans we know about for any kind of reunion to take place? >> reporter: as far as we know, i mean, things have slowed down considerably. we had thought and kind of led to believe that bowe bergdahl making the way from germany to san antonio, texas, by the end of last week but clearly things have slowed down a little bit as the medical staff helps out bowe bergdahl in germany and as far as we know everything seems to be on track for that reunion to take place at some point going to that army medical facility in san antonio, texas. >> jim, bottom line, it is a while before we really know what
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happened to sergeant bergdahl. >> reporter: this is what military officials repeat to me and i'm sure to others is wait. we'll do an investigation. we will look into, says the pentagon, charges that he desserted, left multiple times. you know, even, possibly collaborated and they say there's no hard evidence of it and give the time for his family to heal, for bowe bergdahl to heal physically and mentally and the focus and secretary hagel made that assurance to the family, as well. in phone calls and communications. >> there's a rush to judgment. we don't know the facts and we've just not to wait. thanks very much. want to bring in two men with insight into the story. david rode held captive for seven months working for "the new york times" and now are reuters. investigative reporter. also, keith stanza held captive in colombia for five years. i appreciate both of you being with us. david, first of all, i know you
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talked to the bergdahls, what, recently? >> yeah. >> okay. >> over the weekend, yes. >> what did they say? >> i mean, i want the sort of respect their privacy but generally i would say they're heartbroken by the situation, how this is playing out. >> response? >> response and talk of soldiers dying possibly in the search for bergdahl, that's heart breaking for them, as well. families lost soldiers and, you know, and these death threats are real. they're getting them. again, this is a christian family. i just -- i get twitter messages saying bowe is a muslim and his father growing that beard. that's just not true. >> he grew the beard in sympathy with his son? >> yes. trying to keep his son alive and get the taliban to not kill them and one quick thing, a mention of the spokesman claiming that bergdahl played soccer. >> right. >> i was held by the same faction and did not let me outside. i was this very valuable prisoner. bowe was valuable and they're very afraid of local spies who
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do it seems help the u.s. carry out drone strikes in the area and doesn't seem plausible to have bergdahl out playing soccer where anyone could see him, that could trigger a drone strike. the taliban thought that the drone strikes and drones try to kill me to eliminate the valuable prisoner they had. we have to wait for more information. >> keith, i'm sure you're not surprised to hear nine days, sergeant bergdahl has not spoken to his family. your reintegration with your family carefully orchestrated. short amounts of time, i think 30 minutes the first time. what -- can you describe what makes that initial communication with family so, so kind of fraught? so difficult? >> yeah. anderson, you know, for me, the term i use is just almost like sensory overload, emotional shock. for us after five and a half years of being in one environment and then thrust into another, it was a lot to deal with, just that change in the
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environment. and then the family members which compromise the most important part of your life for the three of us did for sure, that you haven't seen somebody for five and a half years and i had a little boy that was 10 years old and didn't come up to my shoulder and then 16 and 6'5" coming out and someone i didn't recognize. all of those things together or the changes that just abrupt change is a lot to handle. and it's a lot to process. so, for us, three of us that were hostages, we had fairly large families, all with children. it was difficult. and i say it's for me a sensory overload. it wasn't a negative in the sense that i didn't want to see them but it was almost -- there's only so much i could take in the beginning and it took a while to get back to it and it's just part of that type of absence for that long of a time. >> part of that, keith, because the environment you were in is totally controlled? i mean, you have no control over i assume what happens to you on
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any given day, what time you eat, you can go to the bathroom, that sort of thing. >> oh, absolutly. i can remember making some comments the day before yesterday, previously spoke of what did you think of the condition of sergeant bergdahl and the eyes? we all looked like that. you know? we're in double, triple canopy jungle and basically were not, you know, we weren't eating like we should. we suffered from a lot and the stress on top of that, really, a stress is the biggest thing and had that drone-like look. it was interesting to see walking toward the helicopter, it looked like he was waiting for instructions to just move. that's a result of what you led into, everything you do, we would be awoken in the morning at 5:15, 5:20 and given black coffee made out of river water and sugar and told when to get up and get up from the hammock and unchain you and you have to ask to use the restroom.
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at night by yourself, you can't get up and use the restroom and where you have these containers which you have to ask the guard when's ten foot from you and shines a light on you. no privacy. so everything is stripped away from you, all the basic human privileges, rights are stripped and you become accustomed to that and live in that environment and it's difficult to go back to the norm after that and takes some time. >> david, i mean, as somebody that went through, you know, a seven-month experience like this, what did your caution to people out there? i mean, i basically following this for last week and sort of the end of the week, i kind of realized we don't have all the information and won't have all the information for a long time and it's unfair to judge this guy based on the information that we do have at this point. that's at least my thought. >> i would not -- you know, i'm biassed because the taliban kidnapped me. of all the sources of information, i wouldn't trust the taliban. >> right. >> any descriptions of how they treated him, acted in captivity, did he trust the vietcong
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describing how prisoners behaved? i don't think we did. so i would just say, you know, be skeptical and realize this is a big political issue. it's dividing the country. and, you know, who's got what agenda here. >> david, good to have you on. keith, thanks so much and my best to your mom on the program last week and lovely. thanks a lot. >> have a great night. thank you. >> thanks. set your dvr to watch "360" whenever you like. the killings in las vegas and the neighbor who saw something, in fact, saw an awful lot and never said anything to authorities until it was far too late. a window into the world of people living with mental serious illness. a way to experience life or ordinary moments. what it's like to hear voices in your head. an experiment i took yesterday. >> just come near. >> i only had to endure 45 minutes of the experiment. just ahead, see how i did it.
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breaking news tonight on the shooting rampage in las vegas. two police officers and one civilian shot dead by a husband and wife couple with a record of anti-government statements and postings. sunday they turned the words into violence before taking their own lives. ordinarily, we would not show the faces or say the names of killers like these, usually mass shootings with kids, because we think it's more important that history remember the names and lives of the victims and survivors. however, in this case, it's important to focus on the
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perpetrators and drove them and may be part of a larger pattern and police looking for information about them. with that in mind, the breaking news, videotape of the husband at the government standoff with rancher bundy voicing his views and a warning. >> i feel sorry for any federal agent that is want to come in here and try to push us around or anything like that. i don't want violence toward them but if they come, bring violence to us, well, if that's the language they want to speak, we'll learn it. >> bundy's son said the couple was asked to leave because of their radical beliefs. today authorities revealed how they acted on those beliefs. kyung lah has that. and a neighbor's regret she did not do more. >> i got five deaths on my shoulders. i should have called the cops. >> reporter: but kelly fielder didn't. the couple had been living with her for the last two weeks saying they were preparing for something against the government.
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>> it was yesterday morning. it's 5:45 in the morning. and he said that the revolution begun. he said, i got to do what i got to do. they had, i mean, a cart full of just ammunition, ammunition, guns, everything. >> reporter: were they carrying them? can you describe what they were doing? >> they were carrying them saying they were underground. >> reporter: where the couple was going is here. cici's pizza. las vegas police officers saldo and beck were eating lunch. >> crawling, groveling on the hands and knees. give me permission to do this. give me permission to do that. >> reporter: police say jerad miller who wanted on video about the disgust of the government and his wife amanda didn't know the officers they targeted. they shot 31-year-old officer saldo in the back of the head killing him instantly. partner alan beck, 41, was shot in the throat by still managed to fire back before they shot him again. the couple then pulled the officer's bodies out of the
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booth. >> where they placed a flag, a don't tread on me yellow flag, on the body of officer beck. they also threw a swastika on top of his body. >> reporter: kelly fielder knows exactly what the police are talking about. >> he's got the no tread on me flags. that's what put on that cop. and, yeah. swastika pins and he said every popo -- this is his exact words. every popo he cleans he's going to put a swastika on him. >> reporter: the couple did put a swastika on the victims and pinned a note on officer saldo declaring, this is the beginning of the revolution, before moving to to the packed walmart across the street. >> two people walked in, shooting up in the ceiling and telling everyone to get out of the store, get out of the store. we want a war. >> reporter: customer joseph wilcox did not run. he was carrying a concealed weapon and heroically confronted
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the male gunman but wilcox did not see the wife and police say she shot and killed him. police arrived and exchanged gun fire with the couple before the wife wounded shot her husband. then, shot herself. >> it was pretty much always talking about how much, you know, you know, the government's changed, the united states of america. >> reporter: who lived in the same apartment complex heard the radical views. on social media, they talk about their love for each other and a picture of facebook shows the couple's affection for the joker from the batman series. kelly fielder says looking back, the red flags are obvious. she wishes she had done something. >> i am so, so, so sorry to everybody that -- i'm sorry. >> kyung joins us now from las vegas. the fact the neighbor, witnessed and heard so much, i mean, a lot of red flags. when's the vegas police saying about it? >> reporter: well, they're saying they're expressing us
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from tralgs. they aaddress this in the large news conference this afternoon in las vegas saying it's so, so important that if you see something, wherever you live in the country, you have to say something. that's actually a motto here in this town. see something, say something. tell the police because, anderson, as we have seen so many times in the shootings, it is the people closest to suspects, the people next door that see the flags. >> all right. thanks so much. stirring story. you can read it on the face of that police official walking reporters through the time line when the lives of two of the men were taken and then later when a civilian gave his trying to protect others. we remember the three lives and do the best to honor them. >> we're a community in tears here. i will tell you these werewolf officers. >> a community in tears over the deaths of two of their own. police officers who were just out to grab some lunch. officer alan beck joined the las vegas metropolitan police in august of 2001. his friends say he was a good person whose goal was to help
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people. >> alan was a wonderful person. he was the best of people. he was always about service. he was the funnest guy. he was -- you think of some people who are good in eulogy only and alan is the absolute opposite of that. alan is easy to eulogize because that's all he was was good. >> reporter: officer beck was married and leaves behind three children. he was just 41 years old. alan's partner officer igor saldo joined the force in 2006. he attended high school in lincoln, nebraska, and previously worked as a corrections officer before joining the force. described by family as a good father and a great man, saldo leaves behind a wife and baby. >> to imagine young people in the family finding out your husband or wife has gone off to work and that's it? fine. innocent because we have got the sick, sick cowardly people out there that just decide to express themselves all the time
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with bullets, and we see it repeatedly across this country. >> reporter: joseph wilcox was shopping at walmart. police say he had a concealed weapon and tried to confront a gunman. he was shot and killed. his friend was with him and says he believed wilcox prevented the killers from targeting other victims. >> i wanted to tell him, don't do this. come with me. i also felt that he's possibly going to be saving some lives and it all happened so quick. i think before i could get words out to him i started hearing gunshots and i just wanted to get out. >> reporter: joseph wilcox was 31. you can find out more at next, a story prompted by the story in seattle and the alleged killer's struggle with mental illness. he claimed to have heard voices in his head. we connected with a clinical psychologist that created a way for people to identify and build empathy for people with such a life-altering condition. >> eyes down. you suck. you know that?
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this next story was eye opening experience for me, motivated by the shooting last week at seattle pacific university. unlike the latest one in las vegas, the seattle one is a mental health aspect to it. the alleged gunman was battling psychiatric issues. a number of mental illnesses
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including schizophrenia can do this. only a very small number of people who actually hear voices commit violence of any kind. it's very rare. clinical psychologist pat deegan diagnosed as a teenager with schizophrenia lived for years with the hallucinations and has an experiment to help people understand what she and others experience. you listen to voices through headphones while trying to do everything from puzzles to simply interacting with people on the street. those are the voices to hear in the background of the next story. here's how i did and a warning you might find some of the voices unsettling. >> you suck and they know it. >> can't you get this right? >> reporter: okay. so i did this test for three minutes and i did not get a
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single one. it's very hard to -- it's hard to concentrate when -- if it's music or something constant, it's easy but people talking to you is very difficult. so now i'm going to be asked a series of questions by our producer susan and these are basically a series of question that is a person would be asked in -- if they were being admitted to a hospital. >> can you tell me what day it is? >> yeah, it's sunday, june -- i don't know. when's the date? 7th? >> i'm going to say five numbers and repeat them back. five, 23, 67, 2, 76. >> almost there. >> 5, 23, 67, something, 76. >> i'm going to say five words. you don't have to repeat them. listen to them. >> you will be near. >> cat. book. cigar. >> now make it -- >> damage and rain.
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>> make you okay. >> can you name the last four presidents of the united states? >> barack obama, george bush, bill clinton, george bush. >> so those five words i said before, can you remember any of them? >> no. >> it's hard when -- sometimes the voices are like whispering. sometimes they're aggressive. sometimes they're kind of comforting. again, with people talking to you all the time it's -- >> it's okay. >> it's hard. >> don't worry. now or later. >> i'm going to try to make a boat, origami, following these instructions. >> it will be okay. >> shut up! >> i want to talk back to the voices now but it's really
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distracting. >> do not do it. do not touch that! stop. eyes down. >> you suck! what are you looking at? this is easy! you want to touch that? >> i can't do this. >> hand down. keep your eyes down. just do it. just do it. no. filthy mind. leave it alone. >> it's also frustrating because they're telling me i can't do it and i'm -- i didn't do a very good job with the boat. but it's really hard to focus when kind of people are whispering to you and talking to you. >> just come clear. come near to me. come near for help. >> hey. do you have yesterday's paper? yesterday's "the new york times"?
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no? okay. i'll just get today's. it's really -- it's incredibly distracting on the street to have have somebody talking in your head and makes you feel completely isolated and find yourself wanting to engage in conversation with the voices in the head and they're negative and talking to you and everything they're saying relates to things you're doing, criticizing things you're doing. like somebody's -- like you have a chorus watching you and commenting on what you're doing and you can't help but -- i mean, i literally find myself wanting to respond to them, kind of tell them to be quiet and it's incredibly unpleasant. this is a very, very unpleasant experiment. it's really -- it's eye opening because it kind of really shows you what it's -- what other people must be going through who deal with this on a regular basis.
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but also, like, i cannot wait to take these headphones off because it's -- it's really depressing. it's very -- it's very negative. it makes you feel very, very negative. yeah. it's very creepy. i want it to stop. >> eyes down. back up. stand up now! i'll cut you off. i've cut 20, 30, 40. stand up now. walk away. >> you're okay. >> walk now. >> yes. >> pacify. on to pacify. all the way to make it home. >> it's a disturbing experiment. the woman that created it, pat deegan who herself suffered from schizophrenia and doing well with it, i interviewed her about this experiment. we'll have that on our podcast at you can check out the podcast
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nba commissioner silver isn't sure that the sterling scandal is over even with the deal in the works to sell the clippers to former microsoft ceo steve ballmer. he has a lot to say about interview sterling and could have focused on apologizing for the rant but attacked magic johnson and accused the former lakers star of not doing enough to help minority communities which is absurd. here's what commissioner silver told our rachel nichols. >> we ran into brooklyn the night anderson cooper interviewed donald sterling. you were seething over the comments especially magic johnson and hiv. was there anything you heard in
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the interview that impacted your thinking going through this process? >> well, that was after the fact so when i heard that interview, i'd of course already made my decision. i'll say it reinforced the decision. it reinforced my certainty that i had done the right thing and i felt -- i apologized this night to magic johnson because maybe and the public doesn't understand this, it's not clear how he was sucked into this. even in v. stiviano's interview, she had a picture of herself with magic johnson and probably hundreds of thousands of people with a picture with magic johnson. he's the most generous person with his time. he's the most forthcoming and cooperative with anybody that wants to shake his hand or an autograph or take a picture so all she had was some point i think the picture was taken at a dodger's game, in fact, a picture with her and magic johnson and when donald went on cnn he singled out magic johnson to attack in terms of his
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commitment or lack of to the community. and then, i think on hiv and aids, particularly, first of all, to say he has aids. he doesn't have aids. i lived through that era early on in my days at the nba and first came to the nba and came become into the league and it was so much misinformation, i'm sure as you remember, back in those days about the meaning of being hiv positive or aids and to me what donald was saying, it conjured that back up, that notion that somehow if you're hiv positive, you have aids, you're being punished for behavior. i think we're passed that in society and i just thought, this is so unfair. not just to frankly to magic johnson but a class of people who have now been freshly insulted. >> rachel joins me now. so the board of governors in the nba they haven't approved the sale yet. >> no, no, no. one thing they're waiting for is for donald sterling to withdraw the lawsuit against the nba and
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adam silver personally and adam -- donald sterling's lawyer said they intend to do that and adam silver said, hey, i have experience with donald sterling. he said he'll do things before and backtracked and waiting to see what happens there. they could possibly if things really go off the rails, reinstitute the board of governor's vote that they were going to have and adam told me that he thought if they had had the vote it would have been unanimous to kick sterling out. >> that's interesting. did he say anything about the shelly sterling and a connection to the team? >> he says other than allowed to attend games, there is no other connection. overs say she may be allowed to run a foundation that steve ballmer will start with a stake in the clippers. it's unclear if that falls under the nba's definition of having anything to do with the team but clearly players don't want her to have anything to did with it and near the court or anywhere near the building. she will be allowed to go to the games but no say.
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>> interesting she wants to have it be seen there and a hand in it. thanks very much. fascinating stuff. rachel has more with adam silver and the plans for the nba on her show this week airs friday night 10:30 eastern. pamela brown has a bulletin. pamela? >> hi there. tracy morgan in krit congressional but stable condition and responsive after being involved in a crash on the new jersey turnpike over the weekend. that accident left a friend of his dead. and police have charged a walmart truck driver with vehicular homicide and say he was awake more than 24 hours before the collision. meantime, the pakistani taliban has claimed responsibility for a siege on the karachi airport. officials say at least 29 people were killed and 10 militants. and five relatives of those aboard missing airlines flight 370 appeared in a new video seeking $5 million in donations. organizers say the money will be used for a private investigation
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and offers as a reward for information on what happened to the plane that went missing three months ago. anderson? >> thanks very much. just ahead, a gay man forced as a child to undergo a controversial therapy that now the texas republican party has endorsed describes why it didn't work and the harm he says it hurt him. and the philanthropist behind the hidden cash phenomenon. i'll talk to him. you know that dream... on my count. the one where you step up and save the day? make it happen. (crowd) oh no... introducing verizon xlte. hey guys, i got it right here! we've doubled our 4g lte bandwidth in cities coast to coast. so take on more. with xlte. for best results, use verizon. this is mike. his long race day starts with back pain...
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at the annual convention over the weekend the texas republican party endorse add therapy that purr forts to fix gay people known as reparative or gay conversion therapy, a treatment debunked and condemned by the american psychological association and others. california, new jersey have banned the treatment for minors based on the potential pardon me that it does. randi kaye has more on that. >> reporter: when ryan kendall was 13, his mother read the diary and discovered he was gay. that was the beginning of the most painful years of his life. >> for years, i thought that god hated me because i was gay. >> reporter: ryan says his parents were determined to change him. they signed him up for
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reparative therapy with the national association for research and therapy of homosexuality. otherwise known as narth. therapy to change sexual orientation is used for decades to turn potentially gay children straight. >> every day i hear this is a choice. this can be fixed. >> reporter: did you believe that? >> i never believed that. i know i'm gay just like i know i'm half and half hispanic and never thought the facts would change. part of my identity. so the parallel would be, sending me to tall camp and saying, if you try really hard, one day you can be 6'1". >> reporter: ryan says he was treated by a clinical psychologist who today is still associated with narth. >> the constant refrain is religious one. this is something that makes god cry. that this is something your family doesn't want for you. >> reporter: at his office outside los angeles, we asked him if he remembered treating ryan kendall 14 years earl yerl.
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>> i'm not familiar with the name at all. >> reporter: his parents have bills from your office. >> yes, yes. >> reporter: checks written. no record? >> no. >> reporter: he says your therapy quite harmful. he said you told him to butch up, quote/unquote. >> never. that's not our language. >> reporter: when says people like yourself, others are trying to get the gay out of people -- >> that's a terrible way of phrasing it. i would rather say we're trying to bring out the hetero sexuality in you. >> reporter: he said he's kept hundreds of kids from growing up to be gay and credits george reikers, a believer that homosexuality is prevented and worked as a student at ucla in the 1970s. in a government funded experimental program, later called sissy boy syndrome, he treated a boy named kirk murphy. to turn around the so-called sissy behavior, kirk was repeatedly asked to choose between traditionally masculine
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toys like plastic knives and guns or feminine pun w uns like dolls and a play crib. choosing the feminine items, kirk's mother would be told to ignore him. kirk's siblings told anderson his personality changed as a result of the therapy. >> he had no idea how to relate to people. it's like somebody just walked up and turned the lights out. >> reporter: he was considered a success story writing, his feminine behavior was gone. proof he said that homosexuality can be prevented. kirk's family says he was gay. and never recovered from the attempts to turn him straight. in 2003, kirk took his own life. he hanged himself from a fan in his apartment. he was 38. our producers tracked george down in florida. >> what do you say to the family saying that the therapy that you did with him as a child led to his suicide as an adult? >> i think scientifically that
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would be inaccurate. to assume that it was the therapy. but i do grieve for the parents now that you have told me that news. i think that's very sad. >> reporter: according to the american psychiatric association, the self destructive behavior. therapists alignment with prejudices against homosexuality may reinforce the self-hatred felt by patients. dr. nick locey says that his therapy isn't harmful and only treats people who want to change. not true says ryan kendall. >> it led me to periods of homelessness and drug abuse and spending a decade of my life wanting to kill myself. it led to so much pain and struggle. and i want them to know that what they do hurts people, hurts
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children, has no basis in fact and they need to stop. >> randy kaye, cnn, new york. >> a quick programming note tomorrow night i will speak to a texas lawmaker who supports the notion of repairtive behavior. the man behind the hidden crash phenomenon is no longer anonymous. he is spreading the free money cash to other cities.
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tonight we're on the money trail that is wrapped in mystery. you may have heard about the person hide "n" california hiding cash in public places. if you can find the cash it's yours to keep. he has been anonymous until now. we will introduce you to him in a second but first here is dan simon. >> god bless to him. this is helping my family. >> it's an exciting treasure hunt and everyone was has a similar reaction. >> are you looking for the cash? >> yes. >> this one caught on live television. >> we got some money. >> the anonymous real estate investor told me he wanted to spawn a movement. >> i just got here. >> the idea is simple. he hides cash-filled envelopes
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and posts clues to their location on twitter. >> there is no political agenda, there is no religious agenda. there is no business agenda. the whole agenda is random acts of kindness and put a smile on people's faces. >> tonight the man behind hidden cash is no longer anonymous. his name is jason boozy. this is a "ac360" exclusive and it's money. so why do this? why give money away? >> i've done well and some of my friends involved with it have done well as well. we wanted to give back. typically when people give back they do it through charity. we do that too. but this is a fun way to give back to the community of san francisco. we came up with different ideas and we eliminated most of them as being too complex. we thought what if we hide cash
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in different places and tweet about it. we did that and it has been a few weeks and it exploded from there. >> nobody knew who you were for a long time. you were outed by "inside edition" they went through great lengths to figure out it was you. has that changed the nature of what you're doing. i know you liked the mystery of it initially. >> it has made it more difficult for me to do the drops personally. but we have others involved and friends helping. but it was fun to be anonymous and it's also the downside of people knowing my name is i'm getting personal requests to me now like i'm some kind of zilli zillionaire which i'm not. >> how much have you given away? >> it's not that much in the big scheme of things for all the publicity we've gotten. i think it's just shy of
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$15,000. we are planning to give away a lot more. >> do you find that people enjoy the excitement of the search? >> absolutely. and that's what it is about. i don't think it's really about the money. some people are making it like it's about the money. some people are struggling financially an my heart goes out to them but it's for most people it's the thrill of the search. there are a few things that we tapped into. when social media, the internet comes together and brings together people in a real life way where you know, it gets them out of their living room and or away from their phone and out there doing things with their friends and kids and families, i think that is something powerful about that. >> do you have a favorite story out of all the people who have found cash? >> my favorite story is the 14-year-old girl in burbank and
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it was a little over $200. and she was in tears of joy. and you can see her on our twitter page which is @hiddencash. she is sending the money to her sick grandmother in mexico. i said even though this is not a charity, it's a game and a way to give back but it can have an impact on people's lives even though what most of us consider a small amount, to this girl it meant the world. she was so happy and grateful. we want to encourage people to pay it forward. >> jason, i know you hope to expand this. how so? >> i want to announce, anderson, on your show. this weekend we will be in las vegas, chicago, houston, new york city, one in manhattan, one in brooklyn and mexico city. we have plans beyond this to do paris, london and madrid all by
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the first week of july. >> good luck to you on the expansion and i wish you the best. >> thank you, anderson. >> we'll see you at 11:00 p.m. for another edition of "ac360." for another edition of "ac360." "cnn tonight" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- is there anybody out there who thinks that hillary clinton is not running for president? i don't think so. but if you need further convincing shthere is her interview with abc news's diane sawyer. she says that benghazi is more of a reason to run. she says her health is now very good. how did she do? some of the best political minds are here including a former member of the clinton white house. and the firestorm over the movement to free bowe bergdahl. the bush attorney general says that president obama broke the law but that law is unconstitutional. we