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in history to cross that level. the dow has been on a roll for the past year. analysts say it shows investors are optimistic of the global economy. i'm erin mcpike, "state of the union" with candy crowley starts right now. 300 u.s. special forces, too few? too many? too late? iraq, redone. too few? too many, too late? iraq redone. today, senators rand paul and dianne feinstein on iraq -- the risks of returning, the price of staying home. >> the issue that i keep front and center is what is in the national security interests of the united states of america? and 40 years later, watergate summer. >> this principle of confidentiality of presidential conversations is at stake in the question of these tapes. >> bob woodward and carl bernstein join us to talk then, and now. plus -- >> i just -- i don't believe you. that's your problem. nobody believes you.
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>> disappearing irs e-mails. fading presidential poll numbers and the omnipresent hillary clinton. our political panel weighs in. this is "state of the union." good morning from washington. i'm candy crowley. four more iraqi towns have fallen to isis, an islamist militia that is plowing its way through iraq on the way to baghdad. this as the initial group of u.s. military advisors is expected to arrive soon in iraq. joining me now, senator rand paul, republican from kentucky. a rare treat to find you in town, so thanks for being here. >> good morning. >> looking at the situation in iraq as it is now, what would president paul do? >> how we got here and we have to decide as a country where we are going. i think there is chaos in the middle east and i think that's because we created a vacuum. before the war there was a standoff between sunni and shiite for maybe 1,000 years off and on.
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now we have a chaotic situation, we have a vacuum. i think one of the reasons why isis has been emboldened is because we've been arming their allies. we have been allied with isis in syria. they have had a safe haven because we have been arming the rebels to keep assad away from them. and now they go back and forth so i think our intervention in syria has led precisely -- >> it may have, senator. but when one's sitting in the oval office you have to think, what do we do now? so would a president paul the at this moment send u.s. advisors and say go and see what we can do to help the iraqi army? would a president paul say i might do air strikes. >> i think the first thing you have to do is follow the constitution. the constitution congress decides. president doesn't have the unilateral authority to begin war. >> but you think it is a good idea? >> well, this is an incredibly important point. reagan doctrine for how we go to war is that you should have a consensus of the people.
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congress has to decide. militarily we could go back in. the surge worked. obviously we have the military might and power but the country as a whole has to decide do we want to send 100,000 troops in or we willing to have 4,500 young americans die to save a city like mosul that the shiites won't even save, that they've fled. >> what does rand paul think at this point? >> no ground troops. i think that we -- >> i think most everybody agrees. how about air strikes? >> i think we need to see what the shiites are willing to do to defend themselves. if the shiites aren't willing to fight for their country it may be that their country is not going to exist. >> by the time you find out how people feel in iraq, by the time you get congress to do anything, it is two weeks later and the isis is sitting in baghdad. so you're going to have to move pretty quickly here if you're against air strikes. >> there are times when a president would move quickly to dispel an imminent threat to the country.
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where i disagree with the president is that there was an imminent threat in benghazi. the shiites ripping off their uniforms need to stand up and fight. could we assist them in some way? i wouldn't rule that out. i would first wait to see if the shiites are going to fight for their country or not. >> let me play you something that one of your region colleagues said, senator marco rubio. he was talking about why this is important and he does believe that national security is at stake. >> the reason why we care is because we cannot allow a safe haven to develop there that can be used to carry out attacks that can kill americans including here in our homeland. >> so do you believe that the isis is a national security threat to the united states? >> do you know where the safe haven is? the safe haven's in syria. those who have -- let me finish. the thing is that they would not be empowered and in iraq if we were are not providing safe
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haven in syria by arming their allies. >> so should we go to syria? the thing is we kind of are where we are. >> no. we are where we are because we armed the syrian rebels. we have been fighting alongside al qaeda, fighting alongside isis. isis is now emboldened and in two countries. here's the anomaly. we're with isis in syria. we're on the same side of the war. those who want to get involved to stop isis in iraq are allied with isis in syria. that is the real contradiction to this whole policy. >> right. many of your republican colleagues would argue what we should have done in syria is get rid of assad and that would have stopped isis in its tracks. >> we've done this. look at libya. we went into libya and got rid of that terrible gadhafi, now it is a jihadist wonderland. if we got rid of assad it will be a jihadist wonderland in syria. >> here we are. can a terrorist haven in iraq -- does a terrorist haven in
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iraq -- which it may be soon -- threaten the national security of the u.s.? >> it could at some point. i would say right now if you are a member of isis, you're looking at the shiites right in front of you and the battles you are fighting. i don't believe isis is right now in the middle of a battle saying, i think we'll send intercontinental ballistic missiles to america. so could they and threat? yes. >> should we stop them now? >> we should have not armed them. if we didn't arm them -- >> the past. >> the past is six months ago. past is still current as well. it is the present. we are still arming the radical islamic rebels in syria. the homeland, they are going back and forth across the border. they go back into syria and that is a homeland we are helping to defend. >> how do you stop that? >> let's not be involved in a syrian civil war and let's not be involved in iraq's civil war. >> out altogether?
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>> no. i would say maliki is an ally. here's the thing. they think they'll create stability by pushing maliki out in the middle of a war. then we have another power vacuum and nobody leading the country at all. my prediction is that maliki will stand up and the shiites will stand up, that isis will not be able to take baghdad and there will be a civil war over there but there will be a civil war with feckless people on one side who are allies of iran, and on the other side, allies of al qaeda. you have to ask yourself, are you willing to send your son? am i willing to send my son to retake back a city, mosul, that they weren't willing to defend themselves? i'm not willing to send my son into that mess. >> let me move you to a different subject and that is, you are working with senator corey booker, a democrat from new jersey, on re-establishing federal voting rights to non-violent felons who have served parole and, et cetera.
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what -- of all the issues facing congress at this point, what draws you to that? is this about republican inroads in to minority communities? >> as i've traveled about the country and within my state talking to people, i found a number of people -- in fact, as i've explored the issue, there is nearly a million people in our country who have lost their voting rights. in kentucky you lose your voting rights forever. i have a friend whose brother grew marijuana plants 30 years ago in college. has a felony conviction and still cannot vote 30 years later. i think that's wrong and unfair. republicans i think have been unfairly tarred trying to suppress vote. here's a republican that wants to enhance the vote. nearly 1 million people can't vote right now and i want to help people get the right to vote back. >> as we know, african-americans percentage wise certainly make up a larger percentage of folks being incarcerated. i think the naacp has estimated one-third of young black males are in jail. is this a way for the republican
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party to begin outreach which they have said for decades they needed to do in minority communities? >> i think it is both. i believe in the issue but you are right, it is opening the door for me to talk to communities. 3 out of 4 people in prison are black or brown for non-violent drug use. however, when you do surveys white kids are doing drugs at an equal rate and they are a much bigger part of the population. why are prisons full of black and brown kids? it is easier to arrest them and convict them and they don't get as good attorneys and frankly they live in a city in a much more collected fashion than in the suburbs so police are patrolling the city more. it is unfair. war on drugs has had a racial outcome unintentional, but it has a racial outcome and i want to try to fix it. >> your bill does change some drug laws in order to try to even out the punishment for similar drugs. last question quickly, just because this brings up the whole idea of voter registration and getting people out to vote.
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hillary clinton recently proposed that there should be an automatic registering of voters once they turn 18. what do you think? >> i think voting should require a little bit of effort but i am for people voting. registration is not as big a deal for me. how we do it in fact. i've talked with other senators about maybe online registration to make it easier but voting needs to be in person. i don't like the concept of you don't even have to get off your couch to vote. i am for going to the polls but i'm also giving their voting rights back. i want everyone voting no matter who you are, democrat, republican, independent, i think the more, the better. >> senator rand paul, some of your proposals coming up in the senate this week. i understand. we will be watching that closely. >> thank you. next up, senator dianne feinstein has seen the intelligence on iraq for more than a decade. she'll tell us if the u.s. dropped the ball again.
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there's no amount of american firepower that's going to be able to hold the country together, and i made that very clear to mr. maliki and all the other leadership inside of iraq. >> joining me now, senator dianne feinstein. she is chairwoman of the senate
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intelligence committee. thank you for being here. >> you're welcome. >> that's where i want to begin. because i didn't take a poll or anything, but i imagine that most americans were surprised to learn ten days ago or a week ago that something called the isis had taken over one-third of iraq. did u.s. intelligence spot this problem? did you know of it ahead of time? and was the severity of it obvious through the intelligence? >> well, obviously we know about isis. we've seen its developments in syria. we're aware of the fact that they are recruiting fighters in europe. there have been arrests in spain, france and germany. they've tried to assassinate the head of security in beirut and they were responsible for the killing of three or four people at a brussels synagogue. they are vicious. they have killed thousands of people. they have cut off heads.
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>> they are a brutal bunch. >> we knew they were a brutal bunch. >> did we know that one-third of iraq could be taken over so quickly? did we see that coming? >> i would have to say no. but i think it is a real wake-up call for the united states, because they do want to develop the caliphate. they do want to -- they now just about destroyed the border with syria. i think the president is doing the right thing. he's being a bit circumspect. he's being thoughtful. i think we're building our so-called isr assets so that some pinpointed action can be taken. but, i think the most important thing that i can say today is that the iraqi state, as a state, is in danger, that there is a limited period of time that ayatollah ali sistani and his message that we cannot commit mistakes of the part.
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they have to move and develop a group of leaders that can reach out and reconcile. we are in the middle of a major sunni-shia war. that's my -- >> let me go back to the first point. it is a little startling to me that after some intelligence failures in the past, that the chairman of the senate intelligence committee says, yeah, it was a surprise to find out that it could move that quickly and kind of buzz their way through sunni territories. but nonetheless, so quickly and get so close to baghdad. what happened here? does that upset you? is that a failure? >> well, let's look at this practically. you either have to have the technical means up in the sky or in other places, or you have to have assets, people who will give you human intelligence. this is a different culture.
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it is very difficult to pierce. the piercing intelligence-wise from the position of human intelligence has been very difficult all along. so i think there is a view that, well, we're always going to criticize and we just can't do this. we have to build up the diversity of our intelligence assets and see that -- in north africa, in yemen, the world is a big place, candy. and this is extraordinarily difficult to do. >> is the isis an immediate threat to u.s. homeland security? >> well, i believe it can be. i believe that the recruiting in europe -- there's no question in these three places -- spain, germany -- the number of passport fighters. we know there are at least 100 americans that have gone to the arena to fight who have an
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american passport who are going to try to get back. we know that they can go back to the european country and if it is a visa waiver country, come right in to the united states. so this is where i think he we need to build our intelligence to see that we can disrupt the plot in this country before it happens. because there will be plots to kill americans. >> and worst case scenario, isis runs through baghdad. you get the sectarian war that you are talking about. iraq becomes a terrorist haven. what's the next contingency plan? for a group you say threatens u.s. shores? >> candidly, i don't know what the contingency plan is for a complete takeover of syria and iraq. i do know that once we're on the foot of a major sunni-shia war. so the question comes, what john
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kerry is doing is important. he's in cairo. hopefully he's going to meet with qatar, with saudi arabia, with other sunni nations and say, look, we need your help. at the same time, i think -- and this is my view -- that we should be talking with iran. you have to realize, sunnis are in the majority in the world, and the shia now with the mobilization of muqtada al sadr's army, that will be thousands of shiite fighters and we are on the verge of something very serious. i think we have to meet it. i think our allies have to help us and i think iran can play a major role in moving out maliki and developing a reconciliation government. that is if there is the desire to maintain iraq as a state.
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>> the supreme leader in iran has said the u.s. needs to stay out of this, maliki can handle this, iraqi troops can handle this. how much credence should we give that? >> well, i think we should stay out of it right now. i think the reconciliation has to be done through a new government in iraq. and it has to be effective. we've got to keep the kurds. we've got to enable them to have some share of oil. get outstanding tax receipts. do those kinds of things. and i think there has to be sunni participation in the government. otherwise, it is a real problem. >> and finally, i have to ask you, the former governor of montana, brian schweitzer, a fellow democrat, was discussing your role in the nsa and surveillance, et cetera, et cetera, and what you knew and didn't know. he used really unflattering terms, likening you to something -- which i'm not going to repeat because everybody can look it up on google. i know you said he better not come in a room with my husband. brian schweitzer has apologized.
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but i just want to know flat-out, what was your first reaction? >> my first reaction was that i laughed. to tell you the truth. he's got clearly a rather large mouth and all sorts of things come out. i think that's really too bad, but it is the way it is. >> it is the way it is and women have -- that have been in power for a long time understand sometimes these sorts of things happen. >> yes. >> let me just ask you quickly, has he called you to apologize? >> no. >> would that help? >> no. but it says something, doesn't it? >> it does. >> senator dianne feinstein, thank you so much. and happy birthday. we appreciate you coming and sharing a part of your birthday with us. >> candy, thank you. what is the one thing george bush warned about iraq before he left office? next, bob woodward and carl
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joining me now, two journalists whose reporting brought down president nixon
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forever changed the relationship between politicians and the media. bob woodward and carl bernstein out with the 40th edition of their book, "all the president's men." i want to start with the subject dujour, what's going on in iraq. when the war began you wrote about what was going on inside the bush administration when these decisions were being made. you said not as a democrat or a republican, but as the president -- this is you to bush -- what are you going to say to the new leader, obama, about what you are handing off in iraq? he, president bush, thought about it for a moment. what i'll say is, don't let it fail. >> yeah. wasn't that interesting? >> yeah. so i think my question to you
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both first is, knowing what we know now, is iraq failing? and write me some history already. who's going to get blamed for it? >> well, everyone is to blame and it's clearly a mess but if you look at it, i mean as senator feinstein said, they didn't really see this coming. i think in our business, the news business, we didn't do enough reporting. we kind of absorbed president obama's state of mind, oh, well, it's over, we're getting out. and clearly it is not over. so again, this goes back to the fundamentals of journalism, did we spend enough time in iraq, did we really do the excavation to understand what was going on and what was u.s. policy and really what was driving it. >> you have to go back to the original war in iraq when the press did the same thing. we went to war under false pretenses. president bush took us there. he and cheney. neoconservatives and we hadn't done our home work about the
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realities of what was going on in iraq about weapons of mass destruction. and this is one of the great disasters ongoing now through two administrations. through two terms of two administrations each. a great disaster for this country. >> so, if president bush clearly got us in to this, do you both -- now as you know, there is this great war going on between republicans and democrats, well, he lost iraq. when we look at it ten years from now, is one responsible for getting us in and the other responsible for not getting us out properly? >> well, i think if you look at -- and again, this is reporting and i agree with carl and i fault myself mightily on the weapons of mass destruction belief we had at the time of the the war. and i and people in -- i in particular should have been much more aggressive on this, but we should have been aggressive when the president said, oh, we're
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getting out. there were people in the military strongly advocating let's keep 10,000 troops there as an insurance policy. and we know we all live on insurance policies, and this is a case where they didn't do it. would it have solved the problem and made that much of a difference? we don't know. but the experts, the generals were saying -- i mean they were almost on their knees, keep some troops here and we left zero. >> carl, a former vice president, dick cheney, threw sort of gasoline on the fire this week, wrote an op-ed in the "wall street journal." among other things -- this was titled "the collapsing obama doctrine --" he and his daughter liz wrote -- terrorists take control of more territory and resources than ever before in
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history and he goes golfing. he seems blithely unaware or indifferent to the fact that a resurgent al qaeda presents a clear and present danger to the united states of america. i don't even have to ask you a question, do i? >> well, actually, there really is something off the wall about what cheney is doing and saying here given his responsibility for this. i think the psychiatrist would call it projection. blaming president obama for this morass that we are in, largely of his and his colleagues' making. but bob is absolutely right here. you said about ten years. what's it going to look like ten years from now? we don't know but we need to start doing real reporting in this town about what the hell is going on and start to come up with a notion of how various institutions are addressing real problems in real time. we're not doing it. i mean if you look at everything we've seen on this show this morning, it is indicative of that. >> yeah. and if you look at the eric cantor loss, primary loss, ending his career as the house majority leader in a district in richmond that there should have
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been reporters all over that story and everyone was caught by surprise because people weren't there, people weren't knocking on doors, people were not listen ing. the theme here is not listening and not taking the time, sitting at the computer, looking for a clever tweet or to say something on a blog rather than going out -- when we were working together on the nixon case, we could work two or three weeks on a story. editors would look at a draft and say, now wait, what about this? get more sources. drive in to this, make sure you are on solid ground.
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now if you have an advance on a story, they're in your office saying get it on the website in one hour. >> exactly. i mean, it is a matter, first of all, sometimes of economics. we all know papers, as well as cable broadcast, everybody is working with limited budgets now and yet more and more you see all of these things. it reminds you that watergate was such a template for a scandal. right? in the sense of now everything that somebody wants to have appear like a scandal or is a scandal "gate" comes at the end
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of it. in your opinion, what is out there that's a real "gate"? are there other watergates out there and we are simply missing them or do we actually know what they are and just aren't -- >> i think we ought to get back to basics. i think it is interesting where this discussion is going. rook at this 40th anniversary edition of "all the president's men." what is this book? it is kind after primer about basic reporting if you look at it after 40 years. yes, it shows the nixon administration and president nixon was a criminal president such as we've never had in our existence in this country. it was a criminal presidency from his first days in office until end. at the same time you see an institution of the press, not through a lot of hocus-pocus, not through spending a fortune, incidentally, through very basic -- we were very low paid at the time. and what did we do? we went out and knocked on a bunch of doors at night of people who worked for are president nixon and his re-election committee. and voila, what happened? well, people wanted to tell the truth as they saw it and we sat there and listened. it is kind of basic. and i think if you look at the way resources are distributed around this town particularly now, journalistic resources, i'm not so sure the problem is institutional lack of financial support. i'm not sure what all of these
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thousands of reporters -- i don't want to sound like an old guy complaining here -- which, maybe i am -- i'm not sure what they're doing. so much is going into commentary. what are the institutions that have a fortune that could finance more reporting than we've ever seen in the history of the business? three television networks. they require that their news divisions make money like they're entertainment divisions. they could finance 400 reporters each of those networks. >> to answer your question about what's out there, i mean take benghazi. i highly politicized issue. i've looked at all those e-mails that were released. it takes a day to make sense of them. and if you dig into it, there are unanswered questions. and hillary clinton was out saying, oh, you know, i'm not going to deal with this, this is politics, and so forth, and she's modified her position
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saying there are things we don't know. there are unanswered questions. carl's exactly right, you put ten people on that and you say, go to work. you don't have to give me the answers tomorrow or the next day, but take your time. the same on the irs scandal nap is a real issue. some people should move to cincinnati and get hotel rooms and say, we're going to talk to everyone who worked in that division of the irs. >> also, as happened in watergate, let some democrats get up and say we want a real bipartisan investigation of what happened in cincinnati, in the irs. get it out in the hands of the republican grandstanders who are trying to make political points instead of conduct a serious investigation, and put together and start to get some facts. as happened in watergate. >> we are coming up on the 40th anniversary of the resignation of richard nixon. bob woodward and carl bernstein. i hope you'll come back in august. by the way, the book is tremendous. not just journalism students. everybody ought to read it again if they haven't already. it is a great book. thank you both for being here. irs e-mails wanted by
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joining me around the table, s.e. cupp, host of cnn's "crossfire." republican pollster kristen soltis anderson. and cnn political commentator donna brazile. thank you for being here. i want to pick up where woodward and bernstein left off, which was with the irs. just from a political point of view, i found it fascinating that paul ryan, who may or may not want to run for president in 2016, republican, basically said to the irs guy after we learned about the missing e-mails, no one believes you, you know, you're not believable and i don't believe you. that struck me as kind of a moment in a campaign. >> yeah. paul ryan's not a grandstander. he's not one of the guys that takes every opportunity he gets to have a moment. this struck me as very genuine and what i get the sense is, paul ryan went home to wisconsin and heard from a lot of angry constituents. the american people feel as
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though they've been stone called walled from the beginning. the irs -- lois lerner clammed up, wouldn't say anything. then the missing e-mails. i think that was a very visceral reaction to probably reaction -- >> but the republicans are hell-bent on finding a conspiracy or a scandal rather than talk about jobs and the economy which americans want to talk about. the only lie is what conservatives are telling saying somehow or another this was a conspiracy against conservatives. they also investigated liberal groups, groups that have progressive in their name, groups that had israel in its name. so the irs was basically looking at everybody because they were trying to figure out where all
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of this fake, phony, secretive money was flowing in the last election cycle. >> what doesn't make sense is why not just be forthcoming? why did the e-mails disappear? i think that's the problem. >> it is the flash or hard drive. >> if these are all really scandals, these consistent sort of e-mails, the dog ate my homework is sort after bizarre response. i think that's why there are a lot of -- >> 67,000 e-mails between 2009 and 2011. then there was a crash in june of 2011 on the hard drive. any of us on computers know that sometimes they fail. that's why i switch computers. >> i think the irony was almost too rich. here is the one department had asked for you to keep five, six, seven, eight, ten years' worth of receipts! then all of a sudden the dog ate their homework and all of a sudden it couldn't be revealed. i actually think in this case the administration would do right to bring forth an independent auditor themselves
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to say, where is it? and if the hard drive has in fact crashed and the records aren't there, have that independent validater validate that point because right now we are in a little bit of a morass. there is some questions being called into it. rightly so. >> how about being proactive? otherwise, i think democrats are maybe looking at a fall. let's see the pre-election period of benghazi and irs? >> candy, i don't think so. there are sole many unknowns between now and november 4th. so i don't think those are the only two issues. those are the two issues that the republicans feel comfortable talking about because they have -- they don't want to talk about substance. they don't want to have a deep conversation about what do we do now in terms of the economy. this is all about let's find a scandal, let's find a gap -- >> no offense. you don't have to go very far to find the scandal. whether it's the irs, which is looking very, very real now.
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i mean conspiracy theories are not. it is getting really hard to believe anything that we hear. you have the va scandal which has not gone away. we have not gotten to the bottom of that. that's a non-partisan scandal. that's a horrifying situation and the american people want answers. iraq is exploding. there is, unfortunately, a lot more the american people to think about other than jobs ant economy. >> you're right, those are very important issues. i hope we get to the bottom of the irs scandal after they review all of the e-mails and come up with something other than you targeted tea party groups. the irs doesn't know how to target one side of the street. the second thing on the va scandal, that's absolutely horrible that men and women who served our country cannot come back and get the health care they need. we need -- >> who should be fired? >> why is everybody a finger pointing as opposed to let's solve the problem and move the country forward? get back to jobs and the economy. >> now that we've mentioned a lot of different things that have come up.
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poll number is from nbc news/"wall street journal." the question was can president obama lead the country and get the job done? yes, 42%. no, 54%. is this lame duckism kicking in a little early, as in pre-mid-terms? is this a trough that he'll come out of? how does he combat this? that's pretty serious. >> he should move the white house to springfield or some other capital in the country because it is about washington, d.c. people are tired of d.c. >> it is not just about washington, d.c. anymore. so the president's job approval numbers have been trending on the downward for a little while. they used to be about -- in line with where people said we don't like how he's handling the economy. but now his job approval on foreign policy has actually his historic lows. you can't just point your finger at congress for that one. people wonder if he has the ability to lead on the whole spectrum of issues that fall on his plate. with this lack of confidence voters don't seem poised to give him a more favorable congress
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coming up in the mid-term. >> you would see problem if the republicans would not stand in the way. their own job approval is so low that people know they are not worth talking about. the truth is, candy, is that it is tough. it is tough to bring washington together. it is tough to get things done. i guess candy would agree with me, if i stop talking. it is rather tough to try to move an agenda forward when the other side just want to obstruct. >> that's why they pay presidents the big bucks. >> cry me a river. >> how long can you go on and say, well, this person's fault. at some point -- >> we do play this unfortunate parlor game, how fast can we declare the lame duck presidency. the dog of the inauguration? or maybe we wait until the day after. i thought we are caught up in this parlor game but i think the president has shown from his state of the union address, he is going to pick up. the pen, pick up the phone.
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he is advocating for the minimum wage, whether to put in an executive order to allow students to repay their loans. there is action that he is doing. unfortunately, it doesn't always hit the headlines. and unfortunately a lot of the issues -- >> well, because republicans would suggest it might be off the headline and that's what makes it looks like some kind of a disconnect. >> for democrats in vulnerable red states they're actually not with him on some of those things that they're doing. >> nor are republicans in blue. >> sure. >> i got to get all of you to just hold on for a second. i have to take a quick break. when we come back i want to ask you about the hillary clinton -- >> yay! >> oh, good. >> we'll be right back. weekdays are for rising to the challenge.
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we are back with s.e. cupp, penny lee and donna brazile. just want to show a couple things to the audience. first of all, since the book launched 10, 12 days ago, hillary clinton has visited ten cities. she has given 11 interviews just on various forms of tv. this doesn't count radio, it doesn't count print media. and now we're getting the headlines of the overexposed hillary clinton. which is it? smart move to do this intense of a book tour? or a little too much too early? >> oh, no way. she has -- she's put a lot of ink out there. and i'm glad that she is out there because for four years she traveled the world. and we didn't really hear from her. we didn't know her views on these important issues like same-sex marriage. and we didn't know her views on paid maternity leave. now we know her views on these
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issues. and i think it's important she's out there, traveling the country, talking, reacquainting herself with the american people. this is good stuff. god bless hillary clinton. more, more, more. >> i disagree -- it's not that necessarily that it -- you can be out there giving interviews but you have to be saying something interesting. the things she said that have been sort of off message. and the book sales have actually not been great compared to her previous books. this is a book that was carefully vetted so that everything is perfect political statement. and i think people are tired of hearing the same old, same old. they're not going to, you know, shell out $23 for a book that is a bunch of political stuff they can hear anywhere. and i think if hillary clinton's going to out there in america's face for the next couple of months, she's got to have something authentic and something fresh to say.
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>> having thousands of people standing in line isn't -- >> they do want to hear from her. and what she's saying is, you know, i will do any interview and i'll answer any questions, and that is what the american people have wanted from her. and i think it's a great thing, and i think her tour's been phenomenally successful. and i imagine in the next month we're going to be asking, where is hillary. is there something nefarious she's come off her book tour. >> i would love her book sales, i would take them. but, you know, if you were a strategist before this book tour and you were advising hillary there's a couple of things she should watch out for. these are the things she has a tendency to fall into. don't be so hostile with the press, that doesn't look good. soften that up. be a little less arrogant. don't look above everybody else and the rules don't apply to you. and maybe don't look so out of touch with the american people. i think all three of those things showed up in this book
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tour. at some point or another. it's early enough she can correct. but -- >> to be continued. >> this ingrained behavior -- >> but it happened in 2014. >> it's true. >> she's got time to recover. >> come back. >> thank you. >> thank you all for watching, i'm candy crowley in washington. and we'll be right back. ♪ [ female announcer ] we love our smartphones. and now telcos using hp big data solutions
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as we say good-bye, i want to remind you to set your dvr. fareed zakaria starts now. this is "gps" the global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria coming to you from new york. we start with iraq, of course. i will take you there for a live update, then we will hear from an all-star panel about the u.s. plan. and if there is anything america can do that will actually help.