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the fact he was jewish was held back while he was in captivity, is that correct? >> that's true, yes, anderson, it was. many of us knew about this and voluntarily desided it was the right thing to do to compile with their witchshes. >> as far as you know, did his captors know about his dual citizen ship? because he went to school in israel. did they know he was jewish? >> you're not necessarily dealing with rational actors when you talk about isis and the people they are. so i think that there was really a tendency to air on the side of great caution here and people's lives were at stake. as journalist, even though we have a great responsibility to report the news, we're also human beings and we shouldn't do things to endanger people unnecessarily. >> of course. an israeli news organization spoke with someone held captive and he managed to fast by
pretending to be sick and secretly prayed in the direction of jerusalem after seeing the direct his captors were praying towards. it sounds like faith was an important part of his life. >> i was so moved by that story. just the thought that someone would voluntarily try to observe this holy day in such conditions. it was very inspiring. i -- we are just still now learning about who he was, and what his commitments were, but clearly, he felt very strongly about his faith and took it all seriously but i think it's also important for us to recognize this was a pman that cared a gr deal about the middle east. he was fluent in arabic and reported from libya and syria. i think he was not just a one-dimensional person. he cared a lot about the people he was trying to cover. >> it also just shows his bravery in continuing to go to
places where he knew his jewish heritage could, you know, get him into -- get him into trouble if it became more widely known and just shows the courage that he had in going to these places. >> you know, it's another example, i think, of the bravery of the journalists in covering this conflict. we know that syria has been the most dangerous country on the planet for journalists in the last couple years, and while our focus as americans is on steven sotloff and james foley, the truth is most of the 70 journalist who died in syria in the last couple of years have been syrian, and they have really been especially courageous in trying to get the word out about their country. >> and also, again, it just goes to show what kind of guy he was. so hutmuch of his reporting was focused on the impact of war on people in the region, on muslims in the region and people who
were just trying to live good and descent lives and found themselves, victimized, caught up in a war that had changed their lives forever. >> that's true, and i think that part of what we need to honor when we're honoring these journalist is that impulse. you know, the problem and the hard thing about these stories is that they may detour other people from doing this coverage, and it is just so important that these stories emerge there in the most accurate and balanced way as possible and that we do the best that we can to support this journalism. >> and jane, appreciate you being on tonight. thank you. >> thank you for having me. the sotloff family issued a statement. >> he was no war junkie. he did not want to be a modern day lawrence of arabia. he merely wanted to give voice to those who had none. steve was no hero.
like all of us, he was a mere man who tried to find good concealed in a world of darkness, and if it did not exist, he tried to create it. we will not allow our enemies to hold us hostage with the sole weapons they possession, fear. >> the white house, of course, has many weapons, military and otherwise in the fight against isis, all you need to fight and win a war critics say except one, which is clarity. vice president biden said the united states will follow isis in his words to the gates of hell. his bosses statements are harder to read. political ally kps pressed concerns, as well. today in estonia, president obama tried to undo some of that damage. >> the bottom line is this, our objective is clear, that is to degrade and destroy isil so it's no longer a threat not just to iraq but the region and to the
united states. >> jim acosta is standing by with more on that. jim? jim, the president just moments later went on to talk about shrinking isis. it seems like could be seen as being in conflict with what he just previously said. >> that's right. we heard the president both escalate and moderate his stance when it comes to what his goal is in terms of dealing with isis inpresident saying he wants to destroy the group and then says he wants to make them more manageable. here is what the president had to say. >> we can continue to shrink isil's influence, it's effectiveness, its financing, its military capabilities to the point where it is a manageable problem. >> now senior administration official just as soon as the president wrapped up the news conference came to reporters and
said the president was not walking back as goal of degrading and destroying isis, that in fact, the president was acknowledging the reality if you destroy isis and defeat, there may be remanence of the group that may potentially pose a threat to u.s. interest around the world, anderson. >> was there any indication of a timeline in the president of his administration's comments? >> no, there was not. he was pressed on this point a couple times. you recall last week the president said he doesn't have a strategy for dealing with isis in syria yet. of course, now that a week or so has gone by or not quite a week has gone by, the president was asked does he have a timetable? the president does not offer specifics on when he might authorize a military mission to go after targets in syria and that's because the president wants to come here to nato and start lining up support, lining up a coalition to broaden really the mission for going after
isis. he does not see it as a problem that can be solved solely with american military power. >> all right. jim, appreciate the update, thanks. >> you bet. want to get more on the white house's position on this. i spoke just a short time ago with tony blinken. the president said the u.s. will degrade and destroy isis. he also said, though, that the u.s. can continue to shrink isis to the point where it's a manageable problem. to be clear, is the plan to destroy isis or shrink it to a manageable problem? >> the plan is to destroy it. on the way, we need to shrink it to a manageable problem. what the president said is consistent. you start by trying to disrupt it and we have taken actions to do that in iraq but the strikes we've taken and iraqi forces moving in to take a territory that isil abandoned. it moved from the toes to its heels and that's when it becomes a manageable problem and finally
over time, with a large coalition, you get to the point of defeating it. so what the president was talking about is continuing. the goal is gear, we'll defeat isil. >> is what you're describing, though, possible without u.s. military action inside syria? >> what we're focused on right now anderson is building an effective coalition and getting effective partners. in the first instance on the iraqi said, we're looking at government formation that could happen next week to bring us a more effective partner. security forces are more focused and sunnis that are sometimes supportive see they have a steak in working with the government. in syria, we've been working hard to build up an opposition and we'll take additional measures to build them up. the president talked about this going back some monthsi working with congress. they can be the effective force on the ground in syria.
there is a whole comprehensive approach into play. the president is being deliberate about building it. there is a military piece. there is a training piece for local actors. there is dealing with financing, propaganda and so-called legitima legitimate. >> you talk about training forces and talk about arming forces in syria. they were talking about that for months and what we hear from people from the free syrian army, it's not happening in any large scale degree. they are out gunned, out manned against isis and the assad regime. >> anderson, this takes time. what we're seeing is we haven't seen it before is that virtually all the countries in the region, including countries that don't get along or find common cause are more and more united. it's an immediate threat to them. as those resources begin to be
marshalled, as they get into this effort, as they get into supporting what we're trying to do with the moderate opposition, what we're trying to do with iraqi security forces, i think the efforts will be more effective. >> you would agree, isis, the goal is to defeat them, you can't defeat isis until you defeat them in syria as well as in iraq. >> yeah, you have to shrink the space. it has to be sluhrunk in iraq a less support and ultimately, the same thing in syria and it's clear today, this is an effort that will take time. it's going to take a significant coalition and we're deliberately comprehensively putting in place the pieces to do that. >> appreciate your time. thank you. >> thanks, anderson. >> let's talk about the strategy and criticism, whether it's fair or not and we'll talk to chief
national correspondent john king. peter, you said the political mood is changed. the president is under overwhelming pressure to take more action against isis. what changed the political mood? is it the executions of the americans? >> it's the executions of the americans. if you remember last fall when we were talking about obama launching strikes in response to assad's chemical weapons, most were against it because it seemed remote to them, didn't seem to deal with american national security. what isis has done by beheading americans is take an elite discourse from which most were disengaged and make it a popular discourse. there is a sense of a real tremendous gut level anger there and the way you can tell is that candidates are starting to talk about this on the stump. over the summer you didn't see republicans attacking ocbama ovr his syrian policy. they are starting to run campaign ads and democrats are calling for action.
for better or worse, the beheadings changed the political climate among americans. >> john, what do you think about the white house? it's not just john mccain and lindsey gram. year -- you're hearing from democrats. >> they would say they have problems, even a disaster. most of them say the cautious approach is the right approach because if you go after targets in syria, which everybody assumes will happen, you better get targets right and trust intelligence and work on a safety plan, rescuing the pilots and things like that. from a policy standpoint, the caution is probably well placed from a political standpoint when you mentioned, you know, today degrade and destroy and manageable. again, if you talk to the experts, that's not a conflict, that the political solutions, do you see political we form in iraq or syria happening during the president obama presidency? that's a problem for the president. from a communication standpoint, you have liberals, knot just
conservatives, not just frequent obama critics saying do something now mr. president that tells you about the environment. they need to communicate and most believe the president needs to do what tony did with you, explain this in a calm, rational way and acre knowledge this is a generational challenge like taking down al qaeda. >> peter, you think the president, though, is trying to do the right thing tuning out the drum beat and trying to give as much thought as possible before sending u.s. aircraft over syria, for instance. >> right, because the basic reality is we cannot take territory from the air. we can hurt isis but somebody else on the ground has to take that territory. not very many people have a great answer about who that is going to be. the people we would like it to be, the free syrian army are weak and often times we can't really tell so easily where they end and where the jihads begin. you can see that would be different had ocbama got more behind but we are we are and if
you want to bomb isis but have gains on the ground not go to as sat, not go to other jihads, al qaeda had another affiliate which is strong, you actually have to be in a much better position to strengthen the moderates in syria than we probably are right now. >> yeah, and john, because it's interesting you hear from tony as you said who is painting this picture that the u.s. is supporting the opposition left in syria for a long time now. the facts on the ground seem to be different. we heard complaints all along from the free syrian army they are not getting arms, not getting support they are desperately in need of. >> as peter laid out, that's why administration says we need time to put it together and say if we go after the military targets, the leadership targets, what is going to change on the ground if we are successful and how do we keep that from a short-term good
becoming a long-term bad. that's the dilemmas among the american people and definitely across the political spectrum. so the question is what do they do? do they continue to say we need more time? the president was taunted by these guys. the bar barrens, his approach is to take his time and build the coalition but don't be surprised if they look for targets of opportunit opportunity, if one or two pops up to remind people they are looking fortargets. >> they are doing that in iraq. syria is the question right now. john king, peter, thank you. >> you can watch 360 whenever you want. coming up next going on for two hours tonight, new information in this hour about what the intelligence is learning about the sotloff murder video. details about who these people are, who these masked killers are.
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>> reporter: cnn learned u.s. intelligence is doing a forensic examine nation of the execution videos of steven sotloff and james foley. they are looking at the man that may be the executioner, mannerisms, voice, facial features. it appears to be the same man in both videos. notice the accent when he utters this pace. >> you, obama -- >> compare to the a similar phrase in the foley video. >> but a week and a half after saying they were close to identifying him, british officials had no comment if they asked if that is imminent. how can they narrow it down? >> the eyes are key. >> they will look at the shape, the droop in all these frames, both in august 19th and september 2nd. >> during the iraq war, he investigated every militant beheading video for the cia. the tilt of the head is distinct, the way he holds his
knife in his left hand and. >> he laces up his boots in a very strange manner. he doesn't lace them up all the way in both september 2nd and august 19th. he laces them up half way, which is a very strange sort of tick for an individual to do. >> is this the man that really executed foley and sotloff? the moment of death isn't shown so it's not clear. >> if you actually look at the videos that have at the very end, where they hold up the next hostage, his hands are clean and his tunic is clean suggesting he didn't do it. >> as horrific as the videos are, they are a recruiting tool for isis. >> people with this extreme ideology have enormous pornographic attraction to these brutal acts. it inspires them, energizes
them. they feel isis is strong and can stand up with the united states. it's a force to be reckoned with. >> new information about the videos, they say the u.s. intelligence community determined the sotloff video was shot separately and later than the foley video, so they were not shot in the same session. brian todd, washington. >> there is obviously still a lot to learn, intel jenligence communities around the world are looking into. homeland security advisor fran townson and the process of identifying who this guy is and also maybe several people, it's got to be incredibly difficult. is there a chance they won't be able to identify him or are you confident they will? >> they have this -- these samples of his voice and they will go through it scientifically breaking down how
he makes pronoununciations and e those samples and bounce them against, you know, millions of hours worth of databases of counterterrorism conversations they have collected over more than the last decade. so the likelihood they will be able to take these known samples and identify them against what they have already captured is pretty good. remember, it's not just the united states working alone there. they are obviously working with british counter parts. so i'm reasonably confident that forensics will help to definitively identify the man that appears in this video. >> phil, it seems hard to imagine someone in great britain where it seems one of these people in the video is at least from, doesn't already recognize that voice, family members, friends, i would imagine more than one person recognizes that voice, no? >> fran, this is really a tragedy. the tragedy here is look,
somebody knows who this guy is. we have not only one data point, we got two over the course of weeks with the level of english that he speaks, you got to presume he went to school there, has friends and family and a social circle. i agree with fran. he's going to be identified possibly by intelligence. somebody might slipover time by example and identify them in an intercept but the fact is a couple of weeks have gone by where tens of thousands or millions of brits have seen them. at least one of them have to know who he is. it's not just tracking him in syria. it's the fact are there people on the ground who gave him money and provided false documents and made the passage through you thh europe and turkey possible? that's what i would be worried about. >> we know in past cases, the cases of americans, there are
people willing to pay for them to travel. we heard from the mother of one american who died overseas who said somebody was paying for her son to go to kenya, her son ended up in somalia and she was suspicious. there are these networks. >> that's right, anderson. once you identify him, you'll work backwards and find what is the pipeline, the network he used. how is he recruited from p presumab presumably great britain. the brits raised the terrorist level and are concerned this network extends back into great britain where there are sympathizers and supporters and it is critical not simply because this guy may have been the executioner and participated in the execution but because of the network that probably remains behind and the pipeline
that continues to feet into syria and actually greater threat back into the great britain. >> phil, a number of the foreigners who have died in syria, in iraq, they died in battles. so it's not as if they are held because they are foreigners and used in a special capacity. you think it's very likely this person, the people who are responsible for the killing of jim foley and steven sotloff may die on the ground fighting for western nations find them? >> i think there is a chance we'll find them. he's put in front of the camera not because he's a senior isis guy but he can communicate. if he's low level, we'll not identify him as an individual and hit him with a drone. he'll mix with people, bad guys, hit either by an aircraft, maybe
as a group by a drone or a fire fight. he's not coming home, though. the guys i watch are passionate about the fight, not only passionate but friends around them tell them to stay. he's going to stay until he dies. >> appreciate you being on. frank, you as well. in her first interview, american missionary nancy writebol describes her battle to survive ebola. she tells me how close she came to death and what she believes saved her life. e starts with kn. and a choice. take 6 tylenol in a day or just 2 aleve for all day relief. onward! ♪
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the man in the red shirt is carrying a stick. he tested positive for ebola and left from a quarantine center and went to a market looking for food. watch what happens next as ha k masked medical workers try to get him. crowds are obviously very angry at him. medical workers surround him and talk him back into coming and put him forcibly into an ambulance that took him back into the quarantine zone. there was a struggle here. obviously, this is a great danger to the medical workers because any kind of contact with fluids from the person who is positive can be a huge risk and end up killing some of those medical workers. it happened in liberia's capitol where a third american
contracted ebola. today we learned his name. he's an american doctor named rick sacra. his wife is very kconcerned and praying with friends and family. he was working with the missionary group as the other americans that got sick with sim usa. dr. kent bradley and nancy writebol, both survived. this week nancy writebol sat down with me for her first interview. first of all, how are you feeling? >> great. i'm just regaining strength each and every day. >> you look great, you look like you're glowing. >> she is full of laughter and release after surviving the ebola virus, one of the deadliest on earth. >> were you afraid? >> you know what? i was not afraid. >> nancy says she wasn't afraid because of her faith. she and her husband david are missionaries and been married for 40 years and for the past 15
years served in missionaries. in august of 2013 they found themselves faced with an opportunity to serve in africa. >> we really sensed that's where god would have us to go. >> do you know what it was about liberia that drove you. >> the mission hospital. >> they both worked at the mission hospital. after the outbreak, nancy began working in the ebola ward making sure doctors and nurses were suited up properly before entering the isolation unit. did you see ebola patients? did you start to see the effects of ebola on the people you were there to serve? >> yes, i actually had the opportunity more to talk with families and that was what was hard because when you saw patients that weren't responding and you knew that their time was limited and we talk about ebola as ebola, but you know what,
ebola has names and faces and it has families. >> ebola is also very isolating kind of an i flaffliction, a disease, you become infected and placed in a place you cannot get to anyone else and no one else can get to you. >> the isolation of the disease was a reality to nancy and david in july of this year when she suddenly became ill. had you thought it could possibly be ebola? >> no, i didn't -- it didn't worry me at all. >> even though you were working in a unit of ebola patients? >> yeah, and i mean, even now, i look back and i don't really know how i got it. >> so they said to you, we'll test you for ebola. >> uh-huh, so i said okay. and so they drew the blood, of course and david came home pretty quickly and he came into the room and he said, nancy, i
need to tell you some things. i said okay. and he said kent has ebola, and i just -- and i was just sick. >> dr. brantly. >> yeah, when david told me and then after i kind of regrouped from that, he said and nancy, you do, too. and i remember i could hear people at the front door, and i remember getting up and i remember that david wanted to put his arms around me, and of course, i had fever and i just said don't, don't. i don't want you to touch me because, you know, touching, who knows, and so i said -- >> that must have been so hard. >> it was. so i said but david, it's going
to be okay. it's going to be okay. >> but you couldn't be there. >> i couldn't be there. >> you couldn't hold her. >> no, no, i did go in to the house and just to be near her -- >> ppe is the -- the. >> the personal protection equipment and just to be near to her, to touch her through a gloved hand and just to tell her that i loved her and that she was so beautiful. i still tell her that, and i will never stop. because she's the best part of my life and so i love her. and so i wanted to be near her as much as i could. >> did you plan for, for her death? did you -- >> we talked about it. >> did you think -- >> yeah, well that's one of the difficult things about that. if she did die, what would we do? you know, how would we --
because there couldn't be a -- there couldn't be a bring the body back home and have a funeral and that kind of thing. >> did you know those conversations were going on? >> no, i'm glad. >> did you think about that, about well, if i die, will my body be brought back to america? >> i never really thought about it so much, only when they put me on the airplane and i knew that i was saying good-bye to dave and not knowing whether i would live the plane ride. >> that plane ride was in early august after nancy was given a dose of z map. she arrived the emery hospital on august 4th and soon her condition began to improve. >> all the supportive care they were doing was amazing, and so to say that the serum was -- i don't know that you can say only the serum is what works.
the supportive care is really critical. >> after three weeks of care, nancy was finally declared free of the virus. do you remember what you said when you left isolation? >> i do. to god be the glory. >> there was never a moment of why me? >> no, i don't think so. well, maybe moments of what next? but not necessarily why me. >> and now there is word another american doctor has contracted ebola. do you know him? >> uh-huh , well. >> when you heard that, what did you think? >> i was just very saddened. >> i guess the question everyone would ask is would you ever go back? >> i would. >> you would? you would go back to liberia? >> i would. i offered to go back yesterday.
[ laughter ] >> did you really? >> i did. >> even now to go back while the ebola crisis -- >> i offered to go back to help take care of our doctor. >> did you, really? >> i did. >> when you heard the doctor say he was infected, you volunteered to go back? >> yeah, i said i would go back and david looked at me. >> you had discussed that? >> we had not discussed that? >> we would be willing to serve wherever we could do the most good and god would lead us, liberia, there, if someplace else, at this stage we don't know. >> or if he says stay, we'll stay. we don't know. >> but you'll serve in one way or another? >> absolutely. we will serve. >> their faith is remarkably strong. the american doctor infected, it is not clear how he got it because he was not treating patients none to be positive, just as nancy herself doesn't
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welcome back, we have more breaking news, late word that the justice department is ready to launch a civil investigation into the missouri police department. the probe will focus on practicing and training. today the grand jury that will decide whether or not to charge officer darron wilson met for the third time. tonight a legal battle is raging over brown's juvenile court records. two petitions for the release, the lawyers were in court today and the hearing in st. louis, a court official said michael brown had no serious felony convictions as a juvenile. the judge didn't give a timeline for the decision and joining me
to talk about it, jeffrey toobin and mark geragos and reeva martin. should michael brown's juvenile records be released? >> it pains me to say it, anderson, as a journalist because i'm always prodisclosure but i think the answer is no. the law in missouri is that juvenile cases remain secret and there really is not an exception because we're all really curious. i think a lot of people, particularly on the political right want this information to discredit michael brown and prove he somehow had this coming. i don't think that's a valid justification at all. the law is the law and i don't think it should be disclosed at this point. >> mark, one of the lawyers for the news organizations argued the primary reason to keep juvenile records confidential is
protect a child from becoming an adult saddled with a stigma of a criminal record but that expired when michael brown died according to this lawyer, do you agree? >> that is an argument because the basis for sealing the you e juvenile records, we don't want somebody saddled with that in adulthood. in this case, the interesting thing will be whether, and i think it will turn, if there is a criminal case filed, then i think under missouri law you will see if they haven't already released the records, the defense will get the records at that point. and that doesn't mean they will be admissible but they will go in, they will make a petition in front of that judge where this -- the judge who supervises the juvenile court and will get access because they will argue that is something they need that can lead to admissible evidence. there the news outlets win it
now or if there is a criminal case, the judge has to reveal it later. i think it's going to come out. aviva, you say the records are completely irrelevant. do you believe that and if it turns out officer wilson somehow knew michael brown or knew of any potential cases he had as a juvenile? >> you know, i think that's the question that's puzzling and bothering so many people anderson is how could officer wilson had known anything about michael brown or his record at the time he stopped him that would have justified the excessive force used in this case and i think also there is a concern who is a legitimate party here, who has a legitimate interest in the records? mark talks about the defense perhaps petitioning the court and that seems more plausible than the media who says they want to find out if the claims that michael was a gentle giant
as his parents said is true or not and they want to examine his character. that concerns me because it plays into the theory you have to be a perfect victim in order to get justice in some of these high-profile police cases and i think we saw it in trayvon martin and other cases and that's really troubling, i think to the african american community and lots of people who are concerned about what is happening in police forces with respect to african american males. >> jeff, in terms of who was said in the court, court officials said michael brown was never convicted of a serious a level or b level felony as a you've nile. given that, it's possible he could have been charged with one or he could have made a plea deal for a lesser charge. i want to be clear what was said in the course. >> i think what was said in court was said with considerable precision for just the reason you're suggesting. it is important to say he was not a felon. he has never been convicted of a felony. i think that's an important part of the public record in this
case. but what his relationship, if any, to the criminal justice system remains pretty mysterious at this point, whether he's ever been charged with a felony, whether he's plead guilty to a misdemeanor or anything else or even had a conviction in a family court setting, that is unknown at this point. >> you know, anderson, the way that it was parsed today leads me to believe there is a mechanism in the juvenile courts even in that state where by even if you're charged, if you stay clean for six months or a year, depending on the jurisdiction, they will dismiss the charge. they have it. it's a juvenile diversion and it sure sounded to me from the language use in court that that's probably what transpired here. there was no conviction because once you complete this informal or formal diversion, they had two methods that then the record basically, there is no conviction and you can literally
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