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>> a big drink. that's it. way to go, peter. thanks for watching, everyone. wolf starts right now. i'm wolf blitzer in washington. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. josh earnings the white house press secretary speaking out on isis. the war that's going on against isis in iraq and syria. i wanted to listen in quickly. >> history about the aumf he's going to try to work on with congress, does he actually think that it's legally necessary to get a new authorization because of what he foresees about either the length or what this mission will entail going forward? >> the president believes that congress has already given him all of the authority that he needs to conduct this campaign against isil. that authority was confirmed by congress on the president when they passed the 2001 authorization to use military force. according to a wide variety of
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administration lawyers, the president has the authority that he needs based on that piece of legislation that congress has already passed. what the president has said, is that he believes that it is beneficial to the broader effort if we send a very clear signal to the international community, both to our allies and to our enemies, that the executive branch and the legislative branch are on the same page when it comes to the strategy and that's why the president believes that it would be very helpful for congress to pass an authorization to use military force, to essentially right size and modernize the authority that congress gives to the president to reflect the conflict that we're currently waging. and the president thinks that it would be good for the country and would be beneficial to our broader effort. >> even as lawmakers can't come to an agreement with the president about a new aumf he
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will press forward with this mission. that doesn't change plans. >> that's correct. congress has given him this authority in 2001 when they passed the authorization to use military force that year. >> one other thing, he talked on keystone about letting the process play out, waiting for the nebraska supreme court decision before the administration review. does that mean if congress sends him a bill authorizing construction of the pipeline before that internal administration review is complete, he would veto that legislation? >> well, i -- we haven't seen sort of what congress is prepared to do specifically on this. >> lawmakers have said mcconnell and boehner said that is a top priority. >> and the president has been clear there is an established -- firmly established precedent dealing for these kinds of issues and a process we're committed to. that's a process that currently is winding its way through the state department and one that right now, is at least going to be influenced by the decision
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from a nebraska judge about the proper route for that pipeline through that state. so, you know, we'll consider any sort of proposals that are passed by congress including a rider like this that you're right, does seem to pretty directly contradict the position that's been adopted by this administration but also the position that's been taken by previous administrations as they've considered pipelines of this sort. >> so there he is, the white house press secretary, josh earnest answering reporters' questions on the keystone pipeline saying the administration, no rush, at least not yet, to go ahead and authorize it to approve it despite growing pressure from the new republican ma jjority i the house and senate to go forward with that keystone pipe line from canada through the united states to the gulf of mexico. earlier he was making the point the president does not believe congress needs to pass additional legislation authorizing the use of force against isis in iraq and syria. the white house believing it already has that authorization, although there is now an effort
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under way to go ahead in congress and try to pass some sort of legislation. the white house saying they would welcome legislation but they think the president already has that authority. let's go to our pentagon correspondent barbara starr working this story for us. tell us about some new targets that the united states and its coalition partners in iraq and syria have launched strikes against. what are we learning? >> wolf, very busy and important night for u.s. war planes over the skies of syria last night. five targets were struck that were targets associated with the co cora san group. it's hard core al qaeda in syria operatives that move from pakistan to syria a number of years ago. the u.s. say they are an imminent threat to the u.s. because these twice are capable of trying to make the bombs that can get past airport screening. last night five targets were struck and the u.s. believes it killed a key khorasan operative,
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a french jihadist named david drugeon, 24 years old, moved to syria recently from pakistan. knows how to make those bombs that can get past airport security. they had been looking for him for weeks. you'll remember, back on september 22nd, an initial round of strikes, missed the top khorasan leaders. now today they do believe they got this khorasan operative as he was riding down a road in syria in a vehicle. wolf? >> this is still a very high priority to go after not only isis targets, other al qaeda targets, but the split off group khorasan. that's a major u.s. target, right? >> it is, wolf, for the very crucial reason that the threat they pose is the potential capability to reach out and get their weapons, their bombs, past airport security in europe, possibly even the united states. now this guy drugeon he's french, and so he also had the capability to facilitate the
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movement of terrorists back and forth from europe into syria, back to europe, possibly even back to the united states. people call the khorasan right now al qaeda's a-team. that's how serious a threat they pose. getting drugeon, a start, but the khorasan group, u.s. officials say, still very much a threat to the united states. >> president obama clearly making it obvious that the u.s. is going to continue this policy of these targeted killings of what it regards as terrorist leaders, whether in iraq, syria, pakistan or any place else. yemen or somalia, come to mind as well. that's going to continue probably will escalate in the coming weeks and months. thanks very much. the u.s. not only carried out those strikes against khorasan but as part of a greater anti-isis coalition they're launching other strikes in syria as well. let's bring in nick paton walsh joining us from the border between turkey and syria. what are you picking up over there, nick?
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>> as part of those air strikes around, there was perhaps an unintended or intended consequence, one of the buildings hit as they went after them, which hasn't figured much on the battlefield at all, they weren't a name particular to most of syria, part of those strikes overnight hit a political headquarters for another organization known as ahrar al sham. they are syrian rebels not linked to al qaeda, not allied to al qaeda and not prescribed as a terror group by the united states. their building was certainly hit according to monitors and activists and witnesses on the ground. that may be because the u.s. was trying to get some horazan members inside at the time. there are a lot of quite confused and angry syrians who consider the u.s. targeting, nusra, an al qaeda affiliate, but have popularity among
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syrians because they fight febtively against the syrians in the war, now they're targeting ahrar al sham, two groups to protect from the syrian regime. that's raising confusion, bewilderment about the u.s. intentions in the strikes they're making on nonisis targets like nusra and contributing to a sense of malaise about where the u.s. bombing campaign is going in syria. >> as you know it gets complicated, this war that's going on in syria, nick, nusra is considered an al qaeda split off by the u.s. government, the state department regards this nusra front as a terrorist organization, yet as you correctly point out, moderate syrian rebels have from time to time cooperated with these nusra fighters because they both are committed after going after the bashar al assad regime. there is this unofficial alliance, shall we say, that deeply irritates u.s. officials and complicates what's going on on on the ground, right? >> absolutely. doesn't make things simple for u.s. policymakers. you have a fund mental problem
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here. ahrar al sham a large group, the only really effective moderate rebel force inside syria. if you want to back somebody to fight back against isis or the regime those are the guys you to go to. now it seems the u.s. have hit ahrar al sham and they claim in their statement they weren't going after nusra, they were going after the elusive group we haven't heard much of until the u.s. decided to hit them. hitting them they're damaging the u.s. image in the eyes of syrian moderate rebels and many syrians too. a lot of people saying is the u.s. trying to get all the syrians left inside syria aggravated with them somehow? wolf? >> quickly, nick, what's the status now in the battle for kobani? >> peshmerga are inside, they are holding they say significantly more territory than they used to. they've pushed back to the east and west. we are hearing from kurdish officials they're resupplying ammunition on a regular basis. isis haven't given up the fight as yet. there is still a battle going on
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for that city and it's still vitally important as a symbolic city, wolf? >> nick paton walsh on the border between turkey and syria not far from kobani himself, thanks very much. just moments, the house speaker john boehner expected to make his first address since the huge republican victory on tuesday. is his party in the house of representatives ready to work with the white house, with the president if we'll hear from the house speaker coming up momentarily. coming up, the newly reelected governor of colorado, john hickenlooper, talking about marijuana, politics, partisan gridlock and a lot more. attacks on israelis on the rise as tensions simmering near a boiling point in and around jerusalem. are we looking at the beginning of what potentially could be a third intifada? i have the worst cold with this runny nose. i better take something. dayquill cold and flu doesn't treat your runny nose. seriously? alka-seltzer plus cold and cough fights your worst cold symptoms
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a new republican dominating congress. looking to secure his legacy can they find possible common ground, tax reform, maybe trade deals. cooperation less likely on climate change, on immigration reform. the president is sticking by his plan toish auto shoo an executive order unless congress passes legislation and on obama care, republicans appear to be doubling down on their effort to try to repeal it. let's bring in our chief political analyst gloria bore sher and congressional correspondent dana bash, dana up on capitol hill where we're waiting for the news conference, the house speaker about to speak. dana, set the scene. what does it look like? what will we hear from the speaker? >> the capitol hill press corps is back together again. the band is back together. that's a fun way to put it because we are all waiting to see what the speaker is going to say about how he's going to
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handle this ex panneded majority. a historic majority republicans are going to have coming back in january. i'm told he is going to say something we've heard him say a lot which is where are the jobs. talking about job growth and the need for republicans to harness their new complete control of congress by dealing with jobs, but i'm told that we can likely expect the speaker to tweak the president a little president on what republicans here on capitol hill thought was kind of a bit of a defiant tone that he had in his big press conference yesterday, not taking responsibility for some of the dysfunction here in washington and the losses that democrats felt. i think those are the kind of things we're going to hear from the speaker. >> stand by for a moment. gloria, this article john boehner and mitch mcconnell wrote in the wall street journal "today," among other things, they said what they need to do is renew our commitment to repeal obama care which is
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hurting the job market along with americans' health care. so the president may be saying he's going to pass -- he's going to sign executive orders for immigration reform going around congress. they're saying they're going to continue their fight to get rid of obama care. >> if they try to do it legislatively he'll try to take out his veto pen and do it that way. they have other ways they can try and fix or parts of obama care and that is, you know, mitch mcconnell is a real tactician, he can attach things to the budget, wolf, which only requires 51 votes. the president doesn't have to sign it. if he wants to do some things that way, it wouldn't require the president's signature. watch for that to happen. these republicans ran on repealing obama care. they know that's not going to happen, but there are parts of it that they know that they can try and fix. they don't want to repeal lots of them don't want to repeal the things that people like.
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you know, no penalty for preexisting condition, for example. who wants to take that away? people don't want to do that and lots of republicans don't want to do that either. >> dana, you know this better than most of us, there's no doubt that mitch mcconnell will be the next senate majority leader. i don't think there's going to be any serious opposition on the republican side. john boehner, i assume he's going to remain as the speaker of the house, right? >> he sure wants to. it doesn't look like there's any real opposition to him at this point. it would not be a surprise if you saw some token challenges from some of the more conseb servetive members of the republican party, maybe others that want to make a statement to the leadership and constituencies back home that they're not entirely thrilled with the leadership here. . at the end of the day it is fully expected that the speaker will continue in his role as the speaker and then the leaders underneath him will as well. but that kind of speaks to one of the questions that gloria was talking about, and you were too,
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which is the fact that both he and mitch mcconnell in their op-ed in the "wall street journal" this morning talked about repealing obama care, something that they know is never going to happen in a veto-proof way while president obama is in the white house and yet they still put it in this op-ed. it sort of speaks to the whole issue of conservative caucus and the need that republican leaders still feel to throw them a bone, frankly, and to make them feel that they understand what conservatives want and that is to do full repeal of obama care. >> they're not going to do it, right? >> practically they know it's not going to happen. >> exactly. >> even if the president were to veto any legislation repealing obama care, there's not enough votes, you need a two-thirds override in the house and senate, and the republicans don't have a two-thirds override to go ahead and repeal obama care. at least the numbers don't add up. yes? >> obama care was not the top issue in this election. the economy was.
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but republicans used it as the underpinning for a narrative that said, this is a government that's too large, it's too out of control, and this is an administration that's so incompetent it couldn't manage the rollout of obama care. so in that sense, obama care became a much broader message for them than just the health care policy itself and it worked for them very well. >> they're all going over to the white house tomorrow, dana, the republican leadership, the democratic leadership. i think the president has invited 16, eight from the house, eight from the state, democrats and republicans, for lunch tomorrow. i guess they're going to try to set a new tone. i don't know how successful they might be. both sort of in advance of that meeting laying out some tough positions. >> they are. but you got to start somewhere and the whole rap on the dysfunction in washington, the core of it at least, is that these guys don't know each other and so you got to at least get together, break bread which what
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is they're going to do tomorrow, certainly don't expect anything big or even maybe small to be resolved there, but that isn't the point. it's to sit down and have -- have a conversation and do so in maybe a bit of a relaxed setting, although i don't know how relaxed you can be at the white house. but i'm also told that in addition to talking about how they can work together, both in the lame-duck session which is going to start next week, also in the next congress, which is in january, there are some big issues that the administration and congress are dealing with and have to deal with, ebola, the threat of isis, the fact that the president is engaged in strikes in the middle east, air strikes, which he will likely need some form of congressional approval for, there are other major issues on the agenda as much. >> stand by, dana and gloria, both stand by. looks like the speaker running a few minutes late. when we come back we'll hear from the speaker of the house john boehner.
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when out of nowhere a pick-up truck slams into your brand new car. one second it wasn't there and the next second... boom! speaker of the house, john boehner. >> hope you didn't believe it. >> i'm going to start by congratulating my friend, senator mitch mcconnell. mitch and i have worked very closely together over the last eight years, and i don't think i could ask for a better partner or do i think the senate could have a better majority leader than mitch mcconnell. also i want to express my gratitude to the people of ohio's eighth congressional district. my mission is the same today as it was in 1990 when i was first elected to build a smaller, less
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costly and more accountable government here in washington, d.c. and right now i believe that means continuing to listen, to make the american people's priorities our priorities. and to confront the big challenges that face middle-class families starting with the economy. you've heard me talk many times about the many jobs bills that the outgoing state majority has ignored. those bills will offer the congress i think a new start. we can act on the keystone pipeline, restore the 40-hour work week that was gutted by obama care. and pass the hire more heros act that would encourage our businesses to hire more of our veterans. and again, this is just a start. i've been going around the country outlining my own personal vision for how we can re-set america's economic foundation. the energy boom that's going on
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in america is real. and i think it provides us with a very big opportunity. but to maximize that opportunity i believe that we need to do five things, and that is fix our broken tax code, address the debt that's hurting our economy and imprisoning the future of our kids and grandkids, reform our legal system, reshape our regulatory policy to make bureaucrats more accountable and to give parents more choices in a system that isn't educating enough of america's children. now finding common ground will be hard work, but it will be harder if the president isn't willing to work with us. yesterday we heard him say that he may double down on his go it alone approach. listen, i've told the president before, he needs to put politics aside and rebuild trust and rebuilding trust not only with the american people, but with the american people's
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representatives here in the united states congress. this is the best way to deliver solutions to get the economy going again, and to keep the american dream alive and well. this will be the focus of our new majority and i'm eager to get to work. >> [ inaudible ]. between this new republican majority in the white house? >> listen you've all heard me say starting two years ago yesterday, that our immigration system is broken and needs to be fixed. but i've made clear to the president that if he acts unilaterally on his own outside of his authority, he will poison the well and there will be no chance for immigration reform moving in this congress. it's as sim ple as that. >> the second paragraph of your
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op-ed with mitch mcconnell in the "wall street journal" talked about obama care. how do you walk this balance without getting sucked back into that game of the congress, so it isn't the predominant issue, new freshmen coming in who never had a chance to vote for repeal on obama care, try to tweak this to vote for [ inaudible ]? >> obama care is hurting our economy. it's hurting middle-class families. and it's hurting the ability for employers to create more jobs. now, so the house, i'm sure, at some point next year, we'll move to repeal obama care because it should be repealed and it should be replaced with common sense reforms that respect the doctor/patient relationship. now, whether that can pass the senate i don't know. but i know in the house it will pass. but we're going to pass it. but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't do other things. there are bipartisan bills that have passed the house, sitting
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in the senate, that would, in fact, make changes to obama care. you know, there's a bipartisan majority in the house and senate for repealing the medical device tax. i think there's a bipartisan majority in the house and senate for getting rid of the independent payment advisory board, the rationing board in obama care. how about the individual mandate? a lot of democrats and republicans who believe this is unfair. just because we may not be able to get everything we want, doesn't mean we shouldn't try to get what we can. >> issues potentially votes, siphon this congress back into this obama care and then the number gets up into the 60s or 70s in terms of roll call? [ inaudible ]. >> listen, there are bipartisan majorities in the house and senate to take some of these issues out of obama care. we need to put them on the president's desk and let him
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choose. >> you heard the president say that he basically gave you a year waiting for you to be able to deliver on immigration reform and that in this post-election period he's ready to act. and then he would pull back those executive orders if you can have legislation that works. could that be a catalyst for you to actually get something done? >> no, because i believe that the president continues to act on his own, he is going to poison the well. when you play with matches, you take the risk of burning yourself. he's going to burn himself if he continues to go down this path. the american people made it clear election day, they want to get things done and they don't want the president acting on a unilateral basis. >> mr. speaker, how do you expect the president to trust that you really want to work together? out of the gate you say you want to repeal his signature law you know has no chance of getting a veto proof majority, how do you expect him to trust you? >> listen, my job is to listen to the american people.
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the american people have made it clear they're not for obama care. ask all those democrats who lost their elections tuesday night. a lot of them voted for obama care. so my job is not to get along with the president just to get along with him, although we have actually have a nice relationship, the fact is, my job is to listen to my members and listen to the american people and make their priorities our priorities. >> mr. speaker, "the wall street journal" out with a report saying president obama has sent a secret letter to iran's supreme leader on fighting isis. your reaction, sir? >> i don't trust the iranians. i don't think that we need to bring them into this. i would hope that the negotiations that are under way are serious negotiations. but i have my doubts. >> if having heard your reiterated threats the president says fine i won't take executive action on immigration can you
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guarantee him you will hold votes on immigration legislation next year? >> i want to talk to my members about how to move forward but i have made my position clear. it is time for the congress of the united states to deal with a difficult issue in our society. this immigration issue has become a political football over the last ten years or more. it's just time to dole with it. >> -- deal with it? >> can your party's nominee afford to run if you have not acted on -- >> this is not about politics. this is trying to do the right thing for the country. >> mr. speaker, you -- isn't the idea of repealing obama care third or fourth line in your op-ed today, isn't in a sense some way poisoning the well interest your angle? >> no. >> when you go to the white house tomorrow? >> no. our job is to make the american people's priorities our priorities. they don't like obama care. i don't like it. it's hurting our economy. the president said, i listened
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to what happened tuesday night. really? >> how is it hurting the economy? how do you -- >> well, if you spent as many nights on the road as i have over the last two years, you would hear from employers of every strife from large to small to medium in every industry and when you listen to these employers talk about the concerns they have over what it means for their work force, what it means for their employees, and you see them hesitate in terms of hiring more people, it's pretty clear to me. >> mr. speaker, you a new crop of conservatives coming into the house who have suggested among other things women need to submit to the authority of their husbands, hillary clinton is the anti-christ and that feelings of sandy hook victims should just get over it. the hell no caucus as you put it is getting bigger. some don't think you're conservative enough. how do you deal with them differently than you did in the
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last congress? >> i think the premise of your question i would take exception to. yes, we have some new members who have made some statements. i'll give you that. but when you look at the vast majority of the new members that are coming in here, they're really solid members. whether it's the youngest woman to ever serve in a congress to another african-american republican from texas, we've done a very good job of recruiting good candidates and we're going to have a very good crop of members. >> on immigration you tried to act in the last congress and your conservative members yanked you back. >> no, no no. >> how would you work with the president on an issue like this? >> no. again, i would argue with the premise of the question. what held us back last year was a flood of kids coming to the border because of the actions that the president had already taken. and let me tell you what, the american people from the right to the left, started to look at
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this issue in a very different way. that's why i'm -- i made it clear, the president, if he continues to go downs this path of taking action on his own, is inviting big trouble. >> what about the 18 months before that? >> i goo regale you with all of my challenges of trying to get members on both sides of the aisle to deal with this. they were numerous. >> what's different now? >> hope springs eternal. >> thank you, mr. speaker, harry reid, the republican party has done what it set out to accomplish by firing harry reid. is he no longer an obstacle to getting the agenda of the republicans through this congress? >> i don't know, you might want to ask mitch mcconnell about that question. >> do you see him as still being someone who has power to thwart --
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>> of course. you all know how the senate works. requires 60 votes to do almost anything in the senate. clearly he's going to have some power. if you look at -- let's take the 46 jobs bills sitting in the united states senate that have been held up by the democrat majority in the senate. almost all of those passed the house on a bipartisan basis. and i believe that almost all of them enjoy bipartisan support in the united states senate. if you're doing -- you've heard me say this before, i tell my colleagues all the time if you're doing the right things for the right reasons, you don't have to worry about anything. the right things will happen. >> mr. speaker, would you be able to compromise on the 30, 40 hour week? >> strong words from the speaker of the house of representatives john boehner saying if the president takes unilateral action acts on his own to try to change the immigration procedures here in the united states, the speaker of the house says the president will find himself in big trouble.
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he is very upset the president in his words might double down and take this what he calls this go it alone approach. gloria, i guess they're going to have a meeting tomorrow. the president made it very clear if the congress doesn't pass comprehensive immigration reform, he's going to sign an executive order changing the opportunity for illegal immigrants in this country to have a pathway to legality at a minimum. you heard the speaker say that will be a disaster if he takes that unilateral action. >> the incoming senate leader say it would be like waving a red flag, john boehner just say about this, when you play with matches you take the risk of burning yourself. and so it's very clear he's saying, if you do that, it's going to poison the well on absolutely everything else we need to get done. what was interesting, though, on obama care, is clear he's going to have another vote talking about repealing of the president's health care reform bill, but he also said, we can
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try to do things piecemeal which is exactly what i think he's going to do. have a show vote on repealing obama care but there are other parts of it that republicans would like to attack and may actually put on the president's desk. one or two of those the president might sign, wolf. >> he said very specifically, dana, you were sitting in the front row over there at the news conference, you play with matches, you will burn yourself he did not mince words at all and he directly warned the president, don't do what you have promised your liberal base and many latinos out there you will do, take this unilateral action to change the regulations as far as illegal immigrants in this country are concerned. >> that's right. and let me give you the context here. john boehner is somebody who wants to do immigration reform. he said it here. he's said it in private. he says it to us, he says it to his caucus. but he is also somebody who has been struggling for years, since
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he has been the speaker, for four years, with convincing his own members that this is what he should do. i mean, remember the republican party here has an entire industry, literally, an industry of conservatives who raise money and spend money to attack the republican leadership on issues where they think they're not doing the right thing and immigration is at the top of the list. so what the point he was trying to make and the context is, that it is going to be so much harder for him to do what everybody says they want to do if he has the president sign this executive order and anger the rank and file and more importantly get these outside groups to anger the rank and file for him. the other thing i want to point out, the flip side of this equation of trust and needing to work together, i don't know if you heard my question about the fact that out of the gate they're talking about repealing obama care which is never going to become law ever, while the president is in office, because they don't have anywhere close to the veto proof margin in
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their new republican majority and he shrugged his shoulders and said we got to do what we got to do. that's the flip side to the trust deficit which is real which they will have to talk about at this lunch tomorrow, how do you expect the president to trust the speaker is going to do big things like immigration if he's continuing to take show votes as gloria put it on repealing his signature law. >> let's get reaction from democratic congressman adam schiff of california joining us right now. first of all, on this warning that the speaker of the house gave to the president of the united states, don't take any executive action, you'll burn yourself, this will be a disaster, what do you make of that very strong word, strong words from the speaker of the house, congressman? >> well, plainly the speaker doesn't want the president to go forward at the same time the speaker was unwilling to give any kind of commitment they would actually bring a comprehensive bill to the floor. so i don't think the speaker is leaving the president much choice. i think the president will be
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compelled to act. it was significant when he was asked, why haven't we had an immigration bill and he pointed to the unaccompanied minors. that took place almost a year after the immigration bill passed in the senate. so that was a pretty weak argument for the failure of the house to act on immigration reform. i think it's going to happen as the president committed to do very soon after we go back into session and i wish the speaker had spent more time today talking about the areas where he could work with the president, what issues he wanted to put on the president's desk tomorrow, or later on today i think that would have been a lot more productive. >> quickly on what he said about these negotiations with iran. and you've been -- you're a member the house intelligence committee, looking at this closely. he says these efforts, there's an end of november deadline as you know to try to work out a deal that would eliminate iran's capability of developing a nuclear bomb, the speaker said these negotiations in his mind he says he doesn't think they're serious. he has his doubts. he doesn't trust the iranians.
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this new republican majority in not only the house but in the senate, they have a lot of doubts about what the president and these international partners, these other members of the security council and germany are doing right now. where do you stand on these negotiations? >> well, i would love to see them succeed but i'm skeptical of the iranians as well and i'm not sure that they've made the decision that they're prepared for the sacrifices they'd have to undertake that they're prepared to give up the bulk of their enrichment program. i'm skeptical we'll get a deal. i'm skeptical that the iranian leadership, the atoll ya is prepared to deliver. i think rouhani is willing but i'm not sure he has the free hand to do it. we'll find out very soon. i think the president is committed to trying to get a deal, but not settle for a bad deal and we'll know soon enough whether that's going to be possible. >> let me bring in aaron david miller of the woodrow wilson international center here in washington, also the author of a brand new book entitled "the end
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of greatness." what's your take on what's going on right now? not only -- the whole middle east seems to be exploding right now, not only iran, iraq, syria, we're seeing what's happening in jerusalem right now, tensions escalating, fear that there could be a third intifada right now. you spent a whole career studying all of this. what's your take? >> i think it's melting down and we're stuck in the region. we can't leave. we have interest, allies and enemies and we can't transform it. i think the president has to focus on what makes sense, what's vital as opposed to weight discretionary. avoiding another attack on the continental united states. it means continuing to ween our service off of arab hydrocarb s hydrocarbohydrocarbon hydrocarbons. before the so-called wave, there was almost no political space in this town for iran. iranians are executing almost as many people as china. supporting assad, backing hezbollah. their policies on iraq aren't nearly the ones we would like to see them pursue.
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now there's zero space. unless this deal on november 24th, given the fact there will be a comprehensive deal, not something that can be finessed or snuck by congress. it has to be a good deal, accountable and really transparent. i don't think in view of what happened yesterday there's any other alternative. most likely wolf, you will end up with an extension, maybe even some -- a breakthrough on a piece or two of the substance. a comprehensive deal by november 24 that satisfies congress and the israelis, and what we need in terms to put more time on the iranian clock, that's going to be a hard sell. >> thanks very much. gloria, of course, thanks to you. congressman schiff, we'll continue our conversations. dana bash on capitol hill, of course thanks to you. coming up, he was one of the few who survived the gop wave. colorado's newly re-elected governor, managed to narrow a victory in the midterm elections. we'll speak live with john hickenlooper about his win, the political landscape in the united states has changed.
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democratic incumbents lost, why do you believe democrats fared so poorly this time around? >> well, clearly it was a steep hill, there's a lot of dissatisfaction and a lot of reasons for that. i think there's a resistance against what the kind of stagnation and things not happening in washington, also the economy is recovering, consistently, but it's still a slow recovery that isn't affecting -- hasn't gotten down to a lot of working people yet. there's a frustration on that level as well. >> did the president -- how badly did the president hurt democrats, let's say in your state? >> well, there's probably some effect but it was more dissatisfaction with people's -- where they are in life and they haven't got an raise in a few years. we're working -- colorado has one of the fastest growing economies in the country. it shouldn't have marrimattered here naz other places. even republican incumbents like
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scott walker or rick schneider in michigan, they face serious challenges as well. it was a tough year for any incumbent. >> the republican governors, generally speaking, they did pretty well, the incumbents. democrats not so well. the democrats even losing in really democratic states like maryland, massachusetts, even the president's home state of illinois. i think some sort of message was sent, if you're a democrat out there, what was the message? >> well, the message was, to make sure that you, again, what we talked about in our campaign was, that we were going to be relentlessly pro-business, that this state was going to be the most pro-business state in america but with high standards. the cleanest air, cleanest water, going to hold ourselves accountable at the highest level. >> couple questions our followers on twitter wanted know ask you. how is that legalization of marijuana in your state of colorado working out? >> i'm amazed it took you this
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long to get to the question. it's actually we're getting there. we continue to focus on making sure that teenagers, you know, kids whose brains are still maturing, they don't get access to the high thc marijuana. scientists continue to warn us this could have permanently diminished long-term memory. the rest of the framework is coming along well, i think. >> it's going to stay will. a few other states voted to legalize marijuana as well. no effort serious effort to get rid of that legalization in colorado? >> no, i don't think so. i opposed it. most of the elected officials out here opposed it when it was on the ballot a couple years ago. the voters have spoken and we are working as hard as we can to create a regulatory framework that will work. you know as well as i all the conflicts between state law and federal law, we can't -- our banks can't bank the marijuana business. there are plenty of challenges. we're trying to work through them. >> so if a fellow governor from another state asks you for your
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opinion, what do you say to him? >> i'm the chair of the national governors association, so i do get asked fairly often. what i say is you should wait a couple years. don't go out. i don't think any state should do it just for tax revenues or, you know, that kind of revenue decision. let's see whether the unintended conflicts, whether it can really diminish them to a point where this new system makes sense for everyone. >> one final question. i know the president called you yesterday to congratulate you. did he have a specific message he wanted to deliver? >> i teased him i won because i played pool with him. he laughed but said no that wasn't the case. he was offering congratulations and just wanted to make sure i think he said the same thing to governors across the country, that they wanted to work in partnership and do anything they could to help our states, and certainly when we had the wildfires and the floods out
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here, we had that terrible shooting in aurora, the federal government, the white house, and congress, worked very effectively as partners with us to help us recover. >> you got a beautiful state, colorado, love colorado. and i want to just congratulate you once again on your re-election. governor hickenlooper, thanks very much for joining us. >> no, thank you very much. we love that colorado is everyone's second favorite state. those who live here, it's our favorite state. >> i suspect with that legalization of marijuana tourism in your state is going up, is that right? >> it's been going up steadily for about ten years, so i'm not sure we've seen a change because of marijuana but there's no indication that it's hurt it. >> all right. thanks very much, governor, for joining us. good luck to the folks in colorado. still ahead, we will get an independence take on the midterm and own political future. my special conversation with the vermont senator, bernie sanders. you see him right there. that's coming up next. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare?
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shoes and you adopted his view on these policies, he has screwed up even his own priorities on this issue by mishandling the politics on this from the very beginning so now to come back and say after the american people repudiated the policies of barack obama and everyone connected to him to now say what are you guys going to do to compromise with the person that the american people just repudiated, it's a little bizarre. >> it's the republican national committee chairman not mincing words on his part. not a positive assessment from the republican leadership. let's bring in bernie sanders. long standing independent member of the united states senate. he's joining us right now. you caucus with democrats. very quickly, what happened to the democrats? they suffered hugely this week. >> the republicans ran a very
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smart political campaign. the american people are extremely dissatisfied at the state of the economy. the middle class continues to collapse. that's been a 30-year collapse. the gap between the very rich and everybody else is growing wider. real unemployment is close to 12%. what the republicans successfully did is blame obama for all of these problems and then go after the senators who have supported obama. what they also managed to do, wolf, and a brilliant political strategy, is not tell us when their agenda is. all over the country in conse e conservative states, people said let's raise the minimum wage to a living wage. what's the republican position on that? they are against that. poll after poll tells us the american people want to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure and create millions of decent paying jobs. what's the republican position on that? they're against it.
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>> let me just ask you, i want to get your quick reaction to what we heard from speaker of the house, john boehner. he was very blunt. he said if the president goes ahead and through executive action, unilaterally without going through congress tries to change the status of illegal immigrants here in the united states, that will be very dangerous. he'll poison the well and it's as simple as that. he says the president better not even think about doing that. your reaction? >> well, my reaction is the people of this country overwhelmingly want to see the minimum wage raised. is the republican party going to do what the american people want? the american people do not want more tax breaks no the wealthy and large corporations. is the republican party going to poison the well by going forward at a time of massive wealth and income equality to people who don't need the tax breaks. boehner is talking about a
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political attack on the president. >> will you support the president if he goes around congress and takes that executive action to change the status of illegal immigrants? >> look, what i support is congress and the president doing everything they can to address the serious problems facing the american people. immigration is one of those issues. in the senate, we passed a bipartisan bill. the house did nothing. let's do something together. that's the preferable route. most importantly, let's not turn our backs on the middle class of this country and ignore the enormous economic problems they are facing. let's not simply work for the rich and big campaign contributors who control the united states congress. if we can do that and respond to needs and pain of the american people, you know what? i think you'll suddenly find that congress is regarded more favorably than is currently the case. >> i know you are seriously thinking about running for the democratic presidential
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nomination. now that midterm elections are over with, candidates will start create exploratory committees. will where you stand on that? >> i'm giving thought to running but for me and the nature of the campaign i would be running, i have to get input from people all over this country and we haven't made that final decision yet. when you take on the billionaire class and you take on wall street and the drug companies and all these guys, you don't do that haphazardly. you have to think it through. i want to know whether there is grassroots support in this country for an agenda that's going to speak to the needs of working families and the middle class prepared to take on big money interests and i have to determine that and we're not there yet with that determination. >> you already made a visit or two to iowa. i assume you've been to your neighboring state of new hampshire. how are you being received in those early primary and caucus
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states? >> well, you know, in fact, quite well. we've had very decent turnouts around the state of iowa and in new hampshire as well. and in other places around the country. but it's one thing, you know, when 300 or 400 people come out to a meeting and another thing to see and get a sense of where millions of people in this country are. look, the american people today are demoralized. one of the takeaways of this last campaign is that in my state and all over this country, vast majority of the people didn't even vote. young people don't vote. low income earning people don't vote. they are disgusted. is it possible to bring people back in to stand up and fight for their rights and take on the big money interests? i don't know the answer to that yet. that's just something we're exploring. >> we'll see when that decision comes forward. always a pleasure having you on the program, senator. thanks very much. good luck to you. >> thank you. >> bernie sanders, independent
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senator from the state of vermont. he caucuses with the democrats. he's always got important views. that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. i'll be back 5:00 p.m. eastern in the "the situation roositu "" for our viewers in the united states, north america, "newsroom" with brooke baldwin starts right now. all right, wolf. thank you so much. great to be with you on this thursday. i'm brookebaldwin. with this. the worst possible scenario for this philadelphia family ends in the best way. this woman was just ripped from the streets. the mother of this victim speaking for her life spoke out tuesday. >> give me my baby. give me my child. please.