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>> okay. >> that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. you can always tweet me @wolf blitzer. join us tomorrow or dvr the show. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. next, breaking news. the prime minister have israel warning the united states against a nuclear deal with iran as the ayatollah tweets about eliminating israel. plus, bringing back american prisoners from north korea. mechanical problems at the last hour changed the whole plan. and the problem with race in america is pathetic defeating self-underclass. that story tonight. let go "outfront." >> good evening. "outfront," the breaking news.
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israel's prime minister sending a dire warning to the united states after iran's supreme leader called for israel to be annihilated. the q and aon why israel should be eliminated. benjamin netanyahu fired back saying, iran's quote terrorist regime must not be allowed to get a nuclear bomb. >> i call on the p-5 plus one countries. don't rush into a deal that would let iran rush to the bomb. >> this as secretary of state john kerry heads home after two days of talks about iran's nack program with the country's foreign minister. the clock is ticking. the deadline is just days away. the global affairs correspondent begins our coverage. when you hear what you came out from iran today from the supreme leader, you their prime minister of israel. the question is will the u.s. do this deal? >> reporter: well, it's true. secretary of state kerry wrapped up ten hours of talks with the
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foreign minister. they say there's time for progress but the signs from iran on whether a nuclear deal could lead to better ties between the u.s. and iran are not encouraging. with the deadline two weeks away, secretary of state john kerry headed to amman to kick nuclear negotiations into overdrive with iran's foreign minister. back home, vice president joe biden speaking to jewish leaders, laid out the u.s. red line. >> we will not iran acquire a nuclear weapon. period! period! period! and i would not put fly-year reputation on the line were i not certain when i say it. we mean it. >> in between tweets on iran's nuclear diplomacy, the country's supreme leader took aim at israel tweeting, quote, this barbaric wolf-like and infant
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criedal regime of israel which spares no crime has no cure but to be annihilated. vitriolic comments about israel are nothing new but coming on the heels of news president obama sent a letter to the supreme leader, his fourth since taking off, it dashes the administration's hopes a nuclear deal could pave the way for greater cooperation against isis and ending syria's civil war. >> the supreme leader has been in power since 1989. he has expressed his hostility and vitriol toward the united states and israel. he's made it known he is not interested. if you're president obama you're not interested in could not fwhikt iran. >> since speaking by phone last year, president obama has sought a nuclear bluejacket iran. world powers reached an interim agreement. in exchange for some temporary caps on the nuclear program.
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12 months of democratic brinksmanship has fail to bray comprehensive accord. president obama wasn't exactly optimistic. >> the question now is are we going to be able to close this final gap so they can reenter the international committee. there is still a gap. >> now as the november 24nd deadline approaches, the u.n. nuclear watch dog, the iaea, has not come clean, posing new questions about whether iran is trying to build a nuclear bomb. and the iaea very concerned about iran will not give access to nuclear sites. diplomats and u.s. officials stay goal is a final deal by november 24th. but if no deal is reached, they could agree on another interim deal, codifying the progress that has been made while continuing to negotiate the remaining and most substantial
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issues. how much enrichment capacity iran could maintain and the cost lifting those sanctions. >> thank you very much. the attorney general of the iaea said it was possible that iran had continued this. we'll have more in a moment. these nuclear talks as we're saying, they've been under a way for nearly a area. another round tonight. what's the sentiment where you are? >> reporter: it's clear that iranians want a deal to happen. the government wants a deal. if it is a fair one. the people want a deal as well. we've been coming here for the past year frequently during these negotiations. and i haven't come across a single iranian who has told me they don't want a deal to happen. they all want it. this is a very young, educated, sophisticated population that has been through a difficult time over the past several years. difficult, crippling economic sanctions, political and
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economic isolation, years of being demonized by the international media and they're tired of it. remember, if you're young iranians, 20 something, 30 something, with an iranian passport, it is very difficult to travel freely around the world. you can't use a credit card. you can't use the banking system. they want that to end and they want a key step to end these sanctions. but a couple of things. this is a population that wants its rights. they believe they have a rate to have a peaceful nuclear program and they're very skeptical population. they've seen a lot of broken promises. many here don't trust their own government and they don't trust washington either. many believe this nuclear program is an excuse by washington to keep the geopolitical balance of power that currently exists, that favors u.s. allies like israel and saudi arabia. show that complicated issues here. that's why it will be a fascinating two weeks leading up to the november 24th deadline.
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>> thank you very much. live in tehran. now joining me, the spokeswoman. >> good to be here. >> so let me ask you, secretary kerry left after two days of talks. was there progress? >> reporter: this is a pivotal time. we're two weeks away from the deadline. the secretary was there meeting. because we're at a pivotal time. these talks are particular at the political level, the technical experts level. that's where a lot of the hard work, the slogging away will be done. they'll be reconvening next week. so this was part of the process. we didn't expect it to be a major breakthrough. >> so let me ask you about this tweet. it is widely believed to be the full count of the supreme leaders. why should, and how can israel be eliminated? the answer tonight, the questions include, why should the zionist regime be eliminated
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and what's the proper way of eliminating israel? today prime minister of israel responded. i want to play that for you quickly. >> he is publicly calling for the annihilation of israel as he is negotiating a nuclear deal with the p-5 plus one countries. there is no moderation in iraq. it is unrepentant, unreformed and i call on the p-5 plus one countries, don't rush into a feel would let iran rush to the bomb. >> how does the united states support a deal with a country whose supreme leader talks about eliminating any country, never mind america's biggest ally? >> first there is no question those tweets link in the account with the associated supreme leader are reprehensible and disgusting. let's say what's at stake. a nuclear weapon. it is in the united states interests, in the global community's interests. what's the alternative? if we are not going to continue
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to pursue a diplomatic path and try to achieve comprehensive deal in the next 13 days. >> so let me ask you, it would seem to be unfettered access. any time when you want without announcing themselves would be weapons inspectors. in the past year, iran has denied access to some of the sites including as we all know, the most significant, the major mill site, their jewel. the united states has believed atomic weapons did happen at some time there. will the united states consider a feel does not allow unfettered access any time in iran? >> there is no question that you can't have teal that is workable without stringent and verifiable monitoring mechanisms. as you know, there are a couple different patted that's iran would have or has to a nuclear weapon. our goal is to cut all of those up. obviously monitoring those mechanisms is a key part of that.
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this is a very technical deal. so i'm not going to get ahead of that. >> so this was titled, iran's red lines. the red lines are shaped so everyone can see this, to create the shape of a nuclear atom. one says there will be no deal as long as americans continue their enmetty and their hostile way. their most common bill is also the nuclear atom. it does raise the question of how you do business with somebody like that. >> this is the way we see it. this is never been about trust. we still have some major issues with iran, even if there is a deal, when there is a deal. that's what we're hopeful of. we're concerned about their human rights record. they're holding american citizens. we're concerned about their state sponsored right of terrorism. this has never been about an
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opening in a relationship. this is about nuclear aspirations. that's what our focus is on. >> thank you very much. we appreciate it. the key words, she is explaining, it is not about trust. "outfront" next, the target of isis's top leader. why is his fate still unknown? plus, under thatit benstein has said it is self-defeating black underclass. and more states are loosening laws on pot. "america's next top model." i have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. so i talked to my doctor about my condition and my treatment options he told me about stelara® in a medical study, 7 out of 10 stelara® patients saw at least 75% clearer skin at 12 weeks. and 6 out of 10 patients had their plaque psoriasis rated as cleared or minimal at 12 weeks. [ male announcer ] stelara® may lower your ability to fight infections and increase your risk of infections some serious infections require hospitalization
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dead or alive, abu bakr al-baghdadi may be dead tonight. ten vehicles which were believed to carry isis leadership, they came and saw them as a target. iraqi intelligence had word that al baghdadi would be in that
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convoy. how is it possible the. days later, nobody knows if he is dead or alive? >> reporter: confusion about the fate of the elusive leader of isis. iraqi tv broadcast a statement that abu bakr al-baghdadi, head of isis, was wounded in an iraqi air strike on saturday. at the town on the board of with syria. a senior official tells cnn, the iraqis did have intelligence that he was in that border down. u.s. officials now believe it is less likely baghdadi was wounded or killed 250 miles away in mosul where coalition war planes hit a convoy of ten isis armed trucks. rumors surfaced soon after that that baghdadi was there. the u.s. said the strike was a meeting of leaders but the outcome was unclear.
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the retired army general stanley mcchrystal wondered what it would do. >> from isis right now, that is not going to stop isis. >> no. i think it is something that causes isis problems but it is not cutting the head off the snake and specking the snake to die. >> reporter: the u.s. is now scouring phone intercepts, record from locals on the ground. anything for intelligence confirming baghdadi may have been wounded or killed. even if they wounded or killed him, the war against isis is far from over. >> it will morph. and new leaders will emerge. in fact, bear in mind that isis leadership originated from saddam's military. these are very conventionally trained vex professional leaders. >> president obama said his decision to send 1,500 more troops to iraq to train iraqi forces is about getting them on the offense against isis. >> now what we need is ground
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troops, iraqi ground troops that can start pushing them back. >> even some of the president's own democrats, skeptical the iraqi government is up to the essential challenge of winning back sunnis who have turned to isis out of distrust with baghdad. >> these 1,500 troops are ultimately going to be a temporary band-aid if there isn't a fully inclusive government inside baghdad. >> 50 u.s. troops have handed in anbar province west baghdad. they will work to set up operations so more u.s. advisers can go in and begin to train iraqi forces to get back out into the field. back on to the offense against isis. defense second chuck hagel and general martin dempsey, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff are likely to be asked about all of this when they appear before congress on thursday. >> all right. thank you very much. if the president's war against isis illegal? you're talking about doubling
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the troops and what will happen then? the kentucky congressman, he said this war is now illegal. it must be declared and made valid or it must be ended. congress has a duty to act. "outfront," the former white house down in the clinton administration. great to have both of you here. since you advised senator pouille this. why do you believe the president is breaking the law? >> the legal rational that they're giving, he has 60 days to make a case to sxong then 30 days to cease operations if he hasn't made his place. he has not gone to congress or asked for congressional authority and it is time for that to happen. >> and your count is 90 days since the air strikes began in august. >> it would have been august 8 to be precise. >> so that's your logic. what do you say to this? >> well, remarkably, she ignores
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what the senator actually wrote. he wrote even if the 90 days hadn't expired, this is no constitutional authority for the froze act unless we are under attack at that time. meaning, that if we know ahead of time that beer to be attacked by a terrorist attack like 9/11, according to senator paul, the president may not act. and i don't think he is going to stand by those words that i just read to you. unless we're under attack at that time, the president cannot act preemptively to stop a terrorist attack. he can't mean that. >> what about this issue of action. >> it is not even imminent. he has not been able to say it is an imminent threat. why cannot everything to congress?
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president bush did. you've seen we're getting really poor policy. we're getting lack of a strategy completely as president obama himself admitted. we really need the public debate and i think would it strengthen our strategy for attack isis. >> what i'm curious about. some people look at this and say, okay, the law is the law. you can always say something is imminent. it is a slippery slope. you can say it is imminent and he will go after isis. you can say something else is imminent. does that present itself as a real risk to the american military? >> sure. notice how she inserted the word imminent into senator paul's sentence. he said unconstitutional under we're under attack. no imminent. under attack at that time. so no preemption. that's the words the senator, miss jordan is probably unable to walk that back until she talks to himmism do agree with her that the president should go
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to congress and get authorization. but it is interesting in the years that senator paul has been in congress since isis began its attack, he has never introduced a legislation of authorization himself, even though he says in the op ed that he agrees. so why hasn't he introduced the authorization resolution himself? >> he's trying to get president obama to agree to go before congress. >> why has not he introduced the resolution? >> by introducing the public debate. >> simple question. why hasn't he introduced that? >> i can't speak for him. >> you're exactly right. i don't blame you. >> here's the question. the president said, he went to congress and wanted to conduct air strike a year ago. he went and he said i'm going to ask for your vote. they never voted. they sat around and they never voted. when you look at his position, he said the nation's security is at risk and i don't want to risk it again. >> i think right now, he would
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have the significant amount of support stoex political congratulations would be in his favor. and i don't see frankly what he has to lose. i think overall, it would vote, they would vote yes. >> so we agree that. and i agree, miss jordanism completely agree but the president should do that. he said he will. but i just point out to you that senator paul has the ability to introduce that legislation. he says in his op ed piece. he has not done so and then he says something irresponsible that the president can only act after an attack. not before. >> how is that -- interesting. i don't think that we are seeing -- maybe you have access to some classified intel that i don't. which i don't think do you, quite frankly because i think you're really pushing the boundaries of the legality here. >> i'm reading the senator's own words. and you're not able to defend them and i don't blame you. but i do agree he ought to go to congress and get authorization
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for this current isis attack. >> we'll see when he does. i'm curious. we've had democrats and republicans on this show for very different reasons who say they don't want any war at all and i guess you're right. maybe they would have to vote yes but they clearly don't want to. to china where the president kicked off his trip to asia with silk pockets and dark pants them coordinated their outfits. they look like they were ready for a night on the town. china pulled out all the stops. world leaders came to beijing along the lit road which was lined with elaborately clothesed dancer. there were choreographed performances that rivaled the fourth of july. the president will be at the economic summit until wednesday. i do not yet have word on whether there will be any more coordinating attire. out next. the problem with race in america
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the city have ferguson waiting. the shooting setting off riots across the nation and people in ferguson are preparing for something much worse by arming. they. sarah is outfront in ferguson. sarah, they're buying guns? >> reporter: they are, according to a lot of people including the mayor and gun shop who are telling us that sale are up about 50%. when we asked why, they said it has to do with ferguson. that the residents here are very concerned, they're very concerned about what might happen when the grand jury come back with its decision on whether or not to indict officer wilson. let me let you listen to what a gun shop owner will us, about. the number of clients coming in
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as doubled. >> there's a lot of people who are scared. and not necessarily, i don't like to use the word scared. i would say very concerned. but there is an element that the, they're fearing what will transpire next. >> but the protesters say, to be fair, over these past 90 days, this is the 90th day of protests that of course on every single day since august 9th. for the most part they have been peaceful. the protesters have really begun policing. they and telling everyone who wants to be vile that they're not a part of this movement that has started here. however, of course, there is still concern and we're noticing that concern play out on the front of businesses who are boarding up across the city. worried that they might be targets. >> i know you have new details. the future of the ferguson police department is core here. whether the justice department will take it over.
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>> reporter: it is. there's been a lot of talk about that. the protester are demanding the chief step down still and they would like to see the department taken overrule there was talk that a lot of people heard about from the department of justice, saying perhaps the department of justice would force that to happen. weighed candid conversation with the mayor who talked to us about this issue and said that for the issues that are being brought up to him. he thinks that the police department can make the changes necessary and that it will not be taken over. here's what he said. >> i don't expect that. i've been doing research on consent decrees across the country. from my experience with may two interviews with the department of justice, the entrance and the exit interviews, are i don't see anything that they've mentioned that we couldn't fix. >> reporter: as for now, there is simply a waiting game. waiting to hear that announcele from the grand jury.
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until then, things will be really uneasy. >> i want to bring in our legal analyst. michael brown's family attorney, anthony, this case has sparked protests, has sparked a passionate discussion in this country. i want to play something that just happened moments ago. this is stunning. whatever you think, this is stunning. the commentator asked about this and i want to play his own words. >> the real problem with race in america is a very, very beaten down, pathetic, self-defeating black underclass that is just can't seem to get its way going in the way that blacks were able to before the scourge of drugs and the scourge of gangs. >> what's your response? >> i think that his remark is
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shallow. i think it is ill informed. he is missing some very critical pieces to the race issue in this country. it goes way deeper than what he just described. it completely ignores a longstanding history of racial challenges that this country has faced over the decades. you cannot boil it down and make it that sim miss particular. it it was an irresponsible statement. >> irresponsible and yet no doubt there will be many who will agree with it. when you look at what you're looking at. a grand jury giving to come down, does that concern you? >> it does. it deepens the divide in the relationships that are already strained and receiving heavy tension. it doesn't help to bring about any healing. that is what this region, that is what our country, this community needs right now.
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and not statement that's are divisive and have a way of inflaming the racial tensions that already exist. >> it is divisive. there will be hoom will agree. there will be people who say that. what he said, you just heard him say that. shallow, ill informed. >> he said it to, but to say it a pathetic black underclass is way over the top. i wonderful paint conservatives all with the brush of that statement. i think that responsible people look at crime statistics and will say, we have situation like ferguson and more encounters between police and african-americans because claim statistics are higher in african-american neighborhoods so there are more police encounters. there may be a factor of racism. >> why are the police going
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after black communities as opposed to other communities. >> i don't know that's the case. it they're going where the crime is. if it was happening in white neighborhoods, they to go with white neighborhoods. because they're there, they will have encounters with middle class. >> and the problem is there are those in the african-american community who willer what ben stein said that's what people think of us and it krae it is a even more of a divide. >> it is not a feel good statement. it is an insulting remark. when people are insulted and they feel insulted by statements, it creates more combativene combativeness. like i said before, it deepens the divide. it doesn't hope the heal and i think we can universally agree on that. >> this is a tweet, a teacher was suspended after this tweet
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regarding ferguson. heights the blank made you blank crackers think i give a squat blank about your opinions, about may opinion about ferguson. kill yourselves. >> the question when i see this, how is violence going to be avoided when this grand jury came out with a decision if it is not the decision of go ahead and charge? >> well, i don't know. one of the things that i think is the most disturbing, you've had 98 days of demonstrations in ferguson and essentially, we don't know what the decision is. we're using a procedure that has been in place since really, the founding fathers put grand juries in the u.s. kons stgs. so there's nothing to protest until a zigs made, whether it is a correct decision. there is nothing to protest at this point. >> thank you very much to both of you as we await that grand jury decision coming. it could be coming by the end of
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comcast business. built for business. the price of pot. does the punishment fit the crime? new york city is the latest to loosen its rules. it is just a ticket now. across the country, states and cities are also doing the same. the federal government, the opposite. tonight in washington state, recreational and medicinal pot are legal, five people are facing federal drug charming for growing medical marijuana. quietly tucked away in the northern rockies, the drug war takes an unexpected term. this is exactly the same route federal agents took. >> reporter: up this hillside,
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hidden from view, agents found an operation with guns, money and more. it happened at the end of this dirt road at this simple looking house with this very surprised couple. when bit drug traffickers, you're not what come to mind. >> you had of drug cart they will in mexico. that's what i think of. that's how bad it sounds. it is terrifying. >> along with their son, daughter in hau and a family friend, are known as the kettle fall five. arrested for growing their own medical marijuana in a state where it's legal. >> this is where you were growing everything, right? >> yeah. >> the field where they gru their pot is smaller than a tennis court. the harveys say they had it clearly marked with a green cross for medical marijuana. but federal prosecutors say they were trying to grow too much. >> we did everything we thought
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by the book. and i did not, i would have never done it if i thought we were doing something illegal. >> they say they were using marijuana with medical approval. in harvey's case it was to relieve pain from gout. federal prosecutors indicted the five any way on possession, distribution, manufacturing. even firearm charge when they found guns the harveys say were for hunting and protection. >> looking back on this, did you do something wrong? >> no. >> no. >> reporter: nothing. >> we did not do nothing wrong. >> reporter: was it possible any one of the five was selling this marijuana to someone else? >> no. we never had enough to sell. >> reporter: the charges don't seem to add up when you consider there are a dozen medical marijuana dispensaries less than two hours away in spokane. this one serves about 2,000 patients who can buy up to a pound and a half of pot. every three months.
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>> what prosecutors argue this case has nothing to do with medical marijuana. and a federal judge agrees. when the kettle fall five to go trial, they won't be able to use that as a defense. they won't be able to tell a jury why they were growing marijuana or that it is legal under state law. >> while they wonder how they will defend. they, prosecution of the kettle fall five could have a chilling effect on states legal igs medical and recreational marijuana. >> what is this case about? >> i think it is to send a message to the state of washington. i think the message is that it is federally illegal. they don't care if it is one plant or 68 plants, they'll prosecute. >> reporter: u.s. prosecutors wouldn't comment. snang their overgrown feel, they wonder how their lives became so legally entangled.
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>> if i didn't laugh, i would cry. it's no joke. >> reporter: it's funny that they can't defend themselves, they can't tell the jury this is legal in their state. what could happen to them if they are convicted? federal drug charge are not insignificant things. >> right. there are minimums here. they're looking at a minimum of ten years for what they were doing. and beyond that, this couple isn't very well off them could lose everything they have. and larry harvey, you saw him. there he is 70 years old, in very poor health. he recently got out of the hospital. he has a heart condition. people close to him are very concerned that he might have some very bad health problems because of this trial. >> you're talking about a minimum of ten years. and it could go up to life in prison. >> you're right. >> so federal law, i don't understand how this happens. states are clearly setting a direct in this country. the federal law is completely at odds. why would the feds have gone ahead? >> they did put out some
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guideline. everything seem to be okay here. we haven't heard what exactly the federal authorities have on this couple and the other three involved. the guidelines are supposed to keep these legal operation from faegting criminal enterprises, gangs, violent drug traffickers. they're wondering why are we being prosecuted. >> and you're wondering, is anyone else of the son or daughter -- >> right. that was the one thing to me that seems like it would be, somebody in the group was breaking the trust of the others and selling this marijuana. they say absolutely not. >> all right. thank you very much. we'll continue to follow that story. very strange to see what the outcome is. for more on the case and whether the punish many fits the krimt.
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. >> tonight it's about the top secret mission to secure the release of americans kenneth bae and matthew todd miller. the two men arrived back in the united states about 48 hours ago. we are now learning the mission by america's top spy into north korea was far from smooth. in fact, it was plagued with technical delays. our chief national correspondent jim scuitto is out front. >> reporter: the lofty mission to bring home americans kenneth bae and matthew miller suffered a down-to-earth 11th-hour hitch. two delays due to the technical problem from national intelligence james clapper. it was an exasperating setback after weeks of planning and communication. north korea approached the u.s.
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two weeks ago asking for a high level u.s. envoy. >> we have the indication there was a possibility of a release of these two hostages and we bur sued it. >> reporter: the nation responded with not a diplomat, which might signal a broader diplomatic address. he stated that he was traveling as the president's envoy solely to bring the two americans home. clapper, who did not meet with kim, himself, did not know he would succeed until he, bae and miller were on their way back. >> it's been an amazing two years. i learned a lot. i grew a lot. i lost a lot of weight, in a good way, but i stand against strong because of you. >> reporter: so why now? for one, north korea is under
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enormous pressure, an effort is under way under the u.s. criminal charge to charge senior korean officials, including kim, himself, with crimes. more importantly the leaders, including president obama, are now gathered in china, north korea's neighbor and sole allie. the growing consensus that north korea and its nuclear program must be dealt with firmly. >> it will take a broader understanding on the parts of north koreans that all the countries in the region consider this to be our no 1 security priority, making sure we do not have a nuclear rise according to peninsula. >> reporter: the north korean leader's face in a domestic audience, but for the u.s., dispatching the man who oversees the 16 u.s. intelligence agencies, they will keep a close watch on north korea sends a message. if north korea wasn't receiving
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a reward for the apec summit that, is unlikely this one u.s. diplomat told me, it will be a bad week for pyongyong. north korea needs to be dealt with, then china. >> i'm imagining how many decoys cell phones they equipped clapper with, with how many messages on them to try to you know muddy the waters. >> that would have been fun to watch. >> it would have been fun to watch, those preparations. one thing he didn't bring his own. next, half dog, half teddy bear, jeanie most s. that jeanie? well, she's next. .
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here's jeanie most. >> is eight teddy bear, is eight dog in is it a teddy dog? the real name is munchkin, you may have to watch the video a couple times to physical out what's going on. here's what she normally looked like. fans are howling over her transformation into a teddy bear. >> okay. that's where we draw the line. >> munchkin is an 8-pound shitzu, it was the costume that catapulted munchcondition to international fame. ooed and aahed over in various languages, now the star of her
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own facebook page, one admirier called her a little creepy, mostly cute. we must ask ourselves a question, was a teddy bear sacrificed in the making of this outfit? you betcha. cindy posted instructions on how to make the costume, buy teddy bear similar to your dog's face, there is not nice. cut off the bottom of the back feet and the back. >> sorry, guy. >> remove most of the stuffing. >> leave the stuffing in the arms. >> the dog's head goes here, her feet go through teddy's back legs, cindy says it took only 15 minutes the costume that gave munchkin more than her 15 minutes of fame. yes, those are her real eyelashes. here's the before and after. something she looks like from ewar from "star wars" when bob call this california swinger a
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cross dresser. with millions of views already, munchkin is on the way to fame achieved by ted the talking teddy bear. >> for some reason i thought you were going to be taller. >> i thought you were going to be funnier. >> there is nothing funny about being a stuffed toy in munchken's household. run before they yank your stuffing out and you become munchkin road kill. jeanie moos, cnn, new york. >> let us know your thoughts. >> take it aids, thanks for joining us. did the u.s. let airstrikes hit their biggest target. isis leader abu bakr al-baghdadi. we will look at that tonight, plus a cnnic exclusive. a father that lost his son, daughter in law and two grandsons, speaks out about the family friends charged with their murder the family and friends who spoke to