good morning, i'm carol costello. thank you for joining me. we begin with the race to find the wreckage of flight 8501 and all the souls who perished on board. more debris found floating including an apparent window panel. experts say it almost certainly is from an aircraft. it will take more scrutiny to confirm it is from the doomed airliner though. crews are battling fowl weather but managed to pull 30 bodies from the java sea. tech anythings on land identified four of the victims and the search for the main wreckage narrows to just over 2,000 square miles. that's roughly the size of delaware. let's get the latest from surabaya indonesia, now, where the flight originated and many of the families are gathered. gary tuchman is there. hi gary. >> reporter: hello, carol, the surabaya police headquarters where we're standing this tent has been specifically set up for families still waiting for any word whatsoever. 30 bodies have been recovered

but that means there are 132 people who are still missing. breaking overnight, malaysian officials aiding in the search tell cnn this is the most probable location of airasia flight 8501, an area just over 2,000 square miles, keeping a close eye on the weather that hamper the efforts for days, crews have yet to discover the crucial black boxes needed to solve the mystery of the crash and the clock is ticking in the race to find them. the battery used to power the pingers have about 24 days until they expire. at least three ships using underwater pinger locator devices are set to comb the area and new this morning, indonesian authorities identified the bodies of three more victims, bringing the total number of people identified to four. the journey back home for the first identified victim of the crash came thursday. the body of a woman, a teacher, was laid to rest in a tearful ceremony. her grieving family struggling to cope as her body was lowered

into the ground. in the early morning hours off the coast of indonesia, search teams making another painful trip back to shore, carrying the remains of more victims from the airasia flight and pieces of debris from the wreckage. also aiding in the search, the american "uss sampson" recovering two bodies from the java sea yesterday. at the hospital in surabaya, the race to identify other victims is of most importance for relatives. it is here where they will undergo autopsies before heading back to their families. this crash happened nearly six days ago. the weather has been crummy every day since, but it's supposed to it's forecast to improve this weekend particularly on sunday. carol? >> all right, gary tuchman reporting live from indonesia this morning. let's talk more about the latest developments this morning with sea operations specialist tim taylor also the president of tiburon subsea research, a company that specializes in rovs

and auvs and underwater imagery and cnn safety analyst david soucie author of "malaysia airlines flight 370: why it disappeared." welcome to both of you. thanks so much for being here. we still don't have much to go on this morning but there is the picture of this panel from the plane at least we suppose it is from the plane, david. just by looking at the that can you really tell anything? ? not a lot really. there's two parts to evidence and that is what it is and where it is and we don't know where it is or where it was after the accident. this will just be something that they use, the investigators will use to put another piece into the puzzle. >> yes, i was just reading things into it and certainly not an expert in any way, but didn't look like any kind of explosion or anything. >> there's not really a lot of physical damage to it. it's broken around the top but that's where it was attached. just broken loose. not much we can tell with this

as it sits. >> got you. supposedly according to local reports parts of the tale have been identified and found and an oil slick by where parts of the tail were found. >> if it's an oil slick and continuing to just appear and maintain itself then they could be close to the area where the main part of the plane hits. there are wrecks we dive from world war ii that are oil is still seeping out of and leaving a slick. i was on one this summer off of north carolina. >> in the tail is where you expect to find them in the tail section. >> yesterday you were talking about the black suitcase that was found.

why is that important? >> it indicates to me and it was undamaged by the way so it's stored in the at cargo department. if it's undamaged that makes me encouraged that the structure at that point wasn't severely damaged so i would suspect that the black boxes are going to be intact and fairly easy to find. >> i hope so. so they'll be sending out these pingz, pings, right? why can't they drop something in the water near where the pieces of tail were found and be done with it? >> i'm sure they'll be doing that. it's shallow water. it tends to be noisier so what we hear on the pings, it can have a lot of background noise in shallow water, rain on the water, boats, propellers noise waves crashing biological things crabs and fish make noise and it makes a big background static but the pings should be steady and regular and i imagine they are doing that. >> once they detect regular

pings, how long does it take to pinpoint where the black boxes are? >> a few days good weather, good weather if not sooner. the weather is a big factor. >> sunday is supposed to get fairly nice. >> we'll also get satellite images. remember 370 we got the great or excuse me on 17 we got the great satellite images that aided the researchers and the investigators as to where the bodies were located. we haven't been able to get that because it's been too cloudy. if it clears up sunday we'll get good pictures of that. >> last question two passengers according to local reports were found together in seats and they had their seat belts on. 30 bodies in all have been recovered. those bodies are coming from somewhere, that these people in their seats were found what does that say, anything?

>> well there's a couple of things it could say, but what it doesn't say is the answer that we're kind of looking for now, did it break up in flight or did it break up when it hit the water. so either one of those investigators will see that they'll find bodies in that condition, in either of those scenarios. so it really doesn't tell us a lot about what happened to the aircraft other than it does tell us that they weren't exiting the aircraft like there wasn't an egress attempt like we the suspected earlier. >> could it also tell us because of the weather that the plane under the water is coming apart and the bodies are getting out? >> i would not say that. dave can back me up here on this but it's probably this happened on the initial wreckage of athe plane, breaking apart and floating up is very difficult and very heavy down there, very hard to do that. now the oil for another, that could be fuel come outing out of the

plane since it was only an hour into its flight. >> the coming up people think of the debris as being on top of the ocean or the bottom and that's not the case. lot of it is in between because they're connected together there's pieces that connect together especially in this aircraft that has a lot of honeycomb structure which is buoyant, very buoyant and if it's attached to some metal you could find a lot of debris between the two, making the search incredibly difficult. it does give you more clues because that is not affected by wind. you can do a beter analysis to say where did it come from from that information than you can from what's on top. hopefully we're peeling off the layers of the onion and getting more information and i'm confident we're going to find this aircraft. >> by sunday when the weather clears up hopefully they'll be able to accomplish a lot more. timothy taylor david soucie, thank you so much. search crews believe that a shadowy image resting on the

floor of the java sea is likely the bulge of the asia airliner but to be sure divers have to reach the presumed wreckage. monsoon season has whipped up the season made it too dangerous for them to spend any significant amount of time in the water. paula hancocks has more from you. >> as you can see preparations are under way for one of the search vessels to head out to the search location and try and locate some of those bodies and also some of the debris. this is a police boat also going to have search and rescue on board. some of the divers are going to be on board as well they've already been out a couple of times, but many of them say they couldn't get into the water, it was simply too dangerous. today, they know they have waves of four meters or 13 feet high and it's simply too dangerous for them to get in. one diver said he would basically be giving up his life if he tried to do that. they're very frustrated. sometimes they just have to sit and wait and hope for a break in the weather, so that they can

try and bring back more bodies and bring some closure to those distraught families. paula hancocks cnn, indonesia. >> still to come in "the newsroom," the certain for flight 8501's black boxes turns critical as the batteries start losing power. look at why the black boxes, well we know why they're so important, we'll talk about how soon they can bring them up next.

the mystery of what happened to flight 8501 may be found in the plane's black boxes if they are recovered. the black boxes are in the tail of the airbus 32200. batteries pouring the recorder's pingers have about 24 days of power left. rachel crane has more for you. >> reporter: following a plane crash, the search for survivors always comes first, but just as important is the search for answers. the why and the how. often those answers are found in the black box. since the of 0s all commercial

airplanes have been required to have one on board. now, the name is a little misleading because they're actually orange and when we're talking about a black box, we're talking about two different boxes, one being the cockpit voice recorder the other being the flight data recorder. together they weigh anywhere between 20 and 30 pounds and have to be crash proof. black boxes can survive temperatures up to 2,000 degrees fahrenheit for an hour forces that are 3400 gs. that's 3400 times the force of gravity gravity. they're waterproof and can save recorded data for two years, and it's a lot of data. the cockpit voice recorder records the crew's conversation and background noise. by listening to the ambient sounds in the cockpit before a crash experts can determine if a stall took place, the rpms of the gen inand the speed at which the plane was travel. when these sounds are cross-referenced with ground

control conversations they can even help searchers locate a crash site. then there's the flight data recorder t gathers 25 hours of technical data from airplane sensors, recording several thousand discreet pieces of information, data about the air speed, altitude, pitch, acceleration roll fuel, and the list goes on and on about you to make sense of the day tax first you have to find it. not abeasen easy thing to could when a plane crashes into the ocean. both boxes are fitted with underwater beacons which self-activate the moment they come into contact with water. they send pings once per second to signal their location and can transmit data as deep as 20,000 feet up to 30 days when their batteries run out but on land there's no such pinging to help guide the search. investigators have to sift through the wreckage until they find it. >> rachel crane. still to come in "the newsroom," will rough wind and rocky waves finally let up so

divers can comb through those waters? we'll check in with chad next

. as the search intensifies for flight 8501 so does frustration with the uncontrollable -- the weather. for days the search is hampered by rough winds and rocky waters. earlier today divers faced waves

up to 13 feet high making it extremely difficult to conduct the underwater search. what can crews expect over the next several days? let's bring in meteorologist chad myers to find out. hi chad. >> hi carol. it does get a lot better on sunday that's still probably 36 to 48 hours before we can say the storms will be gone the skies will be clearing and the wind will be dropping off. right now the winds are still 30 to 40 miles per hour over that site. blowing some of the top debris down of course but also like they were saying anything under the ground under the water, not blowing around there's no turbulence down there. so there's the storms from overnight, they pop up and go away and if you're in the wrong place at the wrong time it's even dangerous for some of the ships to be out here because waves and winds 13 15 feet winds 50 miles per hour that finally all does go away though by sunday morning. they will see decent weather. scattered showers on and off. it's not going to be a perfect scenario. this isn't going to be finding something in a bathtub.

there will still be storms, an inch or two of rain in the next 48 hours but the big story is the wind. we're about 20 miles per hour. for tonight and tomorrow we could get 20 to 30 miles per hour at times but notice how the yellow begins to go away. here we go to sunday afternoon, we start to see the wind completely gone. so 5 to 10 miles per hour that would really be nice. something like a general breeze you get waves about two to three feet. they can deal with that. fresh breeze maybe almost 25 miles per hour a 9 foot sea. i've been diving in the water with the boats up and down at 13 feet out in the florida keys right on the reef and it is a mess. as soon as you get underwater you don't feel the up and down but the people up on top of the surface there in those boats, in those support cruise theyews they feel it. the intertropical convergence zone in a few months it will drift one way or the other and all of a sudden it will be perfect but for nower' is itily

in it. we get a big window of opportunity sunday into monday. >> we'll look forward to that. chad myers, thanks so much. >> the search area for the wreckage from flight 8501 narrowed to roughly 2,000 square miles, taking part in the search five planes eight helicopters and 30 ships, including the "uss sampson." 30 bodies have now been recovered, four of them positively identified and as search crews struggle with the brutal weather the question of how the plane went down remains as much a mystery as where. joined by boeing 777 captain and cnn aviation analyst les abend. thanks for coming back i appreciate it. if the plane went into the steep ascent and stalls is it possible the pilot could have regained some control of the plane after that? >> our reaction would have been the airplane has automatic controls where it's supposed to stop that from ever happening in what we call a normal mode on an a-320 but if he disconnected the autopilot he would control the

plane on his own. we're not certain this is a staugs situation. we have a lot of conflicting data. it's possible we had a dual engine flame out, where the captain was trying to control the airplane in a situation that involves severe turbulence. >> could he guide the plane down? >> absolutely. any airplane is designed whether it has a motor or not flies and this airplane is designed to fly on no engines. he indeed could do that. however, i'm troubled by the fact a mayday call never came out. he would have at least had an opportunity from that altitude to say something, so it seems to me that something more troubling occurred. >> there's some sort of emergency transmitter on the plane, isn't there, so if it hit the water it would automatically go off? >> there's at least two emergency locator transmitters, often located in the life vests themselves if they became immersed in water they'll not

transmit. the impact of land would have set them off. >> ever since the miracle on the hudson happened everybody has this idea pilots can land on the water and it's a cinch. it's not. >> no, it's a difficult challenge's special which with the sea state chad myers was talking, nine foot seas at its best is a tough situation. there's a technique to do it. we don't necessarily practice doing that because it's a circumstance that is very unusual, but we have read on the appropriate way to do it and it's indeed possible. >> what is your best hope as a pilot if you're trying to do this? >> your best hope is to land parallel to the waves and try to mitigate the damage that could occur. the airplane is going to break up that's the bottom line. we've talked about this before you can't have the hudson river scenario especially out in the middle of the ocean. it's kind of implausible. >> people keep talking about it

i wanted to you shoot that theory down because -- >> yes. listen anything is possible if it's done correctly and you've got the timing down absolutely but it does not seem like this was the circumstance that occurred. it seems that airplane broke up into fragments at some point, maybe on impact possibly prior to that it's hard to say. >> les, thanks for being here. i appreciate it. >> before malaysia airlines flight 370 went misses ocean garbage was not a global headliner. during the search crews found a startling amount of trash in the sea, an issue being highlighted by this most recent tragedy, cnn's stephanie elam mass more for you. >> our oceans are littered in trash and it's unfortunate it's taken this human tragedy to highlight it. >> reporter: for aviation 2014 was scarred by the disappearance of two planes over open water. the hunt for airasia flight 8501 in the java sea and malaysia air flight 370 in the indian ocean

has given the world a good look at the trash conditions of our oceans. objects floating in the water turned out to be junk, discarded nets and old buoys among a myriad of items. >> these are the examples of plastic pollution. >> reporter: anna cummins is the director of the institute. >> the biggest offender is plastic pollution, roughly 80% to 9 the 0% of the debris in our oceans is plastic and the worst of it is that people don't realize this is not just unsightly. this plastic pollution is getting into the food chain and may ultimately be affecting our health. >> reporter: it's affecting the animal animals. >> roughly 660 species today and that is a conservative estimate are affected by plastic, they either get tangled in it or ingest it. lot of single use disposables and packageingpackaging. what is insidious, plastic in the oceans doesn't disappear. it acts like a sponge for contaminants. >> reporter: noaa says massive passes of garbage swirl about

between california and hawaii. there are international laws that prohibit dumping plastics in the ocean. the problem is enforcement. countries need to do i aa better job of cracking down on pollution and the vast ocean water, difficult to police. >> all over the world people are realizing we can't afford the use of single use plastics and companies need to take responsibility for what happens to their products. >> reporter: what impact will the jets have on the bodies of water? coupleiness says as ocean pollution goes the debris from the planes are just drops in the bucket. >> the bigger problem is what starts here on land. roughly 80% of the plastic pollution we find out in our oigss starts on land. it's as simple as the debris we see here in the sand the cigarette butts, the straws shall the forks, the bottles, the bags. >> reporter: some common items that may help daily life but pose a threat to our oceans. stephanie elam, cnn.

still to come in "the newsroom," from a boy in queens to the forefront of the democratic party, mario cuomo left his mark on the nation. >> we proclaim as loudly as we can, the utter insanity of nuclear proliferation and the need for a nuclear freeze if only to affirm the simple truth that peace is better than war, because life is better than death. >> we'll take a look back at the life and legacy of the former new york governor, mario cuomo, next. push your enterprise and you can move the world. ♪ ♪ but to get from the old way to the new

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good morning, i'm carol costello. thank you for joining me. flags in new york city will remain at half staff for the next month to mark the passing of former new york governor

mario cuomo. as many remember the leb ral three-term governor as a giant, he died from natural causes heart failure. the son of an italian immigrant quickly rose in the national political spotlight. john berman looks back at the life of mario cuomo. simply, it was the american dream, the son of italian immigrants, mario cuomo rose from the basement of this grocery store in south jamaica, queens, where he slept on the floor and spoke no english, to the highest office in new york state. ♪♪ along the way, creating a political legacy and dynasty that spanned generations. his life driven by a passion for learning, his catholic faith, and a determination to simply work harder than the other guy. >> one of the simple things i wanted to achieve, i want to be governor, i want to be the hardest working there ever was. >> reporter: after more than a

decade of the full contact politics of new york, cuomo catapulted to national prominence with the keynote address at the 1984 democratic national convention. >> we thank you for the great privilege of being able to address this convention. >> reporter: he challenged head-on ronald reagan's notion of a shining city on a hill, instead calling america a tale of two cities. >> we must get the american public to look past the glitter, beyond the showmanship, to the reality, the hard substance of things, and we'll do it not so much with speeches that sound good, as with speeches that are good and sound. >> reporter: it cemented him as one of his generation's greatest orators, a defender of the have-nots and the little guys. it also made him the choice of many democratic leaders to run for president. >> he said, will you think about it? i said i have been thinking about it. >> but are you going to think about it anymore?

[ laughter ] >> reporter: he was considered a favorite for the democratic nomination in 1988 and 1992, but in both cases he demured. his seeming inability to decide on higher office frustrated democratic party faithful and became something of a punchline in itself. >> and mario cuomo, no one knows what he's going to do. i don't know if you've seen his new public service commercial for new york city, a mind is a terrible thing to make up. yes. >> reporter: he said it wasn't indesaiiveness that kept him in new york instead of washington, it was his commitment to the state. >> it has nothing to do with my chances. it has everything to do with my job as governor and i don't see that i can do both, therefore, i will not pursue the presidency. >> reporter: he said it was that same commitment that led him to pass on a nomination to the supreme court, deciding instead to run for a fourth term as governor, but 12 years was enough for new york. he was defeated by george pataki in the republican revolution of 1994. cuomo returned to the private sector to restart his law practice, host a radio show and

become a prolific author and public speaker. and in 2010 came a brand new title, former or first governor cuomo, a word he would be forced to use because he was suddenly no longer the only one. ♪♪ >> reporter: in a bittersweet irony his eldest son, andrew, the current governor of new york, was sworn into a second term just hours before his father's death. >> he couldn't be here physically today, my father, but my father is in this room. he's in heart and mind of every person who is here. he's here and he's here, and his inspiration and his legacy and his experience is what has brought this state to this point. so let's give him a round of applause. >> reporter: governor mario cuomo, a true american giant, was 82. he is survived by his wife of more than 60 years, matilda

rafah cuomo, his five children including our cnn "new day" anchor chris, and 14 grandchildren. the constants of his life always faith and family. >> that was john berman reporting. condolences are now pouring in remembering governor mario cuomo. president obama calls mario cuomo "a determined champion of progressive values and unflinching voice for tolerance, inclusiveness, fairness dignity and opportunity." while new jersey governor chris christie said cuomo was a "strong, eloquent leader who loved new york and his people and he was a role model for future generations that anything is possible through hard work and education." former new york governor david paterson joins know now. >> good morning, carol, happy new year although it's not getting off to a very good start. >> no but i'm thankful you're here. can you share one of your

favorite memories about mario cuomo? >> i once used the word per spicacity in a speech. >> he said why would you use that? nobody understands that. i would never use the word. i use perspicuity. >> was it a lesson learned for you? >> well he was just a wonderful person. person that spoke with a lot of passion. when they talk about his public speaking that he was such an orator i think there are a lot of people who can actually pronounce the words and illiterate the sentences as well as mario cuomo did but very few could evidence the passion and sincerity in his remarks. he was a believer. >> he was. he seemed to have it all, a great back story, a fabulous speaker as you said beloved among democrats. why do you think he didn't run for president? >> i really don't know. the only instinct that i have is

that he really seemed to disdain politics in a lot of ways. he didn't like traveling a lot. he didn't like being in the middle of the crowds. he wasn't an attention seeker. he was just an attention getter. the idea of living in a bubble like a president and not being able to go home and stay with his wife matilda, every night probably didn't appeal to him. nobody knows why he didn't run for president. >> a lot of people say his heart just wasn't in it. it's a terrible job in many ways. you've experienced the rough waters in the political world. is it really worth it? >> well listen just being governor is a very difficult job, governor of a state. everything comes down to the decisions of one person particularly budgeting, and both governor cuomo and i experienced the same problem. we both governored during recessions. i was one who criticized him in 1991 for cutting programs and then 17 years later i'm sitting in the same seat doing the same thing he did, and apologizing to him for giving him such a hard

time two decades before. >> you not only have to deal with things like that though but the country is so vitriolic. anything you do is not right. you can't please anyone it seems as a politician. >> that's why i stepped down carol. i wake up in the morning, everything is not my fault and i've had a good day before i even get out of bed. >> okay. well that sets up my next question nicely. mario cuomo wrote in 1959 "the nation needs less anger and more thoughtful reflection less shouting and more listening." i don't think the nation listened do you? >> i think that the governor warned against politicians that talk and insert extremes and pedal the simplistic exaggerations that often parody the truth and everybody wants to be like a mario cuomo or on the republican side maybe a ronald

reagan and yet there are very simple ways to be that way, with unis to be honest two is to speak directly and three is to hold your positions even when the public may be on the other side because maybe you can persuade them rather than weaving back and forth like a weather vane like so many elected officials do. >> former new york stock exchange governor david participatepaterson thanks for your insight. i appreciate it. i'll be right back. narrator: this is the storm sea captain: there's a storm comin narrator: that whipped through the turbine which poured... surplus energy into the plant which generously lowered its price and tipped off the house

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she knew the risk but loved to fly. the parents of flight 8501 crew member are sharing memories of her, niza fawi had been working as a flight attendant for two years. she had a passion or travel adventure, loved her job and family. she was just 22 years old. as families of those on board flight 8501 mourn their loved ones a startling number of those killed were from the same small christian community. gary tuchman met with a pastor who was comforting the families. >> reporter: there are so many sad stories to tell here in surabaya indonesia, and this is just one of them. it involves a church. indonesia is the most populous muslim nation in the world, but there's a small christian denomination in this country that had nearly one-third of the

passengers aboard this flight. they are people who have long had something in common they belonged to the same protestant denomination but as they come into a church sarngtnctuary used by the police in surabaya end intoeria they arrive with something else in common, they are all people who lost loved ones aboard airisha flight 8501. ♪♪ the heartbroken people here are members of the charisma tick maw sharing church with about 45,000 members across indonesia. sadly many packed the flight to celebrate the new year in singapore. here is their church pastor. 46 people from the church are on the plane. >> yes. >> reporter: almost one-third of the total people on the plane. >> that's correct. we're putting trust in god's hand. >> reporter: the 46 members of the church were not all traveling together.

it was just a coincidence so many of them ended up on this flight. >> something that's happened in our lives, sometimes we just don't understand what cause, but in that way, we just put our trust everything completely in his will because he's going to bring everything is the best for our life. >> reporter: none of the bodies of the 46 members of the church have been recovered yet. the pastor tells me until they're accounted for, they're in a place between life and death. church members preferred not to talk on camera but sometimes you don't need to hear words because when you look at their faces, you understand how they feel. our hearts go out to those people and the family members of all 162 people aboard this airasia plane. this is gary tuchman, cnn, in surabaya, indonesia. still to come in "the

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>> checking some of the top stories at 47 minutes past the hour, an italian father says he has no doubt this is his kidnapped daughter in a new video released by an al qaeda

affiliate. the two women are dressed in islamic robes, they were kidnapped after traveling to syria in july. one of the women holds a sign suggesting it was shot on december 17th, the other says they're in big danger and could be killed. here in the united states the wife of a suburban atlanta, police chief remains in critical condition, one day after she was shot by her husband, the police chief. few details about the shooting have been released but the chief told 911 operators the shooting was accidental. she's been the chief has been placed on administrative relief. gm is recalls 92,000 suvs and trucks for the same issue that plagued its cars all year long faulty ignition switches. >> the current recall applies to silverado, suburbans and tahoes. the company, although it says the 93,000 recalled the problem

may only exist in 500 of these vehicles so this is more evidence that gm is being very very cautious here and we also should point out that there's been no accidents or deaths reported as a result of this specific problem, with i is actually a little bit different than the one that caused the major recalls earlier this year. it goes to show you there seems to be no end in sight to are this company. >> 2014 was the year of the recall right? >> indeed it was, and 30 million cars in total for gm to put this into context, they are paying out on claims death claims for 42 different families. already the company has taken a $2.5 billion charge for this. and there are more lawsuits in the pipeline. arizona already is suing for $3 billion. >> wow. >> so the pain is not gone for g gm at all, although people still keep buying their cars. >> that's also mind-boggling.

they never stop. rough weather is making it hard for divers in the java sea. the search for 8501 being concentrated in a zone the size of delaware. underwater submersibles are another way serge searchers can locate the wreckage. in a wake of devastation, a business once created for ocean exploration is finding itself in the business of plane recovery. bluefin robotics makes submersible, autonomous underwater vehicles nonas auy 's have -- auvs built for discovery. but more recently they've been used for discovery. why was your vehicle chosen? >> our vehicle supports that because it's easily broken down

into small modular people and rapidly shipped around the world. >> earlier this year, the blue fin 21 spent three weeks searching for malaysia airlines flight an 11 million dollar effort. now a recovery effort bluefin could help with is under way. would your vehicle with good to use in the airasia crash? >> it can be employed in that if need be our vehicles could map a debris field and help collect faster response time. >> the wreckage of flight 8501 has been found but the debris could be scattered across the ocean floor. it's the type of mission that's helped increase bluefin's business by 15% this year. and in the case of the airasia plane, their auvs could once again been o on the front line.

they spend 25 hours searching for a plane and cost half a million to $5 million. >> when you think about it it's not that much money. ship time is tens of thousands of dollars a day to hundreds of thousands of dollars a day depending on the type of ship so auvs make ship time more efficient. so you can recoup ship time by using vehicles. >> when the bluefin is in the water an operate o plans the search path. from there it's on its own. at up to 5,000 impeachmenters it uses sound sonar to record what it senses. when it surface, the operator can download the data and see images like these. how do i know if i'm looking at a rock or back boston red sox. >> you have to be a trained sonar analyst. one of the things that's amazing about this technology is the resolution some the systems has increased. quite a lot of detail so as you can see that's a field of rocks on the left. as the resolution improves and

the technology get mrs. efficient and systems get better at delivering higher quality data interpretive risk goes down. >> isemotional part to doing what you do? >> you never want to be a part of a tragic event like this. you never want these things to happen. but if we can help in any way we can, i think we should. still to come in the newsroom oregon players mock jameis winston after the route at the rose bowl. >> i don't know if you could hear it but they're chanting "no means no." ouch. cnn's andy scholes is in new orleans. hi andy. >> hey, carol. that has a lot of people shaking their heads. i'll tell you what the university of oregon had to say about it. plus ohio state shocks alabama in the sugar bowl. highlights after the break.

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we've got the teams for college football's title game oregon and the ohio state university advanced to the first ever championship matchup after winning their bowl games. cnn's andy scholes drew the lucky straw. he's in new orleans with the sugar bowl that became an instant classic as if it wasn't before. >> that game was just awesome. a perfect example of why ledge football fans have haven't add playoff. at the rose bowl tasteless off-the-field actions are making headlines. some oregon players were caught on video mocking the seminoles tomahawk chop. take a listen. >> no means no. no means no.

so they were chanting "no means no." they seem to be referencing jameis winston's sexual assault allegation which is he was never charged for. in a statement oregon said this was unacceptable and the players will be disciplined. those actions, they came after the majority of florida states' players did not shake hands with the ducks after the game. they were clearly frustrated after having just an epic meltdown in the second half. florida state turned the ball over five times, including a jameis winston fumble that rivalled the infamous mark sanchez butt fumble when he played for the jets. oregon scored and cruised to a 59-20 win. >> no one likes to lose man. i mean that's -- losing is not really in my vocabulary to be honest with you. but, you know, we fell short today. >> it's an incredible feeling. you prepare all week and to find success and to be able to

execute the way we did, it feels good. hopefully we can take a little bit of this momentum heading into the next game. at the sugar bowl, the game was a nail biter. ohio state's third-string quarter back jones, led the buckeyes on a 28-0 run and they were able to hold off a late charge by alabama to pull off a huge upset, 42-35. >> maybe the big 10 is not that bad. maybe the big 10 is pretty dam good and it's certainly getting better. >> i just can't believe it. we stuck together and said we have to go out in the second half and quit the mental mistakes and play the game. >> we got to see the two best teams playing for it all. it's an honor being there. so i'm glad the playoff system is intact now. >> the stage is set. it will be ohio state taking on oregon in the first-ever college

football playoff national championship game. it will be january 12 at at&t stadium in arlington, texas. and, carol, oregon is a touchdown favorite to win the game but that being head ohio state, they are 8-0 all time against the ducks. so they've got that going for them. >> i think we should keep that in mind the ohio state university. andy scholes, thanks so much. the next hour of cnn "newsroom" starts now. good morning, i'm carol costello. thank you for being with me. we begin w the race to find the wreckage of airasia flight 8501 and all the souls who perished on board. more debris is found floating including an apparent window panel. experts say it's almost certainly from an aircraft. it will take more certainty to determine if it's from the doomed