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alive. >> and new terror arrests overnight. just how close spanish authorities say four men were to pulling off a paris-style attack. good morning. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell you're in the "cnn newsroom." >> we want to begin with news president obama is cutting his visit to india short to go to saudi arabia. this is a time when there's so much unrest in that region. here's the map of where he will be. the change in plan after saudi king abdullah died at the age of 90. >> the president left this morning for new delhi to visit india's prime minister. the first lady alongside him. cnn's white house correspondent michele kosinski has details for us. good morning, michele. >> reporter: hi, christi and victor. this is somewhat unexpected news since it seemed like the schedules had been established. the question initially, when we learned of king abdullah's
death, what does this mean for the president's trip to india, would he have to cancel that would he go to saudi arabia? the white house established vice president biden would lead a delltation to saudi arabia and that the president's plans in india would continue. but then news broke in india from officials here that the president had cut his trip short. not by a long period of time. in fact less than a day. he'll still be able to give remarks on tuesday. once that broke, then the white house did release a statement early this morning saying that was the case that they -- they said they looked at the schedules of when the vice president would land in saudi arabia versus when the president was scheduled to leave india and decided it was just too tight a window of time why not have president obama continue on to saudi arabia on his way back to the u.s. again, not cutting his trip here short by much. our question was, why decide that now? weren't these schedules known in the beginning when this was all
being planned. that leads to questions of maybe the white house just thought it would be better for president obama to attend with other world leaders there in saudi arabia to pay his respects. but they're not giving any more detail just saying that now skeds the schedules allow it and the president and first lady will go to saudi arabia. christi and victor. >> appreciate it. thank you. to another story we're watching very closely. the fate of two hostages in isis hands. on tuesday, isis demanded japan pay $200 million or it would kill both men within 72 hours. that deadline has come an gone. will rippley is following developments out of tokyo. what's the latest on the hostages this morning? >> things here in tokyo have been early quiet since the -- eerily quiet since the deadline came and went about two japanese men caught in the middle of a horrible ordeal when they appeared on the isis video with
an executioner standing in between them. this has been a very difficult time for japan and the japanese government since tuesday, has been trying to open a line of communication, a direct line of communication, with isis. they've been using diplomatic channels. prime minister abe had a conversation with the king of jordan speaking with officials in turkey intelligence sources on the ground are trying to use back channels to see if they can connection with isis. no success. and isis spokesperson has exchanged some e-mails with the japanese broadcaster but very few questions were answered and a statement that was promised has not yet materialized. meanwhile, officials are also monitoring social media accounts but none of the major accounts have posted any credible information ability the status of these two hostages which means that even now that this deadline has passed the uncertainty and anxiety for the families and for this country continues to build because people here know that at any moment a video could surface,
some news could break, but all that they can do is wait and worry. >> all right. will ripley in tokyo, thank you. breaking news story in spain this morning. authorities have arrested four men in spain's north african territory of ceuta. officials say they're two pairs of brothers who were strongly radicalized and prepared to carry out an attack and possibly blow themselves up. spanish officials say there are, quote, many similarities with the two brothers said and cherif kouachi who carried out the recent attacks in paris that killed 20 people. meanwhile in yemen, the u.s. is already reducing its personnel after the fall of the yemeni government. the embassy is still open we know but officials say they will reassess the situation as things on the ground change. also kurdish militia are battling isis on the outskirts of the northern iraqi city of mosul. these are some of the most recent pictures we've gotten in. the pentagon tells cnn it's prepared to recommend a small number of u.s. military advisors
join the upcoming iraqi assault to retake that city if needed. now the possible recommendation would need to be approved but president barack obama. so u.s. military advisors could be going near the front lines in iraq as a terror crackdown ramps up across europe with more arrests. a lot overnight. >> there's political chaos in the capital key ally and militant hotbed yemen. we've discussed that. all this unfolding this morning. let's bring in cnn national security analyst peter bergp. first, how significant are these arrests by spanish authorities? >> well this spanish enclave on the coast of north africa has been a frequent kind of incubator of militant islam. and, you know, we don't really know yet the details about this plot but this is not the first time that we've seen people from the small spanish enclave getting involved in militant islam and they probably won't be the last victor.
>> we also know when we talk about yemen, let's move to yemen now, because it's particularly chaotic there, we know several hundred diplomats and u.s. military personnel are there in yemen. so wondering, should the u.s. evacuate the embassy in yemen and how easy or how ready are they to do so? >> i think they're ready to do it but i think it would be a very bad idea to do it unless it was absolutely, you know under siege in such a manner that it was mandatory. this is not the benghazi consulate. this is a well defended embassy that's been the subject of frequent protests and taattacks in the past. there were standards after the embassy attacks in africa that were implemented for a lot of embassies and high risk areas. you know it's a very tough place to attack. also you know, we've seen in the past christi, when we've closed american embassies in sudan in the mid '90s we lost the fact that al qaeda was forming there in a serious manner. we just didn't have eyes on the place. similarly when we closed our
embassy in afghanistan in 1989 we really kind of missed the importance of the rise of the taliban that followed. and, of course they harbored al qaeda. so there's real costs in closing our embassies and we've already closed a lot of them around the middle east syria, and in libya. you know i don't think it sends a particularly good message and i think also american diplomats in these posts know that these are so-called hardship postings and they are hardships. they are -- you're on a short relatively short tour don't come with your family. people going into this want to serve in these places and, of course this is the critical place, the information about al qaeda in yemen and it's critical to the drone program that has been very detsmental to al qaeda in yemen over the past several years. >> i want to ask about the news we got this morning that president obama would be going to saudi arabia instead of vice president biden. the white house explains this as schedules becoming clearer and it makes more sense to send the president, but possibly probably there's more than that.
why do you think the decision was made? >> it's a very good decision victor because, you know, saudi arabia has since, you know, since roosevelt met with the saudi king on the deck of the destroyer in the arabian sea, and world war ii this has been the closest ally the united states has in the middle east and basically there's been, you know we have some fundamental disagreements with the saudis on at lot of issues. they are extremely concerned about our negotiations with iran. they are very opposed in those negotiations. they're very concerned that it would allow iran some kind of nuclear capability. we are concerned about their human rights record. we've had this blogger who's been flogged and has caused quite conster fashion in the united states about the way they treat their dissidents. king abdullah was very unhappy about the fact that we pushed to get hosni mubarak out as egyptian president there. the saudis are rightly concerned
about the fact that there's absolutely no progress on the israeli/palestinian kind of negotiations. so there's a whole raft of issues that we have some disagreements about and i think it's the right thing for president obama to go and meet the new king and it sort of validate the succession plan. but the other big story here, victor, they've appointed a deputy crown prince a different generation prince muhammad bin my yes, minister of interior, close kind of -- corporated closely with american officials on counterterrorism and another thing to go over there and validate and say this is a great decision. >> yeah. he's actually ali ahmed, who is a critic of the regime said the west has praised him as being a hero in the war on terrorism, but inside saudi arabia he's known as an oppressor. what do you take of that? >> well i mean i know both gentlemen and, you know, some things can be simultaneous plyly
true. certainly saudi arabia has a record on suppressing dissent that is quite, you know, wouldn't pass muster in any country like the united states. that said al qaeda really staged almost like a domestic insurgency in saudi arabia in 2003 2004. it wasn't just a terrorism campaign. they attacked american facilities oil facilities pipelines, and prince mow mu ham mad was critical to basically ending that and the reason we have al qaeda in yemen they were all in saudi arabia and the saudi pressure on this group forced them into -- in yemen their neighbor to the south. so, you know, it's obviously quite a different system. it is an absolute monarchy. there's no disguising that fact. crown prince abdullah and king abdullah who has recently died was instrumental in moving the country incrementally, in a slightly more kind of i would say pluralistic direction, but we're talking very minor steps.
it's also a country which is very conservative. many of the people are more conservative than the monarchy. they don't necessarily want the things we would assume that anybody would want which is women to drive and more access to jobs. that's kind of a radical position in saudi arabia for a lot of people. >> we will see if the incremental reforms continue under king salman. thank you for the insight. >> thank you. >> take a glance at the screen. eastern ukraine. violence breaking out again between rebels and government forces. it's intensifying now. up next the latest on the conflict. >> and photo journalist tom guric is chasing a winter storm hitting the northeast. he's been out there all morning. the rain the ice, the snow right now he's in stanford in southern connecticut. he's going to continue heading north along with this storm and keeping us apprised of what we need to watch out for.
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eastern ukraine. it comes just days after intense fighting between rebels and government forces. we have new video. you're watching it now, shows the afternoon math of some of the devastation. on the phone from the capital city of kiev victoria. tell us more about where this is happening and what you're hearing there from the capital? >> well, the city of mariucle poll is a strategic city. secondly it is on the way from the rebel pro-russian separatist controlled areas to the crimea annexed by russia last year and some of the analysts indicate russia might want to do a corridor to crimea and mariupoll is on the way. local authorities say they see no movement of troops or militants over the city and say the situation is under control. >> what more have we learned about the victims? i understand that some of or at
least one of the 16 killed was a young child? >> well we do have a confirmed death of one child, five other children have been hospitalized. and most of the victims actually are people who were on the street during the shelling. it's important to know the weapons used is called the grad multiple rocket shelling system. a launch of artillery fire from the weapon destroys the area that is equal to soccer field and so a lot of the people in the suburbs of the city who were on the street who were inside they were hit by the fire. there is a lot of -- there is a great number of people trying to evacuate from this area at the moment victor. >> all right. journalist victoria butenko from the capital city in kiev, thank you so much.
meanwhile the terrorism crackdown across europe continues in the wake of the paris attacks. now new video of a suspect who is the subject of an international terror manhunt. cnn justice correspondent pamela brown has this for us. >> reporter: belgium authorities are trying to hunt down the man seen here reportedly walking behind suspected french algerian isis fighter. officials say mamus allegedly killed four people at the brussels museum last may. now the prosecutor in brussels says this man may have been one of his accomplices in the museum shooting. this as authorities it continue efforts to track down the alleged ringleader in a foiled attack targeting police officers this month. according to interpol secretary general, there is increased concern of islam radicalization across europe. >> we have independent cells within our countries, maybe not
in any command and control structure and, of course we have the lone wolves and we have those returning from the conflict zones and posing threats to the countries where they come from. >> reporter: in the weeks following the paris attacks at least half a dozen european countries cracked down on terror cells arresting associates of the french attackers as well as those believed to be planning separate attacking. >> it's very difficult to detect plans, to identify plans before terrorists can take action against innocent people. >> reporter: the fbi is assisting french authorities with their investigation into the paris attacks analyzing forensics, laptops, fingerprints and names through data bases as they look for other potential accomplices of the suspects amedy coulibaly and the kouachi brothers. it's believed several associates are hiding in syria including coulibaly's wife hayat boumeddine. a defensive turkish prime minister spoke to cnn's richard
quest. >> we discovered that lady and informed france. if we -- >> but you lost her? >> because it was -- we were not informed in advance. we were not informed in advance. can you blame spain because she went to spain? if you cannot blame france and spain you cannot blame turkey. >> reporter: pamela brown, cnn, pair is. the nfl is talking about deflate-gate. >> deflate-gate. hear what the league has to say about the ongoing investigation into the new england patriots. >> it's a gate now. a live look at the i-95 corridor in southern southern connecticut. guess whose he's making okay time. chasing a winter storm bringing rain ice, snow to the northeast. where it's expected to hit the hardest we've got that next. you give... and you give...
friends in the northeast may have just wanted to stay inside today because of the brutal storm making a mess of that area. here's a live look at the highways of connecticut this morning. photo journalist tom is out there on the streets for us chasing this storm as it makes its way to boston. tom, could take good care of yourself there. he said it's slippery but not horrible. >> the only driver on the road here.
>> that's why it's not horrible. >> let's go to manhattan. snow is already falling. has been for a couple hours now. the new yorks office of emergency management has issued a travel advisory for the five burr boroughs. we have massachusetts. state emergency operation centers are open and tracking the storm. you can see why. more serious situation here. they've got a little more cover. live pictures from boston suburb. the city could see up to a half foot of snow today. >> ivan cabrera. >> you go ahead. >> he's in the cnn weather center tracking the storm. looks like boston is getting hit the worst. >> boston getting hit. tom was going at a pretty good clip there. i want to see the sped tore see if we're staying under the speed limit. that's a good sign. that means the roads are clear as far as any icing here and i don't think that is going to be an issue. here is the rain/snow line that notice it has moved up a little bit towards boston and now
collapsed again to the south. so i think in boston we're just going to continue the snow over the next several hours and we're going to probably pick up a couple more inches there over the next couple hours and heading into later this afternoon. it is a boston event at this point and we're done in philly done in new york. i'll show you some of the snow tote unless a second but there you see on the backside of it here, as the storm pushes to the northeast, the snow continues to move back down to the south and so that by 5:30 we're still snowing in boston and then we'll get rid of this. nice day on sunday. we'll clear the road on sunday and get ready for the next storm, more of a southerly track for this one. philly, new york washington, d.c. get ready for that and that's going to be coming in on monday morning. so that's going to be a mess for us. winter storm warning posted at this hour from harrisburg continuing into new york and into boston. i think at this point here this is the area that we're going to be most concerned about in boston as the snow plows will be out there and i think they're going to have more to contend
with as we head into later this afternoon. snow totals any from where from to 6 to 10 inches. look at this 3.1 in i slip but new york 3.4 inches never snowed that much on january 24th. there we are, good totals 8 to 9 inches from butler to highland lakes in new jersey. this could have been worse, it could have been an icing event. it has been a snow event which as you have mentioned we can deal with because that can be removed and less slippery on the roads. >> very good point. >> ivan cabrera thank you so much. >> thank you. the nfl is saying something about weight being called deflategate. >> but did they really shed any light on this scandal that's casting a shadow on the super bowl? >> and think about these families now. nearly a month after airasia flight 8501 crashed into the java sea, crews were out there today troughs to raise the wreckage to the surface. they ran into some problems, though. we'll talk about that.
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is. any time we get to talk about tom brady's balls is a good day for me. >> gloria allred is representing nine of the 11 balls tom brady allegedly squeezed. >> that's funny. i hadn't heard the second one. all jokes aside the nfl is trying to figure out if there was any intentional wrongdoing in the -- what is being dubbed deflate-gate. the super bowl bound new england patriots the league says used football that did not meet specifications.
let's bring in sarah. the nfl has it figured out why the balls were deflated if not who's responsible? >> yeah. that was pretty funny. still laughing from that. the if nfl is taking this seriously. finally breaking their silence and saying there is evidence that some of the balls that the patriots used during their afc championship game were under inflated. like you said the question becomes how did that happen and was it deliberate? is someone to blame? >> autoi have no knowledge of anything. i have no knowledge of any wrongdoing. >> no knowledge whatsoever of this situation. >> reporter: their head coach and biggest star quarterback tom brady have both denied any knowledge or involvement but deflate-gate continues to dog the new england patriots on their way to the super bowl. yesterday, the nfl released a statement saying evidence suggests the patriots did use under inflated football during
the first half of the afc championship game. the league says it's investigating the matter, quote, to determine the explanation for why footballs used in the game were not in compliance and specifically whether any noncompliance was the result of deliberate action. the patriots are cooperating with the investigation according to both the nfl and to patriots owner robert kraft. the controversy began last weekend during the game against the indianapolis colts. reports surfaced that 11 of the 12 footballs provided by the patriots were under inflated by about 2 pounds per square inch each. an under inflated ball is easier to grip giving the passer and his receivers an advantage. >> i didn't alter the ball in any way. once i approve the balls that's the ball i expect out there on the field. >> according to nfl rules a referee inspects each football about two hours before kickoff and again at halftime. the league says the footballs were properly inflated for the second half of the game.
as the investigation continues, patriots' players are downplaying the controversy and looking ahead to the super bowlp. >> i'm done with all that. like i said my focus is seattle. >> now, as part of this investigation, the nfl says it's conducted more than 40 interviews but tom brady, the quarterback, said on thursday that he had not yet been interviewed by the nfl. of course that investigation is ongoing and aside from interviews they're looking at physical evidence but they have not put a timeline on when this investigation could be complete. victor? >> all right. sarah reporting for us outside gillette stadium stay warm. let's bring in cnn sports analyst christine brennan. >> yeah. we want to bring her in. there she is. hi good to see you. >> great to see you both. thanks. >> thank you. so the league responded. give us a percentage here 50 60%, if that as to whether we're going to hear a final result on the investigation this coming week?
>> oh, i think the odds are less than 50% that we will hear a final word on this christi. i think if you ask for a percentage some ways i think almost 0% although there's always a chance. let's say 33% or so. but here's why. this, of course, is the marquee week for the national football league in the most troubling year it has had probably ever with the ray rice video, domestic violence all the things that obviously everyone knows and now here we are with this. i cannot imagine the nfl on a wednesday or a thursday wants to drop the bombshell of suspensions and fines on one of the two teams playing in the super bowl. the flip side of that, though would be to say hey, we're dealing with it this is important to us we can meat out punishment quickly and you could see this scenario which is why there's still that chance but what a distraction and this story will just continue through the next week in phoenix. >> let me ask you this. if it's found out that either belichick or brady did, in fact
know what was going on is there any indication what punishment they could face? >> well that would be a very big deal because that would mean they lied, they went out and willfully lied in their press conferences and that would be surprising to me because they looked like they had talked to pr people and they talked to lawyers and, you know, they were ready for this. so the fines and suspension absolutely. i don't know about -- i think it would all go to next year. wouldn't involve the super bowl. but a fine absolutely. maybe draft choices again. i think the nfl would be very upset if those two people wept out will and lied to their fans to the media, to the basically the world watching this kind of bizarre story and i think they would meat out significant punishment. >> i'm wondering if the same phrase is standing out to you that i think stood out to so many people "i had no knowledge of" not an outright denial but both of them "i had no knowledge of" and i've heard a lot of people talk about the fact that if this did happen and equipment
manager would never do this of his own accord they do not believe, an equipment manager would go with the guidance given to him by the quarterback, do you believe that to be true? >> i do yes. i have covered the nfl and covered a beat on the nfl for close to 30 years. and there is no way that a lonely equipment manager, important as that person can be is doing something on their own without the guidance or at least thinking that they're doing it for the quarterback or the player or the coach. that would be almost unimaginable that a renegade rogue equipment manager would be responsible for all of this. >> for all of this on his own. christine brennan, appreciate your insight. thank you for being here. >> my pleasure. thank you very much. officials believe areas of flight 8501 made a steep climb and stalled before it crashed into the java sea. up next inside a flight simulate simulator to show you what it may have been like for the
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and then speak with your gastroenterologist. high winds and rough waves forced divers to call off an operation to lift the wreck annual of airasia flight out of the water. >> divers will make another attempt tomorrow to use lift balloons. in the meantime search crews have recovered a total of 69 victims, which means 93 people are still missing. >> cnn aviation analyst mary ski yav vo on the phone, former inspector general of the u.s. department of transportation. mary good to have you with us on the phone. let's talk ates about the recovery effort. using these balloons is this usually the first option tried and if so what are the alternatives? >> well i wouldn't say it's the first option tried, but where they have a fuselage largely
intact it does make sense because the balloons would hopefully the flotation devices bring it up to the surface with the least amount of damage to the remains inside. other crashes into the water they've used recovery vessels, ships that are typically used for bringing up, for example, submarines or heavy objects from the bottom of the floor, sea floor, so that's additional assets that could be used but those, a lot of those, i'm thinking those have not been requested. at this point that's their best and the only option they're working with. >> do you expect they'll try to bring up the fuselage again, or they'll try to recover these bodies for more than 100 families that are waiting to lay these victims to rest? >> well i think they're going to try again. rough seas again is wreaking havoc with the efforts but i think they will try again to bring up the fuselage.
otherwise it's pretty rough work for the divers to go in the fuselage and try to collection the remains. so they might take another try to bring the fuselage and see if they can get it that way. >> you bring up the difficulty these divers are facing. can you expound upon that and just it tell us really what dangers are they facing the challenges they're facing under these rough conditions? >> well in addition it's a terribly traumatic endeavor to bring up at this point over 90 people or remains i should say, but you have to remember a modern jetliner literally has hundreds of miles of wires and cabling, sharp, jagged metal pieces you know, proposes a danger not just to the divers themselves but to their equipment and easy for someone to become entangled in the wreckage of the plane itself. it's a risky life event for them
to go down and do this and that's why i'm pretty certain they're going to try to bring the fuselage up as a whole. >> once the crews get the wreck am out of the java sea, where does it go next some? >> well because the endindonesians are keeping control of the accident they will send it off to the investigators there. but it's not just the indonesians. probably at this point one of the most important components of the investigation is the team from airbus and this being an airbus there's already tremendous numbers of clues and probably the answer to really what caused this accident on the flight data recorder and cockpit voice recording. they will want to look at the plane as well so the team of indonesians plus the air bus crew that are sent from airbus will be pouring over it and looking for clues. however because they have the black box and cockpit recorder i don't think it will play a big
role. >> thank you for helping us understand what's going on at the bottom of the java sea as they continue to try to lift this fuselage. thanks, mary. >> thank you. the movie "american sniper" is raking in millions of dollars at the box office. not everybody is celebrating its release. some legal issues may be at play here. we'll talk about it. music: melodic, calm music. hi this is conor. sorry i missed you. i'm either away from my desk or on another call... ... please leave a message and i'll get back to you... ... just as soon as i'm available. thank you for your patience at this busy time. join us for stargazing with discovery at sea. enjoy cruises from four ninety-nine during our 50th anniversary sale. call your travel consultant or 1-800-princess. princess cruises. come back new. for fastidious librarian emily skinner, each day was fueled by thorough preparation for events to come. well somewhere along the way emily went right on living. but you see, with the help of her
. let me ask you a question chris. would you be surprised if i told you that the navy has credited you with over 160 kills? douv do you ever think you might have seen things or done things over there you wish you hadn't? >> oh, that's not me no. >> the thing that haunts me are the guys i couldn't save. >> seen there from the blockbuster "american sniper" which has grossed more than $150 million worldwide but controversy continues to follow the oscar nomination about navy s.e.a.l. marksman chris kyle. the attorney of eddie ray, the iraq war veteran accused of killing kyle at a gun range in 2013, says he's concerned his client might not be able to get a fair trial in the wake of this
film's success. hln legal analyst joey jackson joining us now. lots of films are based on true stories. the timing of this, though have you ever seen anything like this with a film this popular, coming out, just weeks before -- or actually at this point a few days still now while it's in theater of a murder trial? >> sure. good morning christi. i think hollywood certainly considered that in the release of the movie. why? because then you get excess publicity and hollywood, of course is in the business of making movies popular, not necessarily in the bifs affecting the constitutional rights of people accused of crimes. will it have an effect? i think it does have an affect on your sixth amendment right to a fair trial. why? you have people focused on the movie, the movie making all sorts of waves, very popular, i've seen the movie, it's very good and so, therefore, if you have a jury pool they could certainly be affected by what they see, particularly as it
portrays chris kyle as the hero and sniper he is in the movie. anybody who would be responsible for taking his life certainly that jury would want to ensure that justice was meted out. >> what options does a judge have to ensure a fair trial? when you think about changing venue, this is a national movie. >> sure. i think there are three options. the first and most obvious is to select a jury which would be fair and impaushl partial. easyier said than done. you can get a luge jury pool. to keep in mind not that i'm saying the two trials are similar, the boston marathon case, 1350 potential jurors called in. can you get 12 at least to sit on a jury? that's the open question. you look at the aurora colorado, shooting as it relates to mr. holmes going on trial, 9,000 prospective jurors whoing are gboing to be evaluated. the issue is whether you can draw enough of that jury who perhaps hasn't seen the movie or doesn't know anything about "american sniper" or chris kyle
and that's the first option. the second, of course, as you mentioned is a change of venue and, of course, we're in a day and age of cell phones and smartphones and twitter and facebook that no matter where you go someone, of course would have seen it but that issue becomes, are they as closely connected to mr. kyle do they know him, do they have a connection to him as they may have in the county where the killing occurred? so perhaps if you further remove it from that area you have people who know of him but not maybe as fond of him. that could be an affect. the third option, of course, the judge has would be to delay the trial until such a time as the movie has died down the publicity has died down and otherwise people are on with their lives. those are the three options any court would be looking at. >> a lot is being made about roth's mental state. he pled not guilty by reason of insanity. kyle's widow doesn't accept linking his death to ptsd. to try to find an excuse is disgusting. i know people with ptsd and it's
very real and very hard but it doesn't change your core character. could any of kyle's comments break the protective order the judge ordered in this case? >> there's a gag order and a gag order is imposed to protect the right of a defendant accused. you don't want to inflame tensions don't want information out there, the case tried in the press. gag orders are effective as they relate to the parties of the action the prosecution and the defense. you don't want to be disciplined by the court, held in contempt disciplined by the bar association, but as it relates to a family member it's different. although the court order would have covered family members, do you really want and expect a judge and a grieving widow expressing concerns and who really is going through it do you want to punish her in any way? i think gag orders are difficult to impose in and otherwise enforce against family members. >> your perspective is always appreciated. thanks for making the time. >> any time. >> thank you. we'll be right back.
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preview of potential republican presidential candidates in iowa today. chris christie rick perry, ted cruz, taking the podium at the iowa freedom summit. courting republican donors and supporters. notable those potential candidates sitting out, mitt romney jeb bush marco rubio will not be in attendance. >> a colorado teenager sentenced to four years in prison after admitting she wanted to travel to syria to aid islamic militants. shannon connelly one of the first americans to be sentenced for conspiracy to support isis and the judge in the case hoped her sentence would discourage others from following in her footsteps. the u.s. supreme court will review oklahoma's lethal injection procedures after a botched execution last year that left an inmate to die slowly and gasping for air. the case brought by inmate was say the current system violates the constitution's ban on cruel and unusual punishment. oklahoma's attorney general defends the practice saying the state's process has been
affirmed by two federal courts. the chicago cubs mourns the loss of hall of famer ernie banks. he died friday night. banks was the cubs first african-american player and known as the greatest cub in franchise history. having played for the team for 19 season of his major league career. that earned him the nickname mr. cub. officials at wrigley paid trib taout butte to the two-time mvp on the marquee at wrigley field. he was 83 years old. reynoldsburg, ohio s.w.a.t. team went to budge an alleged thief ended up playing patty cake. the suspect juan hamilton took off after police say they smelled marijuana in his car. when they went to search his apartment he wasn't there but a family was. a girl sitting on the couch was scared went beyond duty asked her to sing hamilton by the way, was eventually arrested. the measles outbreak linked to disney land in california seems to be getting worse. the number of cases is now at
68 spread across several date states out west. that's up from 59 cases reported three days ago. about four dozen of those cases have a confirmed disney land connection. the cdc says people who have been vaccinated have no reason to worry about the virus. lots going on overnight in yimmen with the reports that president obama has changed his plans and he will be going to saudi arabia. that was not on his schedule. so we're going to hand it over to our colleague, fredricka witfield who will take it from here. >> good to see you guys indeed. a lot going on around the world and here in the nation and so many mourning the loss of ernie banks, we're going to also reveal a conversation i had with him last year and certainly hearts are very heavy and we'll take you across the globe so much like you said christi. yemen, saudi arabia and now learning information as it pertains to isis and the two
japanese held hostage. 11:00 eastern hour. i'm fredricka witfield "the newsroom" starts right now. we're following several developing stories this morning. president obama will head to saudi arabia tuesday in order to pay respects to the family of the late king abdullah and meet with the newly appointed king salman. we're waiting to learn the fate of two japanese men being held by isis who threatened them with beheading unless their country pays $200 million ransom. all of this is happening as the u.s. watches the disintegrating situation in one of its most important allies in the middle east yemen. which has offered critical help fighting the al qaeda affiliate there. cnn's erin mcpike is at the white house this morning and global affairs correspondent alease abbott is in jerusalem. ahis let's begin with you.
the president is now going to saudi arabia vice president joe biden had been scheduled to go. explain the switch and why this is so important for the president of the united states to pay respects in saudi arabia? >>. >> originally when the arrangements were being made for king abdullah's up if ral funeral, because of the president's trip he didn't think he would be able to make it in time. now that the program is set and several world leaders are coming to pay their respects to the new king king salman president obama was able to put his schedule in a new way and canceling a trip to the taj mahal something he wanted to do on his trip to india but now he will go to saudi arabia and pay his respects to king salman for the death of his brother and kind of kiss the ring if you will of the new saudi king. the relationship between the u.s. and saudi arabia so important, particularly in this time of regional chaos, but it's
a relationship that also has faced a lot of turmoil. king abdullah has complained and criticized president obama because he didn't think president obama paid enough attention to the region wasn't hearing enough of saudi concerns particularly about getting rid of syrian president bashar al assad, he was wary about the u.s. negotiations with iran but in recent months things had improved with the u.s. campaign against isis that saudi arabia has been participating in as well. what president obama really needs to do is solidify his relationship with the new king and get the u.s. relationship with saudi arabia back on a new footing. >> all right. let's talk elise, bring in erin mcpike at the white house. very clear why the relationship between the u.s. and saudi arabia is important and needs to continue to be so. this was a relatively expected decision for this president to make or was it a difficult one for this white house?
>> for president obama to go to saudi arabia to pay his respects some? >> of course. >> this was a decision they made overnight as they looked at the schedule closely and as elise mentioned obama is not going to the taj mahal and jnvice president biden was expected to go. do remember back to two weeks ago when the united states did not send a high profile official neither president obama or vice president biden to paris for the massive rally and got a lot of criticism for that. it's possible that could have weighed into some sort of decision here. but i would also point out with respect to saudi arabia it is a critical ally of the united states in the region especially in the war on isis and i say that because you remember back to september, it was a major announcement when saudi arabia said that they would be contributing to air strikes against some isis targets a and also saudi arabia is hosting
u.s. and coalition effort os train syrian opposition fighters in the ground war on isis and really helping out those efforts. so it's critical for president obama to pay his respects here. >> elise, back to you in jerusalem, what has been the reaction to the death of king abdullah? >> well it's surprising fred. i mean look the israeli public is very cynical, a lot of quips on social media about how there's a perceived double standard for the united states treatment towards saudi arabia despite its poor human rights record. the reaction of the government has been pretty extraordinary. former president shimon perez was in davos and called the death of king abdullah a loss for the region and peace in the middle east. king abdullah put forth the arab peace initiative trying to get all arab states to formalize relations with israel in the event of a palestinian state. that never happened but now the
new president has basically said that calling king abdullah a balanced and responsible leader someone who promoted a responsible vision for the region protector of jerusalem, as a custodian of the holy sites and also someone that could have a hand in peace and so i think that's really interesting because nowadays saudi arabia and israel not the enemies that they used to be. a lot of common caution in-- cause in the new rejorngs see iran in the same way, isis there's a very quiet relationship maybe secret talks in a begrudging respect of one another, even if that doesn't play out to the public so i think the israelis are trying to send a message to this new king that we're not your enemy and we can have common cause in this tumultuous region. >> elise and erin thanks so much to both of you ladies.
and now this breaking news we want to share with you. one of the japanese hostages held by isis may have been killed. let's get to will ripley in tokyo with the latest. what are you hearing, will? >> well fred this is now on wall-to-wall coverage on all of the major japanese networks and what they are showing is a photo of the hostage, the freelance journalist kenji goto holding up another photo which appears to be claims to be the decapitated body of haruna yukawa the japanese man who was captured in august and then appeared this week in an isis video with kenji goto as an isis executioner stood between them demanding $200 million from the japanese government. now, this new video is different from other isis videos that we have seen. it is an audio recording of a voice claiming to be kenji goto and features a still photo, the still photo i ascribe to you and in this recording, kenji goto
blames japanese prime minister shinzo abe for not responding to the demands of isis within 72 hours and he says abe has killed yukawa and i could be next. however, he also says that isis is now no longer demanding money, but instead, a prisoner exchange and he mentions convicted terrorist al washawi a name that may be familiar to some because of the 2005 bombings. she was sentenced to death by hanging but has been appealing her sentence for a number of years now. we know within the past few hours, prime minister abe was on the phone with the king of jordan jordan is where this terrorist that isis is demanding be released is being held in prison and so as we put the pieces together it seems as if abe was in communication with the king of jordan earlier this evening, that this video and the
isis supporter who posted the video claims it was passed to the family of kenji goto and to the japanese government at some point within the last several hours. but this video, again, doesn't have the slick high polished production quality of other isis videos. just an audio recording, a still picture. there is no isis insignia on the screen burned in. the isis logo we see on all of their videos. so we need to say here that there are some intelligence analysts who are reviewing this right now and skeptical about the video's authenticity. if you see the photo now starting to circulate on-line, hopefully the blurred version because clearly it's a graphic image that kenji goto is holding if it is haruna yukawa's body with his head placed on the body i apologize for the graphic description, i know this is daytime in the united states and maybe we should -- if you have your kids you might want to take them away from the screen
but we need to report what is being put out there right now. obviously very devastating news for the family of yukawa. kenji goto saying in the video there is still hope for him, fredricka, if the isis demands of this prisoner demands are met. >> thank you so much. stick around however. and again, cnn has not au authenticated the video you speak of and we are not showing it. it is too gruesome to gratuitous at this juncture so we understand that these are graphic details that may be very difficult for many of our viewers to stomach. meantime let's go to jamana who is in amman, jordan. maybe you can explain more what will was talking about, which is now this potential -- this proposed prisoner swap and that the king of jordan may have been involved in conversations as well as now isis demanding a prisoner swap of someone who is being held in jordan.
>> well fred jordan has been in close contact with japan since that initial deadline earlier this week was issued by isis. the deputy foreign minister of japan has been heading a crisis in operations center that has been set up at the japanese embassy in amman but officials both the japanese officials here in jordan and the jordanian government have been really tight lipped about what is going on behind the scenes. it's not clear what jordan can offer because jordan it itself has been dealing with its own hostage situation with jordanian pilots whose jet crashed in isis territory near ruka and isis has been holding the pilot since. assumptions of speculation possibly jordan has some sort of channels for any possible talks reaching out to isis for the
japanese hostages but this has not been confirmed here. now, the demand as you mentioned is for the release of a member of a husband and wife team who were involved in a series of near simultaneous attacks on three jordanian hotels on november 9th 2005. now her exploiv vest failed to detonate at that wedding party here in amman at that hotel. she fled captured by authorities and in 2006 she was sentenced to death. fred jordan for nearly eight years more than eight years, really had halted the death sentence and just resumed back in december. jordan's official position it will not cave into such demands and will not negotiate for terrorists. a tough position for jordan. we have been trying to reach the government spokesman to get their comment on this. it is unclear yet. it is important to also note
that rashawi, the history here she is believed to have been part of the team sent by the leader and founder of al qaeda in iraq the predecessor of isis to carry out those attacks. her brother was believed to be a close associate of za carry who was killed by the u.s. military in iraq still a prominent figure for isis right now. so we will keep you posted on what the jordanian government my say in the coming hours about this. >> thanks so much. stick around. of course for viewers just now joining us a video does claim that one of the japanese hostages being held by isis has been executed. there is a video but cnn has not been able to authenticate it and made the decision it's to graphic to be sharing with our viewers. let's continue this conversation and the dynamics of the demands
now being made by isis. first $200 million in exchange for the release of the two japanese now isis saying in the exchange of a prisoner held in jordan they will release the remaining living japanese hostage. let's bring in cnn global affairs analyst and writer for the daily beastp. we call upon you, kimberly you have great expertise in ha region and the dynamics of counterterrorism efforts and terrorist groups and their activity. we're talking about isis changing the demands, mid-stream now, at the same time claiming that one of the hostages has been killed. are we also seeing that isis prps is embolden feels they're in a bold place now to be able to make new demands and perhaps they have leverage here? >> what it could indicate is that they have through back channel communications with the japanese government realized they're not going to get $200
million. but they thought okay what is another thing within their per view to deliver. how about a hostage, a female hostage, that -- i'm sorry a female prisoner held in the region and is another symbol of their power. all along, what you've seen behind the scenes is this planning by isis to find a way to stay in the media's eye. they've had the japanese hostages for a while, but they strategically released that video and those demands you notice right after al qaeda in the arabian peninsula was getting all the attention for the "charlie hebdo" massacre. so now we see them changing mid-stream in terms of their demands, but one thing that could indicate perhaps that they've been weakened is the change in the media content, the way they've delivered this message. the u.s. military has said that they have taken out thousands possibly up to 6,000 members of
isis, including a lot of their leadership. it's just possible that they did manage to strike either someone who had the expertise to film and edit these kind of slick messages putting them together they also might have taken out some of the transmission points or the computers and equipment used to send those messages. so that's all of those possibilities out there, fredricka. >> so more on this media savviness, so to speak, we've heard will ripley talking about an audio recording of one of the japanese kenji goto making a plea to the japanese prime minister shaming the japanese government so to speak for not giving up the money. this, too, kind of speaks to the manipulation of media that isis has become very good at doing. >> absolutely. they staged these messages spacing them out, so that every time their popularity begins to wane in terms of number of
youtube hits or however they're sending these messages out on jihadi forums this puts them back in the headlines again. now the u.s. has said this is partly because they're trying to recruit followers to take the place of all of those fighters who have been killed on the battlefield. the u.s. announced this week it has stepped up attacks in the area around mosul, possibly foreshaddoing a move to drive asis or attempt to drive isis out of that city so if you are on a u.s. counterterrorism side looking at this and looking for signs of hope that something is working, if isis is changing what and how it does things that could indicate it's losing some of the personnel it needs to operate the way it has until now. >> fascinating stuff. thank you so much. also very sad kimberly dozer, appreciate it. we'll check back with you and we'll be back with much more from the "newsroom" after this.
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>> reporter: now, these arrests were taking place in the spanish enclave of ceuta, on the north coast of morocco in raids. the police found military uniforms hoods, knives and a gun. they're trying to find out if there was a deeper infrastructure that would have allowed them to carry out an attack. fredricka. >> then now there's another location that police have identified are they looking at a connection here? >> well i think you're referring to the other spanish enclave called malia on morocco's north coast. these have been seen as hotbeds of potential terrorism by spanish authorities because it's an easy way, just across the border from more rockco and those strips of lands on the mediterranean you're in spain, in europe and if you can get across to the mainland to the rest of the continent that's a big problem. there are muslim communities there, mainly law abiding but police have been finding increasingly cells they say are comprised of militants, terrorists and that's what they're trying to crack down on.
>> keep us posted. thanks so much al goodman, in madrid. coming up in the next hour i'll talk to former u.s. ambassador joe wilson i'll ask him about the new developments from saudi arabia to now even more u.s. troops in an advisory role to iraq. and yemen. also still ahead, 40 million americans dealing with nasty storms today. some areas getting up to 8 inches of snow. other areas getting freezing rain and sleet. live pictures right now from hartford connecticut. we'll tell you when the storm might be moving out.
all right. big number 40 million americans are getting another dose of severe winter weather. it is january after all, but this is pretty nasty stuff if you're trying to get around. live pictures right now, pretty nasty conditions in the northeast. winter storm warnings in effect from west virginia to maine, a state that could see up to 10 inches of snow. travel is going to be dicey but that's hartford connecticut, people. they are hearty. i used to live in connecticut. this amount of snow doesn't really look too bad for them right now. karen, what's next? >> it doesn't. the problem is fred as you well know you can handle snow you can handle somewhat the rain but it's going to be that
icy mix that's going to be very problematic. 40 million people in line to be somehow affected by this system. and it's racing up the eastern seaboard the i-95 corridor, that's what you've heard about for days now. this is the dividing line between who gets the ice, the snow and all that icy mix. i just took a look at newark new jersey. you're expecting 5 to 6 inches of snowfall. here's some of the snowfall accumulations already. highland lakes, new jersey 9 inches. so it's really going to be hit or miss. some areas could pick up a couple inches. other areas are going to be walloped, could see about a foot but that's going to be interior sections and higher elevations. move further to the north look at boston under the sun here -- under the gun, rather with no sun and lots of snow. exactly. for new york city the rain the ice. looks like you're going to see it off and on today. may continue with that rainfall and then see that snow start to move on in.
new york city central park 2 1/2 inches of snowfall already. >> looks so pretty. >> it is beautiful. i think we have a picture out of columbus circle. it looks pretty nice. imagine the quagmire that happens here and forget about getting a taxi. it's not going to happen now. you're right, fred thank goodness it is saturday because if we were looking at a weekday, this would be really much more severely impacted. we took a look at philadelphia. they're reporting probably the biggest or longest delays. but also newark jfk, laguardia philadelphia as i mentioned, is one of the worst areas but all the which from west virginia and north carolina where some of the higher elevations are looking at significant snowfall with what will be another clipper system on top of this you've already got the snowfall 6 to 10 inches as we go north of boston into vermont, new hampshire, into maine, down east 4 to 8 inches
expected there. here comes the clipper. what's the clipper. this is our nor'easter. we go way out here across the midwest into the great lakes. that's the clipper system that will bring those temperatures riding right along the freezing line, see the clipper system move in sunday going into monday, high temperatures fred in the teens in some areas. >> oh, gosh. >> yeah. so that's where the black ice comes in to play. >> it is. >> dangerous right in time for that commute. next 48 to 72 hours, very messy across that corridor. >> folks go over their contingency plans now. still ahead, tata it's a who's who in iowa today. potential candidates trying get a leg up in what's expected to be a crowded field for the presidency. we'll go live to the iowa freedom summit. next.
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good morning again, everybody. welcome. i'm fredricka witfield. republican presidential hopefuls are gathering in iowa today for the iowa freedom summit. the summit is organized by iowa congressman steve king and citizens united a conservative non-profit organization. it's a way to bring activists together with conservative leaders and there are several big names scheduled to speak. they include ben carson chris christie and sarah palin. some of the top contenders who are not there, talking contenders for 2016 potential run, mitt romney jeb bush senators marco rubio and rand paul. cnn's political director david chalen is at the summit in des moines. good to see you. all right. let's start with who is not there. is it the case those four
candidates i mentioned are not looking for support from the cub servetive base or they have the financial infrastructure in place and don't need this? >> oh, no they need it. every candidate needs it. i do think that they'll have plenty of opportunities for the year ahead to meet with these conservative activists here. this is the first cattle call. it is sort of the starting line of the 2016 race for the white house. and i have no doubt that all the candidates not here mitt romney jeb bush you mentioned marco rubio, rand paul will have plenty of time to meet with these folks. you mentioned congressman steve king as one of the hosts here. when he took the stage earlier, fred, he thinks the next president of the united states will be on the stage today. so that was a little sort of elbow to those other candidates no the here today. >> a little slight there. so chris christie perhaps he stands the best chance out of the field right now in that he seems to be able to benefit from the kind of moderate support and
maybe some conservatives, but is he kind of, you know the unusual one here since this is the place that is most appealing to conservatives and he's kind of on the fence? or some would hesay he's straddling the fence of both. >> some of the candidates are likely going to spend time in iowa compete in iowa the folks take their role seriously at being first in the nation and like poking and prodding the candidates. chris christie i think all eyes are on him today because he comes from the same sort of establishment wing of the party like mitt romney and jeb bush who are not here so he does have a moment here to sort of be from that establishment side but try to appeal to the conservative base here. these are the activists who really show up to the caucuses a year from now. and you can't really win the iowa caucuses without having some appeal across the whole spectrum of the party. chris christie is aware of that and why you see him out here today. it's interesting to hear his
message because this is not normally his sort of base audience. >> i guess people think or maybe the, you know, conventional wisdom is you have to appeal to iowa you have to do well in iowa in order to do well whether it be during a primary season or even when it comes down to the big race? >> well iowa serves sort of as a win doing factor in the field. we know the last two winners in the iowa caucus on the republican sides, mike huckabee in 2008 rick santorum in 2012 did not go on to win the nomination, obviously, and sort of come out of that evangelical christian conservative social base of the party, but nonetheless, it does play a role. you have to show that you can compete here you do have to show that you can take all the questions, sorry about that you have to take all the questions from people, whether at the state fair or events like this you can't just bypass it but it's not necessarily needed a win here to win the nomination. >> all right. i love it. good suf. david, appreciate it. let's talk more about this iowa
freedom summit and then like kind of go into the whole race for the 2016. joining us from our washington newsroom chris moody and steven colinson both political correspondents for cnn digital. to you first, is chris christie trying to have it both ways so to speak, to appeal to the conservative base but also appeal to the moderates? >> yes. the answer would be to that question. it's a kind of tried and trusted way of running for president. you have to win the nomination first, you have to appeal to activists before you can go into the general election and appeal to a wider audience. chris christie it's interesting he's here because he does have to build some ties with the evangelical conservative base not really his natural constituency. he needs to show in the iowa caucuses -- doesn't necessarily need to win it, but show he's competitive. if he doesn't do so he has a bad
showing, that puts him in a difficult position going into the new hampshire primary, primaries like florida and south carolina where other candidates like jeb bush and mitt romney might be strong. if he doesn't do well in iowa he's under pressure and the other thing is, you know it's going to be interesting to see how this new jersey brash political persona plays in a more sort of again genteal constituency. >> how much does this summit matter for all of those who showed up? >> in the grand scheme of things a year to go before the first caucasus and almost two years before the first election. not much. as david mentioned from iowa these possible candidates will have plenty of time to be prodded as he said by iowans. maybe steve king will hold it against a couple of them for not showing up but i think that they -- iowans are going to get their fill of these folks and they'll have plenty of opportunities for sure. >> all right. chris moody, steven colinson
thank you to both of you gentlemen. appreciate it. the race is on isn't it some. democrats have announced their convention plans. party officials say they will nominate their 2016 presidential candidate at the democratic convention the week mark your calendars of july 25th but guess what still undecided the where. columbus, ohio? new york? philadelphia? all contenders. which city will it be hosting the dnc. the republicans have chosen the place and the dates for its festivities, the republican convention will be held july 18th through 21st in cleveland, ohio. all right. still ahead, an outbreak of measles that started at disney land of all places before christmas and guess what now it's spread to seven states schools and hospitals, on alert, as health officials try to stop this spread of the virus. [ male announcer ] it's a warning.
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outbreak in 15 years. there have been 68 cases so far, most of them are linked to disney land in anaheim. cases have spread to several states the latest nebraska and nevada. mexico has also been hit. a measles is a respiratory disease caused by a virus and spread through the air. it was thought to be eliminated back in 2000 but now the disease has surfaced again. health officials say onep are is the rising number of unvaccinated children. here's cnn's paul vercanaan. >> reporter: officials traced the measles outbreak here to the middle of december. >> we have it throughout the county. initially in disney land but people need to be concerned if they're not protected they should get protected because it is in our community. >> reporter: what's frustrating officials in orange county is most of the cases here involve people who did not get measle shots. >> it's such a serious disease that if you got the vaccination, it protects you, so why aren't
we doing that? >> reporter: it's a question that hangs in the air here like the measles itself. the disease is airborne no hand shake or touching required to spread the disease. >> any confined space with a lot of people have you have somebody infectious and not protected there's a 90% chance you're going to come down with the disease. >> reporter: that makes a theme park a good incubator, lots of people in enclosed spaces. six patients are employees. the disney land department said they called cast mates about the outbreak, offered vaccinations and immunity tests. disneyland added any who may have come in contact with any positive with measles are put on paid leave until their test results come back. one is a student at nearby huntington beach high school. officials report 24 classmates were told to stay home because they were not vaccinated and had close contact with the measles patient.
high anxiety here that has nothing to do with thrill rides and health officials say the tension and outbreak could have been avoided with measle shots. paul vercanaan, cnn, anaheim. >> let's talk more about a vaccination concern. joining me is the former cdc disease detective. how big of a problem is this some are we talking about the number of unvaccinated children that, too, is spreading along with the spread of the measles? >> absolutely pred reka. this anti-vaccine movement has taken hold. as of now about 90% in the u.s. have had their two mmr shots. they're pretty well protected dense the measles virus, but another 10% who are not protected looking at the country as a whole. when you zoom in and look the at statewide numbers or county numbers, you see these real hot spots where many, many people in those communities have not been vaccinated. it makes it so easy for
outbreaks to spread spread if those areas. >> so i understand that this is airborne paul did a great job of explaining how the spread is happening. what confuses me still, is if it has been eliminated in the u.s. the measles according to studies in the year 2000, what is the source of the measles so that those who have been unvaccinated in this country, are then able to get it? i mean is it the belief that someone from overseas a country they don't necessarily vaccinate, may have had measles come to the united states it helps being spread or is there some other way in which measles, you know germinates and can be spread and caught? >>. >> i think one of two ways. it could be it was a foreign traveler in disneyland and then passed the virus to other people or could have been an american not properly vaccinated and traveled overseas to an area and then picked up the measles that way. it's so important to remember that measles is very contagious. if you're not vaccinated and
walk into a room even two hours after someone with measles has walked out of that room nine times out of ten you're going to catch the virus. it's very contagious survives in the air, on surfaces for about two hours and it just spreads like wildfire. we're seeing that now, 68 cases in california but total, 80 cases of measles in this outbreak, california health officials say expect to see more. >> and i imagine as a doctor you're going to use this as a study as to why you believe everybody should be vaccinated. >> it's to important to protect kids. they can get deafness brain swelling and die. it's not a trivial illness. >> thanks so much for joining us appreciate it from dallas. >> thank you. still ahead, have you heard enough of the whole football thing? deflate-gate and the nightmare scenario the nfl might face now, if the patriots beat the seahawks come super bowl sunday.
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sunday. and weather in glendale arizona is supposed to be perfect, no chance of rain. that doesn't mean there won't be a storm of controversy. deflategate is still hovering over the nfl aafter the news of the nfc championship game. here now is rachel nichols. >> yeah well fred after days of speculation, plenty of fodder for the new york headline tabloid writers and an entire nation of people discussing how many pounds per square inch a pressure of football really needs. finally new facts to throw into this equation here courtesy of the nfl. after five days of headlines and controversy, over deflategate, the nfl finally broke its silence, releasing a statement confirming the new england patriots were in fact using underinflated footballs in the first half of their afc championship win over the indianapolis colts.
officials found the balls to be within the rules then. so now the question becomes, how did the heiress cape those footballs? and who, if anyone is responsible? the nfl says it's been investigating that since sunday. speaking with more than 40 people both in and out of patriots' organization. on thursday quarterback tom brady said he had not yet spoken to investigators. but both he and head coach bill belichick insisted they had nothing to do with the under-inflated footballs. >> i didn't alter the ball in any way. to tell you that in my entire coaching career i have never talked to any player staff member about football air pressure. >> i have no knowledge of anything. i have no knowledge of any wrongdoing. >> reporter: but several former players have expressed skepticism. >> those balls were deflated. somebody had to do it. and i don't believe there's an equipment manager in the nfl that would on his own initiative
deflate a ball without the starting quarterback's approval. i just -- i just didn't believe what tom brady had to say. >> it's obvious that tom brady had something to do with this. or the balls had been deflated. that doesn't happen unless the quarterback wants that to happen i can assure you of that. >> reporter: brady also has his defenders, including staunch support in his own locker room. >> tom is a big boy. he knows how to handle all situations so he'll handle this with class, like he always does. for him to be attacked the way he did, trust me we've been attacked plenty of times around here individually and as an organization and as a team. so it's not our first rodeo. >> reporter: patriots' owner, robert kraft, is pledging complete transparency and cooperation with investigators. which include ted wells, the high-profile criminal attorney who last season wrote the nfl's report on the miami dolphins' bullying scandal. the miami investigation took about three months. and wells inclusion here could
be a signal that this too will be a prolonged affair. that's key, since being able to say there's an ongoing investigation will allow the patriots and commissioner roger goodell, to sidestep questions about it in the week leading up to the super bowl. of course that doesn't mean the questions won't keep coming. and one of those questions is what kind of punishment we're talking about if the nfl does in fact find the patriots actively cheated here. now, the minimum the team could be fined is $25,000. but the expectation is that if there is tangible proof, the consequences would be much more significant, more like hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines, confiscated draft picks, possibly even suspensions, especially considering bill belichick and tom brady were so absolute in their news conferences the other day. if the nfl finds out they were lying, the league will certainly put the hammer down. but all of that fred is a pretty big if. to do any of that someone will need to provide evidence this was an intentional effort to cheat the rules.
and so far, no one has surfaced with any. >> all right, rachel nichols, thanks so much. of course what's the hammer that it could potential lay down. the nfl, by the way, says it has already conducted some 40 interviews about the deflated footballs and has hired a firm with forensic expertise to review pertinent electronic and video information. all right. baseball hall-of-famer, ernie banks, has passed away. as the chicago cubs' first african-american player banks became known as the greatest player in franchise history. he was awarded the presidential medal of freedom in 2013. the president and mrs. obama issued this statement saying quote, michelle and i send our condolences to the family of ernie banks and to every chicagoan and baseball fan who loved him somewhere. somewhere the sun is shining, the air is fresh, his team is behind him, and mr. class, mr. cub, is already to play too. ernie banks never played in a
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all right. checking our top stories now. a federal judge has sentenced a colorado teenager to four years in prison for attempting to become an isis bride and wage jihad in the middle east. the judge cited the need to send a harsh message to would-be jihadists jihadists. shannon conley pleaded guilty to giving support to isis but insists she has changed since then and is not a danger to society. u.s. supreme court is set to hear a case that could start a new chapter in the capital punishment debate. it concerns last year's botched execution that left an inmate to die slowly gasping for breath. other inmates sued saying okay
owing's lethal injection protocol amounts to unusual punishment. the first component in the three-stage injection fails to maintain unconsciousness. and the faa is warning airlines to keep passengers from putting electronic cigarettes in checked baggage, due to a potential fire hazard. the agency points to a recent u.n. report citing incidents where e-cigs overheated when the heating element was accidentally activated. in one case the resulting fire in a cargo hold forced the evacuation of a plane. we have so much more straight ahead in the news room and it all starts right now. this is cnn breaking news. >> thanks again for joining me. we begin with this breaking news. one of two japanese hostages held by isis may have been beheaded. a video posted by a known isis
supporter shows a hostage holding a photograph that appears to show a fellow hostage beheaded. isis threatened to execute both men unless a $200 million ransom was paid. now instead of money, isis is apparently demanding jordan the country of jordan release a female suicide bomber. cnn's will ripley has the latest from tokyo now,.now. will what has been the japanese government's reaction if any, at this point? >> they have a very strong reaction fred just within the past 30 minutes or so. the prime minister spoke to reporters after an emergency meeting that was held in the late hours here. it's already 2:00 a.m. in tokyo. and the prime minister still is meeting with his advisers.
he called it an outrageous act of violence. he said he was thinking about family and this is also a very difficult time for the family of kenji moto. in this audio, not verified, there are some analysts skeptical of it for a lot of reasons. it's not the same production quality of an isis video we're used to seeing. there is no isis logo. the voice sounds as if it has been modified in some way. but in the video, the voice claiming to be jenji koto speaks specifically to his wife and mentions their two daughters, including a newborn who was just two weeks old when he left on this trip to syria where he was later captured by isis. so the japanese government as they worked to verify the authenticity we know they are in communication with the jordanian government. in fact the prime minister and king of jordan spoke on the phone several hours ago, which seems to indicate that they have known about this video for quite
some time, and now that it is out, publicly online they are speaking about it even as there is -- are some questions about its authenticity. >> all right, will. let me bring ina jamana here. we're talking about the prisoner swap in exchange for the life of the remaining japanese homg now demanding the release of this prisoner in jordan. what more can you tell us about this prisoner and whether that in any way might be, you know appeased that request appeased. >> well we've tried reaching out to the jordanian government. they say at this point they are not making any official comment about this demand. but she was a would-be suicide bomber who was part of a husband and wife team who carried out -- who attacked a hotel here in jordan.
it was part of a coordinated suicide bombing attack. three hotels here in the capital in 2005. attacked by al qaeda in iraq. four suicide bombers dispatched to these hotels. saj dada rah somehowy saying her explosives vest failed to detonate, and she was sentenced to death in 2006. but jordan for about eight years halted the death sentence here. so she has been on death row. there have been several appeals for that death row. but she has not been executed yet, although jordan has renewed its -- started carrying out the death sentence again back in december. now this fred really puts jordan in a tough position here. it also has its own captive being held by isis jordanian pilot whose jet crashed in
december in isis territory near arubbinga and syria and he is being held there. their official position they would not negotiate or cave into terrorist demands throughout. fred? >> all right, thanks to both of you and keep us posted as you hear any new information. all right. so with the fight now, getting even more fierce in the battle to eliminate the isis terror group, the u.s. may have to send forces closer to the front lines in iraq. so what about that promise from president obama of no american boots on the ground in combat there? here now is cnn's national security correspondent, jim sciutto. >> reporter: this is the front line in the war against isis. kurdish militia battling the terror group on the outskirts of the northern iraqi city of mosul. the pentagon tells cnn, it is now prepared to recommend a small number of u.s. military
advisers join this fight on the front lines, if necessary. accompanying iraqi ground forces when they launch an assault to retake the city this spring. this despite repeated promises by the president that he will not place u.s. troops in combat. white house spokesman josh earnest said mr. obama stands by that pledge. >> he does not believe that it would be in our best interest for a large-scale military deployment to be executed in iraq. that committing more american ground troops in a combat role to iraq is not in our best interest. >> reporter: the u.s. and iraq have markedly different time tables for the assault on mosul. iraqi commanders insist they are ready now. u.s. commanders disagree. a difference that is clearly testing the patience of iraqi
prime minister al abadie. >> everyone has got his own timetable and priorities. this is important that everyone matches the iraqi timetable, rather than their own. >> reporter: the fight against isis also has two different realities on the iraq-syria border. in iraq the terror group has seen its momentum stopped. the pentagon says. but in syria, it is still gaining. >> it hasn't had any effect on isis' growth in syria. we have to think of this as a one-theater operation. not two theaters. one joint theatre. that's how isis sees it. and if they are being hurt in iraq they can move to syria, and vice versa. >> reporter: u.s. commanders in iraq say iraqi forces simply are not ready for an assault on mosul. on a trip to iraq last month, general john terry told us it will be months before iraqi forces are prepared. he added, it will take three years minimum to train iraqi
forces to secure iraq more broadly. jim sciutto, cnn, washington. joining me right now is former u.s. ambassador joe wilson. he is a retired diplomat who was posted in several african countries and iraq. he is now the ceo of his own international consulting firm and joining us from santa fe, new mexico. good to see you, mr. ambassador. >> nice to see you. >> so i asked you to join us because i really wanted to talk to you in large part about yemen and all taking place there. now there are all these other developments that have taken place this morning. and i know you are a wealth of knowledge. if i could ask you first, given your experience in iraq what your reaction is. what are your thoughts about more u.s. personnel being in iraq and while it may be an advisory role because we are talking about ongoing conflict they could be engaged in combat. what are your thoughts or concerns about that particularly as it pertains to mosul? >> well i'd say it's hard for me to see what sort of role we
can play that's going to be constructive. after all, we have trained the iraqi army for a decade and we see the results being the -- really the advance of isis to key areas right around baghdad. i think my sense of this is that this does not lend itself to a military solution right now. the iraqis are going to have to fight for their own independence and their own national territory. we might be able to provide some technical assistance but moving american troops into harm's way on the front seems to me to be counterproductive in many, many different ways. >> and then if i could turn the corner and ask you about saudi arabia as well the president now making plans to attend the funeral of king abdullah and the importance of the ongoing diplomatic relations between the u.s. and saudi arabia. how important is it in stabilizing the region that the
u.s. continue with a good diplomatic relationship with the new king? >> well it's certainly important that we understand the complexity of our relationship with the saudis and i understand that they are major actors in the region and can be of great assistance to us or can thwart a lot of what we are attempting to do. there are a lot of different areas where we can work together. the islamic state being one of them. and there are some areas where we disagree and where we should try and bridge those differences. notably, iran and iran's nuclear negotiations that are ongoing right now. it would be helpful, it seems to me to be a force for some sort of reconciliation between the iranians and is saudis. whether that's possible is anybody's guess. but clearly, the saudis are concerned with having a significant shia population on the east side of the country
where all the oil fields are. and those shias being perhaps influenced by the iranian regime. >> and now let's talk about yemen. you have had experience given your post when in iraq what it is to try to move u.s. personnel when imminent danger is arriving. and making the decision about what u.s. personnel should stay and what should go. and now we know in yemen hundreds of american personnel have been evacuated. but still, many stay in place. i know there's been a 20-year span between when you had to play a part in that decision-making. but what -- what kind of information could you share with us into how do you ascertain the safety of the remaining u.s. personnel, especially in the case of yemen, when yemeni security would be in charge of protecting u.s. personnel there, but now that you have this kind of power vacuum what would be your greatest concern to worries
about who stays in place? >> well 20 years ago when i was in baghdad, with he actually reduced the size of the embassy down to seven essential personnel, at the very end of it. that was obviously a different era. we did not have military programs ongoing in iraq at that time. but we also didn't have any of the security fears that i'm sure they're confronting in sanaa and wherever the military is these days out there in yemen. so for example, 20 years ago, in 1990 i was able to walk through the central market of baghdad without any security whatsoever christmas time two-and-a-half weeks before the gulf war kicked off. i was in sanaa a few years ago, and had a security detail with me when i walked through the city because the tension was so great, and the hostility towards foreigners was sufficient to merit some protection.
now, the situation there in sanaa now, and across yemen is obviously very insecure. we have key interests in play there, military interests. my guess is you could probably get the american embassy itself down to a small number of personnel. the minimum needed to conduct diplomatic relations. getting the military right size under these circumstances is probably more complicated. and it's hard for me to say what they're thinking in that regard. >> all right, mr. ambassador i have more questions including this houthi minority. i know you expressed it would be interesting if they would end up being able to overthrow this government and now we see that the president has stepped down and when we come back i want to ask you more about the fascination with the minority group being able to do this in that country. we'll have much more straight ahead, in the "newsroom." [container door opening] ♪
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welcome back. in yemen, the president has stepped down under pressure from the minority there. this is a critical time particularly with the u.s. engagement in yemen in its counterterrorism efforts, as it will -- the u.s. pledge is to continue to use u.s. drones in its attack of isis operatives. let's continue our conversation with former u.s. ambassador joe wilson retired diplomat who spent a lot of time in africa in yemen, in saudi arabia in
that entire region. all right, so ambassador let me ask you now, the u.s. says it will continue its counterterrorism measures using drones to take out any isis operatives there in yemen. but at the same time doesn't there have to continue with some sort of diplomacy there. so now our u.s. diplomats that remain in that country, are they having to develop a relationship with the houthis there, which have already pledged their allegiance to iran, not the u.s.? >> well i think there's a lot going on right now that we don't see. the fact that we retain a presence in sanaa suggests there are -- there is room for diplomacy. and in addition to whatever violence you're seeing on the streets, it does seem to me that there is an awful lot of politicking going on. there are a lot of fault lines in yemeni society. not just sectarian or confessional. but also generational also
educational, also rural and urban. and they have played a delicate game of political balancing for thousands of years. so it should not be a surprise to anybody that what you see on the surface may not accurately reflect what's going on behind the scenes. the fact that the president, the prime minister resigned nobody has stepped in to take their place yet. so it seems to me there is likely a lot of negotiations within the internal yemeni political system that are taking place right now, as well. >> and then -- >> we could play a positive role in that. >> according to today's "washington post," apparently the u.s. is open to talking to houthi leaders. but is that i guess, conceivable, given that the houthi leaders have made it very clear that they're not very pro western. not very pro u.s. a delicate way of putting it. >> well, yes. and -- but they haven't named a
president yet so it's not clear from the reporting that i've seen that in fact they are going to succeed in taking over the government or rather if they're objectives are more limited into insuring they have greater participation in a future government. that i don't think is clear in the reporting that i've seen so far. and, again, i would point out that i think this plays out in a bunch of different levels within the yemeni political and tribal system such that it may be. >> all right. former u.s. ambassador joe wilson we appreciate your time. thank you so much for being with us today from santa fe, new mexico mexico. >> thanks fredricka. coming up it's a movie about two families fighting for the same little girl and how they see things differently. next i go face-to-face with kevin kosner and anthony macke from the movie "black or white." we'll talk about the film and
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e- e- e- e-cigs overheated and forced the evacuation of a plane. it's an issue that has been in the forefront recently. and driving a lot of conversations around the dinner table and workplaces. much of black and white america just see things differently. the new film "black or white" helps underscore that in this story of a grandfather played by kevin costner in the middle of a custody battle. his biracial granddaughter is caught in the middle. >> the last person i need around me right now is grandma wee wee. >> that's right. >> got to plan for eloise in light of this? >> you can always come for a swim. >> hey, guys! >> i'm thinking you need to stop talking about shared custody. >> not going to happen. >> she has a father! >> you're in a blind spot when it comes to your son. he's a junky.
>> and you're a drunk! >> okay thank you. >> run on home to your bathtub with whiskey and just soak in it. have yourself an old drunk man's bubble bath. got it! >> good! >> octavia spencer among the great actors in this film. i talked face-to-face with actors kevin costner and anthony mackie. >> what is the conversation that you hope will happen? >> i don't know what i hope happens. you know that idea is bigger than me. as an actor or something, i go this is authentic. this feels like where we're at. this is not pulling punches, it's not politically correct. i think conversation will roll after it. you know. you know i'm not in the message business. that's not why i made the movie. i just felt that it reflects -- i make movies about baseball westerns romantic comedies. sometimes you get to make a movie about something that you feel like you're living. and right now black or white feels like a movie that is for its time. but i think the way it was made
i think it will live -- it has a chance to be a classic. >> and anthony, what is it about this movie that really caught your attention? i know scripts are coming your way all of the time. but there was something about this one that resonateded with you. >> it was two specific moments. there's one moment in my law office where i'm talking to octavia spencer's son, who is my nephew. and i tell him -- i give him the business. i let him know what he's doing to affect me and my life. and what he's doing to affect us as a whole. and then kevin has this line later on in the film that really just blew my mind. and he says "it's not your first thought that makes you a racist. it's just second your third and your fourth." and when i read that it really affected me. and it was really something i wanted to be a part. >> there were a lot of touching moments in the movie, as well. and this little girl jillian estelle, is amazing. and just that moment between she and grandpa. let's play that moment because i think that was kind of the realization that you had, that
eloise and you have a particular connection. >> who are you? >> i ask a name and the light reveals a mermaid. no five mermaids all with green and orange swishing tails. the tops they're wearing look familiar but i can't figure out from where. what? >> i love you, papa. >> the sister the one in the middle says she has short, butter-colored hair and she is wearing a white -- >> are you okay papa? >> i'm good. it's just a really sad story. >> it's not sad. it's about a mermaid that takes her family on a vacation. >> no i -- i know.
it just reminds me of another story. a sad one. >> that's an instinctive moment. and then you say that the acting there, everything that was brought, was instinctive. >> yeah that was an electric moment, that little girl. a lot of times, you know movie -- what a child is going to do. and we both needed for her to be great. and for this movie to become a whole movie. and she doesn't disappoint. and you know sometimes little people know what big people need at a moment without -- they just intuitively know and that point where she reaches up and hugs and even if you see the thing in its entirety you see she kisses him. it wasn't scripted. she did that. and this movie, what i love about it it's filled with things like that. there is magic in this movie. >> which is what makes it really universal. even though the title implies that really is about race black
or white, making a choice. it's much bigger than that isn't it? >> yeah it's way beyond that. and i think the one thing that i really enjoy about this movie every time i see it is you get to hear both perspectives. and you get to see two people listen to the other person come together and figure out a fair compromise. and i think that's something we should be doing today. you know it's really sad what's going on in our country. i think we're at the height of race relations since -- we're at the highest point in race relations now since civil rights. and i think a lot of communication needs to be had. back then we were very fortunate, because we had the likes of martin luther king and all of the civil rights leaders. now we don't really have those people to step up and have those conversations for us. and vocalize our thoughts. but, you know this movie is really wonderful because it gives you a place to start a conversation. you know i truly believe if you have someone that is the opposite of you, that doesn't look like you, you tell them to go see this movie so that you
can start that conversation there, and then roll into other issues and topics. >> all right. more powerful words of face-to-face with kevin costner and an thoek macke at 2:00 today. they have provocative views about diversity in movies today, and they weigh in as well on the nfl's new england patriots' deflategate, reluctantly. the movie "black or white" comes out in theaters next friday. the u.s. government is responding to developments in the possible killing of a japanese hostage. cnn's erin mcpike is at the white house for us. >> reporter: fred the national security council is still trying to confirm the authenticity of this new isis video. more on that after the break. why do we do it? why do we spend every waking moment, thinking about people? why are we so committed to keeping you connected? why combine performance with efficiency? why innovate for a future without accidents?
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i'm fredricka whitfield. breaking news we're following this morning. it appears that one of two japanese hostages was beheaded. in a new video posted by a known isis supporter, hostage kenji goto is holding a photograph that appears to show fellow hostage, haruna yukawa beheaded. this is the image seen on the right here and his fellow hostage, released by isis more than a week ago. japan's defense minister says the government is checking to see whether the man really is haruna yukawa meaning in the newest video that we're not showing to you. isis threatened to execute both men unless a $200 million ransom was paid. now instead of money, isis is apparently demanding a female suicide bomber who is being held in jordan be released. she was convicted of bombing a hotel in jordan in 2005 can killing 57 people. our kimberly dozier said isis
learned from the "charlie hebdo" massacre in paris, and is aiming its efforts now at the media. >> reporter: all along what you have seen behind the scenes is this planning by isis to find a way to stay in the media's eye. i mean they've had the japanese hostages for a while, but they strategically released that video and those demands. you notice right after al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, was getting all the attention for the "charlie hebdo" massacre. so now we see them changing midstream in terms of their demands. but one thing that could indicate perhaps they have been weakened is the change in the media content. the way they have delivered this message. >> the japanese government has released a statement condemning yukawa's murder. here in the united states the national security council is responding to this breaking news. cnn's erin mcpike is at the white house this morning. erin what's being said? >> reporter: fred we just got
in this statement from the national security council, deputy spokesperson. he says we have seen the video reporting to show huharuna yukawa beheaded. we are working to confirm the authenticity. the united states strongly condemns isil's actions. the united states is fully supportive of japan in this matter and we stand in solidarity with japan and are coordinating closely. we have seen other news about isis in the past week. we heard from the defense department several days ago they're now saying that coalition air strikes and other efforts have killed some 6,000 isis leaders and isis targets. we're still looking to confirm some of those numbers. but there has been a big development. of course that has not stopped these gruesome executions fred. >> and even with this news erin the white house is also confirming the president will be planning to go to saudi arabia for the funeral of king
abdullah. what more can you tell us about that? >> reporter: well fred we did get a statement from white house press secretary josh earnest, overnight. i'm going to read part of that to you. a lot of verbal gymnastics in how they announced this. it was such a late-breaking development. as the president and vice president's travel schedules became clear, we determined the window of the vice president would be on the ground from the departure from india. the president will be able to depart india following his speech on tuesday to stop during the return trip to meet with king solomon and offer his condolences on behalf of the american people. we have seen in the last few hours some reports in india media that indian security couldn't necessarily support the needs of the american president and secret service. that's not something we would get confirmed by the white house. they typically do not like to divulging their security needs. but we should also note that two weeks ago, president obama and vice president biden didn't go
to paris for that massive rally, and the white house came under a lot of scrutiny] for that. that could have weighed into this last-minute decision. also as we have been talking about all morning, saudi arabia is a major ally of the united states in the middle east. they of course have been instrumental in the fight against isis in joining air strikes, and also hosting coalition efforts to train syrian opposition fighters in the ground war against isis. so this of course is an important meeting for president obama, fred. >> all right. erin mcpike at the white house. thanks so much. and we'll be right back.
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>> reporter: it's a bright clear morning in april 2013. inside that red car, just ahead, are these two men, bart davis and john newmerginski professional poker players. on this dash cam, you can see the red car flashing a turn signal to pass a black suv. a few minutes later, an iowa state trooper pulls them over. and what did he say? >> he said i didn't use my blinker. and he was going to write me a citation it would only take a minute and to come with him and get in his car. >> reporter: it was the beginning of an encounter with what eventually would be two iowa state troopers. professional poker players often travel with quite a bit of money which they use in tournaments across the country. the troopers pulled this battered briefcase out of the trunk and found $85,000 in cash belonging to bart davis. and another $15,000 belonging to newmerginski and the officers took it. took it all. >> this was the briefcase i was
carrying. it was locked. they threatened to destroy it if i didn't give them the combination. >> reporter: so you carried money in this all of the time for poker. >> i do. i brought it along, because i happen to have -- >> reporter: this is how normal it is. >> it's money. i got that from the bank? >> reporter: so how much is this? >> that's $10,000. if i were traveling internature, i would seal it. >> reporter: the two were given a traffic warning, but not a citation. newmerginski pled guilty to possession of marijuana paraphernalia, which he said was used for medical marijuana. troopers took the $100,000. seized the authorities said as part of what the troopers called an interdiction, because they claim to believe the money was being used to buy drugs. it's called civil asset forfeiture. and that wasn't all. >> based on their belief they thought my clients were involved in drug activity called california where they live informed the officers there, or
law enforcement officials there that they believe they were involved in drug activity a search warrant wag obtained on the basis of that and raided their homes in california. okay? and tore their homes apart looking for things related to drugs. >> reporter: even though there was only one misdemeanor drug charge in iowa california authorities claim they were distributing drugs there. the men's lawyer, glen downy, says newmergin ski was indicted and both men were offered a deal by the state of iowa. we'll give you back $90,000, as long as you let us keep the rest. the men took the deal afraid they would lose all their money if they didn't. the state of iowa kept $10,000. and the felony charge in california was dropped. as shady as the whole affair sounds it wasn't a one-off. it's part of a concerted effort by some law enforcement to legally target and keep your money without ever filing charges. in fact the two iowa state troopers as well as thousands of other state and local cops
nationwide learned how to conduct these kinds of stops from private companies. and the biggest one is an oklahoma company called desert snow. >> the desert snow trainers travel all over the country to hold their workshops. and business is brisk. according to the company's website, 30 seminars are scheduled for 2015. from oregon to florida, from delaware to california. and your police department could be one of desert snow's clients. this is the man in charge of desert snow. a former california state highway patrol officer named joe david. he wouldn't talk with cnn on camera. but a glance at what his company charges police agencies shows his training isn't cheap. the lowest price for a police force to attend according to this price list is a bit over $8,000 and the top end, $145,000. >> why would a police department spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to go to a seminar which is something you learn in the police academy? >> well they say they teach them more than they'll learn in the police academy. that they have specialized
knowledge to teach these officers how to do it even better. i believe the training encourages them to take more cash because the more cash they take, the more cash joe david is going to get in training materials. >> reporter: joe david told us he couldn't answer written questions about how much money he's made because of a lawsuit filed by downy on behalf of those poker players. he claims it's only a small part of his business which also helps officers go after people ranging from terrorists to kidnappers. as for cash seizures he said quote, the purpose is not to take and seize funds belonging to innocent people. the purpose is to seize funds when they are tied to criminal activity. but there have never been any charges that the money taken from bart davis or john newmerginski has been tied to criminal activity. what has this done to your life? >> it's made me aware of things i was unaware of and made me angry. it's not only this type of conduct we're having problems with police these days.
and how can you not be angry, and saddened? >> reporter: the men still want the rest of their money back. that $10,000 kept by the state of iowa. so far, though iowa is not giving it back. and is not backing down. gary tuchman, cnn. >> and now the u.s. justice department quietly announced the federal government will no longer take part in these kinds of seizures. but that doesn't mean that state and local governments will end this practice. so let's bring in our legal guys avery freeman, civil rights attorney and law professor, joining us from cleveland. and richard herman defense attorney and law professor joining us from las vegas. good to see you guys. avery, you first. why is this legal? >> well there was a policy established under the reagan administration, fredricka, that created a cooperation between the federal government and state government law enforcement. when you hear about joint task force, for example. it involves terrorism, it involves child pornography, and conceptually it's great. but it has been abused it has
occurred since the 1980s over 55,000 times. there's legislation pending in both the house and senate to change the standards. in this kind of thing, legal analysis requires not a butcher knife, but a surgical knife, so that you change the standards. let it work, cooperation between the federal, state, local government continue joint task force, keep the program operating, get rid of the abuses. >> well i think if it's a program like this civil asset forfeiture or interdiction you know richard, i think most people would probably understand if there is probable cause if someone has carried out some major violation, and then oh by the way, when being questioned or when their vehicle is being searched something like this you know comes about. but it sounds as though from the looks of gary's story, that there's almost like a profile. these police officers knew who to pursue and knew there was going to be this bounty and were looking for a reason in which to
seize it. i mean, did i get that wrong, or is that what we're seeing? >> yeah that's right. >> oh no fred you hit it right on the head. the beatles and temptations sang songs about money, money, money. let me tell you something, this is all about money. a billion dollars they got last year i think -- >> more. >> it's outrageous fredricka. here it is. if they get a warrant to go into a house, because they suspect drug activity and they walk in and there's vials and drugs all over the place and a stack of cash on the table, they take that cash. they forfeit that cash. it's obviously proceeds from criminal activity. and that's what the statute was mentality for. >> because then it kind of becomes evidence. but in this case you hear these young men who say, okay well there was the marijuana possession charge. you hear them say -- >> no. >> there was a bargaining like they got all their money back except for $10,000 and so the police department got to keep that? i don't understand that. >> i don't know how they did this fred. fred they got pulled over on a signal. a traffic signal. they went into his trunk, opened
up a locked bag from the trunk. this is unbelievable! i don't know how this happened here. the only way i think to stop this is to allow, like triple damages. if you believe they were wrongfully -- your money was wrongfully seized you should be able to sue and if you recover, triple damages, because the abuse is outrageous. no determination of guilt. no determination you're involved in criminal activity. and your money is seized. and you have to petition to get it back. >> no. >> and if you don't do so in a certain period of time, you waive it. >> and it seems like a lot of people see it that way. avery, what are you disagree with? why is it that this is justified? >> yeah what are you disagreeing with? i handle these cases. >> it's not justified. it needs reformation. you can bring suit under the 14th amendment to recover. the reason that you need a law by congress because it is not a statute. it is a policy by department of justice that requires congressional action to stop it. you want to have triple damages, as he suggested, okay pass a
law by congress. you've got john connier in the house, a democrat. you've got jim sense brenner, a republican. you need to pass legislation. in the absence of that you can do something. but a constitutional case is what you have to bring in order to recover this. >> interesting. so unless there is a law, it seems as though -- and if this is the right terminology, it almost looks like this is outright theft. >> well i agree with that. you're right. >> unless there is a law that says no police -- or law enforcement officers, you're not allowed to do this. >> higher standards, fredricka. that's what this statute will require. >> fred if your money is seized there is a short window for you to petition to get it back. if you don't do it you waive it. and if you do bring that petition you risk opening pandora's box, the contrary statement you may have made to law enforcement. >> so like those two gentlemen. they said they were kind of afraid of what would happen next so they said already, fine $10,000, we'll let it go.
i know we could go on forever. something tells me where you are, richard, in nevada maybe this would be you know practiced more than others. i don't have the stats on that. but if we're talking about -- gamble -- >> people gamble a little more in nevada. >> there are cases, the moro case and other ones. >> recently a case in reno. >> all right, gentlemen, thank you so much. always fiery. that's why we like having you. richard, thank you so much. avery, thank you so much. >> take care. we'll be right back after this.
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welcome back. checking our top stories. a federal judge has sentenced a colorado teenager to four years in prison for attempting to become an isis bride and wage jihad in the middle east. the judge cited the need to send a harsh message to would-be jihadist. shannon conley pleaded guilty to attempting to give support to isis but insists she has changed since then and isn't a danger to society. and bad weather has temporarily halted an attempt to recover the fuselage of airasia flight 8501. divers tried lifting the
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isis supporter, hostage kenji goto is holding a photograph that appears to show fellow hostage, harr ranna yukawa beheaded. you see yukawa on the right and his fellow hostage released by isis more than a week ago. now instead of a $200 million ransom isis is apparently demanding the release of a female suicide bomber seen here. she confessed to her participation in the 2005 terror attacks in amman, jordan location that killed 38 people at a hotel there, and was sentenced to death. our will ripley has the latest now from tokyo. so what is the japanese government saying about this that maybe one has been killed one of the japanese hostages? >> reporter: yeah you know before we get to the reaction fred we just need to reiterate, they have not -- we have not been able to verify the
authenticity of this video, because there are some real differences between the video that we're looking at this new video by the isis supporter and other videos we have seen in the past from isis. so a lot of intelligence analysts here in japan and around the world are studying this to determine if it is authentic. nonetheless, the prime minister some of his top government officials, are responding. and we're hearing them say, fred almost identical statements. i'm going to read to you what the japanese chief cabinet spokesman said. he said quote, this is unforgivable outrageous violence and we strongly condemn this. we demand not to harm and release mr. goto immediately. that was almost verbatim what the prime minister shinzo abe said when he spoke to reporters within the last hour and a half or so. we know that there were emergency meetings held where, again, the japanese government said they are having their experts study this video. but here's the bottom line. we do know that kenji goto and
haruna yukawa were held by isis. but the question is there's been some questions about are these videos doctored what is actually really going on? that's what's still being -- what temporary trying to figure out right now, and trying to figure out if this photo, this gruesome photo, that was posted online then quickly taken down is indeed the decapitated body of yukawa which, of course would be a devastating blow for his family. and at the same time for goto's family including his wife who has two daughters at home including a newborn baby this has got to be such a difficult time for her to have purportedly the surprise of her husband speaking directly to her, saying there is still hope. he said to her, i could be a dead man, but if japan is able to secure this release, they'll let me go. me for her. just excruciating ordeal all the
way around fred. >> and then will -- that's the response from rinko. but are there other responses coming from other family members about what's being reported? >> reporter: family members have been pretty closely protected. and so we heard from for example, kenji goto's mother a couple days ago where she gave a statement, pleading with isis directly to spare her son's life. we have not heard any reaction yet from family members here in japan. but keep in mind that as all of this was breaking it was -- it's getting to be -- it's now 3:00 a.m. here. and the news coverage has stopped for the night. but we do expect that perhaps tomorrow morning or in the coming hours, we will start to hear more response, not only from family but a lot of friends. goto very well connected in the tokyo journalism world, and he has really dominated the news coverage. there's a lot of footage, a lot
of people have come out and praised him for very sensitive and compassionate reporting of the plight of women and children in war zones. and this -- the fact that if indeed this video is authentic and isis has decided to keep him alive, it shows they consider him more valuable alive, and they feel they can leverage him to pressure the japanese government to talk to jordan and try to get something they want desperately, which is the release of this convicted attempted suicide bomber. >> all right. will ripley thank you so much. keep us posted. we're going to talk more about this. what about the dynamic, the relationship or even dialogue between isis and japan, and now jordan? i'm joined by a counterterrorism official in memphis. so help us understand phil. would this new dynamic that isis is now demanding a prisoner swap involving someone who is being held a convicted terrorist in jordan and now might there be a
different kind of dialogue that japan and jordan could engage in to win the release of this -- what we believe to be the remaining japanese hostage? >> i think it's possible but unlikely. we all knew that $200 million was not a serious conversation. that was an effort by isis -- it was not. that was an effort by isis to use the two hostages as a ploy to gain an international platform where they were the focus of attention over days. and that's exactly what happened. now they have extended the amount of time that they can stay on the world stage by executing one individual first, and keeping the second one in reserve. i do believe that there's a potential for a serious conversation in contrast to the $200 million. a serious conversation about a prisoner exchange. >> why is that more likely? >> well first of all, nobody is going to pay $200 million. in my world in serving at the
cia for 25 years dealing with foreign governments, you pay a couple million, $5 million, there are serious conversations about paying for prisoners that others the europeans, for example, had paid for in places like africa. $200 million is simply a way for isis to gain attention. they themselves would know that's not a serious number. >> so then given that in your view isis knew or wanted to be able to continue making headlines, and if indeed this execution has happened because, again, cnn has not been able to authenticate nor is the white house able to authenticate this video, and the video message, but it is reasonable to think that isis wants to continue to make headlines, but would be willing -- i mean would it indeed be willing to release a remaining japanese hostage, even if they were to win the release of a prisoner? why should anybody -- >> in my judgment this is not a judgment about what we should do. let me give you a judgment as a
practitioner. if someone agreed to do this in jordan and tokyo, i believe isis would make the release, would make the exchange. we've got to look at the world through the eyes of the adversary. i've lived in the middle east. women hold the revered place in the home. they're not seen as pawns that you can put on a battlefield. this woman was involved in a failed suicide attack in 2005. her husband died. remember looking at the world through the eyes of the adversary, isis is trying to portray themselves as the protector for a woman who has been incarcerated for ten years. i'm not saying that's right or wrong. i'm saying that's what they're trying to do in this case. and let's not judge this from a western optic. >> and is this latest example, while she's been serving time for some -- for some time now, and we're talking about this woman, and she was married to a terrorist. it only makes you start thinking about the "charlie hebdo" case now. and talking about the relationship of hayat
boumeddiene, in syria. are we starting to look at how isis is recruiting people or able to use partners, whether it be husband and wife whether we see brothers. there is this case in now spain involving two sets of brothers. what does this tell you about the type of recruitment of isis and how they are using these relationships, i guess, to build, you know a better team to execute terrorist attacks. >> this is a really fascinating story. let me give you a quick picture of the evolution of the al qaeda threat from the 9/11 hijackers to paris and this woman out of jordan ten years ago. the guys i faced at cia in '02 and beyond they would not have considered using a woman for an operation. it never came up with the core al qaeda. they would have seen that as completely inappropriate. as this al qaeda revolution has gone out further afield into places like europe i think you're seeing more women involved. one of the reasons is really interesting. >> what? >> when i saw cells develop in europe and the united states
the partnership within those cells wasn't necessarily ideological. in other words, not everybody in a cell would really believe in the al qaeda message initially. it was emotional. a brother recruiting a brother. an older sort of father figure recruiting somebody else in the community. a man recruiting his girlfriend which he saw in paris. so this emotional element is significant in the evolution of al qaeda. >> you expect there's going to be more of that? because maybe it's been carried out for a long time. but why is it -- at least in the public view it seems we're just kind of getting hip to this is a tactic. >> i think because we're transitioning from a core al qaeda group that was very -- from their perspective, i'd logically pure. their message was, we want to stage a global revolution. there's a small group of several hundred people in afghanistan led by bin laden, who shared this ideology. as you see the ripple effect of the ideology go into places like the united states canada western europe the ideology loses some of its purity.
and people start to say, well now i'm a member of al qaeda, but i think it's appropriate to have a woman or a girlfriend participate. the revolution gets broader, more people participate, but it loses some of its purity because the people who are joining, like the lady who joined in paris, don't have the same ideological purity as the originators of al qaeda and afghanistan did 20 years ago. >> yeah. all right. thank you so much phil mudd. >> thank you. >> we know you talk primarily about the japanese hostage situation, but that predict has certainly opened up now a whole another scope on the pairings of alleged terrorists and how they're carrying out their attacks with these kinds of tight relationships, brothers husband, wives. thanks so much for making the shift with me like that. appreciate it. >> thank you. coming up next arrest in spain. more on that over this alleged terror cell. we'll have the newest developments in that investigation, right after this. i know... this third shift is rough... it's just a few more weeks
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we're following new developments out of spain on the terror front. police have arrested four men they believe may have been plotting a terror attack similar to the one carried out at the "charlie hebdo" magazine office in paris. police say the men are a pair of brothers who had psychological, physical and weapons training. cnn's al goodman is in madrid. al we understand that police have identified a second location that may have been
connected with this possible cell? explain. >> reporter: hi fredricka. first, the big difference here with these arrests compared to dozens of arrests of suspected islamic militants last year in spain for allegedly recruiting and trying to send combatants to fight in iraq and syria along side isis for example, these four were allegedly ready to carry out an attack. now, the interior minister of spain thought these were significant enough to comment on. let's listen. >> translator: what is especially note worthy are the many parallels with the attacks in paris carried out against the "charlie hebdo" magazine. they are two pairs of brothers strongly radicalized, with a lot of military physical and mental training and willing to carry out an attack. and, according to the police to blow themselves up while trying that. >> reporter: fredricka, these happened in the spanish territory of silta.
there is another similar territory, small cities 85,000 people each. but they have significant muslim populations, and the police have considered them sort of as a front line on -- in the fight against terrorism, because to get from those places up to the main land of spain is just a ferry ride. and then from madrid or spain up to france and the rest of europe. so there is a lot of attention on those areas right now by the authorities. fredricka? >> all right. al goodman, thank you so much from madrid. in the battle against isis in iraq u.s. advisers are being dragged even closer to the fighting. in a moment i'll ask a former senior diplomat in iraq what he thinks about more engagement by american advisers. and the u.s. is reacting to the breaking news of a japanese hostage held by isis, who appears in an image, a video, to have been beheaded. erin mcpike is at the white house for us. >> reporter: fred the u.s. says it's working closely with japan on this. more on those efforts after the break.
in the united states the national security council is responding to reports of an image that appears to show the beheading of one of the japanese hostages held by isis. cnn's erin mcpike is at the white house for us today. what's the white house position on this? >> fred we did get in a statement from the national security council a short time
ago, this is from the deputy spokesman. i will read part of that statement to you. he says we have seen the video purporting to show that japanese citizen haruna yukawa has been murdered by the terrorist group isil. the intelligence community is working to confirm its authenticity. the united states strongly condemns isil's actions and we call for the immediate release of all of the remaining hostages. the united states is fully supportive of japan in matter. we stabbed in solidarity with japan and are coordinating closely. will ripley has been reporting, this is dominating the japanese media and hasn't yet, because the white house, as it has said is still trying to confirm the authenticity of this video. >> and then of course even despite given this the president does have plans to leave india and pay his respects to the saudi arabian king at his funeral, right? >> reporter: fred he does. and president obama took off for india this morning. this is a very important trip to india that he is making. he is the first american president who will be visiting i
believed india while in office twice. what he is skipping is a symbolic visit to the taj mahal supposed to take place tuesday. we have seen some reports in indian media today that perhaps the reason that he is not going to be making that visit is because indian security couldn't necessarily support the needs of the secret service in protecting the american president. we can't confirm that. that's not necessarily something that the white house or secret service would confirm. but he is going to be going to saudi arabia as the white house has explained. it's because they saw in this schedule opening that vice president biden would be arriving in saudi arabia around the time that president obama would be leaving india. and so instead president obama can just go. but this of course comes on the heels of the white house coming under a lot of scrutiny in the last two weeks for not sending president obama or vice president biden or secretary of state john kerry to paris for that massive rally after the "charlie hebdo" attacks. i would point out that john kerry did not go to paris,
because he was going to india. he couldn't stop from going to india and the white house said that was a very important commitment for john kerry. but, of course saudi arabia has been a very important ally of the united states. there has been a bit of a frayed relationship in the last few years, and so this may be a chance for president obama to reset that relationship with saudi arabia fred. >> all right. erin mcpike at the white house, thanks so much. all right. also still ahead, let's talk presidential politics. yes, it's back. the who's who in iowa today. potential republican presidential candidates trying to get a leg up in what is expected to be a crowded race for the presidency of 2016. we'll go live to the iowa freedom summit, next.
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international consulting firm. and i asked him for his thoughts on the role of advisers in iraq, and in particular for the battle in the city of mosul. >> well i'd say it's hard for me to see what sort of role we can play that's going to be constructive. after all, we have trained the iraqi army for a decade and we see the results being the -- really the advance of isis to key areas right around baghdad. i think my sense of this is that the -- this does not lend itself to a military solution right now. the iraquis are going to have to fight for their own independence and their own national territory. we might be able to provide some technical assistance but moving american troops into harm's way seems to be counterproductive in many, many ways. >> and then if i could turn the corner and ask about saudi arabia as well. the president now making plans to attend the funeral of king
abdullah. and the importance of the ongoing diplomatic relationship between the u.s. and saudi arabia. how important is it in stabilizing the region that the u.s. continue with a good diplomatic relationship with the new king? >> well it's certainly important that we understand and the complexity of our relationship with the saudis and understand they are major actors in the region and can be of great assistance to us or can can thwart a lot of what we're attempting to do. there are a lot of different areas where we can work together. the islamic state being one of them. and there's some areas where we disagree and where we should try and bridge those differences. notably, iran and iran's nuclear negotiations that are ongoing right now. it would be helpful, it seems to me to be a force for some sort
of reconciliation between the iranians and saudis whether that's possible is anybody's guess. clearly, the saudis are concerned with having a significant shia population on the east side of the country where all of the oil fields are, and those shias being perhaps influenced by the iranian regime. >> and now let's talk about yemen. you have had experience given your post when in iraq what it is to try to move u.s. personnel when in imminent danger. and making the decision about what u.s. personnel should stay and what should go. and now we know in yemen hundreds of american personnel have been evacuated but still many stay in place. i know there has been a 20-year span between when you had to play a part in that decisionmaking. but what kind of information could you share with us into how do you ascertain the safety of
the remaining u.s. personnel, especially in the case of yemen, when yemeni security would be in charge of protecting u.s. personnel there, but now that you have this kind of power vacuum what would be your greatest concern to worries about who stays in place? >> well, 20 years ago, when i was in baghdad, we actually reduced the size of the embassy down to seven essential personnel, at the very end of it. that was obviously a different era. we did not have military programs ongoing in iraq at that time. but we also didn't have any of the security fears that i'm sure they're confronting in sanaa and wherever the military is these days out there in yemen. so for example, 20 years ago, in 1990 i was able to walk through the central market of baghdad without any security whatsoever at christmas thymeime, two-and-a-half weeks before the gulf war kicked off. i was in sanaa a few years ago,
and had a security detail with me when i walked through the city because the tension was so great, and the hostility towards foreigners was sufficient to merit some protection. now, the situation there in sanaa now, and across yemen, is obviously very insecure. we have key interests in play there, military interests. my guess is you could probably get the american embassy itself down to a small number of personnel. the minimum needed to conduct diplomatic relations. getting the military right size under these circumstances is probably a little bit more complicated. and it's hard for me to say what they're thinking in that regard. >> all right. that was former ambassador joe wilson on yemen, saudi arabia as well as iraq. all right. back in this country, presidential election day is -- who is counting? 654 days away. someone out there is counting.
but if you are in iowa today, it probably feels like election day is next tuesday. that's because right now a who's who of conservative republicans are speaking at the iowa freedom summit in des moines. live pictures right now. more than ten potential presidential candidates are taking the stage today. and cnn's political team is right there in the middle of it all. including political director david chalian and peter han hamby. so david, you first, who is there, and how important is it that they are there? >> well you've got a slew of candidates maybe nine potential presidential candidates addressing this
group of 1,200 conservative activists here today. but it may be important to take a look at who is not here. because donald trump, who is -- says he's considering a run for the white house, made sure when he took the stage here to sort of throw an elbow at those not
here specifically the heavyweight establishment folks, jeb bush and mitt romney. give a listen. >> so you can't have romney. he choked. you can't have bush. the last thing we need is another bush. >> the seriousness of a donald trump candidacy, the crowd here peter, really liked his digs at romney and bush. >> yeah they totally ate it up which plays right into what we have been talking about for many months which is that iowa is going to be tough for mitt romney if he runs, and jeb bush if he runs. because there is such a vocal conservative electorate here. that doesn't mean there isn't space for those guys. remember mitt romney almost won iowa with about 30% of the caucus vote. but again, this is the conservative action in the republican party. the establishment action was actually last night in san francisco, where jeb bush was speaking to an auto dealer convention. and he actually talked about
that meeting, that intriguing meeting he had with mitt romney in salt lake city a few days ago. this is what he said about that. >> i went to visit governor romney. i have enormous respect for him. the meeting was set up three months ago, under slightly different circumstances, i guess. and i was happy to be able to you know continue to have the meeting. we talked about the patriots. we talked a little bit about politics. not as much as you might imagine. we talked about the future of the country. talked about a need for a more engaged foreign policy where the united states accepts world power status because it brings peace and stability in the world. >> so if you talk to people in bush and romney world about this meeting that happened the other night, there isn't any sort of grand bargain that emerged. these guys weren't there to like make a deal about who someone is going to run and someone is not going to run for
the republican nomination. both of them though seemed to be full steam ahead. so we just have to wait and see for when jeb bush is actually going to dip his toes in the water, come out here to iowa and talk to these folks, if they'll have him. right now he's focused on fund-raising. >> okay. so maybe no bargaining no drawing of straws. but potentially were they chatting because they could be talking about a teaming up, kind of testing the waters? could they make a good team together romney and bush? whoever wants to take a stab at that. >> i don't think we're going to see them. i don't think we're going to see them on a ticket together down the road. but i do think their absence here actually creates a moment
for chris christie. he is also sort of filling that establishment in the party. this is not his normal crowd that he would normally feel at home with. and watching to see how chris christie is received here is going to be one of the key moments. >> okay. we'll be watching. you guys let us know what you know the reception is like. you know, when chris christie
steals the stage and if he will be appealing to those conservatives, because mostly kind of appeals mostly to moderates. but david chalian and peter hamby, let us know. keep us in the room with you. thanks so much. all right. still to come the nfl says football football footballs were indeed under inflated. now the league wants to know was it deliberate cheating. sara ganham is live in foxborough. >> that's right. the nfl breaking its silence on the so-called deflategate controversy. what players are saying in the locker room coming up. [container door opening] ♪ what makes it an suv is what you can get into it. ♪ [container door closing] what makes it an nx is what you can get out of it.
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indianapolis colts last sunday. here's what we don't know. why were the first half footballs deflated? and was it a deliberate act by the patriots? joining me right now from the patriots' facility in foxborough massachusetts is sara ganham. cold and blustery weather there. the players, are they feeling the chill too? >> reporter: yeah fred. a little bit. of course they're inside nice and warm. they say they're not going to be distracted by this. that's the bottom line. they say this is something they're not talking about with their coaches, not even talking about it with fellow players. they are focused on the game. that's what they're telling us. take a listen to what they said a little earlier. >> at the end of the day, we can't control any allegations or whatever all we can do is go out and play ball. so regardless our goal is to go out and win. >> just like any other week here we've just got to stay focused and stay with our game
plan and just be ready to go on sunday. >> reporter: fred some of the players even told us that their coaches -- they commended their coaches, really and the staff of the patriots for keeping the focus on the game on sunday for bringing them back around. you know this is a team that has dealt with controversy before. and they say they know how to deal with it they know how to stay focused. and none of them seem concerned at all either about the preparation for sunday's game or the possibility from there may be more bad news for them before sunday's game. >> wow. so the patriots you know kind of have a reputation. one of them being they have that us against them kind of mentality. are they digging in their heels and maintaining that? >> reporter: you know we didn't hear any of that from the players, per se. but there is that feeling in the locker room that you know they have been through this before. they have dealt with controversy. we got some of that feeling in the questions that we heard from some of the local reporters. and then also quite frankly,
just in the tone of some of the answers from the players who talked about other times they've had to deal with controversy. and we heard one person say, you know this is -- this is something you guys have had to deal with staying focused on the big game when people are criticizing you. and this team does acknowledge some of the players acknowledge, they feel they're criticized quite often and that's something they have learned to live with and deal with and they're going to do that again this week. >> all right. sara ganim, thanks so much. i feel bad, because you're the one taking one for the team today. it's nasty, cold outside. maybe one of the pats would come out and give you some hot cocoa. that would be nice. >> thank you so much. >> thank you so much. good job out there. and no it's not your television set. it's a lot of sideways rain and yuk. and so that image was getting really cloudy there. now let's talk about somebody else in the spotlight, tom brady. he says he didn't notice a difference in the footballs
during the game. and a former nfl ball boy says that's actually possible. >> if he was really looking for it. but i do have to say, in the heat of the game with everything going on i can totally believe that brady might not notice a drop in pressure in between quarters or plays. >> all right. not exactly who you expected when you say ball boy. ball man. joining us to discuss further, former new england patriots' linebacker chad brown, and former nfl supervisor of officials, jim diapolis. did i get that right? >> you got it right. >> all right! touchdown for me. chad you first. you played with tom brady. do you believe him? >>. >> i do believe him. i really do. tom's character has been proven to me over the years. and if you pick up a football i don't think tom has the forensic ability in his fingers to know whether a football is slightly
under inflated. he just knows it feels good in his hands and feels like the footballs that the equipment guys have prepared for him over the years. >> all right. so jim, the nfl says the footballs were under inflated in the first half of the championship game. but properly inflated in the second half. so do we know for sure that it was the same set of footballs, it was -- what could be at issue here? why is it so complicated? >> basically, what happens is an official all i can address is the fact that the referee approves the footballs two-and-a-half hours -- two hours and fifteen minutes prior to the game. once the game begins, he loses control of those footballs. the ball -- footballs go to the ball boy. so what happens in that is about a ten-minute window from the time the referee approves them they sit in the locker room in an 80-degree locker room. they sit in there, under the guide of the nfl security. there is a security individual that keeps an eye on the footballs. they stay in that locker room. when the referee and the head
head linesman leave prior to the kickoff, the footballs are taken out of the locker room and given to the ball boys. so there is about a ten-minute window that something could happen to them. but that's the thing that i'm trying to find out. and i don't understand why it has taken so long to make a decision on what actually happened to the footballs. >> hmmm. >> this is -- this is just dragged on far too long. we need to play football. we need to be more concerned for the super bowl coming up in another week. >> yeah it really has taken a life -- taken on a life of its own, and seems like it's going to continue until, you know play day. because, of course then you have the conversations about, you know if the pats win, you know do they still have -- did they have an unfair advantage. if they lose oh well then there will be the discussions they shouldn't have won in the first place during the championship. so you know chad while you were playing for you know the pats did you ever hear anything? was there ever a mention about deflated footballs or was it
ever a problem, or an observation before? >> i've never heard any talk about cheating in the patriots' locker room or facility whether we're talking footballs or any other way. obviously, spygate has tainted the patriots in the court of public opinion. but that is the hardest working group of football players i've ever been around the hardest working set of coaches. it's the best football environment i've ever been around. so their success over the last decade and a half is not due to cheating. it's due to hard work. and the folks who are most upset are probably fans of other teams. and the patriots because of their success, have beaten most of the other teams. so i can understand why those fans are upset. >> and so jim, what do you suppose this has done you know to the game to the nfl, or even to the patriots or even tom brady in particular in terms of reputation or trust in the game the integrity of it all. those kinds of discussions.
>> well it's really put a damper on what is going on right now. and it's put a damper on what the patriots have accomplished. and the frustration on my part is that you know we have already convicted the patriots. we have already said it's either coach belichick or it's tom brady or the equipment manager or the ball boy. without getting the actual results of the investigation by the national football league. you know i kind of like to reserve my judgment. and if somebody did adjust the footballs, then they need to be accountable for that. but right now, it's all pure speculation. and, you know until those final results come out, let's find out what actually happened who did what to what footballs, and then go from there. but right now, we're just kind of guessing and blaming everybody without anybody knowing for sure what happened to the footballs. >> all right. jim dapoulis jim brown, thank you both. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you for having me. let's talk weather.
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oh it is miserable out there. 40 million americans are going to feel it, this nasty winter weather, and traveling is nasty as well. the northeast is getting hit by this major winter storm that's stretching from west virginia to maine, a state that could see up to 10 inches of snow, maine. these are pictures right now from new jersey where they have seen a mix of sleet and snow. that's really the worst when it's a mix. you know it's okay our meteorologist is with us it's nice when you just have snow, but you have sleet, the sideways rain and wind that's miserable. >> it is. i took a look at the traffic reports from massachusetts and rhode island and connecticut. it is a mess out there.
we've got jackknifed tractor trailers car accidents all overs place. it is perfectly miserable as temperatures hover around the freezing mark in the northeast and new england. wind is a factor here. it does not look impressive generally 10 to 15 miles per hour, but the gusts are between 25 and near 50 miles per hour. the temperatures we go from washington, d.c. 37. it's above freezing. philadelphia new york city hartford boston hovering within a few degrees of the magic 32 degrees, which would spell out snow. for the most part. however, this is a very complex weather system. we're going to have bomb genesis, you probably heard of that over the last few days meaning the storm system deepens. it's going to move up to the north east and new england in its wake potentially leaving heavy amounts of snowfall. not for every. the i-95 corridor is the area most -- going to be the definitive line who has the
sleet, the ice, and who has the snow. snow on the west side and the northern edges of this but boston -- it looks like you could see as much as a foot of snowfall, but generally speaking, between 6 and 10 inches likely. already, some portions of new jersey 9 inches of snoechlwfall. the higher elevations in interior new york and new england. newark new jersey with 5 inches of snow and warnings and watches and advisories everywhere. nasty weather conditions. >> good it's starting on the week giving people to assess how do they begin their workweek but it's not going to be very nice. there's another storm on its heels. we're not finished yet. >> we're not. they just keep coming. >> thank you so much karen, appreciate it. all right, movies are in the spotlight. this is the first big film festival sun dance, in park city utah.
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get 4 lines for a $100 today. all right, the sun dance film festival is well underway and celebrities descend on park city utah and festival goers get a first look at the 2015 films, and one called "overnight," stephanie is rubbing elbows in park city. >> reporter: it is a beautiful town here in beautiful park city utah and i'm joined by adam scott from "the overnight," and it's good to have you here. no one really does that
uncomfortable humor like you did in the movie. that's like, oh, i want to cringe. was that something you were going for? >> yeah, i think the movie, one of the cool things -- one of the things we're proud of about the movie is that it brings you to places you don't often go in movies situations you run into in life but you rarely see in movies. we were trying to make it a little uncomfort blg, and we ourselves, were uncomfortable at times too. >> you had reasons to be uncomfortable at times in the movie. >> yeah. >> what was the part -- because it is based in a reality of that discomfort, but also making it funny. what was the challenge of making that happen? >> well i mean, the challenge -- you know it's a kind of movie with a lot of big laughs. it's got a lot of big, broad, raunchy parts in it and, you know, often when you see a muovie like that it lacks honesty or sensitivity. what was interesting about the
movie is it really is a combination of those bigger comedy moments with you know people really looking to connect and find friendship and i guess it really was not a challenge, but always trying to remember that no matter how funny the movie gets the free line while making it it's a story of two couples trying to make new friends and learn about themselves. >> they do learn about themselves in the process of it. what 1 it like to bring a film to sundance and have the feedback from the audience and get that response? >> it was great. my wife and i produced the movie together and so we've seen this from soup to nuts we've been with the movie, and so far only like 12 people have seen it. we've shown people but never with more than three or four people at a time. last night, screening for 1200 people was crazy. >> cool. congratlation, best of luck to you. a lot going on fred movies debuting here.
we'll see you later from sundance. they like our terminology. >> they've been wanting to do that. >> all right, adam scott and jason, thank you so much. congrats on "the overnight." they are still talking. keep going. we have much more straight ahead in the news room which all begins right now. this is cnn breaking news. all right, welcome back thank you so much for joining me. we're following breaking news this hour involving japanese hostages held by isis one of two japanese captives reportedly has been killed. in a new video posted by a known isis supporter hostage kenji goto is holding a photograph showing his fellow hostage beheaded. cnn is unable to authenticate the video, but these are images