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reporters now. welcome to "inside politics" i'm john king. thanks for sharing your sunday morning. with us is julie pace of the associated press, dan balls of the washington post and robert costa of the washington post. can you win the war against isis without calling the enemy radical islamists? president obama says yes. >> all of us have a responsibility to refute the notion that groups like isil somehow represent islam because that is a falsehood that embraces the terrorists. >> the president's many republican critics though say he won't beat the enemy until he better defines it. >> to call it violent extremism and not to call it radical islamic jihadis just goes to show that the president is once again underestimating our enemies. >> why, dan balls, are words such a big part of this debate?
one assumes it will be military action, diplomacy, some form of on-the-ground-persuasion but why does this become so much about what the president says versus what he does? >> without making this a pun, we're in a theological argument here. in some ways it seems like a side argument to the real question, which is what is the right strategy to go after them? but i think part of this is t what's built up over the years between left and right and conservatives and the president. >> this past week, the british, if you will, when rudy giuliani says this about the president, i know this is a horrible thing to say, and he should have stopped right there if you know it's a horrible thing to say, you should stop, but i did not believe that this president loves america. again, you can say why doesn't the president talk more about radical islam, why doesn't the president do this, why does he
prefer to lead from behind. that's a fair debate. is it smart for americans to get into he doesn't love america? >> certainly to question the president's love of a country is a territory many don't want to wade into it. scott walker didn't contest it. he was given a chance at the dinner to do so. he did not. he was given a chance in a television interview the next day and he did not. republicans are grappling with what are they going to be in the post obama era? they have to present an alternative. they have to come up with new vision in leadership. they're still focused on the president and criticizing him. >> i think that was a mistake for walker. i'll say it. you show strength by being able to say this person is my ally, he's my friend but he's wrong. this is an early test for him. there are a lot of people in the republican party who will say a lot of things. how viable these candidates are in a general election will depend on their flexibility and ability to distance themselves
sort of in a polite way. >> absolutely. we see this in a campaign after a campaign. there's a person who introduces you, there's a surrogate that introduces you on tv. you'll be put in this position a lot. when it comes to republicans, this speaks to one of the challenges that they have which is that they don't agree with what the president is doing on foreign policy in particular lately but they are having a really difficult time saying what they would do. in the absence of their own policies, they're criticizing his rhetoric or they're criticizing his broad approach and the themes that he's talking about. at a certain point if you want to run the country, you are going to have to put forward policy. >> if you want to run the country, scott walker has to make many decisions. that requires character judgments. we'll see if governor walker, this is a teachable moment. for the record, here's the president at the end of the week. he didn't mention giuliani. he's talking more generically about politics. i suspect he had giuliani's
comments in mind when he said this. >> it's not about the back and forth of politics, it's about doing things that make people's lives better, it's about doing things that make us confident that america will continue on this upward trajectory that began so many years ago. it's about making this nation we love more perfect. >> he loves america. look at that. shocking, right? >> yeah. there were also some comments earlier in that speech on friday where he was taking jabs at republicans talking about their doom and gloom predictions. that sentiment is the feeling that he wants to leave people with, that we should be in this altogether. despite how difficult our politics are we should be able to grant some of these basic principles. >> i think when he says some of those things he does it in a way, as you pointed out, earlier in the speech he took his jabs. that's not an uncommon thing for this president. he dislikes a lot of the
republicans as much as they dislike him. >> they are under each other's skin. one of the questions, how he defines the enemy, does it matter? can he lead the american people? the american people are in a muscular mood at the moment. cnn poll, 47% of americans said send u.s. ground troops. as republicans criticize the president, what would they do differently? some say he has to talk tougher, maybe lead a coalition. you have others not running for president, john mccain, one may be running for president, linds si graham. one governor is john kasich. will he or won't he? he said this to our gloria borger. >> i'm suggesting to you that in some point in dealing with isis, you mark my words, john kasich, you ever hear from him again, at some point it will require boots
on the ground to deal with this problem. i would rather deal with it sooner than later. >> that's specific and it's muscular. he says boots on a ground with a coalition but including, dan, u.s. troops. >> i think it's an important point. as julie said, a lot of republicans have been very critical of the mistakes that have been made, of the slowness to respond, the misunderestimating the threat but have not been willing for the most part to step forward with a clear alternative to what the president is doing. >> i think it's pretty hard for them. we're in a very, very, very early stages of the presidential campaign and we're involved with a very difficult, very complicated, very fast-changing international situation. you know, if i were a republican candidate, i'm not sure you would want to articulate a very flushed out plan of what to do. things in six months could look pretty different. >> you have the authorization of force debate playing out which all of the candidates will be asked about. senators cruz, rubio, paul are going to have to vote on.
then this week there's the dead lined the funding for the department of homeland security is running out. is there an off ramp? they don't want to give the department the money until the president backs off, the president says no way. our own poll shows if they shut down the department or parts of the department, republicans will be blamed, 53%. there's a case in the courts, the administration will ask for a stay. a texas government says you can't implement these. is there an off ramp if the administration says, you give me the money, you fund the department and we will not take any of these executive actions until we get the final word from the court? can they shake hands and agree on that? >> i think they could if the administration were willing to agree to that. i think the lawsuit is the off ramp. they could say we'll fund dhs and let this play out.
this is still very much being worked out. >> you could see boehner and mcconnell but can you see their tea party doing that? >> they're under pressure and that's why they continue to arctic ca arctticulate this. the judge gives them time to kick the ball down the field and say we'll revisit the debate. >> a lot of republicans argue they took the blame when the government shut down. they took the blame but when election day rolled around they did quite fine. >> they absolutely did, but it was the new senate majority leader, mitch mcconnell, who said no more government shutdowns on the day or so after the election. >> mitch mcconnell's reputation on the line joompt jeb bush makes it clear he's not his brother or his father when it comes to war and peace. something looks familiar. first though, joe biden in a familiar place. you saw his hands-on moment.
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in comparison to theirs, sometimes in contrast to theirs, but i'm my own man. my views are shaped by my own thinking and my own experiences. >> here's a question though, in conjunction with that speech jeb bush put out a list of the people he would look at for foreign policy advice, those that are in his circle of advisers. look at some of these names. he says he's his own man. to take a few, jim baker, chief of staff. treasury secretary, secretary of state in the reagan and his father's bush administration. paul wolfeowitz, tom ridge, the first secretary of homeland security, former pennsylvania governor but key ally of his brother, george w. bush and general michael hayden, he was the cia director in the bush administration. jeb busch doesn't consult dick cheney, he does talk to condi rice. donald rumsfeld not on the list,
colin powell. jeb bush says he's his own man. when it's foreign policy you want to consult people with experience. in the republican primaries the bush name is a great asset but also a liability in others, right? >> it is. i think the question is for a lot of these republican voters we talked to in iowa and new hampshire, he is his own man. wa kind of man is he? it was interesting to see that speech in chicago, it echoed a lot more of his father's foreign policy, his temperament when it comes to global affairs and his brother. i think you're going to see rand paul, however, he sees an alley. he sees an alley up to the nomination because you have all of these hawks crowding the space in the race and not a lot of noninterventionist voices. maybe paul could find traction. >> what is he supposed to do in the sense that his father and brother are the last two republican presidents? i can't have anyone who works from them so i'm going to get foreign policy advice from four guys off the subway? he has no choice. >> whenever you run for president you reach back into prior administrations for people who have experience.
where can he go? two bush administrations to do it. it's inevitable that he's going to depend on that. i think the question is how much more like his father is he than his brother? i think he wants to be more like his father, but these are difficult times. the problems that he's dealing with today are similar to the problems that his brother dealt with more so than the problems that his father dealt with. his father was at the end of the cold war. this is a new era. >> i think to link what we were talking about before the break, one of the challenges that he's going to have as he tries to lay out what he would do differently than president obama is that if he does talk about boots on the ground, if he does talk about military intervention in the middle east, who does that harken back to? it harkens back to his brother. how does he separate to what his brother did than what he would do if he's talking about getting more deeply involved in this region? >> it's going to be tough. one fascinating number in our most recent poll of new hampshire voters was a lot of voters saw jeb bush particularly strong on fighting terrorism. i don't know how much terrorism fighting there is in florida, but it doesn't seem like that's
something traditionally associated with being a governor. there already is this image of him. he has to construct a new image over something that's there. >> he's raising a lot of money. he's building his network. he has the old bush network plus his florida network. you can't say there's a front-runner but you have to put him up there as an establishment front-runner. tough week for chris christie. he read the washington post, "the new york times," people are saying, guess what, governor, you're losing some of the big donors. you're losing some big network staffers. is there pressure on chris christie? he can wait longer. isn't there a ticking clock here? >> there is. he and his folks around them want to think that they have more time, that this will play out more slowly, that there is, as they said in these stories, a lot more donor availability out there than just the bush network or just the network that jeb bush is getting, but he is under pressure now. john, you know, there are ebbs and flows in these situations.
can he come back? certainly he can come back, but he's in a different place today than he was two months ago, six months ago and under much more pressure to be able to show some forward motion. >> and his failure, perhaps, to be more aggressive with donors, to woo donors, i'm sure many of us, i certainly have heard whining from donors for several months that christie wasn't doing enough, creates an opening for scott walker up in new york this past week meeting for donors. you have to think it's not just about jeb versus christie. there are all of these people angling for any advantage. >> a real example of how things can change. we are very early and chris christie isn't out of this. if you look back in 2012 there was a real push for christie to get involved. if you talk to people who worked for obama and who worked for him before the 2008 election there was talk. maybe he should wait a while. maybe he's too young. if you catch a wave, if there's a moment you have to seize it. >> one of the reasons bush has his foot on the accelerator.
once he got in, keep your foot on the accelerator. >> let's turn quickly to hilg hillary clinton. they took money from foreign investors. they started taking it again. there was a statement from the foundation late in the week after there was some controversy saying if she runs, hello, if she runs officially, that they'll most likely go back to the former practice. why, dan? why is it the clintons have a blind spot when it comes to the foreign donors? >> the clintons have been raising money for 25 years and they never stop. there is always a new bucket to raise money for. i think many people were shocked to see that they were back raising from foreign governments. they've tried to maintain this idea that she is a private citizen. she's not in government. she's not a candidate. but she is the closest thing that the democrats have to a lock on the nomination and every
step she takes is seen not as a private citizen doing work but as a politician. >> they just seem to think that she's in such a formidable position that this is not going to change the mind of anybody whose vote she needs. yes, it may harden the minds of those who don't like her but they think it's a media story, not a voter story? >> there are two words we have to say, lincoln venture. this plays into the story that you were talking about, the clintons want to collect cash. it's damaging. when you combine that with all the paid speeches and the series of reports over the summer about how much money she was collecting for the speeches. it helps further this republican line of attack. >> clinton doesn't have a rival out there making these points about the foundation. when is an ambitious democrat going to get into this race, whether it's governor o'malley, senator webb, senator sanders and start going after the
clintons? we've seen a democratic party mostly united around the clintons. >> great point. interesting if somebody comes at this issue from the left, doesn't leave it up to the republicans. >> up next, news tomorrow. the seeds or the path to a possible chris christie comeback. you should just give them to us i mean, we're going to be there anyway why don't you just leave it for us to pick up? or you could always get in your car and take it back yourself yeah, us picking it up is probably your easiest option it's kind of a no brainer ok, well, good talk e financial noise financial noise financial noise
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corner. julie pace. >> they're trying to deal with a strategy to deal with benjamin netanyahu's trip in early march. this has become a problem. on the one hand they don't want to cede the space. you don't want a tit-for-tat. right now the white house will go with a cold shoulder approach, no meetings, no big speeches but there is some pressure from certain corners of this administration to be more aggressive, be more vocal, don't just sit back. >> keep an ion that. the israeli prime minister due soon. >> new hampshire. we can't get to new hampshire soon enough. >> little snowy. >> very snowy. i was up there briefly this past week. when you look at the landscape up there, we talk about a race that's wide open. i don't think we've ever seen a race in new hampshire as wide open as this. there is nobody anywhere above anybody else. somebody said you can throw a blanket over this field and they're all below 16 or 17%. no front-runner.
wide open wild race ahead. up in newspaper because if there was anyone who should receive the first david broeder reporting, it is dan balls, his former colleague. >> lisa. in 2007 hillary clinton ran on her resume and experience. the result of that strategy, obama became the candidate for open change and she became the candidate of the past. her advisers have resolved to do it differently this time. we're getting a preview of that new message starting next tuesday when she addresses a conference of women in technology. there will be a series of events to follow before women's groups and audiences focused on women. i think it will be fascinating to watch how she talks about gender, leadership and family issues that have become a major tenant of the democratic party. it will give us a preview of campaign themes to come. >> here we go. governor christie has had a tough week. try to combat this coming week.
he'll try to go on a town hall first from last year. get back to the contemporaneous christie and return to pension reform, an issue that made him a star back in 2010. >> interesting to keep an eye on that. i'll close with this. marco rubio is one of the more interesting calculations to make when he decides whether to officially join the 2016 field. first there's the jeb factor. rubio is from jeb bush's hometown. they're worried that jeb bush will soak up much of the fundraising money. the next generation candidate acceptable both to the conservative base and the republican establishment so will it be yeah or na? rubio's visiting the earliest contest states this month to assess the terrain. he's been building his political and fundraising teams. he promises a decision by spring. he's facing internal pressure to make intentions known sooner, to
know by the end of march because the other candidates are getting so active. they set the current odds at 60/40 in favor of rubio running. that's it for "inside politics." thanks for sharing your sunday morning. we'll see you soon. "state of the union" starts right now. a terror threat against western shopping malls. rude didy giuliani becomes lightning rod for the democratic party. this is "state of the union." good morning from washington, i'm gloria berger. breaking this hour homeland security secretary jeh johnson. rudy giuliani under fire about his comments about president obama. the president and terror and republican governor john kasich