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g to public at this point. not interested in having a private interview with the committee. >> so that's it for me. i'll be back at 5:00 p.m. eastern in the situation room. for our internal viewers, christiane amanpour is coming up next. for our viewers in north america newsroom with brooke baldwin starts right now. here we go on this monoafternoon. thank you for being with me. i'm brooke baldwin. you're watching cnn and we have to begin with nepal. nepal is in survival mode. people are still trapped under piles of debris two days after this 7.8 magnitude quake absolutely flattened mass civilian parts of this country and surrounding areas and
shifted its capital ten feet. a little boy is found alive underneath this building that crumbled on top of him. you heard the cheers of celebrations here as this man is pulled out alive. this is 48 hours after he was buried. for every one of these scenes every one of these survival tales there's more and more bodies. right now almost 4,000 people are known to be dead. but with many remote villages still unreachable including the epicenter there, the number of victims is expected to surge. and so is the humanitarian crisis here. nepal already one of the poorest nations in the entire world is overflowing with the injured and medical supplies. they are dwindling and dwindling very quickly, as in wood to burn the bodies to cremeat these
>> takes your breath away. climbers are still being airlifted off of mt. everest but 17 climbers did not survive. among them four americans. on the phone with me right now is an american doctor who is helping some of the injured at mt. everest base camp and, john talking to you all the way from here in new york to nepal, can you hear me sir? >> yeah. loud and clear, brooke. how are you doing? we have a beautiful night here at everest base camp. stars in the sky. stars in the sky. okay for you. i've been reading about everest base camp. what your at like 17,5 or 18,000 feet? >> we're pretty high up. the oxygen content here is about
half the amount of sea level. tough environment to be in. beautiful but dangerous. >> can you just tell me john how much of base camp has been evacuated and what you're seeing right now? >> well right now probably about 70% of the roughly, i'd say 1,000 people if you count climbers and support team and cooks and everybody that sort of comes to help with the season i'd say 70% of those have gone and headed down the valley. today get the remainder of the people above base camp were rescued and brought down. 10 or 12 people just didn't have enough time with helicopters to get them down. but then in the last 48 hours majority of people have left and hiked down for the three to five trip to fly to kathmandu to then fly home. as you've been reporting the
country is under a state of emergency right now with what has occurred with the earthquake a few days ago. >> john can you tell me where you were when this quake hit, when these avalanches happened there on mt. everest? were you north of base camp and did you see people who were injured? >> yeah. i was at base camp because i was here to climb as well and we were in a three or four day rest. i was sitting in the dining tent and this base camp is huge. it's about the size of a small town. you get about 1,000 residents for the course of an eight week climbing season. it stretches out for about a mile from the bottom to the top. our camp is situated at the top of the town so to speak, and so we were out of the zone.
there was this giant hurricane force, a blast that blasted across the glacier and destroyed about 40% of the camp. >> have you been seeing people coming and going, those coming who are able to get back down base camp and get out of there who are injured, can you describe some of the injuries you've been seeing? >> yeah. this is not a traditional avalanche because the earthquake triggered an ice fall coming down then the ice fall collide with an ice mass adjacent to the glacier. it was more like this air compressed blast that came across and so the injuries are more something you might see in the midwest like when you have a tornado or like hurricane force winds. tents being blown over. equipment and dining tents and tables and chairs things like that and debris being blown across the glacier and being
people in the track of that. so people got hit by you know, tent poles and equipment and rocks and things like that and so you had head injuries and even some wounds from poles and people getting locked up in their tents and getting tossed across the glacier. people's belongings being sent hundreds of yards away. a bizarre phenomenon all triggered by the earthquake initially. >> my god, here you are, jon at base camp. your staying put? your going to try this? are you going to continue climbing? i know some people this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. your getting out of there? >> yeah. i was here in 2012 and actually summited mt. everest then so for me going back up is a reason for me not to go. the earthquake destroyed the ice
fall and did a lot of destruction. 60 people were rescued from the upper camps and brought down because he couldn't climb down on their own. the season here is effectively closed. nobody will be climbing everest from this side this season. now the decision has been made to stick around myself and the people that were more fortunate and lucky to get to this event, we're sort of staying here for a few days to help with some of the people that are either injured or just need a place to have food and shelter for now. it doesn't do any good to hike down the valley because 1,000 people and other trekkers that are here are down in some of the villages and the villages have been cut off from outside so people are sleeping outside. they are very full and to capacity and it's better to be
up here. we have all the food and support we need for now. until things open up we won't go trekking down to lower valley to fly out of here. >> you're a good man to stick around and help people the best you can. absolute tragedy amidst absolute beauty. thank you so much for calling in from mt. everest base camp. i appreciate you at the moment 17 lives as we mention ad second ago, 17 lives have been lost on the everest. across the himalayas, others are still missing. nice to have you on sir, welcome. i hope this has a happy ending for you and your family. my fingers are crossed for your dad. what's the latest you've heard, any news >> no we haven't heard anything. he's in a very remote area so he's with a very expert guide. and one porter.
they drove from kathmandu on thursday and he told us thursday night was the last we heard from him they were leaving at 6:00 a.m. for the first part of their trek. so saturday they were going to hike from on their itinerary which is the day of the quake from their hotel to gora. since the quake hit around noon we're optimistic it would have meant they were on the trail between the hotel and gora so they would be out in the open. we haven't heard anything. i've been very active on social media. i've been getting contacted by tens of people. but the news out of the park that he's in there's very little coming out and very little communication. >> the challenge under the best circumstances to even communicate with people in this part of the world. so then you add in earthquake.
i imagine it's pretty trying for you and your family. >> it is. it's very trying. but it also is a reason to be optimistic because we know it's going to be impossible to get communications out. so we're very optimistic -- >> so maybe no news is good news. >> yes. news of people who have been unaccounted for is trickling in. we haven't heard about my dad yet. but, you know, we are optimistic that people may have decided that once things started to hunker down and wait a few days. at the same time we're away that there are some dangers. you know obviously there have been land slides in that area. we don't know about the portion where they are. and so that's obviously, a danger they could have been injured by the actual earthquake and need help or even if they are safe now you don't carry food on these treks, you maybe carry energy bars.
you stop at tea houses along the way where you get rest and food. they don't have days and days of food. we're hoping rescue efforts will go into langtang. some people we know are waiting from twitter wait took rescued and some like my dad we haven't heard from yet. >> two or three years ago my parents went together -- >> they must have loved it. >> they went for about a month. my mom will hate me saying this she said i loved it. that's my nephew. if she knew how hard it was she wouldn't have gone. he wanted to go back and do even more. so they went with a group called world expeditions then and their
guide of dili and developed a friendship and stayed in touch. my dad planned a trip just with him. so it was dili and him and a porter. >> maybe they got to a tea house or a village and have no connection. keep in close contact with us. >> thank you. >> and the guide as well. >> for other people there like i said we want rescuers to go in. i can give you my twitter later because there have been tweets of specific locations there where people are known to be waiting for rescue so maybe you guys can share that later. shoo absolutely. we'll talk in commercial break. i know a lot of you are sitting there wondering how you can help the nepalese people. go to cnn.com/impact. coming up next much more on our special live coverage on cnn of this zesting earthquake in nepal. we'll take you live to this
underground lab to a seismologist who can talk more about the science behind this and why you can't predict earthquakes. yes there were warning signs, a big one was going to happen. and we'll talk to a man whose family is in nepal, what they are hearing about the saempb and search-and-rescue efforts and what people are relying on for survival. we'll go to baltimore where the funeral of freddy gray is happening. a lot happening on this monday. you're watching cnn special live coverage. we'll be right back. in a snap. take a photo of your project... ...or just tell us what you need done... ...and angie's list will find a top-rated provider to do the job. the angie's list app is the simple, new way to get work done on your schedule. the app makes it easy, the power of angie's list makes it work. call, click or download the app for free today.
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credible threat that local gangs are working together to quote take out law enforcement officers. brian todd coming to you straight from baltimore. what are you hearing? >> reporter: we are hearing about this threat brooke and just in the last few minutes, police have increased their presence here around police headquarters in downtown baltimore. you see more officers stationed outside. they wouldn't even let us inside to talk to police officials about this threat and about what's going on with the security surrounding the protest. as you mentioned they did just release information a short time ago this afternoon saying they've credible threat that members of various gangs and these are gangs that are normally rivals with one another, including local versions of the blood and crips and a gang called the black gorilla family they teamed up to target police and take out, that's in the release, take out police and so they believe this is a credible threat they are
increasing security for at least some security involving police. this is a precinct where some protests have been going on they extended the security perimeter outward from that. this is a worrisome development here in baltimore especially coming on the heels of saturday night's demonstrations that did turn violent. the police have said outside agitators were responsible for that. interestingly enough out of the 30 some people who they arrested only three or four were from out of town but the police have said just because people were not arrested from out of town doesn't mean there weren't outside agitators stirring up violence. that's another factor that enters into the security situation on the ground here in baltimore today. >> i want to talk to a delegate and get his reaction this credible threat. let's move on. really now for more than a week we've been hearing about freddy gray's death. today his loved ones celebrated his life as he was laid to rest
here. ♪ >> these images from his funeral come in stark contrast to the video seen around the world now of gray in agony, legs limp as baltimore police officers arrested him on april 12th. the 25-year-old man died a week later, his spinal cord severed. >> we don't know why it is he died. it could have been from excessive force from the police of rome. we don't know whether or not i have absolutely no idea if it was because he didn't have on a seat belt. >> among the mourners there at the funeral, the mayor of baltimore, also the white house sent three representatives. also family members of others who have died after police encounters including eric gardner. the family asked for a break in protest. all demonstrations had been
peaceful until saturday. you see this scene. when baltimore police arrested 35 people brian todd mentioned only three or four were from out of town six officers were injured. joining me now keith haynes who has been at the service this afternoon for freddy gray joins me here. delegate haynes welcome. >> thank you. good afternoon. >> good afternoon to you. you know, first i have to get you to respond to what we're now reporting on from baltimore police this threat multiple gangs in your city want to take out police. what more now about that? >> well first of all, brooke let me say that since -- over a little bit over a week ago we had protests throughout the city. they have been peaceful. unfortunately, at the end of a peaceful demonstration or protest in front of city hall on
saturday a handful of people significantly handful group of people wanted to take it in a different direction and create some disturbing violence on saturday night. we have finished or concluded the funeral service here for mr. gray and i think while we were actually leaving the services that we became aware that there was a credible threat that was being reported by the police department. >> i understand. >> i do know some buildings downtown have put into process an early shutdown or closure in response to that threat that's being disseminated throughout the downtown area as well. >> i'm hearing you, you're just sort of learning about that's you're getting out of this funeral. let me ask you to respond as a man from baltimore, a man who represents this area who knows this area to hear that there are now rival gang members coming together apparently
according to police to take out police officers. i mean this has gone too far. >> it is disturbing. it's tremendously disturbing. let me simply say that whenever you have organizations, groups individuals who have an agenda to harm other individuals and in this case take out the police department, that is disturbing. that is not what we want to have going on in the city of baltimore at any time not just this time. and to understand that that threat which is supposedly a credible threat that rival gangs have come together over this issue is a cause for us to be really concerned about public safety and welfare in the city not just in my district and so we are cautioning and urging calm safety precautions, and this is not about more violence
but it's about getting to the bottom of the freddy gray incident but also a broader discussion on how we build better relations between community and the police department and better resources to the individuals that are in those communities where they are lacking. >> on that note you attended this funeral, the family asking month, the city of baltimore please no demonstrations you know keep the peace. what message did you walk away with? >> i walked away -- first of all, let me say today's funeral was an emotional service. a lot of people from across this country know the individuals came as well to mourn freddy gray as well as individuals from the community across the city. the message that it walked away with and i think was a common theme is that we want to see
peace. we do not want to see violence. justice deserves to be rendered at the end of the day however the facts come out. i think one of the things that we walk away from is that this is not just about mr. gray but there needs to be a broader discussion beyond mr. gray's death on how do we number one, begin to heal as a city and a district and number two, how do we build better relationships between the city community and the police department and how do we address and get to the root cause of the race issues that we know are in existence. >> quickly, i talked to too many people about this and when you talk to these people they say it should go beyond discussion. you're a delegate. there needs be change.
>> well you are absolutely right. let me simply say that we just finished a legislating session a couple of weeks ago here in the state of maryland. many individuals the legislative black caucus and senators addressed the issues that legally that we thought would help our situation here in baltimore city from body cameras to creating a special prosecutor when there are situations that arise like this to do an impartial investigation. to strengthening our civilian review board that we have in the city of baltimore and a whole lit any of legislation that we hope would pass to give us the tools that we need to help the community address these issues. so i see that we will continue
to work on that throughout the summer when we reconvene back in january again. >> okay. we'll follow up with you. thank you so much in baltimore. >> thank you. we'll take you back to baltimore in just a little bit. back to our massive story here we're covering in nepal, seismologists detected warning signs of this earthquake there. we take to you an underground lab where they look into the size of earthquakes, what these scientists look for next. wow. sweet new subaru, huh mitch? yep. you're selling the mitchmobile!? man, we had a lot of good times in this baby.
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dr. benjamin crooker joins me. he's a if iphysic's professor. professor, welcome. >> thank you very much brooke. >> let's get a little wonky because i'm curious. everything i was reading, nepal is on the convergent zone in the himalayas where the indian and eurasia tetonic pilates collide. why is this world capable of producing major quakes? >> well if you have ever watched a pot of past j boiling you see the water rise in places and fall in places and india is sort of like a piece of pasta floating on top of that water being pushed around. in the case of the earth, radioactive elements deep in the earth cause that same kind of upwelling in the mantel and push
the continents around the great pilates of the earth around and it happens one of those upwellings is pushing india north and colliding with the asian plate which is a separate plate and that's what causes the giant peaks like the himalayas and as those two pilates run into each other the ground, the plate begins to fold up because it's sort of stuck and then at some point that releases and that's what causes the earthquake. it's released energy from the whole continent being sort of compressed and pushed up against asia for a period of time and then suddenly it releases. >> okay. i'm having geology 101 flashbacks. it's fascinating. here's my next question because i heard on one hand you really can't predict quakes but at the same time it was just a week ago, professor, that you had these experts actually in kathmandu saying listen, the
next big one was imminent. how did they know it was coming and why couldn't they predict precisely when? >> some of it is just about time. you mention the time since the last earthquake. you know india is moving north at a certain rate of speed, which we can measure, actually using gps and so we know even though the whole continent is moving north that the convergence zone has not moved. we haven't had an earthquake. so we know the pressure is building up there. but this kind of thing is really going on ten kilometers deep underground to 50 to 100 kilometers deep. so knowing when the rock has finally reached the breaking point and is about to release is the really hard part that we really can't do reliably yet. >> okay. here we are in new york you're at fordham university which is across the street from where i'm
sitting, we're talking about a place half a world away in nepal, you have this seismonitor next to you. >> yes this equipment is capable of measuring earthquakes anywhere in the world down to a magnitude of five. what happened in nepal was huge. it caused the earth to ring for hours afterwards. it's the ringing much like striking a bell you can hear the bell ring for a long time afterward. it took 20 minutes for earthquake waves to travel all the way around the world and get to us. once it happened then we had activity for next couple of hours. >> and continued to ring as we know still these after shocks and then you have these land slides and monsoon season is a couple of months away. this is not a positive outlook for this part of the world. benjamin crooker at fordham
university thank you very much to you and your underground vault and the seismonitor. >> up next we'll talk to someone whose family is still there in nepal. he'll join me to explain what they are seeing what they are hearing and how the nepalese people really are tough, brave and rely on one another to survive. stay here.
i don't think i can quite say this enough. help desperately needed in nepal after a massive earthquake claimed the lives of 4,000 people. unicef says 1 million children are in need of emergency assistance. my next guest is trying to answer that call. prabal gurung grew up in nepal. his relief foundation raised more than $to 30,000. it's so nice to have you on so much. thank you so much. i'm sorry for what has happened to your home. can we just begin with your family. you have multiple family members back in nepal. how are they doing? >> they are doing fine as fine as they can like the rest of the nation. i think my mom, my brother,
brother-in-law sister father everyone my relatives they are all there, stranded outside, you know because they can't stay inside the house because there's still the after shocks that are really severe. >> so they are worried, they can't be in the house because it's rattling things can fall on them. where are they staying? >> they are in an open space on the ground like in a tent. and literally like -- it's almost like camping outside. it's not just them it's everyone in nepal and kathmandu, especially. and the villages they don't have resources so they can't do that. on top of that it's raining nonstop. and there's no electricity. so the connections are spotty. so it's been really difficult to try to get in touch with them and luckily with app and be social media, facebook twitter, everybody is keeping in touch. i went to school there so pi group of friends we started forum talking about what's happening, some of us are here some of us are around the world and a few of them are in nepal
and letting us know what is happening. it's harrowing. it's really really disturbing because it's one of the -- when i look at the pictures and i see the personal images people have sent me it's devastating. it's heartwrenching. >> it must be tough for you, hire your heart is back, there which is your family. almost this scene of i want to help, i want to help but this disconnect too right? >> one of the reasons was the minute i heard i was like you know non-action is not an option at all. i have to do something. you know we talk about doing good stuff and everything every day but is this time -- this is when we need to. >> get to it. >> walk the talk and so i started, that's one of the reason the foundation for nepal which means education. started educating displaced children and everything.
my foundation start ad fundraising thing on cloud rise and i went for it. i'm fortunate enough because of what i love to do, identify been able to have an audience and platform and connection sois reached out to all the people who have let's say millions of followers on social media. >> name some names. who is helping you out? >> jessica parker who is a dear my friend of mine to kim kardashian. it went from there to and cfda they pledged $10 million. to all the designer fashion community globally. >> they are all jumping in to help you help nepal. >> absolutely. it has been really great. so you know i'm always very careful about asking for favors and everything but this is a time you know no shame, i'm
going to reach out and ask for it because we need to raise known right now. right now indian funds are need and there's red cross and everyone is doing their bit but what happens in a week or two when attention is diverted to somewhere else. we have a rebuilding process that will take for a long time. >> i can feel people thinking this is wonderful how can i find this man. how can people help you. >> grow to crowd riser. under that i have nepal relief fund. and just go there, donate and i feel people should donate to like -- i would say organizations that they trust, they believe in. >> we have an impact your world website. we try to help. thank you so much.
our best thoughts and wishes to everyone your family and everyone work through this with the rains and living in tents i can't even begin to imagine. >> thank you very much. nepalese people have grace under pressure. they are very spiritual and they will get through this. >> next here on cnn we got talk about boston as well today where the defense has begun its effort to try to argue that the jurors should spare the life of the boston bomber dzhokhar tsarnaev. you are watching cnn. we'll be right back.
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olympic champion bruce jenner the patriarch of the kardashian clan revealed on national television he's transgender. this incredible athlete who won the gold showed his courage during an interview on abc news with diane sawyer. >> here i am stuck and i hate the word girl stuck in a guy's body. i hate that terminology. >> why? >> i'm me. i'm me. i'm a person. this is who i am. i'm not stuck in anybody's body. it's just who i am as a human being. my brain is much more female than it is male. it's hard for people to understand that. but that's what my soul is.
i look at it this way. bruce always telling a lie. so therefore, i told a lie about who he is. and i can't do that any longer. >> after that interview friday night so many people praised bruce jenner for bringing attention to this community. let's bring in a transgender woman doing the same thing, sharing her personal story. she was kimberly reed, once a high school quarterback now a file maker. her film "prodigal son" marks her coming out. >> looks like a fairy tale childhood but appearances can be deceiving. after high school i left for san francisco, then new york. i never stopped loving my home. but i never really returned.
i thought i put my past behind me. 20 years later i decided to go back for my high school reunion. >> kimberly reed is with me now. it's a pleasure to meet you. thank you so much. obviously i want to get your reaction to the bruce jenner interview. first for people who are not familiar with your story. small montana town high school football quarterback. what happened? how do you feel? >> i can really relate to bruce and i'm going to say bruce because those are the pronouns and name he has chosen for now although that can become a complicated issue. but, yeah i can really relate to bruce's story because i, i didn't make it quite as long as he did. i only lasted through basically high school. but, yeah. it was just really hard to feel like i was acting in a way where
i was trying to impress everybody else. i found it actually very comforting to have this set of rules that athletics provide. it said do this do that this ball across that line. that's all you have to worry about. for me it was a way to kind of turn my brain off and not think about all these other complicated things that were really going on. >> i want to get into that because you think of the epitomy of masculinity. i watched. you watched. you told me at commercial break you were stunned. >> like a lot of transpeople, like a lot of people that weren't trans, i was afraid it would go wrong.
i was afraid he would come across in an uncomfortable manner. i was proven wrong right off the bat. i think, you know when the tears came and he said -- >> taking the hair out of the rubber band. let's get into this. what i saw was somebody who was really authentic and genuine and, you know, somebody that just inspired a lot of compassion in me and a lot of people and that's what -- that's really what it's about. i tell stories, whether it's in film or story telling or writing or whatever i tell stories as a transperson so that i can bring people into the world of someone who is trans, let them see the world through those eyes and then forget that they are seeing the world through those eyes. then they realize it's just another human being and i can see the world through their
eyes we have the same concerns and hopes and wishes and especially like if you look at what's going on today with all the headlines, of all the really tragic stuff that's going on i think it's important to remember that you know nobody is losing blood here. it's going to be okay. one of the things that bruce said in the interview was, you know let's keep a sense of humor about this and i think that's really important. >> i want to ask you, because you talked about a couple of different things. one, i don't know if this is the case today you don't like to go back and look at pictures of you as paul. he's 65. granted he talks about taking hormones in the 80s. what's it like -- forgive me if this isn't the right way to said but the in between. does that make sense? >> it does. the curiosity is great. i'm glad you're asking questions where you maybe not