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in mon tony the first ever to do. >> he is so big and they are so little on sits atrack. >> half of those could fit in one shaq size 23 shoes. joony moose, cnn, new york. >> i had one of shaq's shoes once and i couldn't believe it. thanks for joining us. anderson starts now. >> we are waiting any moment now for brady's first comments since he knew that the balls were deflated since they went to the super bowl. he expecting to speak any moment now. he arrived by helicopter to speak at salem, massachusetts, which was planned before deflategate came out. a report came out that said that
employees probably deflated balls on purpose. and today his agent released a statement calling the report a disappointment and calling it flawed and biased. he is live outside of the stadium. and there will be some comments deborah, from the university president before tom brady speaks. we are obviously going to bring you tom brady as soon as he starts speaking. he was scheduled to start speaking around 7:30 do we know the reason for the delay? >> because the lane snaked through the parking lot and by 10 to 8:00, not everybody was inside. and they were son tom brady's schedule but not everybody was inside. we were hearing cheers go up
saying "brady brady, brady." we heard someone was offering 1,000 dollars for a ticket to go inside. and everybody is very friendly to tom brady here. nobody who i asked seemed to have a problem. they thought the report was heavily weighted to the nfl and the reaction was look rat what this team and that team does. everybody is aware this report came out but it doesn't seem to be phasing the people who came out here in support of tom brady and the patriots anderson. >> and deborah. do you know how many people this auditorium holds? i heard thousands? >> reporter: it holds about 4,000 people. and we heard initially when the tickets went on sale. they virtually all sold out. we were trying to get a couple of tickets to get inside but the
organizers said there is no room. so the decision was made they would show the first ten minutes of whatever he said. >> whether it is 100% true it is more likely than not that brady knew the footballs were intentionally knew the footballs were deflated. the question is that they were cheaters and should he be punished. and joining me now is cnn's rachel nichols. it will be interesting to hear from him and this is a favorable crowd for him. but he didn't allow his text messages to be seen by investigators. >> right. and there are text messages from lower level employees that seem to implicate tom brady. and there is no video of him taking air out of the balls and there is no video of him standing over them ordering them to take air sought and so there is room for doubt.
and what ted wells is saying that after gathering mountain of evidence that there is circumstantial evidence that tom brady knew what the under lings were doing. >> i don't understand and i'm not a big football guy, why wouldn't he just show text messages to investigators and if he has done nothing wrong, why not just show the text messages. >> wells said that. and he said he didn't know one of the lower level messages -- the text messages were given. and he didn't give them access to some things and one thing that roger goodell and others will take into consideration, stonewalling that is something they take into consideration itself. they don't like that. >> and one thing is nfl is out to get tom brady, the nfl doesn't have a history out to
get their giant stars. if anything they want to proticket the players -- to protect the players. >> like i said. if they want to get tom brady for 15 years they've been doing a terrible jobs. much less in sports. his agents claim they needed this result they needed to have a negative result and so they backtracked and proved that tom brady was responsible. this is a pretty well respected investigator. but this brings back a conflict of interest we talked about on this show months ago. the bulk of the agent's statement today was talking about the huge conflict of interest that the nfl hired the investigators and pay them money and in his words you pay them to get a certain result. it is an issue i brought up at roger goodell's press conference and he bristled at that and it is an issue they haven't been able to solve and right now tom brady's agt is using that. >> and did the agt come out and
say tom brady is innocent. >> well tom brady at different times when he's given press availability when it became public said i didn't have anything to do with this but this fire and brimstone talked about the flaws in the investigation. they didn't say tom brady didn't do this but it talked about how unfair the investigation is. and it will be interesting to see -- as we see him waking up to cheers of the multitudes if he will rouse them with "i didn't do it." >> and whether he addressed this right off the bat. >> jim gray is is a long time emmy-winning sports reporter and he has been known to ask tough questions but on the other hand jim gray he did do lebron's decision with him and he let him float and that is another decision factor.
>> let's just listen to the crowd. [ cheering and applause ] going to be asked questions. >> it looks like he'll be asked questions by jim gray. i don't know if he will give an opening. they have five prescreened questions from the statement that had to be cleared. we don't expect them to press tom brady that hard obviously. >> and they are still introducing brady. the last time he made public
comment was in that press conference before. >> before the super bowl, when they were still back in new england. bill belichick came out and give an extensive press conference with scientific details about how this may have happened. and tom brady gave some conference where he was vague, saying how i don't know how this happened and very broad and through super bowl week he declined to address it and so we haven't heard how addressed it in months and now that the report is out it is more on the table for him. >> the nfl doesn't have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that brady did this? >> right. so the integrity clause in the nfl will say a preponderance of the evidence so in legal terms, it is a civil suit versus criminal court and that is why you see the language in the wells report most probable it is more likely and lawyerly
language and for patriots fans they say this isn't fair you are convicting him on a most probably and that leaves it preponderance of the evidence and telling us we believe he did it. >> and he is just having a lengthy introduction from the president. but in terms of punishment what are they looking at for him and the team. >> it is wide open. we don't know where they will go. there is talk of fines and draft picks from the team. roger goodell has said ignorance is not an excuse and we've seen that with the cleveland browns and illegal texting on the side lines and the falcons piping in crowd noise and they docked the general managers and suspended and fined them and took them off
valuable committees and said ignorance is not an excuse and because you didn't do this you are responsible and so we think they will hold them to that standard and tom brady and the patriots to that standard even though bill belichick to that standard and if ignorance isn't an excuse we'll see if tom brady is yanked off the football field and that will be the biggest punishment. >> let's listen in. >> jim gray and tom brady. [ cheering and applause ] >> thank you. >> this is like a patriot pep rally. >> it looks like you picked a
friendly place to reappear. >> thank you, guys for being here. thank you very much. [ cheering and applause ] >> i love you tommy. >> i love you too. >> so i think when we decided to do this four months ago, there was a little bit of a different circumstance than what we're facing here this evening. so we're going to keep the evening to what it was supposed to be. [ cheering and applause ] >> however -- however there is an elephant in the room. >> where? >> you may be the only one who doesn't see it. >> so tom, you're in the news
here and the ted wells' report was just released. [ booing ] >> jim is known for hard-hitting questions. we have a show on monday night and this is how it goes so i'm used to it. we're going to deal with it and move on with the evening. what is your reaction tom, to the ted wells' report? >> who cares. >> see, i can't usually say those things. but i don't have really any reaction. my owner commented on it yesterday and it has only been 30 hours so i haven't had much time to digest it, but when i do i'll be sure to let you know how i feel about it. and everybody else. >> are you that slow a reader? >> well my athletic career is
better than my academic career. i'm used to reading x's and o's, this one is a little bit longer. >> when do you plan to address this publicly? >> hopefully soon. hopefully soon. there is still a process that is going forth right now and i'm involved in that process, so whenever it happens, it happens. and i'll certainly want to be very comfortable in how i feel about the statements that i make. >> so some slow statements right now, we'll speak for you, and you don't want to get into the details. how are you handling this controversy? su bothering you? >> i've dealt with a lot of things in the past. i dealt with this three months ago before the super bowl and i've dealt a lot of adversity over my career and my life and i've fortunate to have a lot of people that support me and love me -- [ cheering and applause ] >> thank you. life so much is about the ups and downs and certainly i accept
my role and responsibility as a public figure. and i think a lot of it you take the good with the bad and dealing with different adversities in life you do the best you can. and i was raised by a great mom and dad and support and i have a lot of great teammates that support me and we'll get through it. >> what are those people telling you? share with us. >> they are a little biased. but they love me unconditionally and i love them unconditionally. and we'll deal with this at a date. but that is not what this date was about. i was coming here to have some fun. >> has this however, detacted from your joy of -- detracted from the joy of winning the super bowl? >> absolutely not.
[ cheering and applause ] >> why not? >> because we earned and achieved everything we got this year as a team and i'm very proud of that and our fans should be too. >> is the super bowl tainted? should there be an asterisk? >> what do you guys think? either do i. >> your answer was? >> either do i. >> no it is not, is that what you are thinking? >> i asked what they thought. >> i asked what you thought? >> i said absolutely not. >> do you care what others think, say, and or write? you are getting pummelled. maybe not here tonight. do you care? >> my nature and character, i think as a human you care what people think. i certainly care what the people who are close to me think and
care about. i think also as a public figure you learn that there is not -- not everyone is going to like you either. so good bad, indifferent, there is a lot of people that don't like tom brady. and i'm okay with that. so like i said i have teammates that love -- that love and support me. i have fans i have family i'm very blessed. >> we move on. it sounds like a good time to jump off a cliff. have you done that lately? >> yes, i have as a matter of fact. >> why? >> i ask myself the same question about that 30 minutes after it happened. i know we were in costa rica with my family and i had my wife holding a -- a camera and my son wamz there with me and it was kind of a spur of the moment thing. >> they are obviously now moving on.
rachel it is interesting the tact he's taking which is clearly whether he's been advised by attorneys or by his agent, that is how these things work -- >> right. >> but i think some people will say, they support him and others say he seems arrogant and blowing this off. >> well i don't know arrogant or blowing him off but people looking to see him to say, hey, i didn't do it but if you are looking for reassurance, you didn't get that from him. we didn't hear that from him today. he has said it in the past. but the boston globe did a break down of the one major press conference given in comparison to the wells report and people want him to talk about this more and refusing to do it tonight may ruffle some fairs. >> and from weei.com and shawne
merriman and you say he's being dragged through the mud, so why so? >> i think for the reason the wells report did not offer any definitive evidence and i know rachel said there is circumstantial evidence and compared this to a civil case but that is not good enough if you are going to destroy the legacy and the career the legacy i should say, of one of the greatest quarterbacks to play the game. and to me there must be a much higher standard met by the ted wells' report than was shown in the 243-page document. >> mike if he wanted to put this to rest couldn't he just show his text messages. >> he could have. but as any smart attorney and donald he is a good representative and he is a calculating representative in that statement he released today, he wouldner in a -- would never in a million years allow his client to release messages
confidentially that wasn't necessary. sure he will take a p.r. hit but i'm sure he was told to take the p.r. hit but do not give them any evidence. now, i should tell you in that report jastremski's messages there was is this text messages cited to his mother that had nothing to do with the investigation. who is to say that doesn't happen to tom brady and i think that was a smart play by brady and ye. >> sean i want to play what he said back in january because he is clearly not playing it tonight. >> i didn't alter the ball in any way. when i picked out the ball to me they are perfect. i don't want anyone touching the balls after that i don't want anyone rubbing them putting any air in them taking any air out. i would never do anything outside of the rules of play.
i'm not a conspiracy theorist. i don't -- i don't know what happened. i mean i -- i have no explanation for it. >> so i guess, if brady is being dragged through the mud, why would his agent put out a lot of things except that brady had nothing to do with this? >> well it was 243 pages. i don't know if that is not enough information for me. i know i know saernd you -- anderson you don't watch a lot of football everybody would know if it was deflated and i would know. and i don't know if 243 pages is enough. if you read the report it said he knew about it and asked it. and the ball boy's job is to do what he is asked. and for him to say he didn't know anything about it it
doesn't make any sense to me. >> and rachel for him to say he hasn't read it or hasn't had time to digest it that is a politicians' answer if a politician said that you would say, are you kidding me. this is the last 24 hours and this is the most important thing going on and -- >> and clients will say guys honesty is the most important policy. my agent will kill me. you know how it is. he's dealing with a friendly audience. that is a more plausible explanation than gee, i haven't read it. he is obviously taking whatever advice he is getting up and i would have said my case and said my peace which i think new england faithful would love to hear or say i can't talk about it. i know you want to hear it from me but it is not smart play to
hear it from me. i'm not thrilled with that answer. >> mike from sean's point, do you believe that a quarterback like brady doesn't know when he touched a football doesn't know whether or not it has enough air in it? >> it depends on to what degree the air has been put out or let in. i would say certainly tom brady touches enough footballs in a season. as he told his teammates after this broke, i like the footballs a certain way. and if you are asking me if tom brady knows the difference between 11.5 or 11.8, no i don't think he does. >> we'll be back with more from the panel and more on what tom brady just said. we'll take a quick break. we'll be right back. when a moment spontaneously turns romantic why pause to take a pill?
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new england patriots quarterback tom brady has just made his first comments since the report came out. here is what he just said and didn't say just a short time ago in salem, massachusetts. >> there is an elephant in the room. >> where? >> you may be the only one who doesn't see it. so tom, you're in the news here and the ted wells' report was just released. [ booing ] >> jim is known for hard-hitting questions and he has a show on monday nights and this is how it usually goes and so i'm used to it. >> we're going to deal with it and then move on. what is your reaction tom, to the wells' report. >> who cares? >> see, i can't usually say those things.
but, i don't have really any reaction. jim, our owner commented on it yesterday and it has only been 30 hours so i haven't had much time to fully digest it but when i do i'll be sure to let you know how i feel about it. and everybody else. >> are you that slow a reader? >> well my athletic career is better than my academic career. i'm used to reading x's and o's, this one is a little bit longer. >> when do you plan on addressing this publicly? >> hopefully soon. hopefully soon. there is still a process going forth right now. and i'm involved in that process, so whenever it happens, it happens. and i'll certainly want to be very comfortable in how i feel about the statements that i make. >> so since those statements right now, we'll speak for you and you don't want to get into
the details, how are you handling this controversy? is it bothering you? >> you know i've dealt with a lot of things in the past. i dealt with this three months ago before the super bowl. i dealt with a lot of adversity over the course of my career and my life and i'm fortunate to have a lot of people that love me and support me. [ cheering and applause ] >> thank you. life so much is about the ups and downs and certainly i accept my role and responsibility as a public figure and i think a lot of it you take the good with the bad and dealing different -- with different adversities in life you try to do the best that you can. and i have a great mom and dad that support me and teammates that support me and we'll get through with it. >> what are those people telling you to do. share with us. >> they are a little bit biased. but i love them unconditionally
and they love me unconditionally. and like i said this night isn't what that was supposed to be about. i was to come here and have some fun. >> has this however, detracted from your joy of winning the super bowl? >> absolutely not. [ cheering and applause ] >> why not? >> because we earned an achieved everything we got this year as a team and i'm very proud of that and your fans should be too. >> and again rachel nichols, michael pet rallia and shawne merriman. and mike raised an interesting point when i asked about why didn't tom brady release his text messages which he didn't
for this report and brought up other text messages released of other peoples that he felt weren't jermaine to the case and you said there was a reason why. >> and the text messages were put in the report to one of the officials mother because it talked about some memorabilia of tom brady that he wants to pass on to her and there was in the report that he paid those low level officials extra sneakers and signed posters and that is why they were included in the report. and the investigators say that when they talked to tom brady about trying to get access to his phone records that they volunteered to have tom brady and his representatives vet the material first and only release to them what they thought was jermaine and relevant. obviously tom brady doesn't want to give up his private text messages to gisele. so they tried to find a way
around that and they never found one around that to tom brady. and they said would you want to do that with your text messages and people said no. but they tried to get something from him and they were not able to work out a deal to that. and to mike and sean first, what do you think should have to tom brady and the new england patriots. >> no question you should be suspended. people will be outraged if not. and if he's not suspended at this point, i think it would be so many guys outraged that the same penalties, look if this is anybody else they would have already been suspended or talking about suspension. the only reason this hasn't happened is because it is tom brady and that is it. >> mike what do you think? >> i totally disagree. i think the only reason you have a ted wells' investigation is
because of tom brady and bill belichick and roger's relationship with kraft. and goodell is going out of his way to make sure no favors are being paid to bill belichick or tom brady, one of the league's most popular players in history. as i wrote back in january when the story first came out, if roger goodel had handed down a stiff penalty, perhaps a draft pick or two when the balls were found to be deflated 10 of the 11 were under inflated this story would have gone away right away. and this wells story shows they were digging for something much more cynical and the think the penalty should be a fine of tom brady and some type of organizational brady was there was clearly a systemic breakdown
in the organization and leave it at that. >> the wells report is the league arm and that found fault with the organization and tom brady. the nfl has to follow through with a punishment there after that fault has been found, whether you agree with the report or not, otherwise you are sending a message to every other player in the league, hey, you can cheat the rules and get away with it. we are telling you that our investigation found there was cheating going on here in the eye of the preponderance of the evidence in the standard whether you like the rule that is the standard they found they violated that standard. now you might think it is too low and that is what they found and you have to punish someone for that because if you don't, you'll have every other player in the league saying i guess it is fair game now. >> we'll leave it there. mike i appreciate you being on sean and rachel nichols. just ahead, there is more breaking news. reports of a tornado in north central texas right now.
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new england patriots tom brady just made his first comments since the deflategate report. joining me on the phone is his agent don ye. thank you for joining me. i want to show two statements you put out earlier. i'm going to reed them to viewers. it's omission of key facts of lines of in inquiry, suggest the investigators reach a conclusion first and then determine so calls facts later. and then this report contains significant and and tragic flaws, and it is common knowledge in the legal industry that reports like this generally are written for the benefit of the purchaser. and what kind of a timeline now are you looking at for a response and do you expect tom brady to come out publicly and
say something about this. >> well anderson, thank you for having me on. the report just came out about 1:30 eastern yesterday and he's had about as many commitments as about one person can emotionally digest this. and so in terms of process, anderson he was referring to a question by jim gray about the nfl process and what he expected. and as of now, we have not yet heard from the league. >> do you have plans for tom brady to come out and address this directly? >> yeah he will eventually address this. but keep in mind anderson he had a rather chaotic press conference right after the afc championship game where he faced all of the media then as well as we spent one entire day in front
of four investigate attorneys for mr. wells' law firm. >> and one question people have is why not, why didn't he show his text messages even preapproved oneed to investigators. if there is nothing to hide why not show the text messages or share them? >> that is a good question anderson. and without really getting into my communications with my client i have to observe attorney-client privilege. but if -- if your in a situation, anderson when it comes to the nfl disciplinary process when you are generally assigned guilt and asked to prove innocence, that is number one, proving innocence is essentially proving a negative if you proclaim innocence, and that is a very difficult situation to put yourself in. second with the text messages the scope that they asked for is
actually very very wide. i probably should have made a letter public that we received from the nfl's lawyers. but in any event, if we would have provided the phone or the text messages -- you have to understand tom is a member of the union, the commissioner's office does not have any subpoena power, if the prominent player were to provide their private communication absent a subpoena that sets a precedent for all players. and finally, any information we would have provided and the wells' investigative team did ask us to go through tom's phone on our own and provide us with information if we chose to go through that route but if we chose to go through that route, any information we prove given them they would have had
skepticism about any way. so when it came down to it either way you turn you are really not playing on a level playing field. >> i guess part of me that would say though if there were a bunch of text messages from tom brady saying wow, i can't believe i heard about this deflategate, this is shocking you can't believe you wouldn't have given them those text messages. >> i can share with you, without getting into the specifics of tom's testimony, that nearly an entire day of answering questions from four different lawyers, that area was probes pretty vigorously. >> i know rachel is here with a couple of questions. >> hey, don. it is rachel nichols. >> how are you rachel? >> good. and some of the testimony is sealed since it is in the wells report and the information that made it into the reports is circumstantial and stacked against your client and you think the information left out of the report would be
illuminated to show his innocence and since the seal has been broken can you share with us some of the testimony that you think would help people looking to say, gee, what is tom's side of it -- >> and that is a fair question rachel. but without getting into the depth of it because, frankly, i also don't want to necessarily reflect badly on the lawyers from the investigative team that were asking questions because there were several times that i had to interject to give them context and to give you one example, the report kind of spotlighted the fact that tom had autographed items for members of the equipment team. sand rachel you've been around -- >> that is common practice. >> that is common practice. >> not quid pro quo. >> exactly. and unless you are rachel nichols and been around sports
your entire life and know that is common practice versus someone outside of the sport of football and the culture of football it is not a distinction that people can easily grasp. >> but were there parts of his testimony in relation to the text messages that we saw between the equipment officials or parts of his testimony where he said -- >> yes. >> -- he did know somebody or made it clear where he did know something where you can make it clear that he did know something and he did know this. >> there is an example. without getting into the depth of the testimony, let's go back to the report the report actually talked about there were texts going back and forth between tom sand the equipment manager -- and let me just say the equipment managers are very loyal and dedicated and they work long hours for very little pay and they did a groat job. and the report was discussing the exchanges and, um -- i just
lost my train of thought. but in any event the exchanges between tom and the equipment manager and one of the things they glossed over was the fact they found the exchanges to be unusual, okay -- >> right. >> -- and there is a human element to this. and that is is that the equipment managers largely toil in their jobs in anonymity and the next thing they know the morning after the afc championship game there is a giant spotlight involving their job and tom is human. he is very connective and supportive of the staff there. and for example it was pointed out to the lawyers, look, he is just checking on their status how they are doing. these people are not used to being the subject of a national spotlight. >> don, let me ask you point
blank, did tom brady have any knowledge of these balls being deflated. >> no. >> so you are saying he's completely innocent in whatever happened to those balls? >> in my opinion, yes. >> because in your statement -- some people pointed out, that is not something you just came out and said point blank, was that intentional, was that -- what was the thinking on that? >> well really i was just more trying to focus on the report and how it was written. and the fact that it really truly was not an independent investigation. >> as far as you are concerned, if tom brady was to make a statement, he would make a statement saying that he is completely innocent. >> i think he's already said that in the press conference after the afc championship game. >> and he would continue to say that you believe? >> yes. >> don, you mentioned he hasn't had contact with the league yet. what do you guys anticipate as
the next steps? >> that is a good question rachel. i don't know. because as you know the league has had recent struggles with the disciplinary process and they brought in and hired new personnel and so i don't really know how they're going to approach this. you know there are plenty of people there who are probably criming in on -- chiming in on what to do but i really don't know what to do. >> don, thank you very much for your time. >> thank you for having me on. up next more reports in north central texas. details ahead. there's some facts about seaworld we'd like you to know. we don't collect killer whales from the wild. and haven't for 35 years. with the hightest standard of animal care in the world our whales are healthy. they're thriving.
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and possible cell with multiple vort issies. this is at about 25 miles per hour and about to cross over i-35 in denton. it is no north -- to the north of you, but if you are in denton take cover. this is in effect until 8:00 central time and they keep extending it so it could stay on the ground for longer. so be on the lookout if you are in north texas in that area. oklahoma city has cleared out. that is where we saw the rough weather yesterday. but rough rain again tonight. yesterday they set a report. 7 inches of rain. a little bit more. that was the rainiest day on record as far as yesterday was concerned. third rainiest day ever in oklahoma city. not only talking about the severe weather, but snow in the forecast as well and that will make the next couple of days very very tricky as far as that
severe weather goes. we could see some danger weather. in fact moderate risk of severe weather in oklahoma city and continues into saturday as well so we'll watch it over the next couple of days. >> jennifer gray. thank you. and parts of the midwest in clean-up mode after tornados rip through four states. today, for a lot of people it was about surveying the damage. >> wednesday night, multiple twisters tore through four states in the southern plains ravaging homes, snapping trees and downing power lines. >> i have to back out of here. >> the national weather service reports as least 48 tornados touched down throughout parts of texas, oklahoma kansas and nebraska. even heading out of rural areas to south of downtown oklahoma city a town of 500,000. >> it is really cranking now. >> travelers in the will rogers
airport were evacuated. and the local hospital lost power and had to resort to emergency generators to stay operational. but it is an rv park south of the oklahoma metro area that took a direct hit, injuring 30 and killing one. >> this has been my life for 27 years and i can't describe it. i think i'm in jockshock. when i saw, it i couldn't believe it. the devastation, you wonder how are you going to recover from this? but we will. >> in lincoln, kansas another tornado flips cars. >> we have a large mult develop cortex -- vortex on the ground. if you are on lincoln, kansas or on i-14, take shelter and this is a large tornado continuing to grow in size. >> by this morning the storm winds had died down but residents in oklahoma kansas and nebraska had to deal with torrential downpours.
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claimed credit for. the two gunman were shot and killed outside of the building where a cartoon contest where images of mohammed were taking place. one of the gunman was on the fbi radar but hours before the attack the fbi sent a warning to police in garland. pamela brown joins us with the latest. so the warning, what do we know about it? >> james comey said they sent a warning three hours before the gunman was killed. and this was prompted by his social media activity. and as we heard, elton simpson was angry and the fbi saw the tweets and alerted authorities on the ground in texas. but we're told the fbi had no idea he and his accomplice left
their home here in phoenix, arizona, and drove -- and was on their way to texas to launch an attack when the bulletin was sent. >> there was a heavy police there and do we know if that was in response to the warning about the fbi? >> what we know is that a few days before the event, anderson a bulletin was sent out about the fact this could inflame extremists in the u.s. and they were aware of the threat and there was already security in place and simpson was one of the many people on the list of possible extremists who may want to target the event. and police will say they already had a plan in place and they were prepared for anything. >> pamela brown, thank you very much for the reporting on that. obviously there is still a lot to be learned on the investigation into this how much isis actually did have connections with any of these
would-about terrorists. we'll continue to stay on that. that does it for us tonight. thank you for watching. coming up right now, mike rowe's "somebody's gotta do it." we'll be back at 11:00 with another edition of ac 360. i hope you join us for that. >> i'm mike rowe. and i'm on a mission to find people on a mission. boom on a scale of 1-10, how much do you like what you do? >> 25. >> what are they doing? >> freaking me out. >> how are they doing it? and why. >> i love to make things that make people smile. >> it is very freaking exciting. >> i dare you to turn
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