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what firefighters are doing to stop them. also the president ready toy crack down on greenhouse gas emissions. this major climate change plan has many seeing red. and is joe ready to go? talk biden might launch another presidential bid. how that can shake up the race. let's talk in the cnn "news room." good monday morning! i'm poppy harlow in for carol costello. thank you for being with me. we begin with the unnerving story. for the third time in three days airline pilots are reporting a close call with an unmanned drone. the latest incident from last night once again at jfk airport in new york city. one of the busyiest airports in the country. we talk with a veteran airline pilot who flew out and into jfk this weekend. a 777 pilot has logged more than 18,000 hours in the cockpit. he's a cnn aviation analyst.
you flew out of jfk to london. >> i did. >> it didn't happen to you but it happened to three different planes reported. potentially more. when you look at the rules of the road here when it comes to drones they have to be five miles clear of any airport, they can't fly above 400 feet. why does this keep happening? >> it's the technology is such that people can afford these toys that go to incredible altitudes. there are some that go all the way up to 13,000 feet. for the price of $3500 for the toys. why it's happening it just sounds like complete irresponsibility to me. >> take me into the cockpit. if it were to happen to your commercial airliner, i mean, what happened with the two incidents over the weekend the drones were within 100 feet. it's unclear how close the one was last night. what do you do? you can't exactly veer off course. you have to talk to air traffic
controller controller controllers. >> it is tough you're in a stabilized position. if you have to maneuver the airport you can to get away from the particular object or another airplane for instance but that being said -- listen if a drone hits an airplane more than likely the drone is going to lose. however, we talked about this before. if it goes into an engine there's a possibility of that kind of ingestion possibly shutting down the engine. even if that happens we're trained to fly the airplane on one engine. it can hit the wind screen and crack the outer pane of the wind screen. it will cause a visibility problem. that being said for the most part we can maneuver away from this particular object if we see it. they're very small. >> this is the last thing you as a pilot want to think about flying your plane. >> we're dealing with the environment, we're dealing with weather, now we're dealing with lay zor strikes, drones and
security concerns. >> sure. what can be done? because you have the faa that regulates planes and regulates the drones. a lot of folks have said the regulation here just isn't in line with how fast the technology for these drones is becoming and how assessable they are. >> i agree. my suggestion has been let's register these things. let's license the people flying them. if you don't have a license, that there's a fine a penalty, possible jail term. at least we have some form of accountability. at this point, we really don't. unfortunately, you know, it takes away from the people that are responsible that are radio control hobbyhobbyists. >> right. it does. you pointed out you believes it people -- believes it is people making dumb moves. you're talking about jfk airport in new york city. that's is a way people with bad intentions could test the
waters. >> absolutely. a couple of weeks ago we saw a young man that put a gun on a drone. so, you know yes, it's indeed possible. we can carry it one step further and it could be a nefarious act. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. to california now where the sun is about to rise but across much of the state it will have to breakthrough the smoke. there are nearly two dozen wild fires burning in northern california right now racing across drought-parched landscape from one end of the state to the other. the most ferocious the rocky fire grows more dangerous by the hour. fire officials are warning of the day ahead. let's get the latest from stefanie in cue lou is aolusa county. >> the sun is giving a little bit of light here poppy. you can see what the terrain looks like. behind me is the big bulldozer.
the fire is 5% contained and they want to see if they can contain the fire and stop the progress. >> reporter: flames crackling spreading into the night. overnight lightning, wind and low humidity fuelling the flames. at least 21 wild fires are burning across california exacerbated by the state's drought. more than 9,000 firefighters battling the flames. the state's largest wild fire the rocky fire ravaging counties north of san francisco. this inferno already incinerating more than 50,000 acres. >> there are firefighters that have 20 25 30 years on the job that have never seen fire behavior like we've seen the last couple days here. >> reporter: firefighters using many resources to try to tame the fire. some crews actually using tools
to set fires. this to prevent the progress of a fire by taking away its fuel. we're standing along california 16 and what they want to do is contain the fire so it doesn't jump across this road. a lot of fires, backfires being built on the opposite side. as you take a look at the active fire here you can see the wind is pushing it. >> reporter: thousands of people and structures under evacuation. >> we got out of the meeting and it looked like a bomb had went off over here. >> reporter: as dozens of res residences and buildings are left smoldering. >> everyone's houses are ashes now that we know. >> reporter: and when you take a look at the conditions that these firefighters are dealing with it's soaring up to 100 degrees. they're all suited up. now the sun is coming up i'm starting to feel the wind build up as well. that wind is really part of the problem because it just helps to
spread the embers and blow the fire along and into different places. that's one thing they're trying to battle and contain the fire but just a massive explosion over the weekend up to this 54,000 acres that have been burned. >> we saw one firefighter lose his life trying to battle the flames over the weekend. our thanks to everyone out there doing their best to contain it. i want to talk more about this now and the latest on the firefighting efforts across the state. daniel daniel daniel thank you for being with me sir. >> good morning. >> give me a sense of the latest tally on the number of acres burned and also the winds that stefanie talked about and just how much worse those gusting winds could make this. >> caller: well, as she mentioned, right now we're fighting nearly two dozen wild fires up-and-down the state. northern california being hit the hardest.
it's the dry condition allowing the fires to grow at such an explosive rate. the rocky fire the largest fire of the year so far. well over 50,000 acres burned. we continue over the next couple of months will only get drier. the risk of the wild fires will only go higher. >> how thinly stretched are your resources right now trying to fight the flames? >> caller: as you can imagine with well over 9,000 firefighters on the front lines, we are incredibly busy. here in california governor brown signed a state of emergency. he gave us extra firefighters to battle this exact scenario. we brought in the california national guard. we have a lot of resources. >> is it enough? are the resources enough now that you have the governor declaring that state of emergency over the weekend which unlox some of the extra funds? >> caller: absolutely. we're aggressively attacking with resources that we have here. we also have more resources available to us that respond to
the initial attack fires. we talk about two dozen fires, but that's not the hundreds of fires that we're responding to each week that we're able to keep relatively small with the other personnel and firefighters. >> daniel verlund, thank you very much. we appreciate what you're doing. still to come here in the newsroom armed and dangerous. you're looking at a photograph of a man suspected of gunning down a police officer over the weekend. this man is still on the loose. that story ahead. listen up... i'm reworking the menu. mayo, corn dogs... you are so out of here! ahh... the complete balanced nutrition of great tasting ensure. with nine grams of protein... and 26 vitamins and minerals. ensure. take life in. ♪ every auto insurance policy has a number. but not every insurance company understands the life behind it. those who have served our nation.
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officer is shot. the dispatch says nowed a size advising. the person calling it in said call the balance. call ambulance. i need an ambulance now. the audio ends with the dispatcher saying officer down at that location. we are talking about officer shawn bolton. funeral arrangements are pending for him. he was murdered saturday night during a traffic stop. he's 33 years old. he is the third memphis officer to die in the line of duty in just four years. police right now looking for this man 29-year-old tremaine wil wil wilbourn. a reward has been offered for his capture. officer bolton apparently interrupted a drug deal. >> officer bolton apparently
interrupted some sort of drug transaction. digital scale and a small bag of marijuana about 1.7 grams were located inside the vehicle. >> nick valencia joins me with the latest. it reminds you that the officers put their lives on the line. >> reporter: the 29-year-old tremaine on the run now considered ampled and danger edarmed and dangerous. he was on supervised probation. ten years sentenced for an armed robbery of a bank. we know he was involved for what it seems, according to police in a small time drug transaction about 1.7 grams of marijuana. equivalent to about $20 street value. essentially the 33-year-old officer was killed over $20. bolton an iraq war veteran served overseas to protect america's freedom only to be gunned down on the street the of
them mis. >> -- memphis. >> a second person turned themselves in. there was a little bit of conclusioncon confusion confusion. what do we know about the other person who turned themselves into police? >> initially named a person of interest. he was questioned by police and later released. we don't know what information was gleaned from that person. he may have been the last person to see 29-year-old tremaine. the man driving the car the witness to the shooting was that tremaine wilbourn was named a suspect. still on the run today a $10,000 reward is being offered for any information leading to his capture. a very difficult period of time for the memphis police department. in the last four years they've had three police officers killed in the line of duty. >> and this officer just five years on the job 33 years old. nick thank you. >> >> reporter: you bet.
new mexico churches are on alert following two separate explosions in churches. both happening during sunday services. officials say one device ploexed in a mailbox. the other inside a trash can. luckily no one was hurt. it's unclear if the blasts are connected to one another. the fbi is investigating. a sad story to tell you about. a 9-year-old bat boy has died after being struck in the head by a bat. kaiser carlisle was helping retrieve bats for a collegiate baseball team in kansas when the accident happened. the team is crushed by his death. they dedicated their win to his memory. police are searching are searching for two people who opened fire at a house party and killed two people. you can see one of the suspects walking there. in a different frame you can see a different man fire off multiple rounds. two victims were shot in the neck. they are in stable condition. heavy monsoon rains have
killed at least 47 people in me began myanmar. a half a foot of rain fell on the area. it's happening in eastern india. 48 people were killed due to flooding. more bad weather on the way. still to come to politics now. joe biden getting a lot of attention this weekend. will he run in 2016? there's talk that he could launch another presidential bid. how do democrats feel about that? next. woman: this is not exactly what i expected. man: definitely more murdery than the reviews said. captain obvious: this is a creepy room. man: oh hey, captain obvious. captain obvious: you should have used hotels.com. their genuine guest reviews are written by guests who have genuinely stayed there.
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>> reporter: good morning. more details indeed. the president has authorized u.s. coalition air strikes to defend rebel fighters on the ground in northern syria. there are several groups up there that the u.s. is looking to defend against isis against al the al qaeda group up there. a compound came under attack. the two groups of rebels were there. the u.s. trained and equipped and another group that the u.s. is supporting. the president authorizing u.s. air strikes to defend that group ata compound when they came under attack from this al qaeda group. it's gotten a lot of attention for a couple of reasons. we're seeing u.s. air strikes defending additional rebel forces and we're seeing this group come under attack by al noose are a. the u.s. thought that they would
attack them in that part of northern syria. as one official said to me at the end of the day they are more anti-u.s. perhaps than they anticipated. so that strike coming a bit of a surprise. looking to embarrass the united states by attacking the rebels that the obama administration is supporting. i think what is so interesting here is that it may not layw lay the ground work for additional strikes in the area. >> what i was going to ask. what your sources are telling you at the pentagon. what you read from this in terms of the larger strategy by the united states in the region. what does this tell us? >> northern syria right now is a great question. northern syria where all of this is happening very much in the u.s. military cross hairs. northern syria is a stronghold of isis. two towns up there aleppo as
well as the stronghold of another group. the kurds have been making a lot of progress in fighting isis. the u.s. supporting the kurds able to do air strikes much closer from southern turkey. a lot of effort in the coming weeks expected to get the rebels up and running and push isis even further back. it's the place to watch right now. >> absolutely. barbara starr, thank you. republican presidential hopefuls blasting president obama's ambitious plan to combat climate change. some threatening to go to court to block it. he hasn't even officially unveiled it yet. >> i think it's a disaster. it's taking -- it's typical of the obama administration taking executive power he doesn't have. >> it will make utilities and the cost of electric higher for
millions of americans. if there's a billionaire who is pro environmental they can probably afford for their electric bill to go up. it you're a single mom in tampa, florida and your electric bill goes up by $30 a month that's cats trofblg-- catastrophic. >> if you look at the satellite data in the last 18 years there's been zero recorded warming. >> you're not saying global warming isn't real? >> i'm saying the data and facts don't support it. >> there you have it some of the responses that came out yesterday after it was unveiled. the president making a formal announcement a little bit later today to announce what is known as the clean power plan. that comes this afternoon. let's go to the white house where we find cnn white house correspondent michelle can zin ski. no surprise it's going to be criticized. it cuts down party lines. i expect we'll hear from energy ceos about this. >> reporter: right. >> walk us through the big
headlines on the proposal. >> reporter: yeah. you knew it was going to happen surrounding the subject. this is what i'm still here not only that but i'm still going to get stuff done kind of things that president obama has wanted to do in the fourth quarter of his presidency. could he get it done if congress had a say in it? nope. therein lies a lot of criticism. they are putting out big numbers surrounding this. they're saying it's going to cut carbon emissions specific will i from powerplants by 32% over 2005 levels by the year 2030 and saying it's going to have expansive effects even medically it's going to cut down on premature death due to emissions. i saw 90% over 2005. childhood asthma attacks by 90,000. it will generate a new focus on clean energy. that's the opposite of what krit
sicks s -- critics are saying. here is president obama in a video that the white house put out. >> powerplants are the single biggest source of the harmful pollution that contributes to climate change. until now there have been no federal limits to the amount of pollution the plants can dump into the air. it you believe, like i do we can't condemn our kids and grand kids to a planet beyond fixing and i'm asking you to share the message with your friends and family. >> reporter: absolutely people are going to jump all over this. we're hearing it from republicans, from the sound bytes you play there had, from the mining industry from climate change doubters deniers, some states are threatening to sue the administration over this but the white house is saying we are giving states time. they don't have to come up with a plan to reduce these emissions until late next year. then they have years and years to extend it or slowly phase it in. the white house is saying states have plenty of time to
accomplish this. >> it's interesting, michelle thinking back to what senator lindsey graham and other gop contenders said in the past few months. he talked about his party and he said, you know we have energy plans. we don't have environmental plans as a party. you know when you look back to 2012 the issue of climate change didn't come up in a debate. we've got a big debate on thursday. does this force the issue? >> reporter: absolutely. just from what we're hearing already, the president is going to do this now. we're in the early throes of this campaigning. of course those questions will come up. it's adding fuel to the fire, so to speak -- is that a bad pun? s it -- it is a big issue. the white house has cared about very much. it's grown and grown as we've seen national disasters and especially hot summers. the fires going on in california those things too, have generated more debate over this. it's just like oil and water there. those who say the facts show
that climate change is real and it's manmade, and the other side who says the facts show just the opposite. >> what about this as part of obama's -- president obama's legacy building? >> reporter: yeah this is one of those big things he's wanted to accomplish. we've seen him in the past act unilaterally generally on climate change on pollution, but clearly this is something that he really wanted to get done and do it in this kind of big unveiling sort of way. we're going to hear from him this afternoon in a couple of hours, and i'm curious, too, to hear how strongly he's going put it out there. is he going to directly confront some of those climate change doubts that out there as we've seen him do in the past year. as we know he's been speaking extremely boldly and seemingly off the cuff or speaking more to his state of mind than we've heard him do in the past couple of years. it could be a pretty interesting
statement today. again, we're also going to hear the strong views from the other side on this poppy. >> i would safely assume this is going to be a debate that rages on and on. thank you, michelle at the white house for us. some political observers called joe biden the most influential vice president in u.s. history. now members of his inner circle are urging biden to make an attempt at the top spot. a race to jump in the race for the white house. one of his biggest supporters was his late son beau you see him there embracing his father at the 2008 convention. beau biden died of brain cancer two months ago. shortly before his death, beau biden urged his father to run. here is what a friend of the vice president, who has known him for a long time told my colleague chris cuomo about a bid this morning. >> i sincerely believe that beau
biden did have that discussion with his father and i -- maybe beau worried that his father after leaving the white house, would not find something challenging for him. he worried about his father maybe mourning him. and i know that beau and i and hunter and the entire family -- joe biden, my bucket list which is supposed to be more me. on my bucket list is joe biden being president of the united states. my passion for that is so strong. i can't write him a big check if he decides to run, but i'll match my passion for that money day. >> joining me now to discuss is cnn white house correspondent and cnn political reporter. thank you for being here. suzanne, several democrats telling us at cnn that biden has
yet to rule out a campaign. may wait until after the month to decide. the spokeswoman for the white house calling the speculation over the weekend about 2016 bid premature and appropriate. when is it too late? >> it's getting close to that time. i have to tell you a brief story here. i had a chance to talk with the late beau biden when it was obama inauguration celebration. it was a time when joe biden made a gap, a public gaffe referring to himself as the president instead of the vice president. it's clear he wanted this for a long time with two former attempts. and that beau has been supportive as well as his son hunter of making that happen for their father. it's been very very special and intimate in their family. what i've been told by a source a biden source, is that it's going to be a family decision. joe biden is not there yet. he's not yet decided or made that decision but they will get
together with his wife jill and his son hunter and other relatives, and make that decision within a month month and a half or so. this is something that is close to all of them. as you know his sister was the campaign manager, and his niece the political director. we've also seen one of beau's staffers jumping in on this draft biden movement. s it getting ing-- it is getting close and a lot of people who would have supported biden have been gobbled up by the clinton machine in terms of building that staff and even quietly some of the commitments that have not been made public by people who will be public later saying they will vote and go ahead and support hillary clinton. he doesn't have those people anymore. >> when you look at the latest national polling, what it shows is hillary clinton at 51% unfavorable versus joe biden at just 39% unfavorable.
some might say do those stubbornly negative numbers on the unfavorability rating for clinton mean there's room here? >> that's right. i talked to some sources in this sort of riden with biden movement. they talked about how biden compares to clinton and what kind of run he would make vis-a-vis hillary clinton. they used words like honest trust worthy humble. someone said that joe biden is one of us. they used the phrase "biden family values" they see biden being able to run in a way different than hillary clinton. hillary clinton has the negative numbers when it comes to being viewed as trust worthy. people say they don't quite know her. she's had problems with her campaign generating that enthusiasm and a sense of connection. if you look at the internal poll numbers, they say people don't think that hillary clinton represents or relates to people like them. that's another thing.
in some ways joe biden's candidacy was seen if something happened with the hillary clinton campaign he would be on the shelf there and able to jump in. that looks like what they're thinking about, i think, the issue there is everything laid out there. the family might want him to run. there's not a groundswell of support among democratic grassroots. >> how do you excite people to get out and on board especially the later you jump in. talking about hillary clinton she's released her first ad for 2016. one of them she pays tribute to her late mother dorothy. i want to play part of that. >> when she needed a champion someone was there. i think about all the dorothys all over america who fight for their families who never give up. that's why i'm doing this. that's why i have always done this. for all the dorothy's.
i'm hillary clinton and aapprove this message. >> you covered the clinton white house. what are your thoughts on the ad? >> hillary clinton hasn't changed all that much since i covered her as first lady in 2008 when she was running before. it's all in the packaging and the emphasis here. we did see her mother dorothy, the last time she ran and she was a special part of the campaign. but i have to say she wasn't a big large part of the campaign or the messaging for that matter. we actually saw something that was more the emphasis of the diplomatic leader the traveler as first lady the person who was ready to take that 2:00 in the morning phone call the can-do person ready to lead at a moment's notice. it was not the mom, the grandmother, that kind of image. it's clear that she's trying to appeal to women. she's trying to appeal to the mad rate-- moderates, the independents and she needs those people to feel she's trust worthy and somebody they can count on and depend on and is
not going to knock you over the head with her message there. it is different than what we saw in 2008. >> thank you both. >> thank you. still to come the large piece of debris that was found on an island beach is now in a french laboratory, but why are they waiting days to examine it if it could be part of mh 370. everyone loves the picture i posted of you. at&t reminds you it can wait. flonase allergy relief nasal spray outperforms the #1 non-drowsy allergy pill. most allergy pills only control one inflammatory substance, flonase controls six.
>> that was earlier this morning confirming the debris found on the remote island in the indian ocean is from a boeing 777 plane that is the same type of plane that went missing 17 months ago malaysian airlines flight 370. the clock is ticking for the french officials investigating the part. cnn is live in paris this morning. i think what has been surprising to many is the experts who are vowing to get the work done, quote, quickly, are waiting until wednesday to start. why? >> reporter: i think they want to take their time and make a me meticulous look at this part. i don't think there's any expert that has any doubt this is part of mh 370 because they don't fall off airplanes. there's only one been crash of a 777 in that part of the world and it was mh 370. i don't think there's any real doubt about that.
i think more what they're looking into and their expertise is going to be concerned with is what the damage part can tell about the crash itself. one of the things that happened here is flight 447 the france flight on the way from brazil that disappeared in the atlanta. one of the first pieces of debris picked out of the ocean was a food service cart. it had trays inside that collapsed on top of each other. later after they found the cockpit voice recorder they discovered in fact because the plane pancaked into the ocean. it had no forward speed it stalled at altitude. it was not something confirmed by the food service cart. it was not confirmed until they found the data recorders. >> what answers will it give and what outstanding questions will
there be for the mourning families for the 329 people on board. jim bitterman, thank you. the debris continues to wash ashore on reunion island, none of the orether objects have been linked to 370. erin mclaughlin is on scene. >> reporter: the search is on not just here at reunion island but other islands as well. as well as nearby islands over 1200 islands away. the coast guard combing the water for clues. we heard from malaysian's transportation minister tweeting out saying the area is consistent with drift pattern analysis conducted by experts. so they're appealing to authorities for help in identifying any potential debris. over the weekend here on reunion island volunteers working the beaches trying to find any clues of mh 370, but it's difficult, pain staking work.
especially when you consider the ocean is vast and there's plenty of garbage, plenty of room for false alarm. in a nearby town where they located the original flaperon they brought 10 to 12 items. officials discounting them saying they have nothing to do with the planes. people here are dedicated to helping to solve this mystery. >> erin thank you for that. still to come on the newsroom outrage continues to grow over the death of cecil the lion. now another american now standing accused of killing a second lion illegally in april. did you know that meeting your daily protein needs actually helps to support your muscle health? boost® high protein nutritional drink can help you get the protein you need. each serving has 15 grams of protein to help maintain muscle, plus 26 vitamins and minerals including calcium and vitamin d to support strong bones. boost® high protein is the #1 selling high protein
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officials in zimbabwe now accusing a second american of illegally killing a lion. they say a pennsylvania doctor took part in a hunt in april similar to the one that led to the death of cecil, one of the country's most beloved lions. meanwhile, the country of zimbabwe pushing the united states to hand over dentist dr. palmer from minnesota to zimbabwe for trial because they say that he illegally tracked and killed cecil. cnn's david mckenzie is live in johannesburg south africa. let's first address the second case. this is involving an american doctor. why are we just learning about it now if this hunt allegedly happened back in april? >> reporter: well it's a very good question poppy. good morning. you know the zimbabwean parks authorities are saying this hunter in april killed a lion illegally. they say they have arrested the
safari group owner who was in charge of that hunt and they are using the terminology that it was somehow similar to the issue ever cecil the lion being kilgd but killed but it's interesting it's taken so long for this to come out because effectively until this past weekend the rules hadn't really changed very much. if the person had been something illegal, one would have heard about it -- one would think you would hear about it a few months ago but there's been an enormous amount of attention, spotlight on this country, on this issue of hunting, so that's perhaps why they're going through all their records and now naming this doctor right now, but they haven't, in fact put out any allegations specifically against this person. poppy? >> right. or his full name and identity. looking at dr. palmer out of minnesota, the dentist that is wanted in zimbabwe for killing cecil the lion look there's
been a white house petition that's now gotten 200,000 signatures to extradite him. does it look david, like the united states will extradite him to stand trial in zimbabwe? >> reporter: well look never say never, poppy, but in this case experts say it's probably unlikely that the u.s. will hand over dr. palmer to zimbabwe for a couple reasons. one is the nature of this alleged offense. it is of course serious, the fact that it is a poaching offense, could get ten years in zimbabwe but, you know, it's not really in the realm of the kind of issues that would get someone sent out of their home country to a foreign country to face trial. there's also the issue of zimbabwe proper. the justice system there has been accused of rights abuses in the prisons. there are more than 80 people and institutions under sanctions list in zimbabwe. so there is a bit of politics here i think in terms of accusing this second american.
whether it turns out to be that this person was acting illegally or not, you know they are scoring political points in zimbabwe by pointing the finger to the u.s. >> it's a very important point. you have to think about the sort of ruler, rocket ma gaby and whether or not the u.s. wants a u.s. citizen tried in that justice system. i don't believe anyone from the u.s. has ever been extradited to zimbabwe zimbabwe. we'll see what happens in this case and no one has even either directly from dr. palmer since all this broke. david mckenzie, thank you. the next hour of "newsroom" begins after a quick break. and sometimes, i just don't eat the way i should. so i drink boost® to get the nutrition that i'm missing. boost complete nutritional drink has 26 essential vitamins and minerals including calcium and vitamin d to support strong bones and 10 grams of protein to help maintain muscle. all with a great taste. i don't plan on slowing down any time soon.
days airline pilots are reporting a close call with an unmanned drone. this latest incident from last night once again at new york's jfk airport, one of the busiest air spaces in the nation. let's bring in aviation correspondent rene marsh in washington. rene rene, this is an airport i fly in and out of a lot. so many people do. three times in three days these drones spotted by commercial pilots. what's going on? >> reporter: that's what the faa and port authority want to know because obviously there are very clear rules against this sort of thing. we know this latest incident includes the crew of a flight america flight. they were coming in for a landing when they say they saw a drone on the left side of the aircraft. now an investigation is under way. of course this all happened after friday drones got too close for comfort with two other commercial aircraft. again friday we're talking about near one of the nation's busiest air spaces there in new york
city. on friday a drone came within 100 feet of passenger planes. there was a jetblue pilot who said thatthe drone passedjust below the plane's nose. when the jet was flying at an altitude of about 800 to 900 feet and then a delta pilot was preparing to land when that pilot reported seeing a drone below its right wing. i want to get back to this most recent incident. we have sound at the moment this pilot noticed that something wasn't quite right. take a listen. >> there's a drone on the runway. >> okay. >> behind us. 30 feet. >> left or right? >> left side. little black quad copter. >> consider straight ahead. >> say again. >> that drone is on the edge of
the runway. >> all right. so the drone on the edge of the runway. as you know take off and landing the most critical phases of flight. so they are obviously a safety concern. there are rules in place, poppy. you should not be flying a drone within five miles of an airport at least not without notifying the airport or control tower. you're supposed to be flying below 400 feet and, again, away from commercial aircraft. clearly whoever was operating that in full violation of these rules. >> here is the thing though rene people aren't going to do things as often when they have really harsh penalties for doing it it. if authorities track down who is doing this what are the penalties? >> there's civil penalties the faa can lodge against an individual and that has been done before but here is the thing, often times it's very difficult to trace back who is responsible, and i have seen that case happen time and time again in which they've been able to find the actual drone but
they can't find the operator because the operator was not within line of sight of this technology and so there is the difficulty in trying to find who is behind it but we are told that they are actively trying to find out who is behind these latest incidents, poppy. >> absolutely. rene mar, shall, thanks for the reporting. in memphis, tennessee, an all-out search under way at this moment for a killer of a city police officer. a witness used the officer's own news to relay the news that the officer had been shot. >> you are on the same scene. >> it was a traffic stop. it was a traffic stop he was on. the subject bailed out. >> you are advising that the officer is down or the suspect? >> call the ambulance!
call the ambulance! >> the ambulance is already en route. >> you can hear the des tration in that person's voice calling for help for officer sean bolton a five-year veteran also a marine corps veteran of the iraq war. he was fatally shot during that traffic stop on saturday night. he apparently interrupted a drug transaction involving a small amount of marijuana. they have identified his killer as this man, 29-year-old tremaine wilbourn. he was recently relessed from prits prison after serving time for a bank robbery. >> he is out on supervised release by the u.s. western district court for a 121 month sentence for robbery of a banking institution. he is considered to be armed and dangerous. >> nick valencia is live with us this morning. and, nick this is just such a hard time for this police
department in particular. three officers killed over the last four years, right? >> reporter: yeah. good morning, poppy. certainly a terrible time. the mayor took a moment on saturday night during a press conversation to address a rise in gun violence there in the city. three officers gunned down in the line of duty in the last four years. 29-year-old tremaine wilbourn is the suspect in the murder of officer sean bolton. a 33-year-old, bolton was said to have noticed a car parked illegal just after 9:00 p.m. he approached the car and that's when the suspect got out of the car, a struggle ensighed and he allegedly shot the officer you're looking at there on your screen multiple times. a witness in the area, a resident in the area heard the gun shots, ran towards the scene and used the officer's radio to phone back in to 911 but it was too late. officer bolton was pronounced dead when he arrived at the hospital. a $10,000 reward being offered for information leading to this suspect. >> i'm wondering if they have
any leads at this time? >> reporter: a person of interest was brought in custody sometime yesterday afternoon. he was said to be the driver of that car. we don't know the relationship between wilbourn and the driver but shortly after the driver was released from questioning, that they named 29-year-old tremaine wilbourn as the suspect. no charges have been 2350i8d against filed against the driver. police need your help finding this man. if you have any information, please call your local authorities. poppy? >> very sad story. nick valencia. thank you. to california we go. it is almost -- well look at the pictures. it looks like a volcanic e runs, eruption eruption doesn't it? there are nearly two dozen wildfires burning across california right now racing across drought-parched landscape from one end to the other. the most ferocious, the rocky fire. it goes more ominous by the hour. thousands of people have fled
their homes and fire officials are already issuing dire warnings for the day ahead. let's go straight to stephanie elam in california north of sacramento really in the thick of it. what are you seeing stephanie? >> reporter:. >> i'm going like this because i can't hear stephanie. for our viewers we will try to reconnect with stephanie who is there in one of the hardest hit parts of california from these wildfires. once we get stephanie, we will bring you that live report. still to come in the "newsroom," also president obama preparing to announce his plan to fight climate change and already republicans fighting him tooth and nail on it. that's next. no student's ever photographed mean ms. colegrove. but your dell 2-in-1 laptop gives you the spunk for an unsanctioned selfie. that's that new gear feeling. get this high performance laptop bundle for only $399. office depot officemax. gear up for school. gear up for great.
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we now have stephanie elam with us from california north of sacramento where she's monitoring more than two dozen major wildfires there. stephanie, what are you seeing? >> reporter: right, and i can update you right now, poppy, about the rocky fire where we are. i can now tell you that they know it's been 60,000 acres that have been burned. the containment though going up to 12% and that's good news. part of how they're doing it is back burning. what you see behind me is where they were doing some back burning yesterday. we were watching them light fires to burn down this dry underbrush and the reason why they're doing that that's literally fighting fire with fire. they're burning this area so that it's no longer fuel for any wildfire coming through here. it's already burned and they can contain it along these roadways. the other thing they're doing, they're using bulldozers. they have got firefighters out there on the line working to break through the brush so that there's a line that will stop this fire from spreading.
that's what they're working on doing so that there will be no more buildings burnt but already we know there have been some 50 structures that have been damaged, destroyed i should say, half of those being homes. they're working to try to keep other buildings safe and all those evacuees to allow them to get back in there. right now 60,000 acres, that's a lot of acreage we're talking about that has been burned in this rocky fire and so much of it ballooning over the weekend, just really taking off. >> the last thing that drought-riddled california needs right now. stephanie elam thank you for that. to politics now. republican presidential hopefuls are blasting president obama's ambitious new plan to combat climate change. some already threatening to take it to court, and the president hasn't even officially unveiled it yet. that happens later this afternoon. let's go to the white house. michelle kosinski is live there for us. michelle the white house put out this extensive plan and they said it's going to save lives, it's going to save americans an
average of $85 a month on their energy bill. republicans like marco rubio say no way, no how. it's going to cost americans more. jeb bush calling it irresponsible and overreaching. how big of a fight is this going to be? >> reporter: this is a huge debate that's really just the beginning. this is going to be interesting to watch. it maybe doesn't have the emotional and religious aspects of the debate over the planned parenthood thing obviously, but this really does strike to the core of what people believe on this. first of all, do you believe in climate change? do you believe it's happening? do you believe that man is causing that and then it has multiple layers in that many say, well why should the u.s. pinch industry here when other developing countries are just belching out more and more pollution? so with all of these elements thrown in there, it ends up being pretty complicated but pretty interesting. so the white house is really putting out this big push starting now. and you're right, they kind of unveiled everything in the lead up to the president's
announcement this afternoon saying that this is going to cut carbon emissions from power plants in particular 32% over 2005 levels by the year 2030. and they have this medical aspect too, that it's going to prevent premature death by a factor of 90% over 2005. it's going to prevent childhood asthma attacks by 90,000 cases. that it's going to grow jobs that it's going to cut energy bills. but the critics are saying exactly the opposite on some of those points. here is jeb bush as one example. >> i think it's a disaster. it's taking -- it's typical of the obama administration taking executive power he doesn't have. for the first time they've extended this to require states in a very coercive way and a very confusing, convoluted way to deal with this issue, and i believe it's unconstitutional. >> reporter: so it's not as if the white house wasn't prepared
for some of these groups and some of these people in particular slamming the plan so they are ready with an answer to it all and we'll hear from the president directly in just a couple hours now, poppy. >> we will. it will certainly be a big, big fight. michelle kosinski live at the white house, thank you. the president's plan as you just heard from michelle to push on climate change is just one of the big headlines he's grabbed and some might say is a very controversial fight, issues he's tackling in what is the fourth quarter of his presidency. it is all part of what he calls his bucket list. remember remember this moment from the white house correspondents dinner? >> after the midterm elections my advisers asked me mr. president, do you have a bucket list? and i said well i have something that rhymes with bucket list. take executive action on immigration, bucket. new climate regulations?
bucket. it's the right thing to do. >> you remember that john avlon? cnn political analyst and editor in chief of the daily beast. seriously, that's the first thing i thought of yesterday when i saw this climate proposal announced was here we go. >> bucket yeah. poppy, i mean this has been an extraordinary fourth quarter of a presidency. traditionally fourth quarters of presidencies are considered lame duck times. that's been the stereotype that a lot of predecessors have been laden with but this president has decided to throw that idea off and seems liberated to pursue a lot of progressive agenda items he had been restrained from doing when he or his party were facing re-election. and these range from cuba to this ambitious action on climate change. the question will be as you see the heat he's taking the fight he's going to face not only the political fights but the legal
challenges from a number of key states. so this really is a deep divide between the two parties. it's deeper than it was a decade ago. we should underscore that. but this is going to be a major fight played out in the courts as well as the political arena. >> all right. also though when you talk about his legacy you have got the executive action on immigration, you've got iran you've got cuba you also have the issue of race in this country, right? and you have to talk about that. donald trump yesterday in his interview with abc talking about the president and race saying, i think he set a very poor standard a very low bar and i think it's a shame for the african-american people. talk to me about this president and race and his legacy. >> well you know, it's really quite something to have president obama be lectured on racial relations by donald trump, but let's put that evident absurdity aside for a second. look this president obviously not only the first african-american president but has been leading a much more complicated nuanced national
conversation of race about race in the wake of ferguson in the wake of baltimore, the eric garner case and so many others. and so i think the president has been taking sort of an ap race conversation to the american people in the way a lot of republican candidates are deeply uncomfortable with because it's simply more complicated and nuanced than the broad bromides they're more comfortable with and donald trump talking about race is absurd on its face. >> big picture, a president obama rewriting the rules for a so-called lame duck? and i just wonder what you think about this strategy for future presidents. >> yeah. you know i love that point because it's so important. you know so many of the ideas we inherit may be rooted in history but especially when presidents or people in executive positions can throw them off simply by acting and thinking differently. it's significant that this president's poll numbers haven't descended to the quarter of the electorate approval that george w. bush had in the fourth quarter of his presidency but he really has acted liberated.
he's purr tusueing long term agenda items he thinks are the right thing to do. it's clear he's alienated the centrist moderate part of the party. obviously the democrats are going to have to, you know be held to account for some of them come 2016 but there's little sign that they are deeply divisive in the way some folks who are afraid of their shadow might have feared. >> john avlon with his bucket list for us. thank you, john. still to come a trump campaign adviser out of a job after racially charged facebook posts surfaced but could this latest controversy actually give trump a boost going into the debate on thursday? (vo) after 50 years of designing cars for crash survival, subaru has developed our most revolutionary feature yet. a car that can see trouble...
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federal agents are joining the baltimore police homicide unit trying to help them fight the unprecedented level of violence in that city right now. according to "the baltimore sun," there have been at least two murders already this month, 45 murders in july the most in any month since 1972. in total this year of 191. cnn's boris sanchez is following the latest from baltimore with me here. it's incredibly disturbing especially considering what that city has gone through in the last six months. why the decision to bring in federal agents from so many different agencies? >> partly because the number is so eye popping. already in three days of august there have been 11 people shot in baltimore, two of them fatally, and in response officials are looking to launch b fed b-f-e-d. a new collaborative effort between five federal agencies the baltimore police department the fbi, thea tf the dea, the u.s. marshals offering two agents each to help with the bulk of homicide cases in
baltimore. the atf, for example, offering to trace shell casings and identify suspects. the fbi meantime helping out with intelligence gathering. officials say they really hope this works. >> we expect to enjoy successes with bfed. we know our federal law enforcement partners bring tools to bear that we necessarily don't enjoy, federal assets and other federal investigative techniques we think will help us close more homicide cases. >> now, to be fair this is a nationwide problem. many other cities are also seeing an uptick in the number of homicides. washington, d.c. chicago, dallas just to name a few. >> how rare is it to see so many different agencies sort of combining here and going into a city in a situation like this. not a terrorism case buts is like this. >> it's not rare for them to help out and lend resources in specific cases like the prison
break we saw, but for such a broad effort a multitude of cases, is rare. >> loug how long >> how long do they say and how do they determine success? boris sanchez, thank you. with just days to go for the first republican debate and after weeks of taking aim at his rivals in the race for the white house is donald trump scaling back expectations a little bit? you know he said i'm not a good debater. i'm not about debating, i'm about jobs. after tweeting he plans to be respectful this thursday night in the debate he said this in an interview on sunday with abc. >> well, i'm not a debater. these politicians, i always say they're all talk no action. they debate all the time. they go out and debate every night. i don't debate. i have created tremendous jobs i built a great company. i do a lot of things and maybe my whole life is a debate in a way, but the fact is i'm not a debater and they are, but with that being said i look forward
to it. we'll see what happens. who knows. >> i can tell you one thing, a lot of folks will be watching this debate. trump making those remarks. there's a new national poll showing him firmly ahead in the republican race 19% of republican primary voters backing him. that is compared to 15% who support scott walker 14% who support jeb bush. ben carson and ted cruz round out the top five. let's talk about it. cnn politics reporter erer m.j. lee and nia-malika henderson. the stakes are high for donald trump. if he tones it down will his supporters be upset or will it give us another surprise from trump to talk about? >> it almost sounds like he's trying to downplay how much he's preparing for this debate downplay sort of the expectations that he's setting for himself which is an understandable strategy. he has never done this before. this is his first time on the debate stage. so this makes sense. i think from everything we've
seen from the last couple of weeks from donald trump we know that his strength and his forte is going to be these one-line zingers and punches he throws at some of his rivals. i think for him to say he may not be on the offensive, i think that is likely exactly how he's going to be. i think when you're thinking about some ever his weaknesses and potential sort of weak spots on the debate stage we have seen this over and over again the last couple of weeks when he has particularly sat down and extended sit down interviews, he doesn't have sort of a deep policy sort of proposals and details when it comes to issues that he loves to talk about, issues like immigration, issues like health care. he likes to talk a good game and talk about how the obama administration has really failed on these issues but then when he's pressed a little bit more and asked to share specific details, he isn't really ready to go there yet. so i think some of his gop rivals are going to understand
that and will probably try to highlight that on the debate stage to show the audience, you know this is not someone who, you know may not particularly be ready to really be a serious candidate yet. >> nia-malika to you. this abc interview with donald trump yesterday getting a lot of attention, particularly for this part where he addressed the controversial tweet he made about president obama in november and the future for other black presidents. let's roll it. >> so let me ask you about something you tweeted last year. you said of barack obama, sadly, because president obama has done such a poor job as president, you won't see another black president for generations. what did you mean by that? >> i think that he has set a very low bar, and i think it's a shame for the african-american people and by the way, he has done nothing for african-americans. you look at what's gone on with their income levels, you look at what's gone on with their youth. i thought he would be a great cheerleader for this country.
i thought he'd do a fabulous job for the african-american citizens of this country. he has done nothing. >> nia-malika what does that do to him as a candidate? >> well, you know, it tells us who trump is as a candidate and, remember he is king of the birthers in many ways if you flash back to 2011. this is the kind of rhetoric about the president, questioning whether or not he should have really gotten into those ivy league schools, questioning whether or not he was, in fact born in america. so he's always had this kind of approach in talking about the president. his talking about the president in terms of how he's done for african-americans, it's very much in line with what you heard from other republicans when they were reaching out to african-american voters in 2012, they were making the same kind of appeals and criticisms of obama, those same kind of appeals to african-american voters saying are you better off now under this president than you were four years ago. but i think he is sounding a
different note than the republican party more generally. they very much want to expand their appeal to african-americans. you heard reince priebus last week down at the urban league talking about african-american voters jeb bush was there as well. he hasn't been a candidate so far who has made that kind of outreach. part of his portfolio even though he does say that he was win the african-american vote, win the latino vote that seems to be very unlikely given all of his racialized rhetoric. >> he asserted that again at the end of the abc interview saying i will win the african-american vote i will win the hispanic vote. very quickly to you, m.j. his campaign fired sam nunnberg for racially charged facebook posts he say he did not post. what does that do on the issue of race and donald trump as a candidate? >> as you clarified, these are facebook post that the aide said he did not write.
i think that didn't really matter to the trump campaign that gets it only has a couple days before trump takes the debate stage which is going to be a very important moment for him and for him proving himself to a wider audience. i think that the trump campaign understands that its gop rivals have a long list of attacks that they can use against trump, whether it's comments on immigration or john mccain, so i think this was not one more thing they wanted on that list. >> nia-malika henderson, m.j. lee, thank you very much. still to come sometime this week investigators will begin trying to determine if that piece of plane debris found on an island is indeed part of mh-370. the victims' families want and deserve answers as soon as possible. a new season brings a new look. a chance to try something different. this summer, challenge your preconceptions and experience a cadillac for yourself. ♪
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the wreckage found earlier is confirmed to be the flaperon from a boeing 777. >> that was a malaysian transport minister earlier this morning confirming the debris found on a remote island in the indian ocean is in fact from a boeing 777, the same type of plane that went missing 17 months ago. flight 370. french officials will try to determine if that wreckage came from that doomed flight. all of this doing very little to ease the pain felt by those grieving families. will ripley has the latest from beijing. >> reporter: anger is growing for the families of malaysian airlines flight mh-370 demanding this meeting with chinese transport officials. you just say whatever you want she says. more than 500 days on they're tired of crying tired of waiting, waiting that's not
over even if debris suspected to be from the missing plane offers new clues. >> just that -- still cannot help you to find the plane and it still cannot help you find the truth about what happened and why. >> reporter: steve wang hasn't spoken his mother's name since the day she and 238 others disappeared. wang keeps her photo private along with her last message asking him to bring her coat to the airport. do you still listen to the voice mail she left you? >> sometimes sometimes. >> reporter: when did you listen to it last? >> on wednesday. >> reporter: on wednesday when you heard about the debris. >> yeah. >> reporter: new evidence washing ashore on reunion island forces families to face a new wave of agony. i feel so sorry for my two grandsons. what have they done wrong asks this woman? china's one child policy allowed
jong and her husband just one daughter who was flying home with their only son-in-law. not a minute has passed without me thinking of them she says. jong says she once tried getting information at the malaysian airlines office. police detained her for eight hours. more than 150 chinese were on mh-370. china's communist party discourages families from gathering and protesting as they did after the plane vanished. the assistance center in beijing closed. what do you need? >> the truth. >> reporter: wang says the discovery of suspect the mh-370 debris doesn't bring closure. >> only closure will come at the time they find the plane, find everybody, and find the truth. >> reporter: his biggest fear the search will slow. the spotlight will fade and the families of 239 people will be
left as they are today, still waiting. will ripley, cnn, beijing. >> heart breaks for those families. let's talk more about this with cnn safety analyst david soucie and cnn contributor david gallow director of special projects for the woods hole ocean institute. can experts term what might have happened to the plane from the information they can get from a piece of wreckage? >> well, not really give information as to what happened. what it might do is improve their ability to search for the aircraft because of the fact that it may narrow the search area if indeed this part came off of the aircraft as a result of a rapid descent. so there's something that can be gained from this certainly. >> but certainly not. a lot of the information they need is what happened especially in that cockpit and they need the voice recorders
for that. david gallow to you, when you talk about the search area for mh-370 if indeed this piece is confirmed to be from mh-370, what does this tell us about the search area? does it help? does it move the search area because as you see on your screen this piece, 2300 miles from the main search area. >> hi poppy. well it floated there almost assuredly it floated there from wherever the plane impacted the water. if it is fromm h mh-370. as david said it may help narrow the search area it may shift it a tiny bit but it's not going to change the overall plan of where they're working now 2300 or 2500 miles away across the other side of the indian ocean. >> when you look david gallo, at this would you expect a lot of the wreckage to be together in one place or would you expect that much of it has floated as perhaps this piece did 2,300
miles? >> well it almost follows exactly air france. within a week after the air france disaster air france 447, there were thousands of small bits and big bits of plane on the surface of the ocean, but it wasn't for two more years that we actually found the main body of the wreckage which had sunk to the bottom and i would imagine that that's the case here too. to find the black boxes, the engines, the landing gear these are all heavy things that would sink to the bottom and that's the goal is to find that bit of wreckage that sank down to the bottom of the ocean. >> david soucie a lot of us are puzzled as to why the people analyzing this part in france at that laboratory are waiting until wednesday to start doing that. it arrived over the weekend and these family members are desperate for answers. why wait? >> i don't think they're waiting, poppy. it's mostly about the fact that this is a forensic investigation and it is for criminal investigation at this point as well. it may very well be a criminal
investigation, so therefore, everyone who even touches it, the chain of custody has to be recorded. each person going into that laboratory, i went to that laboratory myself on occasion and when you go in there it takes a day and a half just to get cleared to be the person that goes in there, the background checks everything. >> you were there, you have a unique perspective, can you tell us a little bit about the laboratory? >> as i mentioned, it is a forensic laboratory. these are the best in the world. the people that are there don't mess around. we're not talking about some kind of just observational opinions like what we're able to give from afar. but this is a very in-depth forensic investigation. they'll be able to tell us extra stress each piece of the metal has been under and they will look at it and tell us how it was torn from the aircraft. >> thank you for the expertise. we'll bring you more answers to these major questions as soon as we have them. just ahead here in the "newsroom," future funding of planned parenthood could be on the line today in the senate. a live report from washington next.
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the white house addressed this josh earnest saying a writer that would defund planned harnt parenthood would draw a presidential veto. what's the overall plan here from the republicans that want to see planned parenthood totally defunded from federal money? >> reporter: i think there's a big difference between a plan, an objective and policy at this stage and there's a difference between messaging and policy. so what we're seeing right now is an uphill battle for this measure, not only because republican leadership needs 60 votes to get this thing over the finish line but also because of as you mentioned, the president's veto threat, but what is clear is they feel like they have to do something simply because of the videos that you mentioned which anecdotally talking to some republicans around the capitol, it seems it's really picked up steam at least on the right. so the question of messaging, the question of doing something because now republicans are in control of both the house and
the senate and their constituency expects them to set the agenda. planned parenthood for its part is in the position of defending itself along with a lot of the pro-abortion forces and planned parenthood pointing out that it's mainly contraception that that organization does only 3% of their services are directed to abortion clients. at the bottom line this is the type of situation that you're going to hear a lot more about here on capitol hill simply because we're moving into an election year. there's also the question of whether those 18 republicans in the house along with people like ted cruz over in the senate side can push this thing very far once we get down to the issue of funding for the government at the end of september. expect to hear a lot more of it. there's not a lot of hope here that this thing is going to pass tonight, poppy. >> and will this ultimately lead to a fight over another potential government shutdown?
we'll see. joe johns thank you. checking some other top stories for you, tonight 14 gop presidential candidates not including donald trump will take part in the first voters forum on c span. the forum is not a debate. it's a chance for the candidates to answer a series of brief questions from local radio hosts. that is at 7:00 eastern tonight. more than 100 people have died thousands more have been displaced because of heavy monsoon rain and flooding in india. officials are now saying the situation is quote, grim as people are flocking trying to find shelter in relief camps. rescue and disaster forces have been deployed. they're working to help those people in very hard hit areas. still to come in the "newsroom," more than one in every ten people in puerto rico is unemployed. that coupled with a huge $70 billion in outstanding debt leads to another crisis for puerto rico. you're going to want to hear this because it matters for american investors.
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puerto rico is very likely to go into default by the end of today after the island missed a $58 million debt payment over the weekend. the governor there warning the economy is dangerously close to entering a, quote, death spiral. let's talk about it with cnn chief business correspondent christine romans. bottom line they've had a lot of problems for a long time, high unemployment. what does it mean for american investors. >> it's a difficult situation. a lot of american investors who may have had exposure to this
once its debt was downgraded to junk status a lot of bond funds couldn't hold it but this was something that had really good tax treatment so a lot of people had exposure to puerto rico. this has been called america's greece because it's right here. this is a big problem. a lot of debt some $70 billion in debt that's going to have to be restructured and really the people of puerto rico have been bearing the brunt of this so far. you talk about the unemployment rate it's like 12% there, double what it is here. >> and that's the official number. >> very very difficult. they've had a brain drain. they have people leaving for a long long time so they have a tax base that's shrinking as its debt is going up, poverty is rising and the age of its population is rising. that makes it that much more difficult in terms of the math of running a country. >> what about the entity here. when you talk about this some are pointing to a potential strategic default on this payment because it's not like they're defaulting to a hedge fund that could sue them. this is sort of like a big pension fund that a lot of individual folks paid into. >> right. so these are individual people in the country, in puerto rico.
look in puerto rico people through their credit unions have exposure to this and they're less likely make to sue than maybe a big, rich hedge fund. when you look at our story on cnn money, we wrap through all the different angles. it's the people of puerto rico not necessarily wall street banks, that will suffer most by a default here. so this is a very difficult situation, and it's a reminder i think when you look at public debt and public finances, we've looked at some other states that have had big issues, but the sats have different treatments than puerto rico. puerto rico technically can't go to the imf like a country could -- >> like greece. >> but it's also not officially a state. >> and state like detroit filed bankruptcy. >> so it's really in a unique position here. the governor there has said that the economy is in a death spiral. he said we don't have the money. now you will see them starting to strategically pay certain bills and not other bills as they try to figure out how to work this out. >> it's a great way to put it.
a sad reality though but our greece basically. >> right. that's right. >> christine romans thank you very much. go to cnnmoney.com. you can learn all about why this matters for you right there. puerto rico's crisis in two minutes. thank you so much for being with me today. i'm poppy harlow. carol costello is back tomorrow. "at this hour with berman and bolduan" starts now. a new close call in the skies. for the third time in days a drone gets dangerously close to a passenger jet and just now the government sends a bulletin warning these drones could be used as terrorist weapons. the search for a coward. that's what the police director says. a manhunt is under way for the person who shot and killed an officer during a traffic stop. and you think the republican debates will be interesting? try hillary clinton versus joe biden. why the vice president is considering a run and how he would shake up the entire race.