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5:00 eastern in the "cnn newsroom." we begin with republican presidential candidate donald trump at the center of another political controversy. this time, it's a comment he made last night to my colleague don lemon about fox news host and debate moderator megyn kelly. listen. >> she came out there reading her little script and trying to, you know, be tough and be sharp, and when you meet her you realize she's not very tough and she's not very sharp. she's zippo. >> she did push you. pushed a lot of people. but what is it with you and megyn kelly? >> i just don't respect her as a journalist. i have no respect for her. i don't think she's very good. she's highly overrated. when i came out there, what am i doing? i'm not getting paid for this. i go out there and they start saying lift up your arm and you know, i didn't know there would be 24 million people. if i knew it was going to be a big crowd, because i get big
crowds, i get big ratings, they call me the ratings machine, so i have, you know, she gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions and you know, you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever. but she was in my opinion, she was off-base and by the way, not in my opinion, in the opinion of hundreds of thousands of people. the great mike wallace was a friend of mine. in fact, he interviewed me on "60 minutes." it was phenomenal. it was a phenomenal "60 minutes." but he was a friend of mine. he was a tough cookie. he was great. the son is only a tiny fraction of mike, believe me. there is a big difference between mike wallace and chris wallace because i watched him last night. blood pouring out of his eyes, too. >> in response to the blood comment, a gathering of conservative activists in atlanta disinvited trump to their meeting today.
the organizer of red state.com erick erickson saying he's not a professional politician and is known for being a blunt talker but there are even lines blunt talkers and professional politicians should not cross. decency is one of those lines. let's talk about this with kate bonner, who co-authored "trump, the art of the comeback." you are a big supporter of donald trump. you came on a few weeks ago and said he is anything but sexist, he has been incredibly respectful to all the women you witnessed, including yourself working with him. is this a trump you haven't seen before? >> this is a trump i haven't seen before but remember, i worked with trump one-on-one in a confidential setting co-authoring a book together. i wasn't that familiar with the trump that we're seeing on air. it's not exactly apples to apples. but when i -- i did watch the debate. i have seen watched it again. i saw don lemon's show. my overall comment here is he's not doing himself any favors. this is a comment about a woman who actually is quite brilliant,
who has an enormous body of work behind her. she is smart, she's sassy, she's beautiful and she goes right at it. and i think he should have maybe been a little more prepared for that in advance, knowing that those were going to be the types of questions she was going to ask. to me, it's not -- it's a little bit disheartening to see that this is where we ended up. i know as a woman, i don't want to hear about that. i don't want to hear about blood coming out of people's eyes and certainly not what it morphed into on mr. lemon's show. i'm sure men don't want to hear that content either. >> right. let me read you a passage from the book that you co-authored with trump. quote, this is trump speaking, there's nothing i love more than women but they are really a lot different than portrayed. they are far worse than men, far more aggressive and boy, can they be smart. let's give credit where credit is due. let's salute women for their tremendous power which most men are afraid to admit they have. what's different from that trump
to this trump? >> he was a completely different person that i worked with privately back then. one of the other quotes he said, i brought this to the show today, i'm not a crusader for feminism and i am not against it. i am just oblivious to a person's gender when it comes to hiring and firing people. the trump that i worked with, it was all about meritocracy. i never even felt as though i was a woman working for him, that i was a co-author/woman writing his book. i felt like an equal. he treated me as an equal. again, he kind of gave me enough rope to hang myself after he decided that he trusted me. today, he's become i think most people would say this, he's become more extreme in his views. >> right. i do want to ask about some of these poll numbers on women and trump. we have to wait until the next block to do that. stay with me. i do also want to talk about this major conservative event happening today in atlanta. donald trump was supposed to be there. he was to speak at 8:00 tonight.
no longer invited. it's called the red state gathering. mark preston, cnn politics executive editor is with us to talk about news this afternoon from team trump. that is that the top political advisor on that team, camp trump, no more. >> reporter: yeah. there is a he said/he said situation going on right now internally in the trump campaign. not only is he having to deal with the adversity of this comment he made last night, but they just told us several hours ago that they had fired the senior advisor, roger stone. now, stone has come out and said that is not the case. in fact, he had resigned and he said he resigned because the campaign was getting off the core message being beset by all these controversies. the trump campaign says that roger stone was using the campaign for his own personal publicity. a really he said/he said situation going on there. >> what about the people who are there? most people supportive of erick erickson disinviting trump to the event or are they frustrated and think trump should have been
welcomed despite what he said? >> reporter: well, depends who you talk to. there is certainly overwhelmingly people understand why erickson decided not to invite donald trump but having said that, he still has supporters. in fact, we ran into one a short time ago and this is what he had to say. >> why did he have to interpret it because she's a woman? that is an assumption he should have never said. they made an assumption and they were wrong to make an assumption because someone said they were offended. i am offended that they are being offended has allowed them to dictate to this group who they will invite and who they will disinvite. >> reporter: i have to tell you he wasn't the only one to say that. i met a woman from indianapolis, had driven down from indianapolis to come to red state. she said she's not supporting trump for the presidential bid.
however, they said he should have been invited and his words were misinterpreted and misconstrued. there you have it. there is definitely a line, battle lines being drawn between trump supporters and everybody else. >> what about with his opponents? you heard jeb bush onstage at the event where you are saying trump should apologize. mike huckabee talked to you. what did he say? >> reporter: he did. mike huckabee had spoke to the organization earlier today. we had a few minutes to talk to him about it. this is what he had to say about donald trump's comments. >> you know, megyn kelly was a colleague of mine for six and a half years when i was at fox. she's one of the most remarkable people i know, intellectually unsurpassed as a broadcast journalist, she has great integrity. so i'm going to stand for megyn kel kelly. >> reporter: you think it was inappropriate? did he cross the line with that comment? >> i certainly would never say anything about a person like that and i hope he apologizes
because i think that he should. >> reporter: there you have the former arkansas governor seeking the republican nomination adding to the people who are seeking it as well, who think donald trump should apologize to megyn kelly including the likes of rick perry, george pataki, several others as well. poppy? >> mark preston reporting from the red state event in atlanta, thank you. coming up tonight, in less than an hour's time, 6:00 eastern, the man himself will sit down with me, join me for his first interview on cnn, roger stone, trump's friend for 35 years, top political advisor, just out of the camp today. he will tell me his side of the story ahead. next, women make up more than half of voters in america. how will trump's latest comment impact his chances for the women's vote? americans. we're living longer than ever. as we age, certain nutrients... ...become especially important. from the makers of one a day fifty-plus.
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criticized two women and one of those comments he made cost him an appearance at this weekend's conservative gathering. he criticized megyn kelly, fox news anchor and moderator of the debate on thursday night, calling her a lightweight, retweeting a tweet that called her a bimbo. also he criticized fellow republican hopeful carly fiorina, brushing her off as a failed former senate candidate who is in his words, not going to win. back with me, kate bonner, who co-authored a 1997 book with donald trump and also with me, cnn political commentator, hilary rosen. thank you for being here. gloria borger wrote this fascinating piece on cnn.com this week and she talked about this and the comments about women in saying it's not that it's a premeditated war on women as the democratic party apparatus likes to dub it. it's more of a head scratching did you just say that process of flubs that slowly seeps into the ether. do you agree with that assessment? >> i think it's right. in fact, the gop has tried over
and over again to quote, fix their problem with women. they give their candidates special women training and all sorts of things about how to talk about women. but there's a fundamental problem and if everybody focuses on donald trump and he ends up out of this race, the republicans i think still do have a problem with women. when marco rubio at the debate says it doesn't matter if someone has been raped, that woman should still be forced by the government to carry that child to term, women just look at that, that's head scratching. when scott walker says yes, even if my wife were to have a life-threatening problem and i would still want to risk that life to save an unborn child, women just do not believe this. they don't want the government in there, they don't want these republican men telling them how
to run their lives. >> actually, if you look at some of the numbers here, it's interesting because a recent cnn/orc poll found that the most popular candidate among gop registered female voters is donald trump, coming in at 15%. >> i was very surprised by those numbers. i thought it was really interesting. as i was saying before the show, i have done my own informal voting survey among the women that i know. i worked for a big financial services firm, global, and just asking them, and there's one thing that i keep hearing over and over again is that i don't want to be considered a woman voter. i don't want to be a protected class or i don't want to be considered as a minority. i just want to be considered to be a voter. i think that that will resonate more and more what hilary rosen was saying, women want to be a voice but they also want to be an independent voice, not necessarily a collective. >> why do you think it is that we're constantly, i mean we as a
collective, a society or the media, if you will, jump to wow, i wonder what this is going to do to the woman vote that he said something that many think is offensive to women? should we be asking? aren't men upset about this, too? >> yeah, it's a really good question. that's why erick erickson from red state, the guy who disinvited donald trump, is somebody who i disagree with on substantive issues, on almost everything, as he and i have been on the opposite sides of cnn for many years. but the one thing i really respect him on is that as a man he stood up and said you know what, it is really unacceptable to be talking about people that way. and i just think that we're going to get to a place where the conversation has to be smarter. i think frankly, when hillary clinton is facing whoever that gop candidate is, the fact that she's a woman won't be the most obvious thing. it will have to be about where
each of these folks want to take the country. you know, so good for erick erickson as a guy to stand up and say we're going to have a better discourse than that. >> kate u know donald trump very well. you co-authored the book with him in 1997. some say that his comments last night to don lemon about megyn kelly bleeding from the eyes and from quote, wherever, that even the woman who will join me next hour, mel robbins, cnn commentator says she thinks he was talking about move on, wherever. interpret it as you will, would donald trump rather be talking about this and being in the headlines and leading hour after hour of newscasts or would he rather be talking about substantive issues? because that's something we haven't heard a lot of his answers and plans. >> here's the thing about donald trump. i feel like i know him well enough to say that the last thing he wanted was for this flub to turn into what it turned into, late night on don lemon's show. i will say about donald trump, sometimes our assets are always
our flaws. he has an intense attention to detail. when i was writing the book i saw it over and over again, that he was the one that found the mistake, he was the one that found the contractor who was double billing. that also can be a flaw in the sense that sometimes he seizes on one detail and won't let it go. if i were his campaign advisor i would say you said it on the debate, stop, no more talking about this. let's just leave it in the green room and certainly no tweeting it 3:48 a.m. >> thank you both so much. donald trump will be speaking tomorrow morning to jake tapper. he will be a guest on "state of the union" 9:00 a.m. eastern only right here on cnn. coming up next, it has been a year since the death of teenager michael brown in ferguson, missouri. ferguson has become a lightning rod for the conversation on race and policing in america. next you hear from the new ferguson police chief about what has to change going forward in that city.
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police officer, killed michael brown, an unarmed 18-year-old. as the city tries to repair its image, a new police chief is leading the way. cnn's sara sidner spoke with him. she was in ferguson for months on end covering all the protests and joins me live. hi, sara. >> reporter: hi, poppy. we spoke with the new interim police chief and there's a lot of talk about whether real change has happened here. he says it has and there will be more to come. >> i just really wish we had peace. we don't need this. no one needs this. it's not just the police officers i'm concerned about. i'm concerned about everyone. >> reporter: this is the man leading the most scrutinized police department in america right now. the ferguson, missouri police department. the city where an explosion of anger against police tactics erupted a year ago when officer darren wilson killed unarmed teenager michael brown after the two scuffled at the police vehicle.
when you were looking from afar at what was happening here in ferguson one year ago, what was your take on all that was going on here in ferguson? >> it bothered me. it really did. >> reporter: what was it that bothered you? what disturbed you? >> to see that divide that was evident in this community. that's what bothered me. it just didn't feel like we should be this way in america. but i understand that there are differences and i wanted to be part of making a change. >> failure to disperse may result in arrests or other actions. >> reporter: that change coming in big part after the streets of ferguson looked more like a war zone than small city america. >> look out! >> reporter: protesters took to the streets for more than 100 days straight with sometimes violent outbursts. their persistence influencing the department of justice to investigate. the investigation cleared officer darren wilson in the
shooting but issued a damning report on the department as a whole, saying it helped create the racial tensions by unfairly targeting, searching and ticketing black people to help fill the city's coffers. what happens if your bosses, the city manager, comes to you and says we need you to generate more money, we need you to ticket more people. what do you say? >> i won't do that. >> reporter: you will just say no? >> i will. and they won't do that, either. i've had conversations about the new leadership. i didn't sign up as a police officer to go out and write tickets to generate funds. that is not our job. >> reporter: this year a new law has been passed to stop missouri cities from using their police departments as atms, lowering what they can make on traffic fines. for ferguson that means a reduction from a maximum of 30% to 12.5% of its operating revenue. the new chief says his officers are eager to move forward. black officers have been hired
though still make up only 10% of the force. while the community they serve is 67% black. does ferguson have a racist view? is there a problem within the department? >> i think that in the department there are individuals that don't understand the community but in fact, there have been some issues with respect to having race problems. there has been. and i think that the police department is doing a good job, has done a good job at getting rid of people that have caused those types of problems. >> reporter: what you're seeing here, though, is there are still protests. there are still people who are trying to make more changes. there are a group of people who want to see the mayor go. they have tried to recall so far. those have failed. they are saying he is part of the problem but the city says that all of the people who were
highly criticizing the department of justice report, they are all gone, replaced by african-americans though when you look at the beginning of their titles, many of those titles say interim in front of the title. lot of folks saying that's just temporary and they want to see if real change happens here. >> absolutely. and everyone will be watching. sara sidner, thank you for that reporting. coming up next, the discussion on ferguson continues. my next guest says for this city to heal it must begin and continue with a long conversation. what he says the dialogue should be and how it could change a generation.
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country. that poll shows that 53% of white americans believe more needs to be done to achieve racial equality. among republicans, 41% said they believe racism is a big problem in this country. that is significantly higher than in 2010 when only 17% held the same view. joining me to talk more about this, dr. david anderson, founder and president of bridge leader network. you spent time in ferguson. you have worked with the community on this. what do you make of these numbers, 50% of americans think racism is a big problem. that's up from 26% in 2009. what do the numbers tell us? >> it tells us that what we have been dealing with for so many years has finally become so public that now we have to actually face it and have a conversation. in some ways it's a good thing. the sad thing about it is it's elementary to a lot of people when so many of us have lived at a graduate level in this area for so long. >> you mean people who have experienced it. >> people who have experienced it, lived it for so long, they
are tired of dealing with it, frustrated talking about race and then others who are just learning about it. it's like a woman who has been in a marriage for 13 years and is in a counseling office sitting on my couch, saying i'm done, i'm through and the guy's just like but i'm just getting a clue that we have a problem. >> you spent time in ferguson. >> yes. >> and embraced people on both sides. how far do you think ferguson has come in a year? >> well, i think it's actually moving in the right direction. when the ferguson commission report comes out next month, hopefully it will point us forward, especially with the justice report having a new person on the ground there, new chief of police there in ferguson along with some new initiatives like a community engagement team and pastors and police doing things together. i think they're moving in the right direction. when we were there we met with the five ps as i call them, police, protesters, pastors, private sector business and others in the population, and having these kind of
conversations really matter. >> what is the conversation that you think needs to happen that you say could change a generation? what is the hardest part, the most important part of that conversation? >> in all of those areas, police need to have a conversation about the way they police. when we were having a conversation, one of the lead officers there said i need to tell my police officers to slow down, roll their windows down, get off their cell phones and their computers and just say hello. when he said that in this big room of protesters and police and pastors, it was amazing. you could take -- it felt like the air went out the room and everyone was like yes, yes, yes. it seems like something that's so small to some of us but that was huge there. if you think about what that means, police can have those conversations with themselves and if protesters and people in the community could check themselves and the way they live and the way their families function and the education system functions, if everyone can talk to themselves about
their particular groups and then also talk to one another i think we can help the situation. >> you started out this interview by saying there are those of us who lived it. i haven't lived it. i won't live it. how do you get people who haven't lived it or aren't engaged or feel like maybe they're not in the 53% of that study, how do you get them to care and engage? >> this is why multi-cultural churches, multi-ethnic ministries like bridgeway community church and so many others throughout the country are so important to continue to grow. we already know that churches are important. whether they're white churches, black churches, asians, hispanics. when you have multi-ethnic churches, people like you and i get to do life together. guess what, you may not have lived being an african-american male being stopped by a police officer four times within 24 hours in chicago like i did when i was 23, but i haven't lived what it means to be a pretty white woman who has to grow in an environment in the media world. so i can empathize with you
because now i'm entering into your story. you can empathize with me because you are entering my story. we are brothers and sisters. that's how you do it. you have to have relationships. >> some people have pointed to president obama saying look, we have now as a nation twice elected a black president. we have come so far. >> well -- >> what do you say to them? >> i say that we have come a long way. there's no doubt about it. to elect a black president. we need to celebrate that. that's huge. no doubt about it. he could not have done it without simply the black community but people who were not african-americans voting. >> more people now than in so many years think racism is a bigger problem. >> because we have now a black man in power. so one thing, putting him in power shows the progress. having him in power also shows what's been happening under the surface. so you have a different militia groups more than ever, different -- all kinds of threats going on and the kind of conversations that probably should have happened a long time ago come to the surface again
because now you do have people in power who don't look like those who have been in power for so long. >> are you hopeful? >> i'm hopeful but i have to admit to you that sometimes im sad, like i was sitting in an irish restaurant having a beverage by myself and i said hello to a couple people who were sitting at the bar area and you know, the white guy looked up and saw the news, it was cnn or something, and saw the news and it was the news of police pulling over samuel dubois -- dubose and he starting talking to the bar and saying if these guys would just not be a-holes when they're pulled over, if they would just obey the police they wouldn't go home dead. i kind of sat there, i didn't say anything, i didn't engage. normally i would, but just hearing it and feeling it, i just said to myself wow. let's just blame the victims and they won't go home dead. normally i would be fine with that but for some reason on that day after spending over 20 years
building bridges between different people, i have to admit to you, i shed a tear when i was in private because i thought what am i doing? am i not making a difference? i know that i am. but it's moments like that that you realize there is so much more education to be done. >> thank you for being with us. and being part of that education and conversation. >> amen. my pleasure. so good to be with you. thank you. >> thank you very much. also, quick reminder for all of you watching, at the top of the hour, joining me first here on cnn, will be donald trump's former top political advisor, roger stone. was he fired, did he quit? he will tell us his side of the story. one thing for sure, he's no longer in the trump camp and he was about 12 hours ago. we'll be right back. can a business have a mind?
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sex offender registries are designed to help track predators. one teenager's nightmare began when he used a dating app to meet a girl who lied about her age and now his life is forever changed. cnn's kyra phillips investigates. >> reporter: for 19-year-old zach anderson it looks like it's been an idyllic summer. relaxing like any other teenager with his family on the st. joe river. but looks can be deceiving. this summer is hardly normal for zach. in fact, his parents say zach
can even live in their house anymore because his 15-year-old brother lives here, too. and that's not all. >> like using the internet, going to like if you're bored, going to walk around in a park or something. >> reporter: can't go to a mall? >> yeah. can't go to a mall to buy clothes or anything like that. >> reporter: all because zach is listed in his state's sex offender registry. >> it's like i'm an outcast from society with all the things that i have put on me. >> reporter: here's what happened. zach went on a racy dating app called hot or not hoping to meet a girl. he did. they had sex and that's when the problems began. how old did she say she was? >> she had told me she was 17. >> reporter: but she lied. she was actually 14. by law, he had committed a sex crime. he was arrested and convicted. now zach is on the same list of sex offenders as child molesters
and pedophiles, and his parents say that's a colossal mistake. when you heard those words that your son was a sex offender, what was your reaction? >> it's a blatant lie. it's not true. it doesn't even fit our lifestyle. it doesn't fit how we raised our kids. >> reporter: even the girl's mother appeared in court, testifying that she didn't want zach labeled as a sex offender, because quote, he's really not. we also obtained this letter that the girl in question gave zach's family. i'm sorry i didn't tell you my age, she writes. it kills me every day knowing you are going through hell and i'm not. i want to be in trouble and not you. did it ever enter your mind at any time that she could be underaged? >> no. not at all.
>> reporter: was the sex consensual? >> yeah. yeah. >> reporter: but even if the girl admits she lied about her age, and the sex was consensual, as she did in court, it's not a defense in the eye of current sex offender laws. that's why the judge and prosecutor in zach's case didn't let him off the hook. judge dennis whiley angry that zach had used the internet to meet a girl said quote, that seems to be part of our culture now, meet, have sex, sayonara, totally inappropriate behavior. there is no excuse for this whatsoever. he sentenced zach to 90 days in jail, five years probation and 25 years on the sex offender registry. is that you? are you a sex offender? >> not at all. >> reporter: what's happening to zach sounds unusual but it's not. according to the national center for missing and exploited
children, about a quarter of the 850,000 people on the sex offender registry across the nation were under 18 when convicted. the problem, say experts, is the sex offender registry is one size fits all. everyone on it is treated as if they pose the same threat, whether they're a predatory child rapist or a teenager who had sex with his girlfriend. >> if we caught every teenager that violated our current law, we would lock up 30% or 40% of the high school. we're kidding ourselves. >> reporter: former michigan judge william buell has been trying to fix the sex offender registry for two decades. he says adding teens just takes away resources from monitoring the truly dangerous. >> they take that example and say boy, we got to watch this guy and so we'll apply that to
everybody. it just doesn't make any sense. >> reporter: even convicted sex offenders, the very people the registry was set up to monitor, tell us their type of criminal behavior and mindset is vastly different from some of these teens. >> he's not the one we have to fear. he's simply a teenager. >> reporter: ted and rose were both convicted of molestation in separate incidents 20 years ago and are part of a ministry now for sex offenders. >> the registry has become so diluted that you can't identify the truly dangerous. that makes all of it dangerous. >> reporter: so zach is left wondering about what the rest of his life will be like. the weight of his sentencing came crashing down. his first day back at church, after he was released from jail. >> he just didn't look right. i said are you okay? he shook his head. we went outside and he started
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s president obama on vacation now in martha's vineyard, never far away from one of the most pressing issues on capitol hill. which members of congress will or will not support the iranian nuclear deal. already one high ranking democrat has said he will vote against it. that is chuck schumer. republican presidential candidate, mike huckabee
responding today saying, thank god for senator schumer and his opposition to this reckless deal with iran. michelle co skindy joins us from martha's vineyard. the white house coming out saying they're disappointed though not surprised. you saw two others say they're going to vote against the deal. who else are we hearing from the white house? >> every day there are some coming out in support, some coming out in opposition. chuck schumer being a high ranking democrat in the senate. that's a big deal. ruffled feathers, raised lots of eyebrows. republicans are saying this is going to influence more democrats and that's a great thing. what the white house feels is pretty confident. that they would be able to sustain a presidential veto. there are enough votes there. this is not good news for the white house you have. it's such a high profile opposition, they feel like in the end things are going to go there way.
>> is i'm also wondering, you look at those that are undecided. how confident the white house is. the first thing that came to my mind, give the president president credit for the work he had done on the deal. schumer says, no, i'm not for this and here are my considered reasons why. does that give confidence to someone on the fence who may vote against it. >> it could. he's done it, he's laid out all those points. there are a dozen undecided. we expect some of those could come out in opposition. bob menendez asked some really tough questions about the deal. still, he says he's undecided. there are other influential democrats. warner, mccaskill. we don't know which way they're going to go on this. in the end, are the white house says even if more were to decide so it got to the point they voted disapproval against the deal, you know, trying to
override a presidential very tee is a much higher step and the white house feels like that's insurmountable right now. poppy? >> michelle co destine can i, live from martha's vineyard where the president is on vacation. thank you, michelle. much 6:00 eastern, 3:00 pacific this saturday. thank you for being with me. we begin with a major shake-up in the presidential campaign of donald trump, long time political insider and adviser to donald trump roger stone is suddenly out of the trump camp. trump said he fired stone. stone says that is not true. he tweeted, sorr sorry @realdonaldtrump didn't fire me, i fired trump. stone was referring to trump's dig at fox anchor and fox
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