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so i say to the republicans, stop worrying about your campaign funds from big oil or the koch brothers worry about the planet you're going to be leaving your children and your grandchildren. now, i have been criticized during this campaign for many, many things. every single day. that's okay. that's okay. [ cheers and applause ] but let me repeat what i believe. i believe that at a time when every major country on earth
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guarantees health care to all people as a right, that i believe that we should do the same in the united states of america. [ cheers and applause ] so for all of my critics out there in the "wall street journal" and the "washington post" and in corporate america, wherever you may be, let me tell you straight up, yes, i believe that health care is a right, not a privilege! [ cheers and applause ] and that is why i believe in a medicare for all single payer program which will not only guarantee health care to all, it will not only end the pharmaceutical ripoff of the american people but it will save the middle class family, the average middle-class family thousands of dollars a year in
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health care costs. [ applause ] let me conclude by saying what no other candidate for president will tell you. and that is that no president, not bernie sanders, not anybody else, will be able to bring about the changes that the working families and the middle class of this country, that our children, that the seniors, our seniors deserve. no one president can do it because the powers that be, wall street with their endless supply of money, corporate america, the large campaign donors are so powerful that no president can do what has to be done alone. and that is why -- and that is why what iowa has begun tonight is a political revolution. [ cheers and applause ]
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a political revolution that says when millions of people come together including those who've given up on the political process, they're so dismayed and so frustrated with what goes on in washington, with young people who before had never been involved in the political process, when young people and working people and seniors begin to stand up and say loudly and clearly, enough is enough, that our government, the government of our great country belongs to all of us and not just a handful of billionaires, when that happens we will transform this country. thank you all very much. [ cheers and applause ]
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>> a powerful speech by vermont independent senator bernie sanders. now a democrat and in a virtual tie with former secretary of state hillary clinton here in iowa. the latest vote count 95% of the votes in. 49.8% for clinton. 49.6% for sanders. sanders essentially declaring a moral victory this evening. regardless of how it turns out. he said it was a virtual tie, and it looks like his campaign and clinton's campaign will end up with roughly the same number of delegates. this is a bad night for the establishment, i would say, wolf blitzer. both the democratic establishment. you have bernie sanders, somebody who describes himself as a democratic socialist. basically tying with the ultimate insider figure, hillary clinton, here in iowa. and on the republican side
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outsider candidates really winning the day in that contest. jeff zeleny is with the sanders campaign and has some news for us. jeff, a powerful speech for bernie sanders. what's next for him? >> jake, it was a powerful speech. of course he said that iowa started the revolution here. so he's going to take that energy on to new hampshire, where he's leading so much in the polls, has so much energy. but i'm told by a senior strategist to the sanders campaign that they do not expect a final result tonight. they have been told by iowa democratic party officials that there are 90 precincts across the state of iowa out of some 1,800 precincts that do not have a result. but never mind that. senator sanders said it's basically a tie, they will split the delegates and go to new hampshire. but jake, i can tell you the most important element of the speech at least in the short term is the fund-raising possibility of it. senator sanders has built an
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enormous online fund-raising capacity, more than barack obama, more than any other politician of this era. so this is going to be a very big moment for him going forward. and again, it ensures that this race is going to keep going. if you look at the contrast between secretary clinton's speech and senator sanders' speech, there really are differences here that have to be worked out in this democratic party. that's where this race is headed. a contest for the fight of the democratic party. and you can be sure the clinton campaign is going to start more directly pointing out some of senator sanders' flaws that they believe his ideas can be accomplished. this race moves to new hampshire tighter than ever, jay. >> that's jeff zeleny and the latest polling in new hampshire has senator sanders from make vermont ahead by quite a bit, more than 20 points against secretary of state clinton. although who knows what the effect of this virtual tie in
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iowa will be. wolf blitzer, back to you in washington. >> it's amazing how close it's been among the democrats. almost all of the votes now in -- what, 49.9% for hillary clinton. 49.6% for bernie sanders. i want to go back to jeff zeleny quickly. jeff, you're there with one of bernie sanders' top advisers. >> wolf, that's right. i'm joined by jeff weaver, the campaign manager for senator sanders. jeff, what do you make of what is still remaining out there? and are you satisfied with all the information you've gotten about this? >> well, look, there's still some of the vote out. it's very, very tight. who knows whether one of us or the other will be a couple delegates up or a couple delegates down? but this is a tremendous victory for our campaign tonight. we started in single digits and fought our way up to a tie and maybe a win. so this is really going to be a springboard for us into new hampshire and the states beyond. >> what do you think is the fund-raising possibility of this night? senator sanders raised $20
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million in january online. what's your estimate of what this will do? >> well, it's hard to estimate but i expect the people who have supported us online will see this as a really great sign for this campaign and the future of this campaign. and i hope they'll be generous again. we're really grateful to everybody who's given to this campaign in amounts that average $27. right? and we're going toe to toe with the super pac and the wall street funding and the big donors and we're showing we can win. >> we'll see both candidates in the cnn town hall wednesday night. is it time for senator sanders to start drawing more distinctions, particularly on the e-mail controversies. he did not do that here. will we see a new tone on wednesday? >> look where we came. we went from 5% to 50%. we're going to keep doing what we're doing. we're going to talk about a rigged economy, a corrupt campaign finance system and the needs of the american people. we'll let the e-mails deal with themselves. >> jeff, we'll see you wednesday in new hampshire. thank you very much. wolf, back to you.
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>> yeah, that town hall wednesday night is going to be huge. bernie sanders and hillary clinton, they'll be on the stage. anderson cooper will moderate questions coming in from voters in new hampshire, that primary a week from tuesday, a week from now. it's already tuesday on the east coast of the united states. so one week from tomorrow is the -- excuse me. the town hall is wednesday night. the new hampshire primary is one week from tuesday. a week away. the new hampshire primary, the town hall primary wednesday night. anderson cooper will moderate. let's look at the votes right now. 95% of the votes in. only .3% separates hillary clinton and bernie sanders. 49.9%. 49.6%. they are very, very close in delegate equivalents.tate - these are the representatives that will go to the iowa democratic convention. let's have a look at the state delegate equivalents.
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they don't release the hard numbers on the democratic side. but 665 delegates for hillary clinton, 661 for bernie sanders. martin o'malley who's now suspended his campaign, he's got seven so far. john, it's about as close as you possibly can be. if you take a look at those delegates, 665 to 662, it's 50-50 when you round it off. >> and it's hard given how far ahead when she began this race especially in iowa for hillary clinton to call a tie with bernie sanders a win, but it's not hard for bernie sanders, who started so far behind to say as he did tonight i beat the machine or i tied the machine. so this is a big night for bernie sanders. as jeff weaver, his campaign manager, just noted, we don't know the final numbers yet. likely one will win one or two delegates more than that. 90 precincts are still out. wolf, where are they? they're all spread around the state. but the bulk of them, we still only have 88% of the vote in the largest county in iowa. polk county. that's a big thing. secretary clinton has been winning by this margin about all night long. there's no guarantee when the others come in they'll be consistent. but she has that roughly
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seven-point margin throughout the night. so they would assume that, although there could be some sanders precincts we don't know. where else are they? over anywhere lynn county you see 95% of the vote, that means there's still a few precincts out. bernie sanders winning in the cedar rapids suburbs. out in dubuque county 97%. that's gone up in the last couple minutes. they're getting close to finishing up here. secretary clinton with a lead up there. senator sanders, though, running pretty competitive. and down anywhere in scott county and davenport up to 98%. that's gone up too. senator sanders leading there. you can find a few more. some of these rural counties. that one's at 100. this one's at 100. we're getting pretty full if you go through those. the bulk are down here in polk county, in des moines and scattered a little bit in the east. but again, you've got 90 precincts out. 95. that means 95% of the vote counted. you're unlikely to shift the results in any dramatic way. one will win by a little tiny bit. we just can't tell you at the moment because the bulk is here
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and she's been leading here all night. if you were in vegas and you were placing a bet you'd place it by her winning by this much but i don't know if that's a safe bet given the way the night's gone. >> numbers right now 49.8%, 49.6%. doesn't get much closer than that. we'll watch. we're going to watch this very, very closely to see if we can get some final numbers in the course of tonight. let's take a quick break. much more of our special coverage. when we come back, maybe we'll find out the actual winner of the iowa democratic caucus.
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i'm right over here. and welcome back to our continuing coverage of the iowa caucuses. let's take a look at the democratic side. hillary clinton got 49.8% right now with 95% reporting. bernie sanders, 49.6. it does not get much closer than that. martin o'malley has already said that he is going to be suspending his campaign. and of course this coming wednesday night in new hampshire i'm going to be moderating a cnn town hall with bernie sanders and hillary clinton. the first time they are going to be on the same stage on the same stage on the same night just two nights after tonight's dramatic close finish. peter beinart, contributor to "the atlantic" "the atlantic," we haven't heard from you so far. do you expect senator clinton to now start coming after bernie sanders even more aggressively in the coming days? >> i think she has to because she's always been weaker in new hampshire. and her biggest problem, and you saw this in the two speeches,
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there is a huge passion gap here between the two candidacies. this is be only a problem for hillary clinton in the primaries. it's going to be a problem for her if she wins the nomination. presidential campaigns are built around passion and around inspiration. she has a lot of strengths as a candidate but this is one serious weakness. >> michael nutter, former mayor of philadelphia, you're a clinton supporter. do you see that passion gap? >> i appreciate peter's perspective. i think passion is a component of it. but you also have to be practical and be able to get things done. and we certainly saw that in 2008. and -- >> but that's the message hillary clinton has been saying now for a while. that's not getting a lot of excitement in the room. >> i think she was pretty passionate tonight. hillary clinton is a fighter. she demonstrates that time and time again. she's going to fight for america. this was a close race. everyone always said it was going to be close. the two candidates made great speeches tonight. they're now moving on. we'll go to new hampshire. we'll go to south carolina.
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you'll see this race change over the course of the next couple of weeks. so senator clinton, if she has to show more passion, she'll show more passion. but i think people want to know, what are you ultimately going to do? what are you going to get done? and on that count senator clinton chose the program experience of making things happen. >> it's so interesting, though. you see the generational divide in the support for bernie sanders. so many younger people, older people for senator clinton. and again, i guess the younger people see a lack of passion perhaps in senator clinton. >> you know, watching hillary clinton tonight, before i said i think bernie sanders would be easier for republicans to beat. but when i saw hillary clinton give her victory speech, there was nothing happy about it. i mean, she was shouting her lines and came off so angry. this is the candidate that republicans want to face and think they can beat. so if hillary clinton, that's where she's going to go and campaign in new hampshire and south carolina, bring it out. but i did think it was very interesting that while they're fighting over tenths of percentage points she was immediately pivoting to the town
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hall, saying bernie sanders, we're going to meet in new hampshire again because she's ready to shift to the next fight because she did not win this one. >> david? >> i think it's not only the enthusiasm gap but i think that the shrink sanders has shown here is going to pull her to the left. she's going to have a hard time. how do you make compromises with sanders people, how do you get that enthusiasm back? you start moving left. and what we've seen tonight is a republican party voting for the far right candidate in cruz and the democratic party voting for the far left candidate in a moral victory for sanders. >> and senator clinton very clearly tonight saying she is a progressive. >> yes, exactly. >> and gets things done. but clearly the sanders audience is not buying it. >> but the democratic party -- it used to be sort of a sin as a democrat to say you're a liberal. that was something people chased you around about. now she's fully embracing this. and he comes out and fully talks about let's be radical. >> revolution. we've got to go back andto wolf and john, look at more numbers. >> john, i want to go precisely -- this is about as
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close as possible. hillary clinton slightly ahead of bernie sanders with about 95% of the vote now in 49.8%, 49.6%. doesn't get much closer. what's taking so long for these remaining precincts, counties to come in with their vote? >> we're on the phone. iowa democratic officials statewide. and also going through some of those counties. most of the missing precincts are here in polk county. 88% of the vote. we've been stuck on that for well over an hour. we've been stuck at 88%. i just looked at a smaller map, the precincts scattered around the county that are still outstanding but trying to get reasons from the state party and some of the state party officials saying we might not have this tonight, we might have to wait till the morning. that's the biggest chunk of votes here in polk county where des moines is but also some other areas. and again, consistently secretary clinton has been leading senator sanders throughout the county vote. that doesn't mean that what's still out will come in at the same rate but we're keeping an eye on that. other votes missing more over anywhere lynn county. this is where bernie sanders has been waiting most of the night. six-point margin. 95% of the vote in the county.
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that means you've got a handful of precincts that haven't reported here. then around state the other big place where there were some a little while ago, dubuque's up to 100%. secretary clinton beating bernie sanders there. the two main areas, let me just check here. scott county, where davenport is, senator sanders running just narrowly ahead. 59-41. 98%. then if you go around some of these rural areas, one or two. but the bulk of them are here in the des moines area. and then over where i just showed you in the cedar rapids area and that's what we're asking. this has been over for a long time. somebody has the votes. the question's is, we went through this in clinton county last time, sometimes you've got to double-check the math, but we're asking in polk county, lynn county and we've got a razor tight race. 49.8 to 49.6. >> so close. .2 of one percent. if it's that close we don't know who's going to win. we cannot project a winner. we're watching very, very closely. right now for all practical purposes it's a virtual tie. we're going to take another quick break. when we come back, we're going to new hampshire a week from tuesday.
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welcome back. doesn't get much closer than this. on the democratic side, the democratic caucus, hillary clinton very slightly ahead. 50% to 49%. when you round it off, 669 delegates to 666 delegates. one of the counties where there's still, john, some votes out there, lynn county where cedar rapids is right now, what, 95% of the vote is in. >> 95% of the vote is in. that means you've got three, four, five precincts still out. it's important to senator sanders. he's trying to catch up. he's in a statistical tie but he's trying to add to his votes hoping to come out on top and he's been leading by about six points all night pretty consistently in this county. will that be the case when we get the final precincts? >> brett ellis is joining us on the phone. he's the democratic county chairman. brett, thanks very much for joining us. so what's the problem, the remaining, what, about 5% of the vote. what's happening with that? >> we just turned them in to the iowa democratic party. the issue was with regards to
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using volunteers to be able to get all the detail in without confirming that the results were there. >> so can you give us the final results in linn county? because we only have 95%. the state democratic party hasn't given us the final numbers yet. >> what it would be from what we just submitted is just one additional delegate, proportional to what we have here in linn county compared to what was there before. >> so what's the percentage for hillary clinton, what's the percentage for bernie sanders? >> i'm sorry, wolf. i don't have that split. >> was the additional delegate a delegate for sanders or for clinton? >> for sanders. netwise. for the ones that weren't there. >> so that brings, john, a certain advantage right now. that's good news for bernie sanders obviously in this important county, linn county. >> yes. we've been tracking it mostly by the percentages all night because it's easier to explain to our viewers. for the campaigns they track them by delegates to the state convention. it's a multitiered process.
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they go to the state convention then they elect to the state convention delegates that go on to the national convention. if bernie sanders picked up one more from linn county that puts him more in contention. as we pull out, come to the whole state, essentially, if he gets one more, that would get him a little bit -- 667 to 670. and then we're still over here in polk county. let me turn the telestrator on so i can bring that up. still here in polk county where the bulk of the vote still outstanding is. you get one that's a plus. >> thanks very much for that update. let's check in with polk county. some outstanding votes there as well. we're getting closer and closer to a final result. let's take a quick break. much more after this. i think it landed last tuesday. one second it's there. then, woosh, it's gone. i swear i saw it swallow seven people. seven. i just wish one of those people could have been mrs. johnson. [dog bark] trust me, we're dealing with a higher intelligence here.
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voila. remotes, come out from the cushions, you are back. the x1 voice remote is here. welcome back. we're still awaiting a few more results from iowa. right now it looks like a virtual tie between hillary clinton and bernie sanders. this is what we know right now. 49.8% for hillary clinton. 49.6% for bernie sanders. that's with 96% of the vote now in in the state of iowa. polk county. that's the largest county in iowa. the home of the capital of des moines. right now you see that county, you see there's hillary clinton parts, there's bernie sanders parts. the white parts are still undecided. we don't have numbers yet for polk county. we're watching that very closely. we hope to get those numbers soon. hopefully, we'll be able to find out who is the winner in this
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very, very close race between hillary clinton and bernie sanders in the iowa caucuses. a week from today the new hampshire primary takes place. randi kaye is joining us from manchester, new hampshire right now. randi, you've got a focus group there of new hampshire voters of democrats and republicans who've been watching all of this very closely. >> reporter: absolutely, wolf. a lot to see and a lot to watch here in manchester, new hampshire as everything was happening in iowa. and the important thing about this focus group, wolf, is that they're all undecided. we have about 60 folks here gathered here in manchester and they all had one of these in their hands. it's the microsoft pulse app on the phone. and what they were able to do as the speeches were happening and the caucus results were coming in, they would hit on this phone strongly agree for the big thumbs up and they would hit the button with the thumbs down if they strongly disagreed with what they heard. they did that every five seconds. so we got real results. their real sentiment as it was happening. so as i said, many of them undecided here but they did have
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some strong reaction to donald trump when he came out tonight. they were pretty neutral when he said that he was hoping for a victory in new hampshire, but they had a strong reaction to this. listen. >> i don't know who's going to win between bernie and hillary. i don't know what's going to happen with hillary. she's got other problems, maybe bigger than the problems she's got in terms of nominations. [ applause ] but we've had so many different indications and polls that we beat her and beat her easily, and we will go on to get the republican nomination. >> all right. so they strongly agreed there. but you, lisa, you didn't really like what donald trump was saying. >> no, i didn't. when he came out, we contained him being more grateful and to have some sort of party platform and talk about his politicking and his hopes for coming to new hampshire. >> he was too divisive for you? >> and he was very divisive when he spoke about secretary clinton. >> so the group as a whole
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seemed to like what he saz saying. but as i mentioned, they're all undecided here. but i wanted to ask just here on the republican side of the room, all undecided coming in tonight. did anyone get any closer? did anyone pick a candidate? raise your hand. you did. okay. and i know there's some cruz and rubio? rubio? rubio back there. cruz back there and another rubio. another rubio. okay. so let's see how the democrats on this side, democratic voters on this side of the room feel because they also got a chance to listen to hillary clinton and she really did talk quite a bit about policy. watch their reaction to this sound bite, wolf. >> i know that we can finish the job of universal health care coverage for every single man, woman, and child! [ cheers and applause ] i know we can combat climate change and be the clean energy superpower of the 21st century!
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[ cheers and applause ] i know we can make our education system work for every one of our children, especially those who come with disadvantages. [ cheers and applause ] i know we can make college affordable and get student debt off the backs of young people! [ cheers and applause ] >> reporter: all right. so they really liked that. they strongly agreed. they kept hitting that strongly agree button. pulsing, pulsing, pulsing you guys on this side of the room. raul, why did you like that so much? >> because it just demonstrated a breadth of policy understanding. and i think, you know, for me i'm still an undecided voter because i think there's a lot of inspiration coming from both sides. i just still haven't made up my mind. >> let me ask mirri next to you. what did you think of hillary talking policy? >> i thought hillary clinton did an excellent job tonight, but i think bernie sanders ended up beating her hands down. he not only spoke about policy,
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what he plans on doing, but he has done this without any super pacs behind him. and i think it's time for bernie to stop being marginalized and i'd say go bernie. >> you told me earlier tonight that you've been followingsuppo for a long time. let me ask you on the democratic side of the room. all of you coming in tonight undecided. did any of you decide on a candidate tonight? all right. this is big because you're only a week away. who did you pick? >> hillary. >> how about back there? >> bernie. >> bernie. >> and the rest of you still undecided? all right. obviously, wolf, a lot more work needs to be done by the candidates here in new hampshire when they set foot in this state and also by these folks here. they've got to make their minds up, wolf. >> they'll van opportunity wednesday night, cnn town hall in new hampshire. anderson coop will moderate bernie sanders and hillary clinton will take questions from voters in new hampshire. also from anderson as well. prime time wednesday night in new hampshire just days before
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the new hampshire primary. let's take a look and see how close it is here in iowa right now. take a look at this. hillary clinton with 49.8%. bernie sanders 49.6%. about as close as you could possibly. in polk county right now that's the largest county in iowa, right now there's still outstanding votes there in polk county. you can see the white parts of polk county. those are still outstanding right now. we're trying to figure out why those votes are still outstanding in polk county. once we get those votes in, maybe we'll be closer and closer to a final decision in iowa right now. in the meantime, much more of our special coverage will come up right after this quick break. ♪ rootmetrics, in the nation's largest independent study, tested wireless performance across the country. verizon, won big with one hundred fifty three state wins. a t and t got thirty-eight, sprint got two, and t mobile got, zero. verizon also won first in the us for data, call speed, and reliability. a t and t got, text.
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still some outstanding votes in the iowa democratic caucuses. we're waiting for those results. in the meantime looks like a virtual tie between hillary clinton and bernie sanders. right now take a look at this. 49.8% for hillary clinton. 49.6% for bernie sanders. .2 just changed. 97% of the vote now in. .2 of 1%. if you look at the state delegates to the iowa democratic convention, 680 state delegates, stenkly state delegate equivalents for hillary clinton. 677 for bernie sanders. very close in iowa right now. there are some counties where votes are still outstanding like polk county, for example. that's the largest county in iowa. the home of des moines. there are still some parts of
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polk county. we're waiting for those numbers. we're waiting to speak to the democratic party chairman in polk county to get a better answer, why some of those areas of polk county, the white areas you see in that map over there of polk county still are undecided. we're going to get some answers hopefully soon. update you on that. in the meantime a virtual tie. anderson, as i've been saying all night, doesn't get much closer than this. >> certainly doesn't. an exciting night on the republican side as well. chairman mike rogers joining us tonight. we haven't heard from you in a while. in terms of the republican race as they move to new hampshire how do things change on the ground with ted cruz coming in first? >> well, two things. i think first of all anybody that thought that ted cruz was a one-horse, you know, town in iowa i think they're wrong. it showed he can put in organization and overperform. when those numbers topped 180,000, many people, i think me included, thought that's probably going to benefit trump. >> right. the idea there was going to be a lot of new voters. >> that was probably 30,000, maybe even 40,000 new voters. he was able through
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organization, which i tell you, a lot of folks who look at politics for a long time thought we had lost touch with how it works in a presidential campaign. this was good old-fashioned ground game, organization, and he worked to get out the vote. that worked and it will work in south carolina. >> it also raises questions about donald trump's ground game. we didn't know a lot about it frankly in iowa. they didn't let cameras in. there was a lot of secrecy in. in new hampshire -- >> not sure there was. i they went in with an air game. and if you've been in politics any length of time you have to follow it up with a ground game. >> the question is in new hampshire -- >> i think how much does trump fall now? could marco rubio possibly win new hampshire? i think it's not out of the question now. given that trump's entire identity's been based on him being a winner i think we could see a pretty dramatic shift there and i don't think it's impossible to imagine this even becoming -- moving toward being a two-person race. >> this ways big night for rubio, by the way. that's another part of it.
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>> third-place win. but also an equal number of delegates to -- >> he almost beat donald trump for second place. by the end of the night -- >> the number of delegates, he gets the same number of delegates. >> this is a big night. >> ted cruz was able to win by a good percentage even while ben carson took 9% of the vote. rubio going into new hampshire i think you can argue that he did indeed consolidate a good number of establishment support in the iowa win with a third-place finish. how much more support can he get from that lane if ted cruz does indeed pick up the 9% from carson? that will be the most interesting thing to watch going forward. >> well, there are -- if you look forward to new hampshire, so we've had three governors who were sitting in new hampshire tonight, who weren't really factors in iowa, who believed that new hampshire is their ticket forward. >> kasich, christie, and bush. >> and bush. so they're there. rubio then moves in now with a lot of momentum as does cruz.
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i was e-mailing with a senior rubio adviser, and i said can you possibly win new hampshire? of course they say, well, we possibly can. but from their point of view if they place second in new hampshire then they feel they can go on to actually win a contest march 1. >> three, two, one. that's their strategy, come in third -- >> three, two, and one. >> south carolina. >> right. >> before they ever get to march 1. >> well, that's right. march 1 is there -- >> trump is going to have to unload on rubio. there's no way -- >> and they're ready for it. >> the big question now is what does trump do? trump now has to fight on two different fronts. he has to fight rubio in new hampshire and he has to fight with cruz down in south carolina. and at the same time i think this will be the other question that's going to get answered. the outside money, the super pac world, do they start to concentrate all their firepower on donald trump, who has not faced -- who has faced very minimal opposition when it comes
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to negative advertising? and if he has to fight on all three of those fronts that is where you see trump start to come back down to earth. >> one of the lessons of tonight is negative ads against donald trump actually work. it turns out cruz was able to really drive down his numbers among conservative evangelical christians by focusing on his history of being culturally liberal. this idea among a lot of people in the media that he was somehow immune to this. turns out he was not. >> there's also all this all along questions about does donald trump have a cap on the percentage of votes he can get on the number of supporters? has that question been answered at all tonight? >> no, i don't think it has been answered. i think peter beinart is asking the right question, does the air start going out of the balloon. it is true. his brand was all the about being a winner. and i can deliver and i will deliver and everything like that. it was very impressive. that does not mean, though, he can't bounce back. we've seen candidates do that before. i think to do that it's not a question of fighting. i think it's a question of showing a different side of
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donald trump we haven't seen. and that is a more mature, less bombastic, generous -- he had some evidence of that in his speech tonight. if he's humbled by this and shows that he can take it and he can take the punch and he can come back in new hampshire, he'll get himself back. >> has anybody ever seen a sign that -- >> donald trump -- >> i mean really, has he -- he says he can change as president. the question is can he change as a candidate? and would that actually help him? >> i think we've got to put a couple things in perspective here. iowa was the perfect state for ted cruz. he needed to win to have a shot. he did that. he was very impressive. iowa is donald trump's worst state in the entire union. so we have to see if he can bounce back from atha. rubio had a very good night. but he has to win a state. the idea he's going to come in third in iowa, second in new hampshire, lose south carolina. someone else had that strategy. it was rudy giuliani. it didn't work out very well for him. you've got to win a state to win. the expectations game is nice for us up here but it doesn't get you delegates, it doesn't get you momentum. right? >> one thing that's really
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important to look at is the amount of cash on hand that these candidates do have. rubio is waiting for the money to come. ted cruz is going to start in new hampshire with more cash on hand in the field, almost $19 million i believe. he has more money than many of the establishment candidates combined. how does rubio, does he consolidate the support from them? get big money? to ultimately become competitive. that's a pretty big gamble. >> here's how you know that trump, the air is coming out of the sails. he actually has to show up for a television interview. he can't phone it in. when that starts happening, i'll guarantee you he's in big trouble. >> if that starts happening. >> we're going to take a look at also the democratic side coming up. let's just take a look at the numbers right now. still in iowa hillary clinton 49.8%, bernie sanders 49.6%. still some caucuses results still to come in. going to try to get some more numbers on that. see who actually won this. if we can find out tonight in, say, the next hour or so.
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that's why i switched from u-verse to xfinity. now i can download my dvr recordings and take them anywhere. ready or not, here i come! (whispers) now hide-and-seek time can also be catch-up-on-my-shows time. here i come! can't find you anywhere! don't settle for u-verse. x1 from xfinity will change the way you experience tv. they're still counting the votes in the democratic caucuses in iowa right now. 97% of the caucus sites have reported. look how close it is. 49.8% for hillary clinton. 49.6% for bernie sanders. the numbers of state delegates, 682 go to the democratic convention in iowa. 682 for hillary clinton.
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678 for bernie sanders. martin o'malley, he has just suspended his campaign. so knees no longer running right now. jeff zeleny is on the phone at bernie sanders headquarters. jeff, what's the problem sneer you're getting new information on why we're not getting these final numbers so we don't know who actually won. >> reporter: i'm at the airport with senator sanders. he's beginning to make his way to new hampshire. but a campaign official with the sanders campaign has just told us that the iowa democratic party in their words failed to adequately staff 90 precincts across the state and they are now asking both the clinton campaign and the sanders campaign to help recreate the results from what happened tonight at the caucuses. and they do not believe, they're not sure if that can be done this evening. they say the party officials are working through the evening to
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do this. but that is what the holdup here is. we're not exactly sure where these 90 precincts are. the sanders campaign of course is going through them. they did not say exactly where they are. some of them are right here in des moines, in polk county, the state's most populous county. but that is why there is once again a deadlock and uncertainty hanging over these iowa caucuses. this time on the democratic side. of course four years ago it was on the republican side. the sanders campaign is saying that they will help out and cooperate and try and recreate this. and of course both sides kept very good records. and they have their own online app. and their iphone app to keep attendance records and things. there is information out there. but the party, the state party apparently did not adequately staff 90 precincts, at least in the view of the sanders campaign. >> i don't understand what that means, to restage the caucus. the caucuses in those various
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locations. what does that mean? >> reporter: it's just to recreate the results, wolf. it would be to say specifically how many people came out for hillary clinton, how many people caucused for bernie sanders. so that is our understanding, the party does not have the official tally, if you will, from these precincts. that is our understanding coming from what the iowa democratic party has told the campaign. but again, the sanders officials are quite sharp in their language of this. their language saying the state party failed to adequately staff some 90 precincts. and as you know, wolf, there are some 1,800 precincts across the state of iowa that make up the iowa caucuses. >> that's pretty shocking. is it because they had a higher turnout than they anticipated? is that the excuse they're giving for this? >> reporter: certainly that could be one of the reasons. but you know, there were definitely some questions about
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technology. there was this new microsoft technology actually going to work in some of these places? you know, we don't know if they're urban counties or there are some rural counties. i'm guessing it's a mix. so perhaps that could be playing a role in this as well. it's certainly one question mark hanging over this very, very close, too close to call iowa caucus. >> yeah. it's pretty embarrassing for the democratic party in iowa, that they failed to adequately staff what 90 or so of these caucus sites. that's pretty embarrassing. jeff zeleny, if you get more information, let us know. i want to go over to john king. john, it sort of reminds me four years ago on the republican side when they originally declared that mitt romney won. only three weeks later they declared not so fast, it was really rick santorum who won. >> it was a mix-up at state party headquarters over the count in clinton, iowa if you remember. he'd sxith carol, if you're still up, sorry we didn't have duel tonight. i guess you're happy we didn't have to call you tonight. a little bit of amateur hour or a mistake, a misunderstanding.
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you know you're going to have a packed night, you know you're going to have a competitive race. what jeff means by recreating, the campaigns all keep their own tally. some on paper something, on an app. now the question is when they call the sanders person at the precinct in question do they agree with the clinton person at the precinct in question? as long as they agree on the count then they'll figure it out. the question is do we get any disagreements? where are those precincts? all over the state. most of them are here. still up to 94% in the largest county in the state, the one that's closest to state democratic headquarters. you would think that maybe at least closer to home they would make sure they were properly staffed. but that's 6% of the vote still out in polk county. remember we were talking to the chairman in linn county a while ago, they're up to 99% now. they were up to 97% when we had that conversation. they've resolved most of their issues but still something missing out there. i just noticed this a minute ago. in woodbury county or sioux city where senator sanders is missing, we're still missing 7% of the vote out there. this could be encouraging for the sanders campaign. if the trend continues in that county. we don't know that. we don't know which precincts
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are missing and what would happen there. as you can see, that's the far western part of the state. this is the center part of the state. still got some missing in the eastern part of the state. and then, wolf, if you look around, if you just sort of go around the map, 91% mitchell yoint. this is a very tiny county. less than 1% of the population. secretary clinton winning handily. but still 9% of the vote out there. is that one precinct? we don't know the answer to that question. you can find a few more of those if you surf around. 92%. secretary clinton winning over senator sanders there. you don't know the precinct or two that are left outstanding. the bulk of them if you look at 97 me 97%, 98% of the vote count statewide, you're missing 6% in the state's largest yoint. that's where the missing votes are in des moines and the area around it within polk county. >> pretty awkward. pretty embarrassing, john. i've got to tell you. that they didn't have it adequately staffed in those 90 caucus sites. very embarrassing for the democratic party in iowa. we'll see if they can recreate those numbers and do it in a fair and responsible way.
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even though it's about as close as you possibly can think, it's a virtual tie right now, the bragging rights are important for hillary clinton if she wins or bernie sanders if he were to win in iowa. that would be significant. clearly an embarrassment for the democratic party right now. let's take a closer look at what has happened so far tonight in the iowa caucuses. first on the republican side, cnn projected a while ago ted cruz, the texas senator, he is the winner in the iowa republican caucuses with 28%. trump with 24%. marco rubio in a very impressive third place with 23%. ben carson with 9%. but cruz did win. he beat trump by 6,233 votes. a big win for ted cruz. he now goes on to the next contest. all of them go on to the next contest. clearly a disappointment for donald trump. he was hoping to win the most recent polls in iowa showed he would win. but he did not win tonight. impressive gh


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