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families. >> meanwhile, president barack obama takes to the campaign trail has hillary clinton recovers from pneumonia. >> we cannot afford suddenly to treat this like a reality show. we can't afford to act as if there's some equivalence here. to be president you have to do your homework and you have to know what you're talking about. >> here to discuss a very busy day, "washington post" reporter filli phillip bump, and the assistant editor of time and makers and takers, c nn politics editor. thank you for being here. hillary clinton is off the campaign trail, president obama stepping in to help her in the key battleground state of pennsylvania. mark i'm going to come to you, but i want you to listen to a bit of what the president had to
say. >> you want to debate transparently, you've got one candidate in this race whose released decades worth of her tax returns. the other candidate is the first in decades who refuses to release any at all. you want to debate foundations and charities? one candidate's family foundation has saved countless lives around the world. the other candidate's foundation took money other people gave to his charity and then bought a six-foot tall painting of himself. >> i think you'll agree as others, even on the other side, say that barack obama is a gifted campaigner, but how much do you think this is going to impact her campaign, is it going
to help her? >> quite a bit. he is one of the most gifted politicians of our time. now let's go back and who was that person before barack obama? it was bill clinton. right? somebody who could deliver a speech, be serious yet inner twined and we've weaven. >> i was watching today saying barack obama is now hillary clinton's bill clinton. >> it is -- and nia is absolutely right. here's the thing about barack obama. i'm not going to the campaign trail the next couple weeks. you have the u.n. general assembly coming to new york city. he's still the president, but come october he's going to be on the campaign trail, and in states such as north carolina, florida, and a lot of people don't realize there are a lot of african-americans in key states such as ohio, in michigan, in pennsylvania. we saw him in philadelphia today. barack obama could really be a great help, and someone said this earlier and they were
absolutely right. when's the last time we've seen a sitting president campaign so hard on behalf of their nominee. >> smart move to have him out there. >> unquestionable. the guy is popular, which is not always common for barack obama, much less presidents. the new post abc poll had 58% approval, which is probably a little high, but everyone else has him about 50%. he's well-liked. he's a good campaigner. we just saw this new economic data which shows incomes rose 5.2% across the country. there was a lot of good news and barack obama is a good advocate. there's strong correlation between having a popular president and that party doing well in the popular election. it's win-win, win. >> watching him, i was saying this man is going do whatever it takes to get hillary clinton elected. it is personal for him and not only that, it's legacy. >> it's legacy and going to your point about the economic data, you can now look and say we've just had the biggest jump in median incomes in it country in
50 years that is ia nice piece f economic data to go out with. >> does that help or hurt when you look at the economic data and people say, i don't feel it. >> it's interesting because this last bit of data shows incomes are finally starting to rise at the bottom and at the middle so you're starting to get a little bit of that, you know, gap starting to shrink and i think that people this year did start to feel a little bit different than they have certainly in the past six or seven years. i think we are at a turning point. >> and it would be interesting for him to have donald trump be the recipient of that if this continues to go in that direction instead of hillary clinton, which which wouould he legacy. phillip, ivanka was out on the campaign trail with her father, how to help middle class family especially to pay for childcare, listen to this. >> the united states is the only industrialized nation in the
world that does not provide new mothers with paid maternity leave. my father's policy will give paid leave to mothers whose employers are among the almost 90% of u.s. businesses that currently do not offer this benefit. >> it is pretty clear when you look at it, this is pretty straight politics. he needs women and he's going right after this. >> that's exactly right. he has eye civanka out there, s well-liked. i think one of the fascinating things is it's one of the things we've seen donald trump layout a concrete proposal with details. he hasn't done that at all and said hillary clinton hadn't released any childcare plan, which she had, which is very trumpy. this was a fairly unique thing for him and for his candidacy, and it will be interesting to see -- and you know obviously we could talk about the policy itself and i'm sure we will, but they're all very detailed. it's just very unusual. >> i want to talk -- you said
it's very trumpy. >> but isn't the irony about the details is this was supposed to on be her policy, it was her driving force behind her father to put this into place and make sure the building blocks were there? >> it's in line with a lot of other policies and does favor up and middle class people. it's not a policy that's -- >> how so? >> it's regressive. most benefits from the kind of plan they're proposing would flow to the people with the most income so it's not really going to help working class americans, middle class americans, lower class americans who really do need childcare the most. >> what do we know, mark, if anything, about how he handled these similar issues in his own companies, paid family leave, childcare that sort of thing? >> they put a statement out today and they said that trump corporation that they feel very good about the policies they have done. i mean look i'm not a labor expect so i expert. let's assume there are holes in
it. it would be very difficult for him to be talking about this without them having some buttoned-up approach. >> the question is always how are you going to pay for this? how is he -- everything that you -- people running for president proposed, how is he going to pay for this? >> and that's what we haven't heard enough about him. this is sort of classic trickle-down economics, tax cuts and tax breaks without plans about how to pay for them and a lot of economists think spending and the deficit would go way up based on what little we've seen so far of some of the trump's supporters. >> is this an issue trump takes on? so how is this going to be received? you're saying no? how will this be received? >> breitbart.com, which has been very strong pro-trump, had a story lamenting barack obama of proposing they had childcare leave and an article saying how great it was. it is not typical. this is -- this is, i think, an
area where both i vvanka to got her father to make a change and where he can be a different type of candidate. if he'd be doing stuff like this all along i think he would probably be in a slightly better position. >> let's talk more about the economy. here's the president. >> now, let's face it. republicans don't like to hear good news right now. but it's important just to -- to understand this is a big deal. more americans are working. more have health insurance. incomes are rising. poverty is falling. and gas is $2 a gallon. i didn't even -- i -- thank you for reminding me. thanks, obama. >> you're saying thanks obama because earlier on, they were saying thank you, obama, what have you, during.
this they were chanting that. donald trump has said the economy is a mess. and he did say -- he said that economic statistics are rigged and he accused the federal reserve janet yellen of keeping interest rates low to help obama. how will this play in public? it is good news. >> and what's kind of ironic is if you look at really who's done the mo the most for the economy. feds kept rates low. the fact we had low inflation is one of the reason yes medireaso why median yaincome is riding. the data is better because there are more jobs but wages are not growing as fast as they should. each one has taken longer and been weaker than the last. >> thank you-all.
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our senior investigative correspondent has been looking into the investigation and here's what he found. >> reporter: it's a sticky little thing called a fact, tens of millions of them. dollars that trump campaign continuously says donald trump has given away without specifically providing any of the sticky little facts to back it all up. >> anyone who knows about donald trump and his career knows that this is a man who's given away tens of millions of dollars to charitable causes. >> joining us is trump's campaign manager, kellyanne conway. >> this morning on cnn's new day, it was trump's campaign managers turned to dodge the charity question. >> part of why people are calling for him to release his taxes is so we know he himself has given to charity. will you or the campaign release exactly what that number is? >> i doubt it. >> and the reason why i. >> why would you doubt it? >> this is like badgering. i see it not as journalism, but
badgering. >> reporter: here is journalism as we know it. the first thing you'll notice, it's small. in 2014, it had just $1.3 million in the bank and donald trump hasn't given to his own foundation since he gave his last donation in 2008. the foundation instead relies on donations mostly it appears from companies who have had business or tv appearances with him. nbc, comedy central, world wrestling entertainment, trump then uses those then-donated funds to give it away. cnn has found this year, trump personally has given his own money, one million dollars to the marine corps law enforcement, and $100,000 to a baton rouge louisiana church to help flood victims and there is evidence trump's campaign's allegations that some of the reporting on trump's charity has
been inaccurate may have something to them. the washington post, which has done an exhaustive review of trump's giving reported a $10,000 donation, trump's foundation said it gave to latino commission on aides was never received. today, the director of the latino commission on aids told us the same thing and then actually checked and changed his story. it turns out trump did give $10,000. >> i'm grateful that the story came up because i was able to clarify the confusion that happen happened when they were putting this story together. >> in a second instance, the "washington post" reported trump's foundation failed to get a 10,000 that donation to the giving-back fund, a fund devoted to professional athletes and charitable causes and trump did in fact give money to that charity, as well. we just did an exhaustive search, the charity wrote to cnn and did finally find a record of it.
>> and we found a third example tonight where a trump donation was made to a charity that the "washington post" claims was not made. this is called a friends of veterans down in palm beach, florida. this looks like an error in the accounts in the trump foundation itself, and charted that to a vermont charity with the exact same thing but will only feed into the fire the trump campaign is trying to raise there are lots of inaccuracies in the reporting about trump's charitable giving, but doesn't excuse the fact we have no evidence whatsoever from the campaign or the trump organization where these tens of millions of dollars that donald trump has supposed three given out over the years where they actually are. don? >> drew griffin, thank you very much. up next a trump campaign has some choice words for the attorney general investigationing tinvestigation the foundation.
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making of donald trump. here's what the new york state attorney general erik snyderman said on cnn earlier. >> we have been concerned that trump foundation may have engaged in some in propriety from that point of view and we've had correspondents with them. i didn't make a big deal or hold a press conference but we've been looking into the trump foundation to make sure it complies with the laws that govern charities of new york. >> does this concern you? >> you've got a highly politically motivated attorney general who sets hissi sights o the next attorney general of new york. what's very important here is this is all premised on the "washington post" story, which was originally written and that "washington post" story, specifically outlined three foundations that claimed donald trump made a contribution to and those foundations said they didn't receive the money until cnn went back and did the research and found they had
received the money on each of those occasions and the "washington post" said we stand by our story. you have snyder januaman, who h solicited contributions from donald trump, and ivanka, and his son-in-law, now using his office for a foundation where there's no wrongdoing. >> the trump's response is pretty aligned to what corey lewandowski is saying. it says taken general is a partisan act who has endorsed hillary clinton. this is another left-wing hit job to distract hillary clinton's disastrous week. your you not surprised they're opening up this investigation a and. >> there have been the use of ch charitable funds, and the charity money to buy a six foot
painting of donald trump, president obama talked about, and the $25,000 given to pam bondi's election campaign when she was considering investigating this fraud of trump university. the last one is very important, because the trump organization has tried to explain that a in way that suggests a coverup. we wanted to go to a group in wichita -- a group in california and the fact is charitable foundations operate under rules set by congress and you are not allowed to use that money for your own benefit. on those three issues alone there's plenty of guardian of charity assets is look into what's happening at the trump foundation and if there's nothing there then they won't find anything but we know of these three illegal acts. >> corey, mike pence has said donald trump has given away tens of millions of dollars but as
you saw in the investigation, where is the proof? >> donald trump said he gives personal donation to what we saw this year alone when donald trump raised $6 million for the veterans. he wrote a personal $1 million check from his own account to the marine corps law enforcement foundation. you can call jim calstrom, and what we also know donald trump did not donate to his charity pau because he's chosen to give that personally. >> this is a year he's been running for president so of course he's going to make a deal out of it that he has given to char i charity, but there is no proof of it. >> again he's said he'll release his taxes as soon as the audit complete but whe know he's give millions personally and the "washington post" story -- >> we had been discussing
transparency and you and i talked about transparency last night, especially in light of secretary clinton. we've compiled a list of hillary clinton's charitable donations according to her tax filings. 2015 she donated over $1 million. in 2013 and 14, she donated $3 million, and so on and so on. shouldn't she detail his charitable giving through his tax returns? >> i don't think he's going to release his tax returns until the audit completed. when you look at the attorney general of new york about what he's not done -- >> that's eight, ten years ago, completely irrelevant. do you know what we released from mike pence's taxes? nothing. >> he released them probably because there is nothing in there. >> so the question is, is that -- >> and i respect mike pence. >> people are saying donald trump is not releasing his tax returns even though the irs, and
attorneys have said you know what if there's nothing, he can release them, that's bull, to say that's a talking point. >> his accountant and his attorneys said our best advice to you is as you are understand audit, you should not release your tax returns. that's a fair point to make. >> that's not true. maybe they've said that but that's not true. >> don? >> david, go ahead. >> don, first of all, all donald trump has to do if he's actually under audit released audit letter a form letter you get. let's see he's been audited every year so he should have about ten or 12 of these he's under audit. there's nothing disclosed that's personal. prove he's under audit. secondly in 1990 when trump claimed he was giving away millions, i called about 60 charities not one of whom said they had gotten $1 from donald trump. there may be some minor flaws in the "post" piece. what's a fact is donald and his
surrogates say he made these donations but there's no record of them. the donations we do know about it, work up to be a tiny fraction, of what he says, whereas his opponent are disclosing at least 1/3 of their wealth. >> donald trump's $10 million, a fracti fraction percent is $1 billion. >> he's filed a disclosure with the scc. >> don, one last point if you can finish without being dru interrupted. donald trump has a well-established history of using different sets of numbers and tax filings. we know he took part in the sales tax fraud in new york city at bulgari's. he's made public statements that don't line up with reality in
terms of his property tax matter. i don't think there's reason to trump donald trump when he says he made these gifts, where's the record of it, and donald trump, you know, puts his name on everything. he's going to tell us, i don't want my name anywhere. where are the gifts to the university of pennsylvania, his alma mater? there's simply no record to support the claim that's being made and the unwillingness to produce it suggests that in fact there's nothing 32 juthere. one last point if donald trump by his own standard says i can't release them under audit, the audits are closed so by his own standard there's no reason to withhold those tax returns. >> so where are the receipts, corey lewandowski? >> you should contact the marine corps law enforcement foundation, who received $1 million. go back and look this year. >> what about 2015, 2014, 2013, 2012? >> trump was the recipient of
the law enforcement award. he gave $125,000. you can give the phone call to jim calstrom, who runs the fouchbidati foundation. >> last year, it was $125,000. >> that's this year. what he has said and continues to say, is he does not give money to his foundation. he writes personally, and you can contact the marine corps law enforcement foundation, which is tasked with helping those people, individuals' families who have died. >> contact the foundation. it will show up on their 990s. >> if i wrote a check to you, corey lewandowski, i can say here's the canceled check and they can get a cop. >> he heoutlined a very significant list of the charitable contributions he's made that was given to the "washington post.." >> corey lewandowski, i
understand that, but there is no proof. that. when you call the foundation -- >> that's exactly what our investigators did. >> and they found three examples specifically where the washington post said they weren't there. >> if you look through his report there is no proof except for a $10,000 donation, there's no proof of any of that. >> it was three, $10,000 donations that was originally said by the post they weren't, but it was. and the "washington post" said we stand by our story but when the ceo of the foundation said we have in our records we received 10 sth$10,000 contribu they said nothing to see her, move on. >> have the people of his campaign seen his tax returns? >> i don't know. he's produced a letter that said he's under audit. >> the reason i ask you this is because -- >> david i'll let you get in. the reason i ask you this is because kellyanne conway, campaign manager would come on before when she was surrogate
for ted cruz, she would say donald trump needs to release his tax returns. when she came back at an advisor -- or campaign manager, she said since i've learned new information since supporting donald trump, what diss that new information? why can't that be revealed? you have seen those tax returns? >> he's under audit from the irs. >> now she is because she understands that under the audit and by the advice of his both attorneys and by his accountants, they have said you should not release your taxes until the audit complete. that's for clear. >> that's like saying my tailor told me i couldn't wear black with blue. >> if you were tasking somebody to file your taxes on your behalf, which is your accountable and attorneys and they're giving you their best professional advice which you're paying for you should listen to it. >> go ahead, david. >> notice corey lewandowski keeps avoiding the basic issues
here, namely what about the returns that are no longer under audit from 1978 to 2008, by donald's own standards there's no reason to hold those back and we have hillary clinton's for all of these years and what about producing the form letter that says we're auditing your return. the letter that corey refers to is one of the mort artfully that i have read. we had a crook in the white house, a tax crook in the white house, who released his tax returns while under audit. we had a man one heartbeat away who resigned and confessed and admitted to a tax felony back in 1974. we don't want to risk having a tax cheat in the white house and there is no excuse for donald trump not to release the audit letters and to release his 19 -- 2008 and earlier tax returns and that he won't do it. he has very good evidence
together with the other signs of fraud that i have written about, that there's something he needs to hide. >> all right. that's got to be the last word. thank you for that. david k. johnson, corey lewandowski, we'll discuss a little bit more. president obamas he really, really, really wants hillary clinton to win. is he just the shot in the arm that she needs as she recovers from pneumonia. wild-caught alaskan salmon. when you cook with incredible ingredients... you make incredible meals. fresh ingredients. step-by-step-reciepes. delivered to your door, for less than $9 a meal.
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president barack obama's approval rating soaring and he is using his star power to help hillary clinton succeed and succeed him, joining me bakari sellers and corey lewandowski is back with us, and cnn political commentator, kailey mcinaney, and former congressional director of the black caucus. hope i can get my mouth to work in this segment. kailey, president barack obama out solo on the campaign trail, stumping for hillary clinton today, clearly he has distain for donald trump. >> this is the guy you want to be championing working people? this guy who spent 70 years on
this earth showing no concern for working people. this guy suddenly's going to be your champion? i mean, he spent most of his life trying to stay as far away from working people as he could. >> so it's not doubt that donald trump has a lot of support from working people as part of his biggest supporters. president's question is why would people about a wealthy businessman from new york who is readily admitted in some ways gaming the system saying i had to do what i had to do as a businessman. why do they think he's going to advocate for them in the white house? >> i suppose you should ask them because they turnout in droves for them. independent voters came out for donald trump and he's winning by three times the margin mitt romney won them by. we heard donald donald trump jr. saying i was out there on the construction sites with my dad and learned about cutting sheet metal. my first job was on the construction site.
donald trump didn't sit at the top of trump tower. he got in the dirt, gotten the workers, that's the kind of man he was. >> he wasn't out there doing construction work. >> but he talked to the people who worked for him. they were his peers and friends. >> go ahead. why are you sitting there -- >> it's been one of the better tricks of this campaign cycle where somehow, some way that donald trump's been quested ico into this working-class hero, when donald trump opposes the minimum wage, and actually came out and quote/unquote said wages are too high, so i don't understand how you can take someone's policy rhetoric doesn't match up with this plea that he's making to worki working-class americans but to get to the genesis of your question, the most popular elected question in the united states of america is barack obama -- it may be michelle obama. >> she's not elected. >> she's officially the first
lady. she's a public official. >> this is where -- >> i think all of these people will roll out for hillary clinton and supplement here. >> she was for nafta, for it. p. the tpp. i've had anchors on this network talk about 30 years ago how bad nafta is. >> if you want to have a policy conversation, hillary clinton -- hillary clinton has over 112,000 words of policy. >> i'd be happy to. >> donald trump has 9,000. donald trump does not want to have a policy debate because he hasn't put forth a lot of -- >> what. >> factories from mexico, you're going to pay a tarriff when you cross back into the border. >> and said apple will produce their phones here? how's that going to work? >> the clinton campaign always -- >> don? >> don, hello?
i'm over here in tv time out. and just want to chime in quickly to say donald trump is selling americans a dream and part of the issue is there's book that's now pretty old called "what's the matter with k kansas", and we know the american dream pedals to people who will never achieve it based on the policies and priorities they have. donald trump has embraced that and in fact created a monster out of the situation. he's basically calling republicans to the carpet and saying if you really believe all of the things you've been saying for all of these decades, if you believe this dog whistle politics, let me use them and see what i get from it and this is what we've seen in this election cycle. it is us, versus them, very, very divided electorate because people are mad and they need someone to blame. unfortunately, the people they're blaming look like me and
other black and brown people. >> corey is not in time out. >> for 30 years washington has been broken. >> you don't agree with me. >> yes, i do. >> you don't agree with me. >> let me tell you, i think the american people are frustrated and washington, d.c. has been broken, republicans and democrats have gone to washington and promised things and what we've gotten is $21 trillion in debt and gotten jobs shipped over seas and seen everybody but americans put first for a change and if you want another ten, or 20 or eight more years of what this country has had, which is broken promises, because the washington, d.c. sta washington, d.c. establishment and the special interest controls you, then great -- >> and how much they donate to the hillary clinton foundation. >> donald trump's put $60 million of his own money and he can't be bought and he's the only candidate whose produced jobs in the private sector.
>> he's buying. >> corey, let me just knock you off your filibuster speech, and just say a couple things. one is your candidate is an insider. he's just on the other side. instead of cashing the checks, he's writing the checks. >> he's signing the front of a paycheck which hillary clinton has never done. >> unfortunately, the reason why trump can continue to make these allegations about being crooked hillary is because he is crooked as hell donald, and we'll see tomorrow just how conflicted he is. >> how many checks has hillary clinton signed the front of? 0. how many jobs has she created? 0. >> i can't chase you down that rabbit hole. >> do you know what's happened she hasn't done any of it. >> she's been too busy in public service and you-all wouldn't know anything about that. you've been busy shipping jobs overse overseas. she's been busy in the public sector. >> we will continue this conversation when we come right back. they're going to fight in the break. we'll be right back. e open road.
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happened to the republican party. right? they used to be opposed to russia and authoritarianism and fighting for freedom and democracy, and now their nominee is out there praising a guy, saying he's a strong leader because he invades smaller countries, jails his opponents, controls the press and drives hi economy into a long recession. >> it's been a baffling issue and upsetting not just democrats but some republicans as well. but is this resonating to voters overall? >> i think so. maybe not the in the weeds details about trump's relationship with putin per se but i think it makes a lot of voters leery, not understanding
much about trump. we know his largest debt holder is bank of china, don't want president to have those relationships but get on national tv with matt lauer and say president putin has 82% approval rating. do you know why? >> dictator. >> because if you disagree, be in jail or dead. for him to not have context it is baffling the lack of knowledge d.c. has about foreign policy but even more baffling that he doesn't want to learn. >> and president obama made same point about being a dictator, high approval because you end up in jail if you don't support him. but john mccain, mike pence got push back on capital hill about support of putin. >> he doesn't support putin but in order to be a effective
leader you have to work at other countries. let's look at cease-fire and we're all happy about it democrats too. that enteared negotiating with putin. guess who hillary clinton gleefully presented red button as reset button to -- >> just listen to me. are you putting yourself in position where you know more than john mccain who is war hero and knows about policy. shouldn't that concern all of us if he's concerned? >> a lot of those folks, hillary clinton being number one have had wrong judgment but all hold her ups amost experienced. >> let's -- >> iraq war. >> wrong. >> so was donald trump. >> not true. he's on record opposing it. >> no he's not.
not on the record. >> this is my -- it's a lie. >> democratic friends resist specificity and facts like they're the plague. >> stop. there is no proof that donald trump opposed the war before the war started. maybe personally. >> he's on record with neil cavuto, i'll put the clip on twitter. >> seen that. it's not specific. >> on record the day off the war saying it's a mess. guess who was for the war up to two years ago. >> stop, stop. i have to -- i have commitment to the american people and viewers watching. that is not true. if you look at neil cavuto interview doesn't say specifically opposes the war. there is absolutely -- will you let me finish my point? that is indeed false. there is nowhere on the record.
facts do matter. >> you know what the difference is --? she wanted a fact check. >> hillary clinton served on the senate armed services committee. had access to classified information that she was aware of prior to going to making a vote in support of a war which she favored. do you know what donald trump was at time? private businessman reading the "new york times" and "washington post". >> that doesn't mean you can't tell the truth about it. >> difference is when you have access to information that the general public doesn't have you should be able to make a better decision. >> you're absolutely right about this. that is indeed true, but to say that donald trump is on record opposing the war before it started is not true. >> i know democrats resist convenient facts. wait a minute. >> i'm not a democrat by the
way. that is a fact. >> don i can't deal with it. kay league, i love you truly. you can't continue to say democrats resist facts. that's laughable. your candidate is allergic to facts. if cnn pie chart where. >> liberal fact checkers proven unreliable. >> paid political commentators. >> i'll give you a quote. >> no. >> maybe we shouldn't do this right now. end quote. that's a fact. a quote. it happened. you can say it didn't happen. >> rabbit hole. doesn't mean i'm committed to. just telling you cnn has demonstrated. network we're paid for demonstrated that donald trump lies most of the time and hillary clinton's numbers are almost exactly the opposite. >> it's not a liberal fact check it's network we work on. >> stand by everyone.
talking about facts here. here's the thing. trump dialled that back a bit in another interview, january of 2003, a few months before the invasion, fox's neil cavuto asked whether be more focused on iraq or the economy? >> here's quote. he's got to do something or not do something perhaps because perhaps shouldn't be doing it yet and perhaps should be waiting for the united nations you know. trump says he's under a lot of pressure, doing a great job but if you look at polls, lot of people getting tired. i think iraq situation is a problem and economy is problem as far as the president is concerned. that is not -- >> that's what i said. as opposed to hillary clinton a decade after. >> can i finish with the litany of bad decisions -- libya.
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