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six-foot-tall painting of himself. >> for many families in our country, child care is now the single largest expense. >> my father has created a plan that is designed to bring relief. >> secretary of state colin powell, tearing into donald trump in a series of leaked e-mails. >> this is far bigger than watergate ever was. >> are you calling him a liar? >> i really, really, really want to elect hillary clinton. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> we won't even know who it is after awhile. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> good morning, welcome to your "new day." up first, donald trump's unveiling his child care plan in an effort to close the gap with female voters. trump's daughter ivanka, outreaching to women helping to craft and sell the proposal. >> president obama is out on the trail and he's making the case for clinton, and against donald trump. we also have a new deveal from
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hackers this time it was former secretary of state colin powell he got hacked and in part of his e-mail cache we have him calling donald trump a national disgrace. hillary clinton is set to be back on the trail tomorrow. and she has to get there, because there's only 55 days left in this election. and a lot of people are going to vote even sooner than that. just nine days from now in some states. we have the state of play covered for you. let's begin with senior washington correspondent joe johns. he has more on trump's child care plan. >> good morning, chris. well, this is clearly a play for the women's vote. and unveiling it in a critical state like pennsylvania is a political calculation. a bit unusual for a republican candidate, especially the idea of six weeks of paid maternity leave in the form of unemployment benefits for new mothers whose employers don't offer maternity leave. the critique on that is that this doesn't address leave for
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fathers. there are also some subsidies here otherwise known as tax breaks allowing parents to deduct the average cost of child care in their state based on the age of the child. and that would be available for up to four children, or elderly dependents. and the plan would also provide tax deductions for stay at home parents who have a working spouse. donald trump speaking last night explaining his proposal, but in the midst of it, also mischaracterizing the work hillary clinton has done on the very same issue. listen. >> for many families in our country, child care is now the single largest expense. who would think that? even more so than housing. yet very little meaningful policy work has been done in this area. and my opponent has no child care plan. >> what trump got wrong there is the last part about hillary clinton. in fact, she has had a child care plan up on her website for a year.
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her plan calls for 12 weeks of paid family leave, also essentially would put a cap on the cost of child care at no more than 10% of a family's income, and providing free pre-k for all 4-year-olds. the clinton campaign says the trump proposal doesn't go far enough. they put out a statement last night. it says after spending his entire career and this entire campaign demeaning women, dismissing the need to support working families, donald trump released a regressive and insufficient maternity leave policy that's out of touch, half baked and ignores the way americans live and work today. so back to you, alisyn. >> okay joe thank you very much. former secretary of state colin powell tearing into donald trump in a series of leaked e-mails exposing how powell really feels about the republican nominee. meanwhile, president obama slamming trump with some brand-new economic ammunition. cnn's correspondent phil mattingly has all of that. he's live for us in flint, michigan, this morning with more. hi, phil. >> hey, alisyn.
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yeah, colin powell has some thoughts you could say on donald trump. national disgrace. international pariah. among the words powell, in those private e-mails, used to describe the republican nominee. now powell hasn't publicly stated any of these things. as you noted his e-mails were hacked and those were some of the ways he described trump. the e-mails were confirmed authentic by a spokesperson for powell. now, president obama, he's not keeping anything private. these are his feelings on donald trump. >> i really, really, really want to elect hillary clinton. >> reporter: dubbed hillary clinton's surrogate in chief, president obama blasting donald trump's qualifications to replace him. >> one candidate who's travelled to more countries than any secretary of state ever has, and the other who isn't fit in any way, shape or form to represent this country abroad and be its commander in chief. one candidate's family foundation has saved countless
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lives around the world. the other candidate's foundation took money other people gave to his charity, and then bought a six-foot-tall painting of himself. >> obama rejecting trump's claim he is fighting for the working class. >> this guy who spent 70 years on this earth showing no concern for working people. this guy suddenly going to be your champion? >> reporter: in discrediting trump's portrayal of the economy. >> we have a false economy. we have a bad economy. >> by so many measures america is stronger and more prosperous than when we started out. on this journey together. >> reporter: obama's case bolstered by new u.s. census numbers showing the middle class wages rising for the first time since the recession. and poverty rates dropping sharply. the president also slamming trump for his praise of russian president vladimir putin. >> their nominee is out there
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praise iing a guy, saying he's strong leader because he invades smaller countries, jails his opponents, controls the press, and drives his economy into a long recession. >> reporter: trump fighting back on social media. tweeting, why isn't obama working? and russia took crimea during the so-called obama years. why does obama get a free pass? obama pressing the media to do more to hold trump accountable. >> donald trump says stuff every day that used to be considered as disqualifying for being president. and yet, because he says it over and over and over again, the press just gives up and they just say well, yeah, you know, okay. we cannot afford suddenly to treat this like a reality show.
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>> reporter: trump keeping up his attack on clinton for calling half of his supporters deplorable. >> well my opponent slanders you as deplorable, and irredeemable. i call you hard-working american patriots. >> reporter: and continuing to go after his rival over her one-time use of a private e-mail server. >> this is far bigger, and a far bigger scandal, than watergate ever was. >> chris you kex expect those attacks to continue today. one of his stops is here in flint, michigan. that's interesting for a number of different reasons. flint in the water crisis still going on here was a huge issue in the democratic primary. not so much at all in the republican primary. trump more or less avoided weighing in on this issue. but his campaign is coming here. there are plans for him to stop by and tour a water treatment plant. of note, this city is the second largest majority black city in the state of michigan. so trump continuing that outreach to minorities and working through at least public
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a address and arrive at a crisis that has been ongoing for now almost a year. >> and very interesting also a place that people will soon learn it's not a place where you go and just say what's wrong. these are a people who are desperate for answers. so we'll stay on that. phil thank you very much. let's discuss. we have the republican national committee's chief strategist and communications director mr. sean spicer. >> good morning. >> let's start with trump's child care proposal. >> sure. >> a quick note but to put to the side, trump goes out and says hillary clinton has no plan. untrue. she's had a plan for over a year. but that's politics, okay. he's wrong. we'll put it to the side. the plan itself. not typical gop thinking on this issue. we had steve king on. he was being diplomatic but he was saying well there's a couple of these things i've got to drill down on before we get to it and i've never seen a plan paid for by finding waste and fraud. problems? >> no, i think this is absolutely bold. as ivanka and mr. trump noted last night the way that our tax
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code was set up to deal with child care is almost 60 years old, right? the modern work force isn't dad goes to work and mom sits home. you now have two working parents in most cases and a lot of times the wife being the breadwinner. child care is one of the biggest expenses that families have to deal with. i think what was outlined last night was a really bold, fresh plan that recognizes the modern world that we live in now. that allow middle class and low-income families to address one of the biggest problems that families face. how to pay for child care. but one of the things that was really interesting about it was that it wasn't just about child care. it talked about dependent care and elder care, as well and recognized that the world that we live in now, sometimes, it's a sick individual or a family member, but it's also mom and dad now potentially moving back in, because they need to be cared for in a lot of cases. so the tax code doesn't recognize that aspect of how we live our lives know. and it ensures that we have the ability to care for our elder parents or family members that need care. >> democrats say that's what we've been telling you guys for ten years.
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can trump get his own party -- >> no, no. but i think the difference is the democrats talk about government providing everything. i think what you saw last night was a really bold, fresh, innovative way of ensuring that it's paid for, and that -- and that it recognizes the different facets of how -- >> what's innovative about how it's paid for. he said i'll pay for it by finding waste and fraud and abuse. >> looking at that unemployment aspect of it. the democrats just want to add up new spending. i think the difference is what trump did last night was made sure that he had a mechanism to address how to pay for it. >> he said i'll find waste, fraud and abuse. >> right. >> steve said he's never seen that work -- >> that's the problem. what trump is talking about overall is saying we're not going to have business as usual. we're going to go to washington, we're going to make change, and we're not going to settle for the status quo. >> let's talk about the state of play. hillary clinton says 50% of trump supporters are in the basket of deplorables. >> right. and the other 50% are desperate. i mean let's not forget that. it's not just that 50% are
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deplorable. it's that if you're not deplorable you've got to be desperate. >> trump plays to advantage and says look at the way she talks about you hard-working american. you can't be president when you talk like that. when he says hillary clinton has a hate-filled campaign a hypocrisy flag pops up and starts waving back and forth. who is donald trump to say that anybody is a hate filled campaign with all that he has said. >> look, first of all, every time that donald trump opens his mouth hillary clinton and every other democratic supporter and commentator goes off on donald trump. so he can't say this. when hillary clinton does it it's almost like in a lot of cases she gets a pass and everyone tries to explain what she really meant. the reality is, this achbs insight into what she thinks, not about one candidate or another. it's one thing for candidates to go back and forth. you and i have seen that. candidates go at each other. it's one thing to describe the entire degree of support that you're either this or you're that -- >> no but she didn't -- >> no, no, she didn't. >> she said 50%, she then said
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that was a mistake and she was talking about a small number of the alt-right people -- >> no, no, stop. >> that's what she said -- >> let's talk what she literally said. she said deplorable half of which are racist, sexist -- >> she said half was too much. >> and the other half, and then she said and the other half were desperate. okay. and then she came back the next day and she says i regret using the word half when speaking about deplorable. meaning she stands by the fact that some, a good whatever majority are still that but she never addressed the other half. >> so -- >> she never addressed that saying that the other half are desperate. >> understood and that's a point for criticism for her. but how do you set that up against this? when mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists, and some i assume are good people. if you look at his wife she was standing there. she had nothing to say. she probably maybe she wasn't allowed to have anything to say. a total and complete shutdown of
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muslims entering the united states. >> you call women you don't like fat pigs, dogs, slobs and disgusting animals. >> oh, i don't know what i said. oh, i don't remember! >> just a taste because how much do you really want to see? how does your candidate then become the man who's going to speak out against hate filled campaigns? >> and again i think one, donald trump's taken a ton of criticism from hillary clinton and others on some of those comments. two he's expressed regret for saying that he believes that when he caused -- >> never apologized for a single statement. >> my god he literally got out and said i regret the comments that i've made that have caused personal pain to other individuals. i've chosen words at incorrect, wrong time. i don't know how much more he could have said. and everyone says well he should have said more. he did express regret for the way he, he said certain things and addressed certain people. so he did do that. in a lot of those cases he's talking about other countries or foreigners. what this was, what makes this thing that hillary clinton did very, very different is she basically said that if you don't
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support me, hillary clinton, and you're an american citizen, then you're either deplorable, or you're desperate, and there's nothing in between. that's 20 million, 40 million people that fit into that category. that's a vastly different thing than singling out sometimes incorrectly so, a, a, a individual. >> if it's a numbers game, and i don't think it is by the way, but just to give you the you know the benefit of your own premise, there are over a billion muslims in this world and he had said he didn't want any of them in. and now he's changed because we're not like that in america and he's been learning that slowly. if it's a numbers game he still loses. >> no, no. there's a difference between addressing the safety of the united states and who we're going to let in and why, and -- >> he wasn't addressing the safety -- >> -- 20 million american citizens -- >> he's saying that faith is nefarious. that there's something wrong with it and we need to keep them out. that's what he was saying. he's changed but you got to own what you say. that's your point. >> what i'm talking about in that context he was talking about how to protect american citizens. what hillary clinton said was
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she was describing american citizens. that is a vastly different thing. >> except she said that she overreached with the 50%. and you're now doing what you accused them of, explaining what he meant instead of what he said. and you're doing very well at it. >> but i also think that there is a big difference between anyway we'll go round and round. there's a big difference, what she said described a huge, magnificent swath of american citizens that are voters in this country and it goes to her state of mind. which is if you're not with me, if you don't believe in hillary clinton, something's wrong with you. and i think -- >> state of mind, what did you go to law school all of a sudden? let me ask you about something else. your case is made and heard. >> by the way, the one thing that i think is really important to note, we've talked about this before but trump is starting his message continues to catch on. i've taukd about it before that it wasn't just the national polls we saw on ohio poll this morning from bloomberg up five. these polls in florida and ohio and nevada and iowa, are starting to mirror the national polls. they're all trending in the direction of donald trump. we saw a poll in maine that he's
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tied. he continues to press forward even states like pennsylvania we were down 10 and 12. we're now down three and four. >> true the polls are tightening. >> all of them. when you see his message. whether it's child care, national security, immigration, it's catching on. people are hungry for change in this country. they're either tired of the status quo, tired of a clinton that continues to tell you that i can live by one set of rules and you can live by another -- >> and he's also fanning a lot of flams of what make people angry which he had an entire field of republicans point out about him ad nauseam. it just wasn't effective because the mood was more important than their message. there is a chance that this man will be president of the united states. the polls are contracting. we're seeing that. what do you really know about him? this "newsweek" piece, it is odd. that your party's nominee is the first we've ever seen with this kind of business. we've never had a guy with this success in the modern era running for president. do you know anything about who holds the debt that he has about
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what his foreign relationships are and what they might mean? do you know anything about -- >> sure, look. he filed a 50-plus page financial disclosure form -- >> almost nothing in it about the nature of foreign partnerships. >> but what it does is it must by law require someone to list all of the assets that they have, and all of the debts that they are incurring. so everything is out there for folks to see. this -- >> no, we don't know who holds his debt, sean. we don't know. >> the piece that you're referring to is a hit piece and a recycled hit piece from "the wall street journal" that they did the other day. now "newsweek" recycled it. the fact of the matter is they never contacted the campaign, they never talked to anybody. what we have is a series of hit pieces instead of a substantive discussion as far as what the trump organization -- >> i'm asking you what you know -- i'm saying i can't have a substantive discussion about something where i don't have any of the facts. >> like i said, all of his debts and assets are outlined for anyone to go look at online through the federal election commission. >> that's not true. >> yes it is! >> here's what he did.
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he put out a list of assets, as he once -- >> no, as required by law. as required by law. >> but it doesn't -- but it didn't punish over reporting so he listed lots of assets, lots of money, lots of net worth that's what he wanted to do with that statement. we understand that. we don't know who holds his debt. we don't know who he does business with overseas. we do not know. it's not in that disclosure. bet your lunch on it. people can look for themselves. do you think we should know? >> i think he is a -- from the number of people that have run for president in terms of elected and unelected he's probably one of the most scrutinized people in the world when it comes to what's been written about him, who's been interviewed with him and i think he will continue to have that conversation with america. >> but it's a private organization. >> sure. >> only he can release the information. he has released none of it. >> but he has released what is required by law of every single candidate. and i mean -- >> but there is no candidate like him. >> okay but that's fine. but you can't turn around and say well he should be held to a different standard -- >> why. he's the only this applies to --
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>> the law was written to apply to all candidates. you can't turn around say okay because you have a successful businessman that's not a washington politician, he should now be held to a different standard. the reality is, is that he is running, because he's a successful businessman. he has met the requirements and the legal obligations of every politician. those politicians wrote the rules for what you had to disclose. and now what you want to do is say we want to hold him to a different standard. i don't think that's fire. >> sean spicer. appreciate you being on here. as always. >> thank you. >> donald trump's campaigning while hillary clinton recovers from pneumonia. is the clinton campaign concerned about questions about her health moving forward? we'll ask them, next. by willie nelson ]d again," ♪ on the road again [ rear alert sounds ] [ music stops ] ♪ just can't wait to get on the road again ♪ [ front assist sounds ] [ music stops ] [ girl laughs ] ♪ on the road again ♪ like a band of gypsies we go down the highway ♪ [ beetle horn honks ] no matter which passat you choose, you get more standard features, for less than you expected.
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people would cover up for her i think is frankly astonishing. >> that was donald trump's campaign manager kellyanne conway saying donald trump has more stamina than hillary clinton. so what happens when clinton returns to the campaign trail from her pneumonia bout tomorrow. let's bring in former democratic michigan governor and senior adviser for the pro-hillary clinton super pac correct the recorder jennifer granholm. excuse me governor. great to see you this morning. >> hope you don't have pneumonia. >> i hope i don't, also. i think this is just seasonal allergies. what about what kellyanne just said there which is that this has been the worst 48 hours of hillary clinton's campaign? do you agree? >> well, i'm sure for her because she feels lousy, it's not been a great 48 hours or a little bit longer. but you know, she had a great day yesterday in terms of surrogates. i think that president obama being out on the stump talking about not just her comparison with donald trump, hillary clinton's comparison with donald trump, but how the economy has rebounded according to census data yesterday. that's great news for her.
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five% jump or more, 5.2% in real wages. that's really good news for her. and when you have bill clinton going to california, she's got an a-plus in surrogates, who are taking care of business while she's recuperating. >> what this episode represented to many people and pundits and certainly her opponent was her lack of transparency. that there were questions after she was seen falling or fainting into her van. there was a lot of concern about what was going on. and only later, after 48 hours from friday for saying that you know she everything was fine she was diagnosed but we didn't know about it. on sunday they said she was dehydrated. then it calm out hours later that she had pneumonia. do you think she could have been more transparent? >> well her campaign said that they could have done it better. but, alisyn, within the -- from the time that she was seen being put into the van, until the -- it was all in the same news cycle that the media found out what had happened. how long has it been now since
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donald trump has not turned over his tax records? i mean what's more important to this election? he just had -- chris just had a great conversation with sean spicer about that news week article. truly what is more important to america? to know that your president, your potential president, has financial dealings with adversaries to the united states, with -- with -- with people who have been indicted in other countries, according to that "newsweek" article, people should read that article. you want to put the united states in jeopardy, put someone like donald trump in office, who refuses to say that he would disentangle himself from the trump organization, his kids would still be running it, and he's gaining profit every day from people who are doing business with countries that we have relationships with. is he going to pull his punches as president? because erdogan, from syria, he's got business relationships in syria, with somebody who is adversarial to erdogan. he's got big financial stake in the united arab emirates in
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india. this is serious stuff. i mean the fact that she had walking pneumonia and the news -- and the -- the -- the news media found out about it within the same news cycle compared to what we're seeing in terms of a lack of transparency from donald trump -- >> yes. >> -- is astonishing. what is important to the u.s. really? >> some of the things that you're saying of course were some of the same questions raised about the clinton foundation and the clinton global initiative in terms of alliances. i want you to make your point. in terms of alliances there were questions about whether or not the clinton foundation was doing some sort of deals with let's face it some shady characters. now that has come up in the "newsweek" article about the trump foundation or the trump organization i should say. so what's the difference to you? >> okay. okay. massive difference. first of all, she and bill clinton do not take one dime personally from the clinton foundation. that foundation raises money to do good works across the globe. it is totally transparent. all of the charity organizations
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that review the -- the overseers who review charity organizations have given the trump -- excuse me have given the clinton organization the highest rating. unlike the trump organization, which is operating totally in the dark. you don't know who he's got financial dealings with, and by the way he's going to profit personally. his family will profit personally from whatever the united states may decide about its relations with all of these countries. read people who are watching, read that "newsweek" article and tell us you don't think that he should reveal what his entanglements are across the globe. it is dangerous to the u.s. to have somebody who could potentially take office who has a financial interest in companies that do business in other countries and who may be making foreign policy decisions on your behalf the citizens. it is massively different than the clinton foundation. >> governor jennifer granholm, thank you for making the case this morning on "new day." let's get to chris. >> all right, here's what we
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double nickel. 55 days until election day. one candidate's going to win. the other is going to lose. that's probably the only thing we know. although who knows -- i was going to say we've seen that not happen before. gloria borger always on point. we need to take a closer look at what happens after for these losing candidates. what happens when they leave that spotlight. here's a preview. >> -- take the shot. the perfect title for the story
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of john mccain's run for the white house. >> thank you. >> chapter one, pick a vice president. and he knew exactly who he wanted. you can actually see russia from land here in alaska. >> no, not her. him. >> john mccain, our next great president. >> mccain's first love was senator joe lieberman of connecticut. an independent. >> he's honest, he's decent, he lives his religion, and we were very close and dear friends. >> so you did want him? >> of course. but it was going to cause a problem in the convention because joe lieberman was pro-choice. >> joining us now gloria borger, cnn chief political analyst and host of the cnn special report. almost president. the agony of defeat. >> yeah. >> which airs tonight. this is an unusual look at the implications of the biggest gain
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in politics. >> it's a human story. it's really much more of a human story than a political story. i mean just imagine all of these people. they are winners when they get to that stage. and then you're down to the final two and you're at the top of that mountain, and then overnight, a light goes off. and the secret service goes away, the adulation goes away, the crowds go away, and runner-up doesn't count. when you run for the presidency. and so, what i decided to do was talk to these people about what it was like to put everything in to something, and then a week later, as mitt and ann romney were, they were at the costco doing their grocery shopping. >> oh, my gosh is there any better symbol of how the mighty have fallen. >> no. and mitt romney said look you have to go shopping. you have to get back to your -- to your life. and it's not easy. >> and so when you went back and
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interviewed all these folks, is there a hollowness that was universal? are some relieved? >> i think michael dukakis might have been a little relieved. but no i think all of them, to a person, first of all, said they would do it all over again. no matter how badly they lost. walter mondale, 49-state loss, i would do it all over again. how great it was, you know, what kind of a great process it was and what they learned about it. but, mondale told me the story that he asked george mcgovern, you know, how do you get over? and george mcgovern said to him, when i figure it out, i'll let you know. >> but what i'm interested in this and there's no question that the human story is going to be interesting to people whether they're into how deep they're into politics or not. >> right. >> but, what you learned about why it didn't go your way. >> yes. >> is one of the most haunting things in politics, in whom they decide to blame and how much they put on themselves. mccain talking about wanting lieberman. if he had had lieberman in that race, it might have made a difference. >> right.
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>> but he felt that he had to do the hail mary pass with sarah palin. >> did he? or did he feel that he couldn't pick lieberman -- >> he felt he couldn't pick lieberman. he wanted lieberman. party said no. >> right. >> pro-choice. forget it. >> that's when the party mattered. not like now. >> exactly. these are the different times. so he picked sarah palin. it went in a different direction. the -- these candidates, what was stunning to me, and i think it takes a few years for these people to become reflective, politicians are not the most reflective people in the world generally, but after you lose you go over it in your mind. over and over and over again. and mccain said to me, look, i used to second-guess myself. i didn't do so well in the debates. i had, you know, romney, mitt romney, talks about the 47% and how badly he felt after he did that, because he let his people down. and to a person they all felt as if the struggle was worth it, they all believe of course they would have been better
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presidents, let me add that, but, that they let their supporters down through their own mistakes. they -- they -- they took a lot of -- they shouldered a lot of the blame here. and you know mondale believes it might have been a little easier for him because he knew he was going to lose. romney didn't think he was going to lose up until election night. so it's i think a little bit harder when you expect to win. >> oh, yeah. >> and then you don't. and that's really stunning. >> what a rude awakening. gloria borger, thanks so much for sharing it all, giving us a sneak peek. we can't wait to watch it tonight. join us this evening for a cnn special report almost president the agony of defeat that's 9:00 p.m. eastern. >> all right. so is the best way to fight fire with fire? presidential campaigns pushing back against tough questions by blaming us, your favorite people. how can that work? we have pulitzer prize winning columnist maureen dowd joining
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ever lived through. i mean this race has everything. it has russian hackers, white supremacists, fainting candidates, duelling federal investigations, kardashian-like tweets. islamaphobia, misogyny, racism. small hands. >> say no more. >> so it has -- so is that why everybody is so captivated? because it has all of the sort of hallmarks of reality tv, and a thriller, and all of that stuff that it's just -- it's entertaining? >> well i was thinking about this last night and i used to interview chris' dad and i interviewed him right before he was thinking of running, and you know, he gave me a copy -- and was agonizing about whether he was worthy. and i've noticed that people like your dad and colin powell, who have all this experience, to be president, agonize about whether they're worthy. especially of the sons of
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immigrants. and then the people who should be agonizing about whether they're worthy, like sarah palin, and w. and dan quayle and now trump never agonized. they don't think about it twice. they just jump right in. >> well as you know pop was a little bit of a different guy and what he used to -- one of the ways he would capture your genius he would say with maureen it's not the stick of the knife, it's the twist that is the genius. and what you do in your pieces very well about the -- the race is it is there is a there's a comical nature to it until you get to the stakes. and what seems to be happening in the race is all of the things that you usually want to control in the country, and try to improve on are getting worse. the tensions. the anger. they're starting to dominate the discussion. >> right. >> what's to be done? what good can come from this? >> you're right. in the beginning i thought it was kind of wicked fun. because that golden apple cart of the political consultant
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class and trump proved you could do it without money, and he was telling me one time when i was interviewing him in the book that he was going to do an instagram ad. he was doing his own instagram ads and he was going to have a bunch of chinese actors around a table going trump, no. >> i like that. >> it was kind of fun in the beginning but then the bigotry, you know, you don't want to see muslims and muslim children, abused in any way because he is spreading bigotry. so, then the fun kind of stopped. also i enjoyed him calling out, you know, all these republicans neocons who had helped get us into the war. i liked seeing him do that from the republican side. but as you say, then i think he followed the war of the crowd to a lot of darker places. and that may make it hard for him to be president.
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>> in your columns and in your book you always come up with different angles by which to sort of see this and take it apart, and the one that we're just talking about this morning is that there seems to be a role reversal in terms of gender roles a little bit in this rails. how do you see it? >> well, you know, for a couple of centuries, women were considered temperamently and biologically unsuited to hold a higher office. so in this race, there's someone who gets their feelings hurt really easily and their emotions are all over the place, and moody, and gossipy, and bitchy and sort of shrewish and hysterical sometimes, and that's -- oh, and also obsessed with hair care. and that's the male candidate. >> in this particular race. >> yeah, exactly. >> so -- >> wow. >> so how about this one? you know in full disclosure i often come to you for advice about how to do this job, and whether we're doing it right, am i making the right impact because you own your own voice. and you do what you think is
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right. how do you feel that you've done in covering this race? because we're getting a lot of scrutiny about whether or not we've advanced the ball for the people, or for the state of play in the ratings that come along with it. what's your take on how you've done and what you've seen in the rest of the corps? >> well i think this is obviously the hardest race, and the most interesting race to cover we've ever had. because it's cascading on different platforms, and trump can give us a speech that's the message of the day, and then tweet something crazy and that bms you can't keep up with it. and like also because of gucher if and the russian hackers things are spilling out constantly you can't even keep up with it. a lot of my friends won't read my interviews with trump because they just want to stick a silver knife through his heart, and other columnists. but i just think to the extent people can reveal themselves, that's a good thing. and i think the more they reveal themselves, the more the voters
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understand it. i -- i, you know, i think americans have a right to be angry. they got deceived into this war, you know, without even knowing what shia and sunnis are. they got -- they didn't realize that the economy was about to collapse. they didn't know what a derivative was. you know, the middle class is gone. people, you know, make fun of the basket of deplorables trump voters who are my family, actually, but you know, a lot of americans have a right to be angry. they're not all racist, and -- >> of course. i mean and so do you think that that comment will hurt her ultimately that she didn't seem to embrace the voters that like him, and that feel sort of sidelined? >> i think it was a condescending comment, yes. it was like the guns and -- >> obama's bunch of guns and your religion. what do you think winds up deciding the race? >> i don't know. you know, i -- peggy noonan had
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a good line that the voters were between anxiety over trump, and depression over hillary. and it's like, they don't want to vote for her but they're scared to vote for him. you know, it's -- they have the highest negatives of any candidates we've had in a long time, and people are voting against someone rather than for and that's kind of a sad place to be. >> maureen dowd the book is "the year of voting dangerous question." it is a great read, great cover. thanks so much for being here. >> thank you. >> you're a great guest. you should do more of this maureen dowd. >> you guys are my favorite. i watch every morning. >> thank you very much. >> we'll put a camera in your house to make it easy for you. >> please don't. >> we'll see you soon. >> okay, thank you. >> time for "newsroom" and carol costello right after this very quick break. we'll see you tomorrow. the cur. and bold styling to stay ahead of the curve. the lexus rx, rx hybrid and rx f sport.
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