tv CNN Tonight With Don Lemon CNN November 4, 2016 8:00pm-9:01pm PDT
♪ ♪ ♪ >> one more time for the one and only queen b tonight. once you divide us, you weaken us, we're stronger together. once you divide us, you weaken us. we are stronger together, and without further ado, i would like to introduce to you, the next president of the united states, ms. hillary clinton.
>> thanks to jay-z and beyonce, and thanks to chance the rapper, and jay coal, and big shawn. when i see them here, this passion and energy and intensity, i don't even know where to begin because this is what america is, my friends. >> straight to cnn's brianna keilar tonight at that event. had you the best duty at the net work tonight, the jay-z and beyonce concert. tell us how it went down. >> reporter: not a bad way to
spend a friday night and that was what thousands at the center thought tonight. the performance, which is what everyone came for was fantastic, but it was really the messages that were particularly interesting coming from jay-z and beyonce, and talking about the first female president, he was equating with it being the first black president, and took aim at donald trump, not by name, but he said he was divisive, and he said that he was an evolved soul and then you heard beyonce really talking as a mother, to a daughter, and about president importance of a female president and hillary clinton gave some very short remarks. it was certainly noted don that a lot of people came more for the concert, but she urged them to get out to vote. and all of this here tonight in ohio is about her attracting young, african-american voters,
trying to get to them pto the polls. young black voters went for bernie sanders, just as all other younger voters did. we really saw that divide across lines so hillary clinton has been slow in bringing them around. she talked it to them about criminal justice reform, but also for young black voters, they have found out through this election about some of the things she's said in the '90s, supporting her husband's crime bill, and jay-z and beyonce and these other acts here tonight trying to help forget some of that attention and trying to get people out to the polls. >> brianna keilar, thank you. i adopt bring in david swerdlick. is it going to make a difference in ohio where she has been behind for a while? >> so, don, again, you know i'm skeptical about ohio at this
point. for weeks put it look at the real clear politics polling average, ohio has been in the trump column. right now it's trump by about 3%. i just don't know if there's enough days left for hillary clinton to change that. to the biggest picture, what brianna was saying really hints at what is key for the clinton campaign. this idea that, look, in the primaries, younger voters of color, african-americans, latino voters were skewing towards bernie sanders. now between hillary clinton and donald trump, there's no indication voters of color will go for trump, but the question is whether they will come out for hillary clinton, or stay home and that is what the trump campaign is rallying against. president obama, michelle obama, out on the trail for them tournd
score th to underscore this idea, now it's down to this binary choice, the two, third, and fourth party candidates, this is a choice younger voters are simply going to have to make and they want people to think there is their future. >> and you mentioned the president being out there the president was in north carolina, and i want you to listen to how he handled a protester who interrupted him and how the audience responded. >> now listen up, i'm serious. listen up. you've got an older gentleman who is supporting his candidate. he -- he's not doing nothing. you don't have to worry about him. this is what i mean about folks not being focused. first of all -- first of all, we -- holed up.
hold up. first of all, we live in a country that respects free speech. so second of all, it looks like maybe he might have served in our military and we ought to respect that. third of all, he was eldearlier like a and we have to respect our elders, and fourth of all, don't boo. >> david, let's be honest. that is how you handle a protestor. that's how you handle a protester, a stark difference to the protest rallies, get him out of here, or punch him in the face, or i'll pay your legal bills, that's how you do it. >> that's how you handle a protestor. it speaks to president obama, having at moral authority. his approval ratings are in the mid-50s. he's popular. even people that don't agree with him on issues see him as someone who can speak with moral
authority and he handles without coming across as a scold simply saying let's maintain calm, and order. >> he's supporting his candidate. he's a veteran. we must thank him for his service or honor him. it was just a lesson. >> it was masterful. >> it was a master class in how you handle a protest and didn't demean the man at all. this is about the exact moment president obama had with the protester. i want you to listen to how it was described by donald trump to his supporters. >> you saw it today on television, right? he was talking to the protestor screaming at him, really screaming at him. by the way, if i spoke the way obama spoke to that protestor, they would say he became unhinged, he became -- you have to go back and look and study and see what happened. they never moved the camera and he spent so much time screaming
at this profitor and franktestot was a disgrace. >> was at the watching the same tape? what's going on? >> it's a total mischaracterization. let's acknowledge trump has been on mess anage and he's gaining secretary clinton in the polls but his characterization of the president is completely off and doesn't bear out for anyone who has been watching your show for the last five minutes, don, president obama was measured, made a series of points that really no thinking american could disagree with and again he doesn't do it in a way that scolded anybody. it simply showed that he could regain order, and as you said, don, support his candidate without putting down a protestor. >> thank you, david. i appreciate it. >> thank you, don. i want to turn to maria elena salinas, a news anchor for univision. maria, we've been talking about the black vote being down. >> it's my pleasure. >> there's evidence the hispanic vote is way up.
what are you seeing and hearing? >> definitely the hispanic vote sun across the country, but particularly in florida, which is one of the states that's most important to this election. in fact early voting among hispanics increased 129% since 2008, and as we know, one of the most important areas is the i-foi-4 corridor, and there's been 170,000 more voter registration among hispanics since 2012. so there definitely is an increase of people interested in voting, people that are registered to vote and people casting their vote early. >> and people donald trump never went to the aftlatino communiti the attacks on judge curiel, the bad ombres, the comments about alicia machado.
i would imagine there have been even bigger issues in the hispanic media no? >> they definitely have been, and we have been covering it since the beginning, since the very first day in 2015 when he launched his campaign accusing immigrants particularly mexican immigrants of being rapists, of being criminal, drug dealers, building the wall and one of the things that affected a lot of people and realized that donald trump's issue was not only with undocumented immigrants is when he attacked judge curiel. judge occur yacuriel is mexican-american, and he called him a mexican and said he could not do his job because he was a mexican and you're building a wall. you're problem is mexicans and latinos in general, not specifically with undocumented immigrants so yes we've been covering it quite a bit and our viewers are very interested, they're very engaged.
we had incredible numbers in the debates. we've had incredible numbers in our social media of people responding and according to the pew hispanic center, there's 53% increase in interest among latinos in politics. >> this was tim kaine in phoenix. listen to this. >> [ speaking spanish ] >> do you think the latino and hispanic community may under the power they have in this election? >> i think they do understand the power and i think little by little they're realizing they could make a difference.
it's interesting that he gave that speech in arizona because arizona is a very important state and even though donald trump is up in the polls, the hispanic vote could make a huge difference. they're more than 21% of the electorate and there's been huge movement in people come have become citizens in registering to vote. let me tell you an okayeanecdot about arizona. there was an increase in 165% of latinos who registered to vote and let's remember also that russell pierce was voted out of office because of hb 1070. so i really think that's going to have an impact. the fact that he speaks spanish of course might not, although a lot of people see it as a form of respect, and attention to our culture. but not necessarily a reason to vote for someone. >> maria elena cilinas, i really enjoyed having your perspective. will you please come back on the show more often? >> of course, i'd love to. thank you, don. >> thank you very much for
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very important matter, voter suppression, and thousands of people stripped from the voting roles, and a big victory. >> the judges purges of all thousands of these people had to be returned to the roles and allowed to vote and all of this activity had to cease across the state of north carolina, where the group ally sends out a bunch of mailings, if they come out undelivu undelivererab undelivererable, and they challenge them in bulk form, and people find out in the newspaper that their voter registration has been challenged. >> reverend, there's been a lot of talk about the black vote being down. how much of that is a lower degree of enthusiasm for hillary clinton, or how much is the stuff that we have been reporting on here about a lack of polling places in black
areas, not opening polls on sundays and things like that? >> first of all, let me just say to everybody vote in north carolina tomorrow is the last day of early voting. we have same-day registration and early voting we won in the courts, and if you need any information, call 1888-our-vote. don n o don, in our state, the gop keeps speaking, and the court keeps speaking. we've had 60 marches to the pales and we have 158 fewer polling places than we had in 2012. some places, where we would have 16 early voting sites the first week, we only had one. the gop sent a letter out and said, told them to implement rules that reflected gop values, and not so much the spirit of the law and the constitution. so we're battling, don, against
voter suppression, but people are fighting. people are coming back, and now the numbers are pickiticking up because early voting sites have been added, hbcu campuses, and this victory will help in a major way. >> it may not be -- there may be more to that not lack of enthusiasm, and it just made people cannot get to the polls. i want to talk about this before i let you go. it's not just in north carolina, there's federal judge in ohio, issued a temporary restraining order against trump friend and advisor roger stone and his group called stop the steel. that group was mobilizing to send poll watchers into minority democratic areas. judge james gwen said it prohibits hindering or delaying a voter from leaving the polling place, challenging voters about their eligible to vote or training organizing or directing originizers to do the same,
interroga interrogating, admonishing, or verbally harassing voters. questioning voters under the guys of the purported exiting journalists, recognize by the defendants stop and steal. with these kind of voter suppression efforts keeps african-americans from turning out, do you think it's going to -- will it motivate them now? >> i believe so. i've been preaching a message, we better vote and it's hard to taking some t must mean you have power, must mean you can make a difference. we're organizing thousands of poll watchers. we have 12,000 faith centers to turn the seat out. we're mobilizing 450,000 pooss pieces of voter registration, and the washlz post did a story yesterday, and this chases back to what the clan did, and intimidate people, and we've been through worse, we've seen
worse, we have -- we won the right to vote through listynchi and people being beaten, bloodied, and killed and we can stand up to somebody who will come knocking you. let them come and watch us vote. we're not going to be intimidated. >> tonight in arizona, democrats won a third case, reverend, against the voter suppression efforts. you've been fighting the good fight for a long time. did you think that from the very beginning you would be facing these tactic now in 2016? >> you know, don, that's the sad irony of it. one of the latest that was challenged in this personal knowledge is 100 years old and she found out in the newspapers. this is a woman who came through jim crow. our lead plaintiff, against house bill 589, the monster voting bill jim crow is 93 years old. i think about my mother. my mother integrated public
schools. she's 83 years old and still goes to school every day. she looked at me one day and said son i never thought i'd have a child august 1963, two days after the march on washington, who would be facing some of the same kind of challenges we faced them, but she got that e-mail, and that squint, and you-all better fight. my momma told me don. and so we've been -- people told us we were going to lose. they told us we couldn't beat them. they spent $6 million of our taxpayer money trying to take the right to vote and a bridge to vote. we went to jail, we stood and we went to courts and we won and we have to use this victory by voting. i tell folks, momma said you better vote. >> you always listen to mom a. listen i went to the barber shop today and she sad i like your hair short, and i said my momma likes it when i have more hair on my head, she wants, momma said, and momma's always right. >> that's right. >> thank you, i appreciate it.
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okay. four days until election day and the polls show the race is tight. here to discuss now, two prince university professors. they are the co-host of the pod cast politics and polls, so let's get it. welcome to the show. sam, you first. this is the latest cnn poll of polls shows clinton ahead of trump by 5 percentage points, and this is our newly updated electoral college map. clinton has 268. trump has 204. you do want your own models. your math of clinton is what? >> currently on the appointments and election consortium, the medium is 312 electoral, and 226 for trump. >> why do you think -- 312, that's quite a difference, 312, to 226. >> i take state polls and i c k
calculate what the middle outcome is, the median, and is the most accurate snapshot where things are at any given moment and that's at about 312. >> we're one week after the comey letter. we're back at a five percentage difference before the comey letter. things have changed a lot in one week. >> my calculation is based on state polls. they move a little bit slowly. national polls like what you just cited move pretty fast, so things are come being back and what we should expect is things to turn to where they were about a week or two ago and that was again over 300 electoral votes for hillary clinton. things have stayed, in some sense, about the same. >> what states would surprise you if donald trump won? >> i would be surprised if he won north carolina. i would be surprised -- i would be really surprised if he won pennsylvania. >> okay. >> i -- currently, i actually am thinking that he's probably going to lose nevada so i think those are states that are close but if i had to guess those are states that would go for hillary
at the moment. >> when you wake up to these kinds of headlines julian, white nationalists plot election day show of force. election day concerns of violence are a vowing total war. hate base fear driving political anxiety. how does that weigh on us? >> i worry about it. i think we've seen a lot of serious evidence, both anger in the electorate, belief that system is rigged, and obviously threats of monitoring on voting day, which we've had a history of doing that. so it doesn't come out of nowhere. so i think there's serious concern about the tone of the last month and what kind of impact it can have and it also plays into our very polarized electorate that we have. so even before donald trump we had a country where some of the electorate doesn't like or trust the other part of the electorate, so you add to it some of this rhetoric and i think it can be a very toxic environment. >> had you a very interesting e-mail exchange with each other and you can read about it on cnn.com, and here's what you
wrote, sam, i've seen some great work trying to get at where trump voters come from, and the wing of the gop they represent. this was the year whites became an interest group and not the overwhelming group by default and it is the details of polls that told us about it. what does that mean? >> if you look at white voters. you can start seeing divisions even among white voters so it's something like white nationalists, which have always been to some extent, pretty quick, and have come to the forefront and they are a pretty important part of trump's voice, so you can see people like evangelicals, white nationalists, whites who didn't go to college, those are groups that are swinging towards trump, whites who did go to college are swinging away, so you can see these groups that are -- you know it's the way we would talk about miss panhis panic voters interesting to see these
subgroups become identity groups, and it's part of the polarization of the last two years how they're going to vote because of their subidentitiesu >> and looking at donald trump not as a person who steps in and creates a new republican party, but looking how the republican party got to this point, where donald trump would be their nominee, and there's roots to this. in some ways you could predominate iktd donald tru pre donald trump. you could predict some of his arguments being mainstream, and this really wealthy guy who lives on this tour. against immigration, that's been something that's been bubbling up in the gop for over a decade. george w. bush learned about this when he tried to pass a liberal information bill and
clashed with his own party. a lot of the policy issues and some of his style comes at a republican politics for several decades now. >> when you see what's happening, you saw president obama trying to calm, you know, the crowd today with the protestor and you see the -- many things happening out on the campaign trail, and what about the anxiety level this particular time? >> one thing that's interesting is as politics become more polarized, voters have become less persuadable. so the clinton over trump margin has only about between 2% and 7%age points and a lot of that appears to be associated with deep emotionalality. the american psychological association has come up with days to deal with the stress. >> as a country continues, to become more diverse and less white, does that anxiety
increase? does that -- the polarization increase? does it become -- >> if you look at these different demographic groups, but also blacks, asian americans have swung really hard from the republican column to the democratic column, nonchurch going whites, that's probably something that's going to continue after the election. >> thank you, sam, upg thank you, julian. >> an ugly moment from a top trump supporter, what he said about hillary clinton. na double. but dad, you've got... allstate. with accident forgiveness they guarantee your rates won't go up just because of an accident. smart kid. indeed. it's good to be in, good hands. for the holidays. before his mom earned 1% cash back everywhere, every time. [ dinosaur growls ] and his dad earned 2% back at grocery stores and wholesale clubs. yeah!
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betsy mccoy, and hillary clinton supporter and political commentator, scottie nell hug s hughes. you can smack me. >> we're just going to dance all night. >> bless your dear heart. >> what did you think of beyonce having -- asking you you've got a whole lot of attention for that. >> i say bees and lemons for everybody. >> you don't want to go up against them if you had to? honestly. >> it looked very entertaining. >> do you think it could make a difference? >> look. i think you know, jay-z, to give him credit, people have criticized his lyrics, over the past couple of years. he's become more and more socially engaged and subconscious, and beyonce, alicia keys and for him to bring that firepower there, hillary clinton doesn't have big rallies on her own. she's having a surrogate surge like you wouldn't believe and tonight was probably the -- the
peak of it. >> they can probably fill a room almost as full with beyonce and jay-z has donald trump can by himself. >> and you and i have had conversation it's. >> mic drop. >> you and i have had conversations about lyrics and this show on cnn, and many people in the community do not agree with that and they -- there's trend away from that at least with some of the -- >> and what's very interesting about the clinton campaign is they have the two twin weapons, they have both the black clufhu and hip hop. those are two very powerful weapons to bring to bear in ohio. >> you were part of the music industry. do you think that makes a difference? >> i think that it's -- the lyrics are their own and the art cyst speaking but the most important thing is the -- they're fans. i don't think they're tearing apart the lyrics. i think they're feeling the experience and i think when you have events like, this kenty perry in philly, and farrell, it
legitimatizes hillary clinton in a way with a population that got excited about barack obama, barack obama can't be everywhere here, and -- and this does help. it creates enthusiasm. >> if we had the moment you don't have to play the sound, but just when jay-z introduced hillary clinton and she's standing in the middle, i think that's the moment that you're talking about and i want to discuss that. do you think these big artists and names make a difference? >> i think in the past i was a part of the rock the vote generation and that made a huge push in the '90s of getting the young vote out there. i think it's a little bit different with social media and i have to wonder are these folks going to be -- it might have been just as effective if maybe they had loud speakers at the voting boxes on tuesday, whiting for hours in lines and keeping people there. are people going to be singing the whole sound track of beyonce and jay-z while they wait in line. >> the lemonade sound track. >> it is a long one. and you have to talk about the desperation of this. why is she bringing them in now?
is all the sudden there's panic mode? they should have done this to be more effective maybe a few weeks or months ago. >> i think she's facing an uphill battle because median income is down for african-americans, labor participation rates are down for african-americans, food stamp depends is up 58% under barack obama for african-americans so she has to compensate for his bad record with african-americans. >> did you see the jobs numbers today? >> go ahead, van. >> republicans come out and they say all this sort of stuff and you know what, people feel so terrible about barack obama in the black community that he's 98% support from the black community so i just don't -- i don't think that she's -- people in the black community feel terrible. >> and by the way almost 60% in the entire countries of approval for barack obama. >> i'm going to compare and contrast. that was a big moment tonight
when you have beyonce and jay-z. this is john sununu, trump supporter. >> do you think bill was referring to hillary when he said, i did not have sex with that woman? [ laughter ] >> so betsy, did you think that was funny? >> that was a quote out of history. >> his crowd thought that was very funny and he's playing to his crowd. >> do you think that's funny though? >> i think it's funny. i think it's funny because it reminds republican voters these accusations about sexual misconduct have been going on as long as politic it's. >> would you like that if your husband said that about you? if somebody said that about your marriage? would you think that was funny? >> hillary clinton started it. >> hillary clinton doesn't think it's funny either. >> like ponies on a rope, making false charges against donald trump. >> he was talking about hillary
clinton and inferring -- talking about her attractiveness about a woman. >> i don't think so. >> can we play that again, please? >> you think bill was referring to hillary when he said, i did not have sex with that woman? >> nerlens noo one heard you, s >> everyone, if you live on mars, knows he was referring to monica lewinsky. >> the question is right now, why are we talking about this. >> yes. >> because he said it. >> i'm not talking about why is he bringing this up three days out at the rally. >> that was my question. was that appropriate. >> and both sides, to be fair, both sides have said -- their surrogates have said nasty things. mark cuban went after donald trump and said he was a version of a jag off and he received some criticism of it. sometimes surrogates do not say
the right things. let's face the reality. we are three days out from election day and right now everybody at this table we're on the same team. i think the majority of americans are making a decision if they've not vote the whether or not they're going to vote and all of us want to encourage by seeing the fighting and these comments, all that does is encourage the people to stay home. that's not a good thing. >> sununu should have led with obamaca obamacare, because the people of new hampshire are suffering so incredibly under obamacare. >> i've got to take a break. i just -- see the part i circle audio scottie for the win. what does that say? >> or in any way appropriate for the presidential race. we think alike, don lemon. >> we'll be right back. my belly pain and constipation?
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he said he doesn't. >> donald trump said that he knew. >> then i think trump should answer whether he's appropriate person. i don't have those facts. >> what's interesting. i remember, we had conversations many times, how concerned and afraid we were as democrats of a chris christie he was the one we thought do what donald trump did. outsider but brash personality and color and flash and quick tongue. all getting ready to deal with this guy and just went down like a lead balloon over this scandal. i often wonder what would have happened if you had a true clash of the titans between a chris christie at full strength and donald trump. i don't know but i tell you what, democrats dodged a bullet with this guy. formidable. no longer. >> i was a fan, ann coulter were
very supportive four years ago but grass roots movement didn't like what happened with the hurricane and all the extra funds that never got distributed to the people. said because of barack obama but that wasn't. didn't like to see the wasteful pork spending. conservative movement that propelled donald trump never get behind chris christie. any fear would be marco rubio. without the gang of eight immigration bill -- >> donald trump said will go to washington and drain the swamp and people saying should have started with chris christie. >> wouldn't have known until today. >> but already said he thought he knew. >> funny we're talking about -- >> this is why it's relevant. looking at john sun uninew versus jay-z, republicans will
never have the presidency in my view if they don't deal with this unique white male problem. >> that's -- biggest problem in this election is male shaj. i'm telling you when i hear this. >> let me finish and then disagree with me. >> i feel sorry with every white man in this country. >> let me finish. donald trump has not been able to get enough women and people of color. that is a majority of people in this country, to vote for him. chris christie might have had a shot. got elected this new jersey with more latinos and some african-american votes and college educated women. not where donald trump is. republican party is permanently disabled if they don't broaden the base. >> that's one thing but singling out white males as if villains should be at back of the line and accused of things. >> i didn't say that at all.
>> that's problem in the campaign. >> i talked a voter bloc. >> i hear it again and again when i hear a man can't call a woman nasty but woman can call a man just about everything. >> context. >> that's happening in this campaign. >> all due respect and i don't like different groups put down but i didn't hear anybody say that. i thought she was talking about a voter bloc when everybody else talks about and giving advice for how your party could be more successful. >> this several african-americans out on the stump. larger and more diverse surrogate group than any republican candidate. more an issue with the republican party. also lopgz dealing with government entitlements that republicans stand overall against and try to limit,
interesting to see whether or not can get into the diversity groups. >> and whether or not -- >> majority of government entitlements go to white people. i don't know the point you just made, sounded like you were saying minorities get -- >> no saying as long as talking about government entitlement and voter i.d. laws that republican party stands for doesn't resonate. >> that's whole nother issue. >> lot of criticism going into the inner cities, talking about the importance of school choice and economic programs to lift up people who are mired in poverty. he took a lot of criticism for that as if he didn't have right to address these groups. >> i will tell you clearly, i think both political parties should do a much better job talking about poverty. i think the democrats have not done as well as they might on urban poverty and republicans on rural poverty which we never
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enterprise because while we understood that women were doing amazing work, still dirt poor. on average for the women we serve, first sexual assault between seven and p 11 years old. so horrific. and doesn't have to be end of the story. it's just a chapter. >> vote for becca or your favorite top ten heroes now. thanks for watching. see you back here at special time on sunday night at 10:00. tune in then. good night. good evening, thanks for joining us. big new developments going into the final weekend from election day. including a court ruling to affect who votes. candidates are holding events in battleground states and