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thanks for the bug, at least there is one democratic that doesn't lie. i don't know that she a democrat but he is a man of his word. >> i think you should run for president in four years, any chance? >> zero, i'm out of time unfortunately, tweet me @smerconish, i'll see you next week. you're live in the cnn news room. we are following major antitrump protests now under way in cities across the united states. thousands on the streets in new york, los angeles, and indianapolis protesti the future president. this is the fourth straight night of demonstrations. we have reporters on the ground with the protestors. but the president elect himself answering questions about his social media use. he says he won't give it up, but
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he promises to be restrained. kellyanne conway also speaking tonight with a huge teaser about the chief of staff. >> you know, it's imminent. >> is reince the one do you expect? >> i think chairman priebus has expressed interest in the position. there are several people being considered and it's mr. trump's decision ultimately. >> i'm -- imminently. >> i don't know if i'm waiting with baited breath tonight or tomorrow. the time line is potentially as early as monday. definitely soon, deafenly at some point next week we believe, certainly we heard from her who also said it's likely the next time we see him publicly is in
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the next couple days. that fives us a sense of what his time line is. reince priebus is among the options, also steve ban non, donald trump likes to poll a lot of people, hear from a lot of people, trump family, paul ryan, mitch mcconnell, they're all behind reince priebus. it is his decision althoughly. >> like the vp pick, right? his family and insiders pushing him towards mike pence, he was going another way, and then he came to mike pence. also a new interview, right, that trump has done with 60 minutes. he talks about his use of twitter and social media. >> yeah, that is a big question.
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usually they were sent out at all hours of the night. and that is something that we wondered if it would carry over to the presidency. would he will tweeting president. trump talked about it a little bit. >> i'm going to do very restrained if i use it at all, i'll do it very restrained. it's a modern form of communication. there should be nothing to be ashamed of. i really believe that the fact that i have such power in terms of numbers with facebook, twitter, instagram, i think it helped e me win these races. i won, i think social media has more power than the money they spaent and i think to a certain extent i proved that.
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>> trump really crediting his win to the use of social media, but two things really jumped out to me there, he said very restrained on the possibility of using twitter and social media as president, and he said if i use it at all. that is a big question mark if he will be hopping on twitter like we saw during the campaign. >> he would then be tweeting from the potus accountant, right? >> yes, and as we have seen in president obama's account, most of them are generated from staff. when they are written by the president, he signs them with a b.o. but there is oversight over every word on twitter into a big question now whether or not trump would be relegated to the same kind of oversight. >> thank you, as i said we're monitoring the protests
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developing night. we're live tonight in los angeles in has been going up for hours there on end. i know at one point it was getting tense in one area, how is it now? we should explain, it has been going on for about six hours. what whooer seeing now is a slightly different protest. this is still an anti-trump protest, and you see from the signs here, there is a number of issues that brought them out here. abortion rights, undocumented immigrants, anti-muslim bigotry. there is a number of issues. but this is a smaller group, we're seeing 250 or 300 people here. earlier in the day what we saw was something pretty rare to see in los angeles. there was 8,000 people according to the lapd that took to the streets. they locked the streets, they
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weaved through los angeles. the people there were families, people across incomes, across the city of los angeles, they came to show their displeasure with what has happened in the election into what we're seeing now a lightly different crowd. way up there, if you can see the lapd, they're trying to coral the protestors. right now we're in front of city hall, and there have not been any arrests or major confrontations. they had some slight confrontations and yelling, something that los angeles has seen every night here since the election. 187 people were arrested by the lapd and they're hoping to avoid that this evening. >> thank you so much.
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>> let me bring in my panel, he is ceo. alice stewart is with us, she is ted cruz's former communications director, and it is nice to have you all with us. mark, i have not seen you in awhile, let me dive in. you said they could not ask losing values, how do you think the energy can be turned into effective change? >> i think it reminds people that our solutions to our problems won't just come through voting. it won't just come through partisan shzi partisanship. it all comes from people who are
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going to the streets and voicing their concern and their criticism. i'm glad to see people doing that now. we can win the war if we take to the streets to prioritize and plan for 2018 and 2020 as well. >> is it a war for those things? we don't know how donald trump will govern. one of my colleagues wrote a fascinating piece today and had the quote -- so many converse things, he was on both sides during the campaign on some of the issues. and she already, for example, talking publicly about leaving
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parts of obama care as they are. >> i think we can start off by looking at some of the issues that the protestors are saying. donald trump said he wants to be a president for all of america. even hillary clinton said we need an open mind and give him the benefit of the doubt while he leaves. while many of us disagree, he is all of our president, and we have to give him a chance to succeed. and what we have seen with regard to campaigning vemently. he may be more lean yant than we may have thought going into this. >>. >> robert, let me bring part of
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your opinion piece in the times from this week. the loudest voice of this election was not the new american demographic groups, but mr. trump's ageing and raging white christian supporters. why do you put it that way? >> one of the remarkable things that happened in barack obama's presidency, you know, he was the s symbol of a new america. one of the biggest ones really went under the radar and is the theme of my book. it is that we really have shifted from being a majority white christian nation to being a minority white christian nation. only 43% of americans today identify as white and christian. that is an enormous change.
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we are now seeing the first co-hort of public school students not being white. and it would be the first year that america would be a ma yourty n -- majority not white country. we asked in mid october, and i think it goes to the heart of the election, it is a white n white nostalja election. the parties are mirror images of each other. two thirds of democrats say it's for the better, two thirds of republicans say it's for the worse. and prod assistants say it has changed for the worst.
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we're deeply divided and i think it is fuelling the very different visions of our country. >> alice, do you think this was a white nostajia vote. >> seven in ten people wants change, hillary clinton represented more of the same and donald trump represented change. that is what we're seeing at the bottom line. and i am -- with regard to the e v -- evangelical vote. they want a president that will appoint conservative supreme court justices. he committed to doing that and i think that was a big rallying cry. i think it was more of a vote for change than anything else. >> thank you we're going to take a quick break and but have more after this.
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okay, we're back with my panel. first, we're following thousands protesting trump. this is the fourth night a row of protests. also in news, president elect trump could very soon announce his choice for chief of staff. my panel is back with me. alex stewart, also with us is mark. when you look at sort of what is next for the democrats, do they have a role in dreaddressing wh is happening on the streets of america? what about democrats like you, should they have a voice in this. >> yeah, the democratic party, but everybody, i would take the
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same position as myself. i think we all have a responsibility to help shape and challenge this democracy. he has an obligation to meet with the folks on the gunshot wound and talk with them, we have a responsibility, we have a responsibility as well. one responsibility is to talk and listen to donald trump, chang him on policy. and responsibility on the ground. we can't forget that. it is weird to hear them talking about he is the worst thing to ever happen since world war two. and then the next day they're like we can work with him. pe have to use tack tises not just in the political system. we have to take to the ground, organize, we have to listen, talk, and one more thing, democrats, i think, have to make it very clear and articulate
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position about where they stand. harry reid did that. he said i'm not ready to be conciliatory yet. >> i have here what harry reid said. senate minority leader, on his way out, but he said the election of trump has embolden the forces of hate and bigotry in america. and to you, robert, let me ask you about this, you just wrote this opinion piece about the divide win america right now, right? and there is a upcoming kkk parade scheduled to celebrate trump's victory in north carolina, and the republican party has condemned it, should donald trump come out publicly and specifically talk about this planned event and condemn it? >> i think there is no doubt. there is a possibility for any president to denounce hate and bigotry in our country. i think that is a no brainer.
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and i think this is one of the real challenges that, you know we do have more voices like this coming out, and one of the things that trump could do as president here is remember that this is a closely divided election with hillary clinton winning the popular vote, donald trump winning the electoral college. it is also important to remember that things like building a wall never has majority support. so when it is not about getting the important from the base, the base of his party, i think reaching across the aisle and remembers a responsibility that he has as president, he may not have quite had as candidate, but certainly has as president looms very large. i think the realities of the responsibilities of the president of the united states. one of the biggest believe pulpits in the world, is just
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enormous here. alice, they're literally standing outside of trump tower, should he invite them up, meet with them, open a dialogue? >> i think it would be a great gesture if there was an organized meeting with the people planning these protests and whether or not it was donald trump or his staff, the top people in his campaign or administration. we're seeing protests across the country are well organized, well attended, they're working with the police to keep them moving, properly, and doing things fairly. i think that is good. i think if they stick together with leaders from the trump team, that would go a long way. also with regard to what to do moving forward, i think it is imperative for the dnc to go ahead and get a new head of the dnc as quickly as possible.
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get structure and organization on that side. also tell these protestors, i think they're stronger heard if they reach out and push their ideas on their democratic or whatever members of their congressional delegation to affect change in washington. that's the best way they go about making change in washington when we have a republican controlled house and senate and they appeal to their individual members. >> mark, i read someone who wrote, who is a republican that said remember when we were on the streets protesting in 2008 and 2012 when barack obama won the presidency, nope, neither do i, we waited eight years and protested at the voting booth. >> the tea party didn't get started last week. the tea party was started right after barack obama was president, there was a movement, they said it was a fiscal responsibility to change the direction of america. people hit the streets
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immediately. the outrage wasn't as big as it is right now, but that's because the election was not as contested, but people on the right took to the streets immediately and they had every right to do so. i didn't like the burning of the effigy -- you're seeing that now frankly in modelins of donald trump being burned. most were protesting the person's policy, not him as a person. most people are protesting donald trump the figure now. the president in waiting, not him as a person. >> i'm getting the wrap. an important conversation, thank you all for being part of it. >> thank you. >> coming up, there is one man donald trump has talked about more than anyone when it comes to making great dealing, carl icon.
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welcome back, while donald trump was celebrating on tuesday night, the stock market was plummeting.
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he was at the election party, but he left early when he saw futured down nearly 900 points. the market bounced back in the morning. carl icahn is one of donald trump's biggest supporters. sir, i appreciate you being with me. you said the election did something very important for our economy in general what is the single most important thing that president trump can do for this my? >> i think you need to stimulate it and it can't exist on the federal reserve. we need regulation, no question about that. we're way overregulated. a lot of regulatory agencies like the epa have just gone off the reservation. if you have too much regulation,
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you don't get investments. ceo's are afraid to invest. we talk about the question of why we don't have productivity. the answer is you don't have investment in machinery in factories, as a result, you do not have productivproductivety. what they take advantage of are now put back into buy back stock. therefore, we have that problem. >> let me ask you this, you said that wall street needs regulation, and you don't want to dismantle it, a potential treasury secretary for the house of financial services committee, he outlined priorities for congress under president trump.
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>> fundamental tax reform. small businesses will thrive, consumers will have choices, nothing can say economic growth like fundamental tax reform and repealing and replacing dodd frank. he says repeal and replace? >> who was that? >> that was congressman hensarling. >> i don't agree with that last part. you have to get rid of regulatory craziness, but i do not think that repealing dodd frank is an answer. i will tell you that in '08 it happened -- a lot of the problem was a result of not having banks
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regulated and selling products -- i'm not going to get into the nitty gritty of it. we agree you to get rid of a lot of regulation and you have to stimulate investment. one way is to lower taxes, another way is having a depreciation rate, and having you be able to sell goods and manufacturing capital spending and they will invest say in a factory or automobile. you can sell to the third party and they can depreciate it. >>. trump says he wants to lower taxes across the board and he is betting on 4% economic growth year on year.
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the growth that warren buffett told me this week is not realistic. and tax noouch really says it will add $20 trillion to the debt in 20 years. what do you say? >> i'm not a tax expert. i am a market expert, and i think what donald trump is saying will stimulate in the long run, markets, because it will stimulate the economy. i will not argue with pundits that say it might not have the exact gdp growth that trump is saying, but if we kept going along for the eight years that we have. we have not time lated our economy because we have not stimulated spending. hillary clinton said you must unleash the great power,
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economic power of our companies that are not spending money. i'm hooking at the broad picture. i'm looking at -- >> so as you look, you're the man that donald trump cited more than ever, in the campaign, you said you're not the right right guy for treasury secretary, but now it is president elect trump. what do you say if he calls you. >> i said all along i'm not going to washington. my personality is such -- i never worked for anyone in my life and i will not stop now. but i think there are better people that can go into washington, work with the establishment there, and be the secretary of treasury and i'm certainly not that person.
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>> donald said that janet yellin should be ashamed of herself. they said they were under pressure to keep the rates low. do you agree with trump on that? who would you like to see follow janet yellen when her term ends? >> okay, a couple questions here. one, i'm not going to criticize janet yellin, but aagree generally. you can't keep 0% interest rates because it builds asset bubbles. you splus fiscal stimulus. most important stimlace them to invest. a lot of people after world war ii thought the economy would go
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into a depression and it did not. today it is perceived, and rightly in many respects, that the government is at war with business. when you have that business says okay, the hell with it. therefore, this is what must happen. and i don't blame janet yellen. >> you don't think the fed is being political like he said. >> i'm not criticizing, but i do agree with donald. >> we'll have more next hour, stay with us for that, coming up ahead, candidate donald trump said all along his path to victory was through the rust belt states. what do the voters in these states that supported him now want to see from president trump? we will hear directly from them,
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we will hear directly from them, martin savage reports, next.
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voters in the rust belt paved trump's path to the white house. taking michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, three states that not voted for a republican since the 1980s. he also flipped ohio who voted for president obama in 2012, so what do voters want trump to focus on? >> the illegal moochers that come in from mexico. >> donald trump might want to give a listen to the callers in youngstown. >> we need to get people back to work. >> jobs, jobs, jobs. >> it used to be democrat turf, as businesses disappeared, many here, like their factories,
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turned rusty red and crossed over to trump. caller after caller added on to what they want their president so do. >> social security. we have not gotten a raise in seven years. >> send mexico a bill for the wall. >> get rid of obama care, bring back jobs, and if possible -- >> go after and indict hillary clinton. >> i talked across the bar with more celebrating trump backers. >> i expected this. i was very confident in the election. >> he has been a democrat all his life until now. >> what would you like to see trump do first? >> pick a great cabinet, he has a big job there.
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>> dave ogle says the same thing, he needs to surround himself with the right people. >> i think he will let the cabinet do the work, that's what i think, and i want to see who they pick for the supreme court. >> it is not long before we're back to "the wall." >> one of the first priorities i would say is secure our borders. i want this to be a country again. >> build a wall? >> yes, but that is to me that is rhetorical. it doesn't mean brick and mortar, okay? >> you hear that a lot the wall that he spoke so much about, to many voters, is not really a wall at all. the wall, build it, don't build it? a real wall, not a wall. >> i don't know if a physical wall is the thing to do. i think there are other ways he
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can curve some of it. >> obama care. >> i would get rid of it and start over, you have to take care of people that can't take care of themselves. >> and talking about all of those protestors. >> most i talk to don't believe the demonstrations are -- >> this is the government they want, chaos and anarchy. this is just the beginning in is just the beginning. >> many voters find the protestors disrespectful of the office of president and very disrespectful of the outcome of the election after all, in 2008 when barack obama was elected president, did republicans take to the streets? >> important to hear the voice of the voter, marty savage,
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two boys joined at the head. for their parents, a gut wrenching decision to decide whether or not to separate them. >> you make the craziest faces. >> what matters in the end is that they love each other. >> when we had the boys, of course, they were normal little boys. just like any two little beats other than being conjoined. >> they're so perfect, they're normal little boys. they're beautiful, they're perfect. they are so funny, and they're happy, you know? they're crazy. crazy. jayden tries to roll off of the business and drag his brother with him. and they talk. i love to hear them talking down
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the hall way with each other. and they're just beautiful. >> our chief medical kor ston dent was with the boys parents every step of the way in their 27 hour surgery. it's now been one month since that happened. sanjay joins us now with a update. this was a 27 hour surgery. that alone was heroing enough, that recovery is a long road, but good news, right? how are they doing? >> there is good news. it is a rare operation. a challenging operation for anybody. 27 hours on 13 month old babies. they're doing well, they're off of the breathing machine. there was concerns about weakness on one side of the body. there was concerns about seizures which have been very well controlled.
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they're sleeping in separate beds, and that's what it was all about. christian who you just saw briefly there, when they wheeled jaden up from the operating room, he said that's my boy. he never said that's my boy before, that was my boys. and it was powerful, but they're doing well. the hope is they will be able to get out of the hospital and get into a rehab facility. dr. goodrich, this is how he put it. >> from the point of view of recovery, they have been both right on target if not ahead of schedule. >> he is one of the world's leading experts, and it is such a rare thing. it is half a dozen operations, and he is very pleased with the progress. >> and this surgery is so rare, it is has only been done 59
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times since 1952, the surgeons found a greater challenge, right? they modelled all of this and when they started with the surgery they realized their brains were more fused than they thought. overall, how did the operation go? >> how it went at the time versus now, we know things are progressing very well. this is the model, the remarkabletolo remarkable technology. this is their heads fused together, the block vessels, the concern for celebration. from the time it was created to the time of the operation, the boys are still growing. the heads and brains were still fusing. and there was a point dr. go goodrich thought we may not be able to accomplish this. dr. tepper, a cranial facial
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surgeon, we spoke to him specifically about that, take a listen. >> i feel relieved at this point. i think there was a lot of concern, obviously going in, we knew this would be a big under taking and i think things went as well as we could have hoped at this point. >> so, you know, again the part that he spriting the -- separating the blood vessels, and how to successfully separate them while leaving their brains relatively untouched. >> i just couldn't help but think these are miracle workers and there are still a lot of -- there's a long road ahead for these boys, because i remember you telling me right after the surgery, one of them is facing more complications than the other, right? so what's next. >> there's always what is called a dominant twin and a
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nondominant twin. and a nondominant twin typically has the greatest challenges. that's anias. but because of the good news so far is to get him out of the intensive care unit and then go to a rehabilitation facility. these boys at 13 months old, they never crawled, they never walked, they never sat up. they never did the things you watched your baby do. this is a rebirth for them. they have a second birthday, so rehab is going to be learning what they should have the first year and a half of life. and the signals are very favorable. but the whole team as you mentioned, this was a gigantic team of nurses, physicians, the people that create the models, the radiologists, this is about
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50 people in the room at the same time doing something that other people have never done. >> this is so good to see and i'm so, so glad that things are going so well for these boys, we'll be right back. instincttrue with real salmon and tuna has 30% protein. support your active dog's whole body health with purina one. wheyou wantve somto protect it.e, at legalzoom, our network of attorneys can help you every step of the way. with an estate plan including wills or a living trust that grows along with you and your family. legalzoom. legal help is here. ♪
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take a look. >> for about 90 minutes, they were only supposed to meet for 15 minutes, but trump had a lot of the questions for obama, like how the hell do i get out of this? trump wasn't alone, first lady milaelania was there with miche obama to ensure the peaceful transition of speeches. >> of course a lot of people are unhappy with the election. there were a lot of protests in several cities last night. including here in new york. trump looked out his window from 60 stories up and said, a parade already? that's fantastic, that's unbelievable. >> ahead in our next hour a fourth straight day of protests. a nation clearly divided, we'll have a live report, we're live in the cnn newsroom. earching fod car? yeah! you got it.
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hi, everyone. you are live in the cnn newsroom. it is 8:00 p.m. in new york. 5:00 p.m. in los angeles and cities from coast to coast dealing with a fourth straight night of anti-trump protests. for hours, protesters have been

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