>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. breaking news, president-elect meeting tomorrow with south carolina governor nikki haley. this is "cnn tonight," i'm don lemon. a transition source telling cnn, governor haily is under consideration for a number of

key cabinet positions. let's begin this hour, with cnn political reporter sara murray who can update us on all of this. let's start out with the breaking news on the transition. what you can tell us? >> let's talk about nikki haley. she's going to be visiting donald trump at trump tower and sources are saying she's the kind of person they believe could be a good fit, as a potential secretary of state and donald trump's administration, now obviously the person that we've really been talking about is the leader of a potential secretary of state, has been rudy giuliani, but the fact you're seeing donald trump meet with nikki haley, he has a full slate of meetings, but i feel like nikki haley is the headline here, because she was really critical of him during the campaign, publicly critical, ultimate critical. she said she was going to vote for donald trump, but if were to be seriously considering nikki haley for secretary of state, as sources say, if he were to pick her, that would be eye seer our indicati

indication he's trying to find people will flush out his administration, bring some more experience and he's willing to forgive past grievances and look at people based on what he thinks their credentials are for the job. now beyond that one of the other big things they announce side they're going to look to anyone who serves in the donald trump administration to then have a five year ban on lobbying. of course we've seen a revolving door of people who go into the white house. they immediately go into lobbying. they want this five-year ban, unclear, on how they want to enforce about but that's what they're bringing out tonight. >> i want to bring in vicki washed, contributor to of course wi -- esquire magazine. you've written a big piece on jared curb hkushner. what is he really like? >> he's a very, very shred

tactician. when i wrote my piece in the summer,ef c summer, kevin ryan said he's in it to win it and it has proven so. what's very interesting, don, is a lot of people in the new york real estate industry, and sort of new york social circles i think sort of withdrew a bit from jared during the campaign, but now he's right there with the president-elect, they're sort of saying thank goodness because jarrett is so smart. >> yeah. >> and i think that that's very interesting. >> why do they withdraw, because they weren't so sure? >> we've seen in this election, new york was in one camp and jared kushner -- and i felt this when i was reporting this piece in the summer really sort of was strategizing and understood where middle america was. and it turned out his math and his understanding of social media, you know, his kal

klati kal calk stations were right and i'm sure donald trump feels that, which is why he wants him so close with him. >> he's been at the center of the transition team, and according to reports maybe he's part of the so-called turmoil that's happening there, and that's been disputed saying there's no turmoil. but we know his father, he also is said to have gotten rid of chris christie and his father charles kushner was sent to prison. here's what you write. prison in alabama, in 2005, jarrett was working on a joint business and law degree at nyu sentence a convicted felon cannot sign a contract as a fiduciary, he felt that he had no choice other than to take over the family business. in his interview with new york, meaning new york magazine that you were talking about, he okay knows his father made a mistake, insisting charles had been unfairly punished for his crimes. he's made no secret of the fact

he sees his father as an extraordinary man and he believes in his duty that he -- to put the kushner name back at the top. he's driven to restore the family name. do you think that's part of his -- what is guiding him now? >> i do. but i also think that jarrett kushn kushner -- you know, he's a very ambitious, smart tactician who's career in some ways almost eclipses that of your father. if you think that 12 years ago he was as i wrote in his early 20s, his father had been going to jail and he doubled down. he bought the most expensive building in new york. he crossed the river. what donald trump had done many years before him, it starts to rehabilitate the name, buys a

newspaper, so it's really sort of a marker and he's an orthodox jew and he marries a very prominent -- the very prominent ivanka trump who converts to marry him. she's are all actions of someone -- people talk about jared as being low key, but if you look at the trajectory of his career, now there he is right by the president-elect, it's really an -- all of it adds up to an extraordinary statement. >> i van caprobabi are you surpg met and knowing him? >> no, not at all. i saw sort of when i was reporting this piece in the summer, just how determined he was. and it's real for him. he really believes in donald trump. i think they do have this kin ship. they do -- because they've both

grown up around the real estate industry. they both understand how to pivot. they both feel the same way about the media. one of the things i reported was that jarrett was not well liked by his new room and he didn't care particularly. >> and he's a member of the media. >> he -- he's an owner and i think he sees that very clearly. he was in it -- he owned new york observer because he was sort of interested to see if he could modernize it, and interestingly in the last few days, the observer has just gone purely online. >> and i was telling you before it was interesting because he talks donald trump rallies against the "new york times" but maybe a month ago i got a copy of the observer, which is a paper he owned inside of my "new york times" description at my front door and i said this is interesting this is happening. i've got to get rebecca in. she's a memb she's a member of the trump family. are there rules about jared getting a job at the house? >> there are nepotism laws, including in-laws from taking salaried positions but that

wouldn't pro cluclude jarrett kushner and sort of acting as an informal kitchen cabinet advisor as he's been doing throughout the campaign process, so that's why we're hearing these reports of jared kushner perhaps getting a security clearance. he's very much still in the mix, very much a trusted advisor to donald trump in his team and i would be surprised if we do not see him taking an informal role in the white house because he's been so instrumental throughout this campaign not only to shaping the direction of the campaign and the strategy, but really keeping this team together, we talked so much throughout this campaign about all of the tumultuous turn in the campaign, all of the different leaders from corey lewandowski, to paul manafort, to steve bannon. jared kushner has been a thread throughout, one of the things holding the campaign together

and i think we can expect that to continue as this campaign moves from campaign mode into the white house. >> can we see him as part of the daily briefing as you said if he takes on a voluntary role? >> we're seeing that in the transition now potentially, but when it gets to the white house t gets to be a little bit murkier, because if you're in an informal, unsalaried position, this raises questions of conflicts of interest and there's this dynamic where the adult children, ivanka, donaand eric. >> it's not really a blind trust. >> it's not really, no that's something we've been talking about, like is this actually going to prevent conflicts of interest, while it's the set up they have planned so far. but jared kushner married to ivanka trump that really starts to tear down this wall of separation even further, raises more questions of conflicts of interest. >> did you want to get in on

this? >> no, but i think what's -- yes because i think that -- you know, to me -- i've always reported on donald trump for many years and knowing him. this is just how he operates and it -- as we know, he's happy to break with precedent. he wants to break with precedent. he likes to be surrounded by a very small group of people who he trusts. jarrett kushner, you know, is absolutely that person. >> the trump campaign is sort of -- it's been seen as a fly by the seat of your pants, at least from the outside in. now the transition seems to be in turmoil as they said, with kushner at some of this invit g infighti infighting. they deny it. >> just based on my reporting, of jarreed kushner, i felt ther was this ora of calm around him

and careful calculation, which seemed i think very few people in new york understood that and i think it didn't bother him nobody in new york understood it. so just because it -- how it looks to us, may not necessarily be what is. you know, i think that jarrett kushner has proven that he is not to be under estimated. >> it's certainly interesting that you say here in new york. go ahead, rebecca. >> i was just going to say, we should also mention jared kushner is not any sort of ideology. he was a democrat, a democratic contributor, his father was a major donor. jared kushner and ivanka raised money for the governor of new jersey. he's in this to win as an operator, not out of any sort of political ideology. he's not in this because these are necessarily his beliefs. this is all about family, all about loyalty, and that ads another layer that some of the trump's other advisors don't have. might be a reason why that

loyalty runs so much deeper with kushner. >> it sounds a lot like donald trump. >> and she did give to rudy giuliani, so that's welcome to real estate. it's very common in that industry. you know, they butter both sides of the bread. >> thank you, vicky. >> thank you, rebecca. just ahead will donald trump get into a heated battle with mayors around the country known as sanctuary cities? the mayor of los angeles joins me next. isn't it time to let the real you shine through? introducing otezla (apremilast). otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable after just 4 months, with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't take otezla if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. otezla may increase the risk of depression.

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los angeles is a sanctuary city, shielding many immigrant from enforcers. we'll talk with los angeles mayor eric farseti. thank you for joining us. what is a sanctuary city exactly? >> i don't use the term sanctuary city, since it has no definition and has been used primarily by anti-immigrant folks. los angeles has always been welcome to refugees, asylum seekers and immigrants. 63% of our population are immigrants or children of immigrants and we've seen that be a core part of our kple aeco and a core part of our streets, and a place immigrants can come to and they can feel safe no matter the changes that go into one administration or the next in the white house we're going to continue to be a great american city that's filled

withism grants and veimmigrants proud of that. >> it's fair to say los angeles is not enforcing immigration law? >> we do all the time when there's criminal and a court warrant that requires us to make sure we hand folks over to immigration officials. the policy we have from los angeles is from 1970, darrell gates, a republican, conservative, in 1970 recognized that's not the job of local police officers, whose job is to establish trust with all ra residents, to make sure they can be witnesses to crimes and talk to the police, that's the federal responsibility of the government and charlie beck said we will continue to have that policy and we will concentrate on street crime and keeping los angeles safe. we don't believe it's the role of local law enforcement to be asking people sole what their immigration status is. that's a federal responsibility. >> let me tell you specifically what charlie beck said about enforcement, we're not going to work in conjunction with

homeland security on deportation efforts that. is not our job, nor will i make it our job. are you notion with that, mayor? >> absolutely that. is my policy, as well as his and it's been the policy for more than 40 years here in los angeles. part of the reason we've been able to bring crime down to historic lows we have great relationships with our diverse populations and that's a core part of keeping america safe that. trust is even more valuable from what we see coming from the other side and i would like to see assurances from the administration we're not going to see children ripped away from parents in the middle of the night. we've seen that in other countries, we've fought wars against that sort of action, we've seen dark chapters of our own history where american citizens were deported in operation wetback from the american southwest, and full american citizens that were taken across the border and families separated. we can't afford that here in los angeles and pleamerica and we h

that administration will not engage in those sorts of efforts. >> over the course of the campaign we've heard about the things that happen during -- that have happened recently. donald trump is blaming sanctuary policy for many of the deaths of katesteinle. how do you answer critics to point to this and they say sanctuary is a bad idea? >> you look at the overwhelming number of people who are here undocumented. a million in los angeles county. and if you look at those numbers and native born who commit crime, that's something that happens with human beings and we should make sure someone is an undocumented immigrant or a native-born american if they're committing crimes and they need to be held accountable we need to make sure the legal system works. but the idea of massive sweeps and deportations, we're experiencing an economic boom here in los angeles. a big part of that has been that under president obama, many of

these undocumented migrants have moved into legal status and seen their wages go up by 40% and lifted the wages by all of us to put them back into the shadows, will depress the wages of our citizens, as well as those individuals and could risk the strength of our main street economies throughout the united states. 60% of our local businesses are started by immigrants, some of them that don't have documentation and there's reason why 65% of americans want a pathway towards citizenship for undocumented migrants. that seems to be the right solution going forward. >> the president-elect is threatening to hold federal funds of cities shielding on immigrants, that's potentially understands of millions of dollars from your bottom line. could los angeles afford to lose that money? >> those are our tax dollars. we're patriots. we make sure those come back and nobody's even defined in old legislation what a quote/unquote sanctuary city is.

l.a.p.d. officers in new york and chicago, in any small town shouldn't be immigration officials. that's the responsibility of the federal government. just because we're not pulling people over for the way they look and asking for papers doesn't mean we're not participating with federal immigration authorities. we do that in a lawful way. when a court gives us a warrant, we're not going to spread fear, we're not going to divide families. it's un-american and we won't stand for it here, or in america. >> mayor, are you seeing any more fear in immigrant communities in your cities since this election? >> absolutely. i've talked with young children who are enconsoleable, not knowing whether their parents are going to be there when they wake up. people are having nightmares and are worried whether or not the schools their children will be grabbed, whether parents will be taken away, whether our local factories, wondering whether our local factories, because there's too many latinos or asians will be raided. this is bad for the economy, bad for the social fabric of our

streets and we all want a bipartisan way to citizenship. and what we don't want to see and is frankly un-american is to see these raidings rippis rippis apart, accusations based on how you look or where you worship god. we have to work in our cities to be the examples of love, of unity, what america stands for and i'm proud of my cities and my fellow mayors who are standing up for american values and challengiing administration to assure us we don't see that on our streets. >> thank you. >> thank you. up next, mayor bill de blasio said new yorkers will stand up against trump, but at what cost to the city. nationality and i would always answer hispanic. so when i got my ancestry dna results it was a shocker. i'm everything. i'm from all nations. i would look at forms now and wonder what do i mark? because i'm everything.

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new york mayor bill de blasio met with the president-elect and i want you to listen what he had to say afterwards. >> new yorkers will stand together. we're going to stand up for the needs of working people. we're going to stand up for our immigrant brothers and sisters. we're going to stand up for anyone whoe has a has any polic excluded or affronted, members of the muslim community or jewish community, members of the lgbt community, women, anyone who feels policies are being undertaken that undermine them. >> i watched that entire press conference. is the mayor setting up a conflict between his city and the trump administration? >> no, i think he's setting up the incoming president of the united states to make good decisions, that impact every day americans, these people have children. these folks have been

contributors to our city, and maybe they do not always do everything right, but there's something to be said for the meaning of a sanctuary city in this day in age. i think the problem is the rhetoric that donald trump used on the campaign trail, they still have people chanting "build that wall." they chanted it rat the rnc and you had kids doing this in a lunchroom just last week and the reality is these are far more complex issues than what you can get out in a four or five-word chant. we have to really understand what it means to breakup and tear apart families. >> both of the mayors who were on, and mayor bill de blasio, they have hundreds of thousands of residents who could be targeted by the immigration policy. you can blame them for trying to protect their people, tara? >> no, i mean because naturally, if their mayors of these cities

and they feel as though they want the united states to be welcoming and i understand that. >> i feel a but coming on. >> yes, there's but here. i worked in illegal immigration on capitol hill for seven year for a southern california congressman and i really got to see the devastating effects now. we need to talk about illegal immigration. and the devastating effects it's had, particularly in california, you know you had the los angeles mayor, and reminds me of jamiel shaw, a case when i worked in you can think of a 17-year-old young black boy that was getting ready to go to college, promising football career, was murdered in front of his house shot in the head by an illegal a gang member who had just been let out of jail because of something called law 40, which doesn't allow officers to and about legal immigration status and it ties the hands of law and order in these cities. i think that we failed a lot of

these illegal immigrants who find safe haven in these cities because we've allowed this to go on for so long and then we don't enforce the law and we create this problem. i don't think we should have a deportation force. >> people are undocumented immigrants. >> the government term is ail yen. >> i worked at i.n.s., back when it was i.n.s. during the clinton administration. this has been an issue that has been existing since the 1980s let's look at the history and the reality of it. it's not a legal term. i think mayor garsetti was right on point when he said he doesn't call us a sanctuary city. it started in the 1980 when is immigrants were coming from central america, seeking a siel lumfrom the wars that were -- that were going on there. and they would go into religious institutions into churches, in order to be protected from being

deported. then that turned into cities, and immigrants whose only fault was coming here without papers but they were all seeking asy m asylum. what is happening now is these cities are telling their law enforcement and by the way the majority agree with this, that they don't have to do -- should not have to do the job of federal immigration services because if they do, then what happens is in a lot of these communitie communities, a lot of these communities will stop cooperating with the police. if you're in a domestic abuse and you're an undocumented immigrant or here legally, but if you live in a mixed status family and you get into a case where your husband or wife or whoever is attacking you, you're not going to report it to the police that. is a big deal. >> that is a crutch. i've talked to plenty of law enforcement officers, particularly ice agents who are

handcuffed and can't do their job s because i have places lik los angeles and others who openly will not cooperate with federal law enforcement officers in order to enforce the law. the obama administration got rid of the 287 g program which basically helped to train -- >> because it wasn't working. >> that's not true it. local la enforcement officers to find out if someone is detained if they're illegal or not. they got rid of that because the obama administration did not want people deported. >> it was a strain on local law enforcement. local law enforcement said i don't want to do this because i will not be able to do community policing. john, even your own mayor, what's wrong with protecting people who aren't criminals and just trying to live their lives. >> it's a disgrace, and if they're not going to enforce the law, they should be rested or

resigned. you don't have politicians pick and choose which laws they're going toen force. this was the core issue of the trump campaign was build the wall. this isn't about families. they're not even supposed to be here. they don't pay taxes. they clog the schools. >> they do pay taxes, sir. >> let him finish. >> it is absolutely and as far as de blasio, look at the conditions in new york city. they're going to have to epiforce the law. you don't pick which laws you're going to enforce. you go back to the civil war, and states that wanted slavery. you had state it's. >> you have lived in new york? >> yes, i have for nine years and it is a wreck with people moving out and the number of homeless. >> wow. >> they took an oath to enforce the law. they should be arrested or they should resign. you can't start to choose. this is fake outrage, don of the because they want votes. >> john hold on. i do have to say new york city is thriving right now, but any

way, go ahead. >> it is not -- [ overlapping dialogue ] >> it is not outrage when you have families and children that are afraid of their lives. >> what about american families? >> because of some collusion between their own community police officer, is going to essentially turn them in when they've done nothing wrong except for be here without documents that. is not a criminal felony. here's the problem with that. most people are not going to go around looking for -- you know, who are the families and the kids and yank them out of school. that's an extremist position and i agree with donald trump on some of -- >> welcome to the trump administration. >> i agree on some policies but not all. deportation is a bit much. as far as border security we should know who is coming in and out of this country there is nothing wrong with they. as far as interior enforcements, there are 40% under barack obama

for interior enforcement. >> you can't pick and choose which laws they're going to enforce. >> you have people coming across this border by -- in the droves in the thousands, since 2014 from unaccompanied minors. people coming from honduras, and el salvador. >> let angela respond. go ahead. >> so first of all, to say that law enforcement officers in towns and cities across the country are picking and choosing which laws they're going to enforce is preposterous. maria made a very good and strong and clear and honest -- >> i'm -- she's not a politician. she actually is a political commentator on this air just like me. >> let her finish. >> i can't hear you while you're pointing. >> i said the mayor of new york and the mayor of los angeles and

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all right. back with my panel. angela, i think you were making a point on the trust between communities and police? >> i was making a point about the difference between federal, state, and local law and i think that what i found often throughout this election cycle and now on the other side of it, is people don't understand how that works. there is a difference in obligation between what a state and local law enforcement officer is supposed to do versus what the feds do, and i think that that is the point that maria was trying to make earlier on, and it must have been missed -- >> enforce the law. >> i give up. maria, your turn. >> do you want some more cheese with that whine? >> let her finish. >> i've finished, it's just -- >> this is more of the same. this is about make america great again, not south america great again. >> wow.

>> that's awful. >> and you're going to start to bring back the country. >> i'm not going to pick and choose which laws they want to enforce. >> as a conservative republican, who has worked on the immigration issue for many years and i'm pretty tough on that issue, i don't think it's helpful if we're going to try to move forward because it's very complicated and it's multilayered from the law enforcement aspect. >> it is not complicated. >> it is actually. >> you're wrong. >> it's not, okay. i worked and it's not. i come from a law enforcement family. it's multilayered. >> it is. >> it's not a solution. how about we come with a solution like we can enforce the laws and the mayor can come up with solutions instead of talking about maybe programs or interior enforcement. [ over llapping dialogue ] >> that's the kind of message that trump campaign is per viaing and it does not move us forward. >> that's why he won the

election. >> john's trying to pretend that immigration and this issue of quote/unquote sanctuary cities is simple. i think completely -- >> it is simple. >> -- be tratrays issue this pe. >> let her respond. >> this is an issue that is so incredibly complicated, multilayered. there's reason why we have not been able to get to -- >> i can hear the violins from here. >> -- continue to hear violation reform, when you have bipartisan people who have been working on this for years and there are certain pieces that need to be contained in a bill, but what happened is then it gets thrown into the political arena and people like john cheapen the debate. >> give us a policy solution rather than a slogan. >> do you know what, don, it's simple. if the mayors feel that way they need to fight it out and put forth the legislation that's going to change the law.

>> that's not their roll. >> you can't have politicians announcing what laws they are and are not going to enforce. it's fake outrage. that was a great move also by the way, steve bannon going to the white house. he's the man. >> all of these people here and who have worked on it saying that's how the law works. >> right. >> and yeah you're saying it's not, but that's -- legally, that's how it works. >> don, can i just give you one example? >> yeah, go ahead. >> i just want to finish -- >> but what they need -- >> john, don just gave me the floor, don. [ overlapping dialogue ] >> legislation that's going to come out before you -- i will but before they start to, announce they're how not going to follow it. >> here's the thing. it's just one example when you don't fundamentally understand how government works. you just suggested that mayors should put forth legislation, and i stand -- i sit before you today today. >> support legislation. >> it's called comprehensive

immigration reform. if that is something we can get to -- >> i want to roll the tame back. >> and garsetti -- >> they have no criminal record behind them. >> then garsetti and de blasio can work through their administration. i don't want to be a broken record. >> that's fair enough. >> and for those mayors and those cities that say that they're not going to cooperate or they're not going to hand over the -- >> should be arrested. >> -- criminal aliens, which iss not deported, there's detainer with local law enforcement counties and i.c.e. and who gets deported, it needs to be overhauled and needs to change. for those kind of sanctuary cities there's way to make them comply and that's with federal funding and if they don't comply that's up to congress.

>> but there's also -- >> angela you would agree you can't have politicians deciding who stays and who leaves. >> that wasn't me. >> there's also a way to get these cities and a lot of the mayors of these cities actually do comply with a lot of these detainers and actually do work with i.c.e. after the person served their sentence or after the court has said what needs to be done with this person they do turn them over to i.c.e. because they have an agreement they do that only when there is a detainer or a court order. that's very different from asking community officers, community policing officers to go around asking people for their immigration papers. >> that's right. >> and that is what a lot of republicans want. >> no one is asking for papers. that is talking points. >> stand by, we'll be back. y dar with a healthy smile. start yours with philips sonicare, the no.1 choice of dentists. compared to oral-b 7000, philips sonicare flexcare platinum removes significantly more plaque. this is the sound of sonic technology cleaning deep between teeth.

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silicon valley from south asia. country is more than an economy but a civic society. >> by the way that number doesn't check out. he seriously exaggerated the number of asian executives. what do you think when you hear that exchange in. >> exactly what the criticism has been of bannon all along. he delves in this language that communicates to communities of color as bigoted and racist. that's why you have so many people on the streets and afraid of their future and future of communities when you have somebody looik steve bannon normalized this hatred and racism and sexism. means misogyny has a seat at table of the white house and

racism has the ear of the president. you've seen donald trump already taking that kind of advice from the first day he announced campaign calling mexicans rapists and criminals. >> you disagree? >> steve bannon is brilliant. he and kellyanne conway won the election because plugged in with the american people. and who can justify open borders or breaking up families. entire family should return to the country of origin. it's not asking too much that american citizens start to rebuild this nation. >> wow. >> but these attacks on steve bannon are totally unfair. president-elect trump has the right to select the type of people to be around him. and as far as -- all of this outrage about him, what about the late '90s with president clinton, didn't hear it was okay to greenlight that kind of activity in the oval office, suddenly going after --

>> don't come at me. i've been one of the people who came out and said for all the fellow conservatives that went after bill clinton justifiably for doing what he did, and turn around and make excuses for donald trump's behavior, comments about grak women by the genitals are hypocrites. don't criticize me on that. i was active. >> we're interchangeable. >> i have a question for. >> hold on. i want to ask tara as conservative republican and topic was steve bannon. how do you feel about that? >> i think that putting steve bannon in that position -- you can be smart, a genius and an evil genius. i don't think that having someone with the background that he has and comments that he's made bragging about brietbart being the platform for the

alt-right and bragging with leninism and affinity for that and bringing down the system and allowing some of the ilk that's been on that website under his leadership doesn't send message of unity that donald trump has to put forth in country so divided. inflammatory language and as conservatives we wouldn't stand for it. went after dunn sh -- and his leftist views and van jones who i have come to know well but he was excoriated as green job tsar for leftist views. >> why aren't conservatives doing that with bannon then? >> the moral come pass of hitsz party maz gone hay wire and rationalized things we would

never accept on the other side. i can't explain why. >> can you imagine if president obama had brought in reverend jeremiah wright as president? that's the exact analogy. >> go ahead angela. >> talked about needing to rebuild this country. it's important to note how this country was started to begin with, who do you think built it to begin with john? >> right now my family came from italy and they didn't go and cost 19,000 per pupil in the schools. >> just wanted to know who you thought built the country. >> fact of the matter is you can't just say who built the country. right now illegal immigration is a huge cost. >> asking who built the country because forced immigrants. >> i think point is immigrants -- spipd all the fem

who came over were illegal. >> my family were barbers. didn't get free and welfare they learned how to speak english. >> your president-elect has paid zero in federal taxes for at least past twenty years. undocumented immigrants pay thousands more than your president-elect. >> they don't pay taxes. >> yes they do. >> to say they don't underscores how little you know about this issue. >> i do know a lot. >> you don't. >> fact of the matter is people need -- they don't file state tax returns. >> some do but -- >> you just said a minute ago hiding in the shadows. how could they be? >> john -- >> hiding in shadows and marching in the streets of los angeles. >> i think you're outnumbered on

this particular -- >> doesn't mean i'm wrong though don. >> you're absolutely wrong. >> completely wrong. >> probably should study up a little on it. >> read a book. >> but i thank you. >> read a book? >> yeah. several. >> thanks for watching. i'll see you right back here tomorrow. >> brietbart rules. >> it's always something. good night. when standard cancer treatment no longer works

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>> thank you for joining us tonight. donald trump denying his transition is in turmoil. his spokesman calling very calm, very structured. not the chaotic knife fight we've been hearing about. and not a vendetta. by trump's son-in-law. we'll also hear about new names mentioned for cabinet positions. and the jared kushner back story, how chris christie sent his dad to prison. and megyn kelly on what set the tone for the entire campaign -- debate question that did. we begin outside trump tower with the latest. what do you know jim in is >> reporter: after days of reports of infighting and score settling inside the trump transition team you saw an image reset from donald trump and his top advisors earlier today. you know the president elect put out the tweets saying this is nothing to the reports of problems. everything is going smoothly and you also saw high profile