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names. including one kept particulskep. we are covering this from every angle. let's go to >> good morning, john. trying to reclaim the narrative one that has been played by reports of infighting and making this big move today. a ban on lobbying and all people trump administration and harkens back to donald trump as a candidate's core promise that he will shake up washington. president-elect donald trump's transition team now moving to uphold this campaign promise. >> we are going to drain the swamp. >> reporter: unveiling a new lobbying ban, requiring anyone under consideration for a job in the trump administration to sign a written pledge to terminate their lobbying. and when they leave office, they will be banned from being a lobbyist for five years.
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>> we talk about draining the swamp. this is one of the first steps. >> reporter: as they make headway on some aspects of the transition, other parts are still slow moving. trump's team has not yet contacted the pentagon, state department or other federal agencies to inform them about the transition with major washington agencies saying they're still left in the dark. but trump's team says they're moving forward on this today. ready to announce their so-called landing team of the team that will deploy and interact with the department of justice and state, defense and national security and other agencies to follow. >> we made tremendous progress in giving the president-elect some ideas on how to move forward with his core team and members of cabinet. >> reporter: a flurry of meetings lined up for president-elect, including nikki haley a former trump detractor. >> that's not who we want as president. >> reporter: now under consideration for secretary of
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state. meantime, new reports suggest that jared kushner, ivanka trump's husband, could wind up with top national security clearance and become a key adviser to trump. trump's team rejecting concerns over nepotism and a potential conflict of interest. >> jared's, obviously, been a very important part of this campaign and he's someone that the president-elect trusts very much. what that role is, like anyone else, up to the president-elect. >> reporter: the transition team continuing to dispute reports of internal disarray and infighting. >> it's false to say it's not going well. >> reporter: this as the head of the transition, vice president elect mike pence, sat down with joe biden wednesday. biden promising his successor that he'll be available 24/7 for advice. >> no administration is ready on day one. we weren't ready on day one. but i'm confident on day one everything will be in good hands. >> reporter: and later today president-elect donald trump will be meeting with japanese
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prime minister abe here at trump tower. this is notable because this is his first face-to-face, in-person meeting with a foreign leader since meeting the president. >> thanks, sunlen for all of that. we have cnn political reporter errol louis and abbie philip and david gregory. abby, i'll start with you since we were just having this conversation. donald trump is going to ban lobbyists from serving in the white house. isn't that already a law? >> he is extending a policy that has been in place throughout the obama administration. >> president obama started that. >> yes. and he's continuing that. he doesn't have to do that. >> wait a minute, but lobbyists can, at the same time, be a lobbyist and serve in the white house? >> well, not right now. but he's continuing the policy of preventing him from doing that. he didn't have to do that to begin with and i think a lot of people in the federal government who would complain that, hey, like, you got to have lobbyists.
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they know what they're talking about. but the drain the swamp policy, this fits in. >> he is extending the term after they leave the white house which is they can't lobby and they can't make that money. david gregory, you know, i feel like going after lobbyists is an easy target. who is going to stand up for lobbyists? like rooting for the death star. >> but it's consistent with his message. then president-elect obama had a similar message, which is i think a reminder of the same effect that obama had that trump is having. a true outsider status and coming to washington and saying, look, things are going to be different here and the obama administration had some difficulties with that keeping to it and keeping lobbyists outside of the fray. and i think that the trump team will have a similar difficulty. but, this may speak to some of the discord with the christie transition in terms of who was brought into the fold initially and their lobbying credentials.
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but, again, nothing surprising about this given what trump has campaigned on and what his values were coming into washington and wanted to shake things up. >> but is that what drain the swamp means, errol. is that it or just all the corruption that not even lobbyists -- >> look, politically speaking, drain the swamp means do something to push back the influence of the lobbyists. so, you can do that a number of different ways. so, in this case, you have one particular configuration. now, does that mean lobbyists are going to be absent? if you have lobbyists running your transition committees, which is what donald trump has, they'll set the framework and hire all the people and maybe their work is done and they don't need to dirty their hands with serving in the administration. they picked all the people who are now beholden to them to have those jobs in the administration. >> different kinds of swamps, aren't there? there is a swamp that is filled with lobbyists and then a swamp you could conceive of a swamp filled with family members, couldn't you?
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now this continuing notion that jared kushner, the son-in-law to donald trump will end up in the administration. the "wall street journal" has a fascinating article saying kushner could end up with a senior adviser role within the white house which would be unprecedented which some people say is against the law and others say the president himself would not be beholden to these nepotism role. >> i think lobbyists are one thing and the easiest thing for average people and just sort of rank of file and americans to understand. but there are a lot of other ways. there is family members, wall street. i mean, we're talking about potentially senior officials who are coming straight from wall street into the trump administration and the kushner influence is very real and very significant right at this moment. he is the driving force of a lot of these changes we're seeing in the trump transition and i think nat is a key signal that he's not going away any time soon. they'll try to find some way for
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him to continue to be a part of this process. >> clearly, they'll have to deal with ethics laws and nepotism laws and, i suspect, they will deal with that if he doesn't take any money, for example. >> that's the loophole, right, da david. he's not even a blood relative. >> look, i actually don't think it's that unusual that an incoming president would want somebody that he really trusts. who has been a major adviser. clearly, kushner has been throughout the campaign and now in the early point of this administration. you know, valerie jared very close friend of the obama's had a senior adviser role and there was friction in the white house as a result of that because she could go into so many different areas. and, again, i think any president wants somebody that they're very comfortable with. if it's his son-in-law in this case, he's going to find a way to bring him in.
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>> there are reasons, though, that the nepotism laws are in place and reasons that there has been resistance over the last 0, 30 years or since the kennedys, frankly, in place because you don't want the idea that you're doing business or doing government work to enrich your family. the trumps have got to erect some barriers, if they're going to do this. they have to make clear that ivanka's bracelet business isn't going to be benefitted by having jared kushner as part of the security. >> some of this is new and unprecedented. what you just described of the bracelet and family members and almost impossibility of creating a true, blind trust for the assets of this particular president-elect. that's uncharted territory. that's a whole other category. anybody can google 531 u.s. 10 and look at the nepotism law and it very clearly says it applies to son-in-laws. he cannot be an employee of the president. >> what if he doesn't take the money? >> the money isn't the issue.
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it doesn't have anything to do with the salary. you can't appoint him to various commissions, according to the law. it's pretty crystal clear. on the other hand, you can have the -- the president has the right to get advice and counsel with almost anybody in the world. he can have his son-in-law or anybody else give him all kind of different advice. but very much like you said with valerie jarrett, somebody with that portfolio floating around who can sort of talk to the president and give him advice and counsel. if he wants more than that and running an agency and having dozens or hundreds of employees and making himself felt in that way throughout the government, that's off limits for family members. >> the argument here is that i think that we'll probably see this from the trump camp is that you are never going to stop the president from going home and consulting with his spouse about what's going on in the world and what's going on with his policies in the white house. and i think that we'll start to see this argument coming from trump camp that, you know, if
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jared kushner is advising his father-in-law, talking to him about the world. talking to him about broad strategy issues, there's no way that law could prevent that from being the case. >> winning lets you do a lot of things. winning the white house gives you wide latitude to get a lot of stuff done that you wanted. also gives you the latitude to meet with people who you may not have liked very much or who might not have liked you very much during the campaign. one name that pops out, nikki haley. the governor of south carolina. she is going to meet with donald trump and people have been floating that nikki haley could wind up with a serious job like secretary of state. donald trump was pretty harsh on her, too. >> i think this should be viewed as a positive sign. the politics is over, the campaign is over. now it's time to lead. i think that americans, no matter their political stripe should be pleased to see that donald trump is thinking about his political opponents, as well
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as his friends. he's thinking a little bit more about diversity instead of just white men around him and is looking into the pool of talented governors around the country who have actually have executive experience. this should be a reassuring sign. now, again, former governor, she will be vetted and scrutinized in terms of views of the world and how she might be as secretary of state. with a sitting governor as executive experience to run a major part of the government should be, i think, a reassuring sign to people. >> panel, thank you. stick around. hillary clinton delivering an emotional message to supporters in her first public appearance since conceding the election. >> america is worth it. our children are worth it. believe in our country, fight for our values and never, ever give up. >> what clinton said about her struggle to recover from last
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first public appearance. she acknowledged it was a painful loss but pushed people to keep fighting for the cause. >> i know many of you are deeply disappointed about the results of the election. i am, too. more than i could ever express. but as i said last week, our campaign was never about one person or even one election. it was about the country we love and about building an america that is hopeful, inclusive and big hearted. i ask you to stay engaged. stay engaged on every level. we need you. america needs you. your energy, your ambition, your talent. that's how we get through this. >> want to bring back our panel. this was a speech to the children's defense fund. a speech she had agreed to give before the election. it was also the first group that then president-elect bill clinton spoke to in 1992.
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the symbolism here. what was supposed to be the symbolism for hillary clinton was obvious. abby, you see hillary clinton there, losing sucks. i don't think there is any other way to say it. she's trying to prove she is fighting through it. >> this is where she began her career after law school. the meaning for her is pretty significant here. that added to the emotion. she was trying to send a signal of what she is likely to be engaged with after the dust had settled from this election. reverting back to some of the causes of her youth and some of the causes of her early career and also sending an important message to her supporters who she knows are devastated. some of them, like her, didn't want taget out of bo get out of last week and democrats are strapping in for an extended period of powerlessness in washington. and that's something that is going to take a lot of energy to sort of persevere through so
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that they can go into the next cycle with some momentum. >> and, errol, she talked about things we can all relate to after some set back. which is not wanting to get off the couch. let me play for you what she says she has been experiencing. >> i have to admit coming here tonight wasn't the easiest thing for me. there have been a few times this past week when all i wanted to do was just to curl up with a good book or our dogs and never leave the house, again. >> i think helpful and healing for her supporters and democrats who feel the exact same way. to hear that she's going through that. >> well, maybe. i have to say what was missing from the speech is any sense of sort of responsibility. either for her personally, understandable, we'll give her a pass on that. but the democratic leadership has got to figure out what becomes of the old obama coalition, which clearly was not enough to sustain or transform into a hillary clinton winning
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coalition. they've got to figure out what they are going to do. >> not too soon for that in this -- in her first public appearance she should have come out and been like, here's what we learned. >> i am just pointing out, it wasn't in the speech, but a really pressing issue. what she signaled by leaving this out is that she is not part of that discussion and going to be up to others and up to chuck schumer and elizabeth warren, the leadership of the democratic party. what they stand for, where do they go and how they are going to put it back together, again. that's why nancy pelosi has not been able to close the deal with her own conference. the fact that she didn't get an early and unanimous vote of support, has people starting to wo wonder. you lose four straight elections in congress, something's gone wrong. >> go ahead, david. >> i think errol is right. i have a slightly different view. i don't think the obama
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coalition, i think she underperformed which speaks more to her campaign and her appeal as her as a candidate and i think democrats will recognize that. i think to errol's point, the clintons, as harsh as it is to say are now part of the past of the democratic elite. they are not really going to chart the course to lead the way forward. that's going to go to others. younger people in the party, different kinds of visionaries because what speaks to the demographic change in the country, that speaks to the future demography in america. and the extent to which hillary clinton has a voice, i think she will have a voice. she still has 62 million votes and a lot of supporters. i think she's going to have to very carefully calibrate how she uses that influence in the shorter term before it really, that influence tends to fade. >> the problem, david gregory, is where is this next generation of democratic leaders of which you speak because they are not right now in any elected office. i mane, you look at the
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democrats right now who are in power, they're all people who have been there for a long, long time. chuck schumer who just took over the democrats in the senate, he's not a young guy. we don't know where he will choose to fight. bernie sanders who spoke last night talked about inneed to stand up to the white house and issues like steve bannon. he's not a young guy. abby, i don't know if we know where democrats are going to choose to fight. the last eight or nine days haven't really given us much of a road map. the steve bannon appointment, unanimity among the democratic party that they're going to stand up and fight for that. they're just going to make a lot of noise. they're not going to get anywhere on that. >> it's actually very symbolic. one thing i heard in the last week talking to democrats is they feel like bannon and everything he represents is a huge road block for what they know they have to do, which is compromise on some things that they need to put on the table so that they can move forward in the next cycle. those are economic issues. they can't get to economic issues if they are constantly
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being bombarded with this perception that the trump white house is racist or xenophobic or sexist or what have you. you have labor leaders basically saying, look, we need to deal with this first so that we can talk about trade, so we can talk about infrastructure and talk about taxes. and i think that's where they're headed. not a lot of democrats are going to be very enthusiastic about this posture of compromise. but it's something that i think congressional democrats believe that is not only necessary, but they have no choice at the end of the day. >> errol, very quickly, you know new york politics almost better than anyone else. what is chuck schumer's relationship going forward? >> like a lazar some of the marginal members people that were in trump states can survive 2018. that is 100% of what he is worried about for the next 24 months. try to steal some issues from them. there is actually a fair amount
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on trade and common issues. if it could help schumer maintain his caucus, that's what he's going to do. >> all right, guys. thanks so much. a deadly police shooting that shocked the country as it unfolded live on social media. now, a minnesota police officer will appear before a judge to face charges. we're going to get the family's reaction next on "new day." when heartburn hits, fight back fast with tums smoothies. it starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue. and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. ♪ tum -tum -tum -tum smoothies! only from tums
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time now for the five things to know for your new day. donald trump's transition team pledging to continue the obama ban on lobbyists and impose a five-year lobbying ban on anyone leaving the administration. today he is set to meet with south carolina governor nikki haley and japan's prime minister. hillary clinton urged reporters to stay engaged. secretary clinton acknowledged returning to the spotlight was not so easy. this was her first public appearance since conceding the election. a second day of air strikes by the syrian regime unleashing a blood bath in aaleppo. 87 children killed in the
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bombings. russian officials claim they are not involved. the man accused of setting off bombs in new york. he set off bombs injuring 31 people and he was captured two days later after that dramatic shootout with police. he is expected to be arraigned tomorrow. bob dylan said he felt honored winning this year's nopn nobel prize but not enough to make it to the ceremony. >> you show up for the nobel prize. >> i would, too. for more on the five things to know, go to for the very latest. his death horrified the death. philandro castile. the deadly encounter was streamed live on facebook by castile's girlfriend and the victim's family is speaking out. rosa flores is tracking all the
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developments. hi, rosa. >> good morning. the ramsey county attorney being very, very confident that he can prosecute for a second degree manslaughter charges and also two secondary charges. and he says that one of the key pieces of evidence not that viral video that actually started recording 40 seconds after the seventh shot was fired but the dash cam video of the police officer that captured everything. the before, the during and the after of that traffic stop. >> i told him not to reach for it! >> reporter: philandro castile's final words, i wasn't reaching for it. meaning his gun. >> he let the officer know that he was -- he had a firearm and he was reaching for his wallt and the officer just shot him in his arm. >> reporter: his girlfriend live
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streamed the tense traffic stop this summer. her 4-year-old daughter sitting in the back seat. >> oh, my god. please don't tell me he's dead. >> reporter: castile's death sparking protests in minnesota and across the country. demonstrators asking for justice. >> i will, sir. no worries. i will. >> reporter: wednesday the officer was charged with second degree manslaughter and two felony counts of dangerous discharge of a firearm. >> no reasonable officer would have used deadly force under these circumstances. >> reporter: the criminal complaint, revealing that yanez stopped castile because he looked like the suspect of a prior robbery due to his wideset nose and a failing brake light and that castile informed yanez, sir, i have to tell you that i do have a firearm on me. yanez interrupted castile twice while castile tried to explain.
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>> we believe that castile never removed, nor tried to remove his handgun from his front right pocket. >> reporter: officer yanez firing seven shots. one bullet striking the armrest between castile and reynolds. another hitting near the car seat. she is please would the charges filed against the officer. >> we have gotten to this point and it is necessary for everyone to understand that we want peace. >> reporter: now officer yanez is expected to face a judge on friday and reynolds that you saw in that video live streaming speaking to our affiliate this morning saying that those charges are a good step forward. but, john, she also says that she is counting her blessings because of just how close those
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gunshots came to her and her daughter. >> some difficult times in minnesota. all right, rosa, thanks so much. millions of american women still processing hillary clinton's defeat. for many, the pain runs deep and transcends politics. so, why was this election so personal for so many? that's next on "new day." afoot and light-hearted i take to the open road. healthy, free, the world before me, the long brown path before me leading wherever i choose. the east and the west are mine. the north and the south are mine. all seems beautiful to me. for millions of baby boomers there's a virus out there. a virus that's serious, like hiv, but it hasn't been talked about much.
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many women of all ages. for them her loss is running deeper than politics. here's cnn's. >> reporter: nothing in her liberal routine in los angeles has changed in the week since the presidential election. yet, everything has. >> as comforting as our bubble is that we live in, as hard as it is to have these conversations now, it's important -- i'm sorry. it's important to start listening. >> reporter: why is this so personal to you? >> my children matter to me and minoritieser to me because they're my friends and my community. and i want to make sure they're okay. and they don't feel okay. they feel really scared. >> reporter: women across social media feel theirs is under attack in clinton's loss. video messages from miley cyrus.
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>> please just treat people with love and treat people can compassion and treat people with respect. >> reporter: to ordinary voters. >> this country is my home. and i feel like i'm not welcome here any more. >> reporter: emotion has spilled on to the streets of los angeles. mothers carrying signs and children. students walking out of classrooms at ucla. these ucla students supported hillary clinton. when you say you have fear in you, what do you mean? >> well, i'm a woman. i'm black. i'm muslim and those three factors -- basically being a black muslim woman in america is very scary and trump being elected builds firth on to me fear. >> how can i go forward knowing that someone is okay coming out
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and bragging about sexual assault and voting for that person. >> i had to wake up to that a lot of america is not what los angeles is like. >> reporter: women are still learning about their new national reality. it just doesn't look like any reality they believed they were living. >> there is this underlying fear that is permeating everything and it's really unsettling. it's really unsettling feeling. >> not what everyone is talking about is the geographical divide in this country. not just women, but that people on the coasts feel completely different than a lot of people in the heartland in the mid-section and there is that divide in america. where people on the coast do live in a bubble that is not necessarily reflective of the entire country. and people are trying to now sort of reconcile that. >> there are a lot of things people are processing. hillary clinton leads by a
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million in the popular vote and that number will go up. there are people who feel like, wait a second, our opinions were validated, but the results are not what we were expecting. still, people have to look and see how others are thinking and feeling about this. >> absolutely. a lot to continue to pros. former nfl great hines ward now our cnn colleague may have to make room in his closet for a gold jacket. why? details in the bleacher report, next. ♪
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so there are big swings in the weather working their way across the country. let's get to cnn meteorologist chad myers for the details. what are you seeing, chad? >> i'm seeing cold and flu season right around the corner. because this weather is brought to you by humana. we think great things are ahead of you when your health is ready for them. big cool down. we're going from the 70s to the 40s across the northeast over the next four days. and a snowstorm is developing through the plains.
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a foot of snow or more not quite minneapolis but just northwest of there. rapid city maybe towards the great lakes. that is where the cold air is wrapping in. even michigan, detroit you're going from almost 70 degrees to a high near 40. by the weekend 40. new york city you getcolder, as well. many cities will drop by 25 to 30 degrees all of a sudden you need to find that coat in a hurry. john? >> brace yourselves. all right, chad, thanks so much. major league baseball announced this year's cy young award winners and caused the first split. kate upton and me. andy scholls has more. >> i thought you would say something like that as a red sox fan. kate upton is engaged to juster verlander and went on an epic twitter rant after he came in second for the american league cy young award. now verlander had more
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first-place votes but he got more second and third place votes. he got more points. upton tweeting, verlander had the majority of first place votes and two riders didn't have them on their ballot. can you pick more out of touch people to vote, mlb. you didn't win. #byefelicia. now, she did have another tweet, as well. but it's not tv friendly. if you want tasee that, go look it up on twitter. congrats to cnn's own hines ward. named one of the finalists and the former super bowl mvp and steelers great speaking about the honor last night. >> i was shocked and very hummable. when my agent told me, i just had a big smile on my face and still hard to believe. to have my name mentioned on the semi-finest list of the hall of fame. i can't, i don't want to pinch
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myself. so, i'm very humble. i'm very honored. >> the 2017 class selected four to eight players will get in. alisyn, hopefully hines gets in and he brings us all to canton with him and we do "new day" from there. >> thanks so much, andy. up next cnn goes one-on-one with fox's megyn kelly as she talks about the phone call she got from a trump executive. >> let me put it to you in terms you can understand. if megyn kelly gets killed, it will not help your candidate. >> more of her conversation with anderson cooper, next. lyou gotta make a truck heavier to make it stronger, has been workin' too long without a hard hat.
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more than a week after the election, megyn kelly is revealing some of the threats she now says president-elect
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donald trump unleashed on her apparently this past year. she aired a segment that donald trump did not like and this is what she told cnn's anderson cooper. >> you say in the book that he threatened you. >> he did. so, he was very angry that i had aired that segment. and, you know, i said, look, i did you a favor. i said nobody was even telling the other side of that. they were just accepting this as a relevant story. he didn't see it that way and ultimately i said, look, mr. trump, you don't control the editorial on the kelly file and he said, that's it. you are a disgrace. you ought to be ashamed of yourself and then he said, i almost unleashed my beautiful twitter account against you and i still may. michael cohen who is trump's top lawyer and executive vice president with the trump organization had retweeted, let's gut her about me at a time when the threat level was very high, which he knew. and bill shine, an executive
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vice president at fox called him up to say, you have to stop this. we understand you're angry, but she's got three little kids and walking around new york. really. he didn't much care. and what bill shine said to michael cohen was, let me put it in terms you can understand. if megyn kelly gets killed, it will not help your candidate. >> i don't think it would have made any difference, but some criticize you for not revealing all of this, that conversation you had with trump before where he talked about unleashing his beautiful twitter on you. kind of holding on to that until the book came out. do you think it would have made any difference? >> no. do you think if the "access hollywood" tape didn't make a difference and the 12 female accusers didn't make a difference and none of that mattered that my, you know, he mentioned his beautiful twitter account was going to be a game changer. you know, my approach in this was i wanted to be honest so i had revealed that i had received some death threats and i had a
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guard and that the level was getting a dangerous. but i didn't want to make it any more about me. trump kept trying to make the story about me and the story was about him and, ultimately, hillary clinton. but in the early days about him and the other republicans. i felt like a human being who had been drop under to a shark tank and there were passersby looking in slightly horrified at what was going on. and all i wanted to do last year was get myself out of the shark tank. >> here to cdiscuss all this is our senior cnn media correspondent brian stelter and bill carter. bill, i want to start with you. one of the journalistic questions is why when she had her sit down with donald trump should she, when she said, let's talk about us. should she have said you have threatened me? your people have threatened me.
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>> i still don't understand why she didn't go there. if this was all going on in the background, i believe her. i think she is very sincere and this is pretty emotional stuff. she didn't say to him in that opportunity, listen, your lawyer retweeted this. there's been threats against me. i think needs to be called on this. you need to stop this. it was an opportunity that she passed on and i don't think she's explained why. i would like to hear from her. i would really like to hear from her. >> she just said generally, not to that specific question. no one has asked her that specific question, but she said, didn't want the story to be about me. >> i get that. here you are in this position and it's weighing on you this way. plus, you have him in a one-on-one interrue and very soft interview anyway. it was incumbent upon her anyway i have an issue i really want to raise. i think it would have been journalistically sound. it's about him intimidating the threats. >> when you are talking to someone who is running for president. but, brian stelter, is there a defense here for megyn kelly?
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>> she was a canary in the coal mine. she had a -- as a candidate, we should pay attention to that now that he is the president-elect. >> shouldn't we have paid attention when he was the candidate? >> i think we did. alisyn you were tweeted @donaldtrump and also by his aides. i thought that michael cohen part was very important. cohen last night on twitter was denying this saying he was lying and retweeting people calling her a psycho. doing the same thing he did before. retweet people who are very critical of her. sort of a reminder about the severity. i think we knew most of it, but we didn't know all of it before. to her defense, though, we did know a lot of this. we did know about the security guards and things like that beforehand. >> i think someone should ask her now in all the interviews she's doing, why did you not bring that up when you had a chance one-on-one with him? >> look, i think we all try to
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make these calculations and they're tough ones. we do know things about the candidates that we don't always share and we do know things about how the candidates treat us. i was blacklisted and i tried not to make that the story. i accept she didn't want to be the story. but the only wrinkle in that is that she did have that moment where she said, let's talk about us. at that moment the doors open and let's really go there. >> you're talking about us. they are not really talking about us, are they? >> there was a huge elephant in that room not brought up. >> she was trying to make peace, but at what cost? >> what was her strategy at that point is what i want to know. why go there without confronting? did you want to make sure you had an open door to him in the futer. >> is it wrong to do things for future access? >> not necessarily, but i'd like to hear her explain that. >> the broader issue of the trump presidency. access journalism. a lot what we're going to learn from the trump presidency is going to come from the outside.
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politico just brought in a gossip writer to cover the white house because they're good at getting anonymous sources. that's really important. interviewing trump is great, butted aversarial journalism being on the outside -- >> you bring up access and i think this next issue is not in any way about access. we're talking about the press pool that covers the president of the united states and also the press pool that is supposed to cover the president-elect of the united states twice in the last eight days. he has been president-elect for eight or nine days and twice he has ditched the press pool. that's there to cover him. two nights ago in a restaurant he went out to a steak place and they did it after the press aides and donald trump said he wasn't going on. it wasn't honest or they didn't know. the press should have known where he was going and the reason, brian, you can be there in case something happens to the president-elect. in case something big happens to the country. this isn'tabout --
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>> that's why this matters and it also matters for the mundane reasons of what he's doing everything and. >> and more important with him because he has set a standard that the press is the scum and the enemy and all this and he is announces he has disdain for them. having a steak, maybe too much is being made of this and he is president-elect and things can be ironed out. but there is, obviously a history here of him having real hostility towards the president. where is it going to go is a fair question to ask. >> what if he says, you know, i'm changing that. i'm not going to have a protective press pool when i'm president. then what? >> there is some power that the white house correspondents association does have. then we're not going to cover said events and not put a camera inside the rose guarden for this. >> would they ever do that? would the press ever say i'm not going to cover the president's
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events. >> it does seem really unlikely. >> the president does have quite a bit of power. obama clearly distanced himself from the press a lot, too. they complained severely about that, too. it is probably going to be raised. >> i think he should do the opposite and be the most accessible. it could work very well for him as president. >> bill, brian, thank you. what is your take on all of this, tweet us at new day or post your comments on we're following a lot of news this morning. let's get right to it. the next american president and i could not be more different, but american democracy is bigger than any one person. >> all transitions go through choppy waters. >> i would actually just say it's not going well. >> obviously been a very important part of this campaign. he has great instincts. >> the minute you pick somebody you shrink the possibilities. >> i made my views clear. in fact, i thought many people were afraid. >> it is a bipartisan swamp. donald trump say figure you are
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