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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. ♪ good morning, everyone. we're so grateful to have your company. i'm christi paul. >> and i'm martin savidge in for victor blackwell. we welcome our viewers from the u.s. and around the world. we begin with breaking news out
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of cuba. former cuban leader fidel castro is dead at the age of 90. his brother made that announcement. >> in havana, it is quiet. news slowly reaching people. many people waking up to this news. the cuban revolutionary to installed a communist government in the country obviously is no more. look here, though, at what you're seeing happening in miami. very different atmosphere there. cuban exiles to the state of cuba. you can hear them banging pots and pans. and many of them, we've been hearing chanting freedom. >> we have cnn's patrick oppmann in havana. he's the only american correspondent in cuba. >> patrick, i've been hearing
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that you have been actually breaking the news to some of these people that you've been talking to that fidel castro is dead. help us understand what that's like for you and what their reaction is, in that moment they realize he's gone. >> reporter: people are just stunned. even though fidel castro, of course, has been ailing now for a decade. there have been numerous false reports of his death. so many said when he finally did die, nobody would believe it, but that has not been my experience. as i've now told many people throughout last night and this morning, the news of fidel castro. it very slowly trickled out here, after raul castro's surprise announcement. when i would tell them, they would be stunned, stiffen up, look downcast. a woman i've another for many years now began to sob not for the love of the man but the finality of weight of history on
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their shoulders and certainly what it means for the future of this island. now, we know what the next two weeks will bring which is a period of official mourning when you have an event like this in cuba. bars and restaurants are closed. children are prohibited to sing in school sometimes. here, we'll see massive rallies in the home of cuba, in havana, where he grew up. and his ashes, as it's said that fidel castro will be cremated this morning. and then across the island, of course, then, supporters came out along the streets and highways to welcome him, as his young charismatic revolutionary was driven to havana. now, a man so controversial, so
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divisive, in cuba. in santiago, cuba. in just a few hours, you have to think when the sun rises over us, it rises over a very different cuba and cubans. and it will take some time to absorb this news and begin to wonder about what this news means for their future. >> patrick oppmann, thank you thank you very much. >> fidel castro was born in cuba, and castro ruled cuba for nearly 50 years. first as prime minister and then as president. he was known for his long fiery speeches. military fatigues, and of course, cigars. and was widely criticized for his freedom of speech. turn his reign, and he named his
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brother raul his successor. the cold era ruled lived long enough to see the relationship with the united states. joins me now is christiane amanpour in london. first, let me get your reaction, christiane. >> martin, it was inevitable, 90 years old, he outlasted ten u.s. presidents but the last one, barack obama outlasted him and changed the dynamic, since 1959, when cuba came under castro's control and re-established those diplomatic relations with cuba. it remains to be seen whether that will ever happen in the foreseeable future. of course, castro but a
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dictatorship 90 miles from the united states. the distance from florida and cuba is very short. and this relationship, at least in 1962 the cuban missile crisis, but also influencing latin american countries all over the region. and countries in africa and elsewhere who were inspired by his anti-americanism and anti-imperialism and fervor. of course, many, many others who opposed him and who were very upset with the kind of rule he had inside of cuba. i was there in 1988, when he started to open the door just a teeny chink when he invited pope paul to cuba. it was the first time a pope had ever come. it was a small opening of the door to the rest of the world. and that was an interesting moment. and just to follow on with what patrick was saying about people
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getting the news, the writer and journalist anneliese bartack has a friend in cuba, who said he had the news, we are stopping our performance, fidel castro is dead. in cuba, they never stopped the music. and a lot of police presence in the streets. >> i know you had a conversation with castro's niece. help us understand what that conversation was like, what was she like? what was the expectation? >> well, i did talk to her and also earlier, as her father raul castro took over for fidel and started to make a few reforms. economic reforms and a tiny little bit of liberation going on there. by no means achieved it and there's a huge, huge amount of work to do.
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mariana castro herself, being part of that family, it's a family party. it's not even a one-party system. it's the castro family that runs that island. she herself started to sort of lobby for a lot more freedom, for instance, for the gay community. she was very much into freedoms and respects for the day community. and of course, at the beginning, they were considered illegal and heavily oppressed at the beginning of the cuba revolution. she was hoping there would be a lot more between the world and particularly the united states. so interesting even though president obama did sort of run around the state department and held these cards very close to himself when he announced that almost two years ago now in december 2014, that when obama went to cuba with his family in march of this year, fidel was sort of holed out of his sick
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room. off of his sick bed, wearing that bright blue track suit looking incorrectly frail. but going to the party to one last voice on his politics. and he denounced any idea of reform. and he was very critical of president obama in an article after president obama left. but it is assumed that without his say-so and without his blessing, so to speak, his brother raul would not have made that. still, a real conflicted relationship between castro's cuba and the united states. >> christiane amanpour, thank you very much. i know we'll be talking more with you throughout the morning. thank you. ahead, we're live from miami, where cuban-americans are inspired by what fidel's death would mean for the history of cuba. >> i've been waiting for 56
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cnn's cliff moody and alejandro concejka are joining us live. i want to start with you, i'm sure you talked with the people in the crowd, i will point out that u.s. representative arianna ros-lehtinenen who was born in cuba, said what was seen isn't necessarily a celebration of his death, but, quote, an opportunity of freedom. are you seeing that, celebrating that or the fact that castro is dead this morning? >> reporter: i think that's what a politician would say. there are people in the crowd who are explicitly celebrating the death of fidel castro. this is day, even though it might not have sparked change, but a day they've been waiting for a long time.
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they've been meeting in the streets right now. the sun is just now rising and people are still dancing in the streets and will continue throughout the day here in the part of miami where so many cuban exiles live. >> alejandro, what are you hearing from friends and family members? >> it's -- i think, that what we're seeing, what i'm hearing from friends and family, at least my in-laws were originally from cuba, and they kind of downplayed it, but at the same time, you could tell that this is a big moment for them. they've fled their home. they had to start anew here. it's just bittersweet to know that the man who forced them out essentially has passed on now. speaking of friends, i had a friend of mine today, or last night, was fighting back tears knowing what his name lost following the revolution. what could have been, now at this point, it's just a what if
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for a lot of people. we're just wondering at this point, how the community moves forward. and if we can really patch up those open wounds that have been festering for so long. >> okay. so alejandro, that's what i want to ask you about, as we look forward, what is the expectation of people like your wife, of your in-laws, as they try to craft in their minds what is forthcoming now that fidel castro has died? what is the expectation for cuba and u.s. relations? and for them particularly who may still have family in cuba. >> yeah, kristi, i think there's been talk for years of just having open dialogue. freedom of expression, we have the women in white, who are constantly out on the streets, vouching for their husbands or for their loved ones who have
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been wrongfully impreisoned. they're political prisoners at this point. and hopefully, that can move forward. and just the basic needs and privileges that we have here in the states, that they want for their family across the bay. >> chris moody and alejandro fonseka, thank you for joining us. cnn correspondent boris sanchez is joining us on the phone. boris, you were born in cuba and you moved to the u.s. for political asylum with your family. we're wondering your thoughts this morning. >> good morning, martin and christi. really, my thoughts are with my grand parents. they've been the ones that have suffered the most. they've been praying for this moment for many years, they're not with us anymore, unfortunately. there's no gray area. some people exult him and believe that he stood as a figure that challenged, what he
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perceived as u.s. imperialism around the world. many believe what he's done in cuba is a success. with the fact that cuba has the highest literacy rate in the world. they have doctors that is he send, again, all over the world, to assist in all kinds of emergencies. and then you'll find people that, as i said, were anxiously awaiting this day. i can tell you, as long as i can remember, my grandmother had an obscenely large cuban flag that she was waiting to use. she kept it under her bed. she was waiting for this day to go outside and pop open a bottle of wine and celebrate. fidel took everything from here. she had a business and landed in power. shortly after he took power, it didn't belong to her anymore. my grandfather fougts ht in the
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fidel revolution. he saw the direction after fidel took power and saw the direction that things were heading and openly started to organize against fidel. as many have suffered the same fate over the years. he was thrown in prison. sentenced to 20 years in prison basically for speaking his mind. the interesting thing about that, he always considered himself lucky because so many of his friends were put in front of firing squads. that's kind of the legacy you get with fidel. you have someone that some people see as an unbelievable leader, in the sense that he took this tiny island of about 11 million people. and made it relevant on the world stage. he was a towering figure. and then you also have people that have taken, as many belongings as they can carry and put them on a floating plank of wood to risk their lives in the ocean to get away from what this man created. so there really is no middle ground with fidel.
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my thoughts right now, of course as i said with my grandparents and my parents. in terms of political system, the real question is what's going to happen in 2018, where fidel's daughter raul said that he will step aside. but as far as political changes it's mostly a symbolic figure. and he's been mostly a symbolic figure for the past years. by the way, i can tell you, at least for my parents, today is the day they've been waiting for a very, very long time. >> boris sanchez, thank you for the political rundown and very personal as well. we thank you. our president-elect trump is threatening to undo efforts by president obama to bring the u.s. and cuba closer together. this is part of the conversation through the election. what does castro's death now mean for u.s./cuba relations?
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>> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. we want to welcome you, our viewers here in the u.s. and around the world. i'm christi paul. >> and i'm martin savidge in for victor blackwell. breaking news this morning, former cuban leader fidel castro has died. he was 90 years ago old. his brother raul castro announced miss death at 10:30 last night and said he will be cremated early this morning. >> castro death has prompted a mix of reaction in miami here, as you see here, there are smiles you see. there is also grief until other parts. celebrations erupted overnight,
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though in miami, where these cuban exiles view him as an enemy of cuban rights. they were popping champagne. they were cheering. waving the cuban flag. in the meantime, cuba declared nine days of mourning. and that started about a half hour ago. now world leaders are reacting to castro's death. the pressed mident of mexico tw this, fa kel castro was a friend of mexico. the president of ecuador, a great one has died. long live cuba. and i just sent a sign of solidarity for commander in the death of fidel castro. >> ileana ros-lehtinen defeated both tyrant and thug, fidel
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castro is dead. we must work for a cuba that is free, democratic and prosperous. >> and in cuba and the united states, with the u.s. opening of the embassy in havana. >> reporter: fidel castro's were dwindling. saying soon i will be like everyone else. after a fear fatal illness in 2008, castro turned the reins of power to his younger brother raul. as cuba's new president began taking tentative steps towards reform, the u.s. began to ease its restrictions. fidel castro was suspicious writing in january 2015, although he does not trust u.s. poles and have not exchanged a word with them, this does not mean however that i will would oppose a peaceful solution to conflicts or threats of war. in september of last year, fidel
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met with pope francis and they talked about problems of humanity which the pope had condemned cuba's totalitarian regime. and barack obama visited cuba seven months after we established diplomatic relations. he met with raul castro, but not fidel. here we was shown in occasional photos with foreign leaders. inspired by marx, castro was watching his revolution change in a way that was beyond his control. rafael romo, cnn. >> one -- juan carlos. it became as a surprise by many
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people in cuba as reported by patrick oppmann who broke the news in cuba. at the end of the day, the government has been planning for this, this is not a surprise at all. but from your perspective, when you heard that he had passed on, what was your initial reaction? >> i was surprised. i was asleep. i was awoken by the story. and i couldn't believe that it was happening but, yes, cuba had been preparing.government had been preparing. fidel castro had been preparing. and that speech that he showed right after president obama had left cuba. he had said good-bye to cubans. he was in poor health, the transition had started many years before. so you see a very iconic figure of the 20th century that survived the 21st century. that overlived at least in power ten or 11 u.s. presidents. and now he passes right before president-elect trump assumes the white house. but, yes, you see a fear that is
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revered by many, hated by others. very conversational. but someone able to establish a communist government 90 miles from the u.s. and have that government and become a respected leader as he showed as a latin american leader. it say big story. it is not surprising. >> i know you were in cuba in march when president obama visited there, what were the relations there? >> you have to go back to 2014 when president obama made the simultaneous announcement by raul castro. there was a lot of hope. people were really happy, president obama say very popular figure in cuba but when time passed and saw that change wasn't coming as fast as expected, they lost some hope but expecting that it will change in the future. everyone was acknowledging how important this was. but then you have fidel castro saying good-bye. it's a moment of transition for
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cubans, they expect some things to happen. also, things haven't advanced as fast as they could. the question is what would happen when the white house is occupied by someone different from barack obama who wanted to have his as part of his legacy and then goes to donald trump. >> yes. there are questions about how that transition will be made. i want to just point out to the viewers that the picture that they're just seeing there was the last known picture, public picture of fidel castro ten days ago. as he was meeting there with one. other dignitaries, a vietnamese leader, i believe, who came to meet him. this is big. this is the last picture. public picture, that we have, ten days ago of fidel castro. juan carlos, when we talk about change, what we're seeing in miami, i don't know if we can pull up shots from miami, what we're seeing there. as people are hearing this news,
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obviously, the crowds are dissipating a little bit. they're flying the american flag there. been very vocal chanting freedom. how expeditious do you believe change may be? because at the end of the day, raul castro will still be leading cuba, at least for -- is it the next year, correct me here? is it the next year? >> the next two years. >> next two years, he announce head will stay in leadership sand then pass on the baton. >> this is where it's very interesting because cuba had already started this process since 2008, with raul castro, he's been in front and ahead of re-establishment of relations with the u.s. but this was already a process that was ongoing. so there is no surprise. there is no vacuum of power in cuba right now. it will be interesting to see how cubans react on the island, once they find out when they wake up this morning, many of them are finding out right now,
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what happens different from what people expecting that this would happen. raul castro is to cubans their president, the leader of their government. he's the one in charge, what they've seen from raul castro, again from speaking to them, they saw raul castro as a figure. an important figure. influential figure, someone who the government went to for add rice, but he wasn't the leader of the country anymore. it will be interesting to see not only in miami, but havana. >> thank you for that. still ahead, we'll talk with a pulitzer prize winning photographer who knew fidel and share what he knew about the late cuban leader.
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from photos from nelson mandela and muhammad ali, fidel castro has been pictured in many different photos. >> david, good morning. i know that you worked with castro during history's biggest moments. first of all, i want to put up a picture here. would you please tell us your experience in watching mandela's inauguration, and the -- i guess, the reaction of the two, of castro and mandela. as i understand there was complete silence as they embraced. is that correct? >> yeah, on the day of nelson
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mande mandela's inauguration, in 19 anoth 94, was a 30 years since mandela was given a life sentence. the end of apartheid in south africa, just as he was inaugura inaugurated, there was a launching from heads of states from arnold the world. in a large area, i was kneeling next to hillary clinton and the delegation from the united states, people who i have spent time with president clinton in 1992. all of a sudden, in walks fidel castro. and really, this whole group of people who had been obviously, very much connected through politics, through history, through fidel castro. none of them had actually seen
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fidel in person before. and what i think was properly very surprising to people. just the presence that he has. he, first of all, he's extremely tall. he's like nelson mandela. he's about 6'3", 6'4", and they both have extraordinarily wide shoulders. and when he walks through the room. the excitement, i remember the excitement with the american delegation, we just all got big smiles on their faces. and he then just greeted nelson mandela, and the two were standing one in front of the other. fidel had been very important for president mandela, and for the south africa struggle, in terms of the sport from the struggle received from fidel and the cubans. and i think ideologically, they just had such respect for what fidel, at least, in their minds, had represented in terms of
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aspirations. of certain views of equality. i think their view of fidel was that he had -- he had conducted a revolution amidst a side that was different. >> i know what you said about the electricity that is in the room when fidel walks in the room, here you have mohammuhammi and castro, what was going on in this photo. >> again, i had gone to cuba with ali in the late '90s. as he was going to the cuban, and they had a meeting. again, what was always striking the times i've been around fidel, and certainly in a few
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cases with ali, interestingly, again, fidel was an athlete. so there was an immediate connection that ali had with them. we have two very strong men who had been tremendous athletes with the charisma, and the electricity. the pulse that you experience is pretty amazing. and they, you know, they just love each other. i had brought with me a book of photographs that were photographs of over 30 years of my work around the world. and i presented it to fidel at that time. i speak spanish. and he took time to go through every single photograph. and he was fascinated by the images. and was actually very grandfatherly in his way. and could not have been more magnanimous in the time that i had the opportunity to speak
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with him. >> david, thank you so much for sharing your experiences. >> appreciate it. >> yeah, that's something that not a lot of people have had the opportunity to do. we appreciate hearing your voice, thank you. >> thank you very much. >> it sort of is an official biography of a person. thank you. fidel castro was a catholic before a communist. and he welcomed three popes to the island. next pope francis' really in foreign relations between cuba and the u.s. my name is pam. i'm 51 years old. when i was diagnosed with pneumococcal pneumonia, it was huge for everybody. she just started to decline rapidly. i was rushed to the hospital... my symptoms were devastating. the doctor said, "pam! if you'd have waited two more days,
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breaking news, the former
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cuban leader fidel castro mass died. >> fidel castro was a jesuit. an order in the catholic church. as leader, he welcomed three popes to the island. pope francis was instrumental in the relationship between the u.s. and cuba. joining us now is correspondent ben wedeman. ben, talk to us about how pivotal the role of the pope was in his last meeting with fidel castro. >> well, certainly, he was pivotal in the sense of really laying the groundwork for the re-establishment of relations between cuba and the united states, which, of course, had been cut off since the early 1960s. now, pope francis, of course, is the first latin american pope. he's very interested in the
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relationships between latin america. and the world but really, when you look at the development of the relationships between the vatican and cuba, it's been quite interesting. for instance, the vatican did not cut off relations with cuba when it officially became socialist. in 1961. that was a year when the cuban government cut down, rather, shut down the catholic university of villenueva. it shut down 350 catholic schools and confiscated hundreds of churches, nonetheless, the vatican retained relations with cuba. and it wasn't until 1996, when john paul ii met with castro that things began to change in 1988. you had that historic visit from pope john paul ii to cuba.
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and the relationship developed. in fact, in the end, pope john paul ii met with fidel castro five times. and that really set the groundwork for this gradual improvement in relations. and, of course, that relationship between the vatican and cuba was critical in re-establishing relations between washington and havana. christi. martin. >> all right. ben wedeman reporting live for us from rome there. ben, thank you so much for that perspective. fidel castro leaves behind a very different cuba than the one when he held power for 47 years. up next, we'll talk about how these years of defiance of the u.s. shaped the legacy of several american presidents. sites to find a better price...l ...stop clicking around... the lowest prices on our hotels are always at so pay less and get more only at what's the best way to get v8 or a fancy juice store?s?
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welcome back. we're following breaking news this morning. the former cuban leader fidel castro dead at 90. the u.s. and cuba had a long and strained relationship that only recently started to normalize. going back to 1960, not long that far, castro took power. and the u.s. launched a trade embargo against that invasion. in 1968, of course there was bay of pigs, the invasion. and in the cuban missile crisis and the standoff between the u.s. and soviet union. in 1980, 100,000 cubans fled to florida, and then the opening of the guantanamo bay prison camp.
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fidel castro spanned seven decades and 11 u.s. presidents. he outlived six of those presidents including john f. kennedy, richard nixon and ronald reagan. we want to brink in douglas brinkley joining us by phone. douglas, your reaction that so many are waking up to the news that fidel castro has died. >> well, it's -- you know, nobody should be surprised. his health has been deteriorating for some while. he hasn't wanted to be photographed very often. he's been overseeing a new opening in his country with his brother raul which president obama seemed to take some advantage of and the fact that americans can now go and travel to cuba. i teach at rice university in houston, and a group of our college baseball players are headed right now to play the first college baseball series in cuba. so, things have changed but the
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big point about fidel castro is what you mentioned, in the lead-in. how he's outlived so many american presidents. i mean, it's just mind-boggling to think, coming in when dwight eisenhower was president, and into and gone through the whole litany of u.s. presidents, still in power. so he's been a big part of the consciousness of our time. and a major figure in american history, because during the cold war, he offered an alternative to people in latin america to the united states. he always made the united states his boogieman. and promised to over -- some day overthrow yankee imperialism. and detracted people in latin america. and in later years, was very influential with hugo chavez of venezuela to help keep cuba
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afloat. and the soviet union started spending petro dollars to keep the castro government propped up. but he's been an enemy of the united states, fidel castro. on the other hand, people have been mesmerized by his ability to survive. and the fact that he can run a dictatorship of kind, just so close to american shores ever florida. >> you point out, douglas, you know, he referred to the u.s. as kind of the boogieman of cuba. but it also works the other way around there are many who considered cube back to the archenemy just off the shore there. >> well, the big problem became the bay of pigs with john f. kennedy. you know, cuban exiles and the batista regime were living in florida. they trained to become their own
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military force. our cia backed that effort. and they invaded's these exiled cubans invadesed john f. kennedy's presidency. and i teach on john f. kennedy, we talk about the failure of bay of pigs as a diaster of the united states. but if you go like obama did, there's a museum that celebrates the bay of pigs. well, a tension started occurring, cuba started deciding if we invade again, we need protection. and they allowed the soviet union to come in and start putting up ballistic missiles. building missile sites and that was a terrible tension that led to the cuban missile crisis. the most dangerous moment of the entire cold war with the united
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