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>> we'll see what the president-elect and vice president-elect and the secretary of state decide to do. elise, thanks for that report. that's it for me. thanks for watching. i'll be back 5:00 p.m. east american the situation room. for our international viewers "amanpour" is next. for our viewers in the u.s., "newsroom" with ana cabrera starts right now. >> hello on this tuesday. i'm ana cabrera in for brooke baldwin. thanks for joining me. president-elect trump says he want s to permanently ground the new air force one. he said in a tweet "costs are out of control, more than $4 billion, cancel order." >> totally out of control, it will be over $4 billion for air force one program. and i think it's ridiculous. i think boeing is doing a little
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bit of a number. we want boeing to make a lot of money, but not that much money. joining me now, cnn aviation analyst mary schiavo who once served as inspector general of the u.s. department of transportation. also with us, cnn aviation correspondent rene marsh. rene, trump through out this number, $4 billion, and what is boeing saying and what have you learned about the contract? >> ana, i spoke with a source familiar with boeing's deal with the government. it's safe to say the airplane manufacturer was caught off guard by trump's comments today, but in response to trump's tweet, the source says, and i'm quoting now, that they do not know exactly where he's getting that number from. now, right now, boeing only has a contract with the government for design and redevelopment of that new air force one. and the company is saying that in the statement that you see right there on the screen. it says "we are currently under contract for $170 million too
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help develop the capabilities of these complex military aircraft that serve the unique requirements of the president of the united states." they go on to say they look forward to working with the u.s. air force to deliver the best planes at the best value. so in other words boeing is working with the government, still working with them, to figure out the bells and whistles that need to be added to the plane. my source also telling me that the pentagon has not even decided whether they want two or three planes so the final cost has not been set. just quite yet. >> so very preliminary stages in some ways when it comes to this new air force one and, again, $170 million that boeing cites is a lot different than $4 billion than donald trump is saying. mary, i want to ask you, though, about safety. we know the current air force one has been flying since president h.w. bush, since 1990. when it comes to safety, how necessary are these new planes? >> well, because air force one is not flown in punishing service like commercial
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airliners, it only has about 10,000 hours on each of the planes. compare that to a commercial service plane of the same age, it would have 100,000 hours. the air force checks it very carefully for any problems, fatigues, cracking, and it has been updated with a state-of-the-art hardened communications system that is secure, tested very frequently in texas by the air force and it has mat or tador and nemesis anti-missile systems that confuse missiles. it's continuously updated state-of-the-art and it's not close to being tired iron so president barack obama, president-elect trump and a couple presidents after that will be safe on the plane. >> you're not worried about life span? >> no, it's a low-hour plane -- planes, there's two of them. >> since donald trump has weighed in on this already, is it a done deal? what happens? the deal go away with boeing? >> no, what will happen is --
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boeing can't really get any more money and the air force can't spend any money until congress appropriates it. so the air force can decide to push this back, as they have many times before. they was pushed back in 2012 and so this date has already been pushed out several times so the air force can push the date back further or congress can say and take a lead from the president-elect and say, you know, we can delay this and we're not going to appropriate any more money for it and it's against the law to spend money that congress hasn't appropriated so that could end it, too. >> all right, mary schiavo, rene marsh, thanks to both of you. meantime, a couple of trump staff picks are under fire today. let's start with his national security advisor, retired lieutenant general michael flynn. 53 organizations are now calling for trump to dump flynn from this position which does not require senate confirmations. now the groups are nonprofits, activists organizations, they say in a letter that flynn "has written that fear of muslims is
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rational and said that islam is a political ideology and a cancer that hides behind being a religion and continuously peddles the nonsensical fear of sharia law spreading in the united states." let me bring in david chalian. david, these groups say flynn is a threat to national security. now help us remember, he was elected, or at least selected, i should say, a couple weeks ago. why are we seeing this new bombardment? >> i think the criticism has been out there and i think people are becoming more aggressive. you noted in your remarks there, there is no senate confirmation here. i haven't seen donald trump run away from a controversy in the entirety of the presidential campaign, really. so i don't see how this blowback is going to amount to something, because that would be out of character for donald trump to say "oh, you're right, two controversial of a figure, let me get rid of him and move on." there's a reason mike flynn is in a non-confirmable position,
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just a presidential appointment in the west wing because it would be tough to get him fully through a senate confirmation process. >> do you think the timing might have to do with the tweet from general michael flynn's son who was also part of the transition process, we understood, until today when trump's camp said, no, no, no, he's not part of the transition anymore. >> i don't know the timing is connected to that. i think in looking at the fact the trump campaign clearly cut ties, the trump transition, cut ties with mike flynn's son, remember, they said all he was doing was scheduling work for his dad, that's why he had a government official transition e-mail address to help be -- but he was not part of any conversation. but what he became clear is that e-mail address is no longer existent. he said said by the transition to have nothing to do with it and that's clearly in response to this fake news controversy that he was enmeshed in. >> do you think secretary of state and who is selected by donald trump to be the nominee, that position, might be selected
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based on some kind of strategy in balancing general flynn? >> well, potentially. remember, the role of the national security advisor traditionally has been coordinating defense, state, all the different big high profile national security cabinet proponents and those departments. sort of coordinating their information incoming and giving them their marching orders to those cabinet secretaries from the oval office. so that has been a critical position. i do think there is no doubt when he's looking for that secretary of state position he knows he's going to formally name general mattis to defense today, he's also named make mine from, this is a third leg of that stool that will need to work together. >> two generals, we'll see what happens with number three. another pick of trump's receiving pushback, ben carson now being the nominee for the housing and urban development secretary. listen to what mark lamont hill said about this. >> leadership skills are not
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transferable. the leader of wu tang clan, lebron james is the leader of cleveland cavaliers. doesn't mean he should be the leader of housing and urban development. he himself said "i don't know how to run anning o office, i d know how to run a bureau, i don't have any experience, if he says that himself, why do you choose him to be the leader of one of the most significant departments in america?" ma . >> he was animated. do you think his criticism is fair? >> i think the democrats are seizing on the carson nomination as one they want to plant the flag on and express opposition towards. part of that is because housing and urban development, the department deals with so much of the base of the democratic party and urban pockets across the country. they feel ben carson completely goes against the values that they, democrats, want. but remember with these appointments, ana, it's most important to look at where donald trump's own party is disagreeing with him.
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the democrats are in the minority in the senate, in the minority in the house. they can make a big stink about it. they can try to really convince the country in some groundswell way that ben carson doesn't belong in this position but they don't have a lot of levers to pull other than sort of making their opposition known so i'm not sure it will amount to donald trump reversing course from this. >> i have to ask you about chris christie real quick. we saw a dismal 19% approval rating today from the quinnipiac survey and this is the lowest of any governor that quinnipiac has found in its last 20 years of polling. >> in all the states quinnipiac polls, no governor in 20 years has been that low. >> what does this mean? >> this is clearly a result of the bridgegate krocontroversy. more than 7 in 10 new jerseyians in that poll say they don't believe chris christie, they do think he had knowledge of what his aides were going to do on the bridge and it's reflective of his fading national star, being removed from being in
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charge of the transition of trump, being sidelined from that. all of this happening after his failed presidential bid. this is clearly the bottom of chris christie's political popularity in his home state. >> is his political future toast, do you think? >> well, you never want to say somebody's political future is toast. politics has a way of reinvigorating, rejuvenating people and they can reinvent themselves but this is a tough moment for chris christie who has only got a year left in his job. he's leaving on a very low note. >> david chalian, thank you so much. very soon president obama is giving his final speech on national security. he will be giving trump some very public advise including on the subject of torture. new details on what we can expect. plus, tonight a white supremacist will be speaking on the campus of texas a&m. you're about to hear from the man who invited him. and for the first time, the manager of the deadly warehouse fire in oakland speaks out and lashes out over questions.
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president obama is less than
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two hours away from what's expected to be his final address on national security. his speech on his legacy, his successes, challenges, unfinished business and maybe advise for his successor donald trump. there are several topics mr. obama will cover that he and the president-elect simply don't agree on. let's break it down with chief national security correspondent jim sciutto in washington and international correspondent clarissa ward joining us from london. jim, first, what do we expect the president to focus on today. >> this is going to be a broad presentation, you might even say defense of the obama foreign poli policy, national security legacy over the last eight years. we're told by the administration this was a speech he was planning to deliver before the election so regardless of whether it was clinton or trump in the white house but when you look at the positions he'll lay out, the cases he'll make, many of these are ones that he has stark disagreements with his successor, closing guantanamo, of course, that was the promise president obama signed really within days of his inauguration,
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hasn't been able to follow through on it. donald trump has said he wants to expand guantanamo, put a lot of bad dudes there, he said. he's going to talk about the benefits of the iran nuclear deal, trump says he wants to tear that up. obama will make the case that torture doesn't work or mesh with american values. donald trump during the campaign said he wants to reinstate it although his choice for defense secretary has spoken to him about how he believes it simply doesn't work, it's ineffective. i will say, ana, that there is possibly some area of agreement here with donald trump because barack obama is going to talk about surgical forces strikes like the iraq invasion, that's something donald trump might agree with because he said he thought the iraq war was one of the greatest mistakes in recent memori memories. so possibly somewhere in there a
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little agreement. not that anyone from the trump camp will be looking for areas of agreement. >> jim, you painted a picture of co contrast. we know national security is one area where the president and president-elect have differences. clarissa, what's the view of folks overseas as they're watching this transition? >> i think, ana, it's fair to say there is a lot of concern about this transition but not for the reasons people might expect. not necessarily because president-elect trump has any someone specific policy. there the real source of anxiety overseas, particularly in europe, is the fact that donald trump is an unknown commodity and he is essentially in the way he is carrying out business, he is dispensing with the rule book. he is saying no more diplomatic
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protocol. he is back channeling instead of going through central channels of power. china was caught by the surprise with the incident with taiwan. donald trump not going about that in a traditional way. some allies have also been disenchanted with president obama, they didn't feel they were getting the support they needed, that they have enjoyed from the u.s. they're looking for some kind of affirmation but they're not sure what they're going to get. >> concern among allies but perhaps foes, too. we're hearing from iran's president today coming out saying he's not going to let the u.s. go back on the nuclear deal. donald trump, we know, wants to renegotiate the deal.
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we know his pick for defense wants to join him tonight. james mad dis, he says iran is the number one threat during the middle east. so what does this mean for the iran deal? you have five members of the security council, russia, china, european partners, too, the idea that russia and china want to renegotiate, extremely unlikely. u.s. allies in europe, you have loads of european companies who have already signed or are signing lucrative business deals in iran. do you get them on board to the same degree? it's difficult to imagine that coming together there are other ways that the u.s. can push iran. one thing that's been mentioned
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including by advisers to the trump transition is going after iran's missile technology. we've seen ballistic missile tests by iran, that's an area where the u.s. can apply pressure but tearing up that deal, renegotiating it with partners involved is difficult to imagine how that happens. >> clarissa, some interesting comments today from the german chancellor angela merkel. she says "we are dealing with a situation in the world right now, especially after the u.s. elections, in which the world has to sort itself out. especially with a view to nato and the relationship with russia. what do you take away from that? >> this is an interesting speech. what angela merkel -- she herself is facing reelection next year. she has seen firsthand, as we all have, this wave of populism not just in the u.s. with the election of donald trump but
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also in the uk with britain voting to leave the eu. with the italian prime minister handing in his resignation. she's also referring specifically to the issue of nato and russia and the world order being upended. it's no secret donald trump says he favors closer ties with russia, he's spoken in praise of president vladimir putin many times. he's also spoken out against nato. he has decried the fact that europe does not, quote, in his view pay its fair share of the bill for that alliance and, of course, we know as well that president putin also not a fan of nato, sees it as an existential threat to russia, see this is nato encirclement which he views as hostile so europe is really doing some soul searching, trying to read the tea leaves, see what happens for them next. this alliance may be shifting. there is definitely a shift in
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the zeitgeist here in europe and i wanted to read, angela merkel also went on to say that many people feel the world is "going off the rails." it is difficult, ana to overemphasize just how profound the sense of change is in europe and the sense of anxiety about that change and the sense that 2017 could be a very pivotal way in many, different capacities. ana? >> change is not easy, even when it is good change in some cases. clarissa ward and jim sciutto, many thanks to both of you. >> thanks. we have this just in. donald trump making a rare appearance right now in front of reporters at trump tower with a special guest also and an announcement on jobs. stand by, we'll get to that next.
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this just in, donald trump made an announcement at trump tower moments ago about jobs and he had a guest. listen. >> this is masa of softbank from japan and he's agreed to invest $50 billion in the united states and 50,000 jobs. and he's one of the great men of industry so i just want to thank you very much. >> thank you, thank you. >> thank you very much. >> let's bring? jessica schneider at trump tower. also christina alesci. jessica, tell us more about what went down here. >> well, ana, first of all, this has been a very very cal aocal visible donald trump today. this is the second time he came down to trump tower to address reporters. the first time he came down to
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talk about his boeing tweets but this time to make an interesting announcement. he stood with a japanese businessman he referred to as masa from softbank saying softbank would, in fact, invest $50 billion into the u.s. economy toward businesses and 50,000 new jobs so an interesting announcement that we have to discern the details on and figure out what this deal might entail but donald trump has been visible and vocal today. of course donald trump campaigned on putting america first, spurring jobs, spurring the economy as well as putting innovation first. a few days ago he announced carrier would be saving a thousand jobs, today talking about the deal with the japanese bank. a lot more we need to figure out here, donald trump giving us very little in the lobby of trump tower but, yes, saying the japanese bank agreeing to invest $50 billion into the american
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economy and create 50,000 new jobs, ana? >> sounds like good news on the surface. christina, this seemed to be an off-the-cuff moment. did you see this coming? >> no one saw this coming. he's obviously taking meetings with a bunch of people, having conversations with companies and ceos but one of the things to keep in mind is the devil is in the details. this could be a great thing but softbank is an investment arm of a big company and they can come in and buy companies here in the u.s. so he may be talking about a big acquisition that softbank is going to make. softbank bought sprint a couple years ago. so we don't know what kind of -- what this could be. it could be a simple acquisition. this is another example of donald trump the showman getting stuff done. what he wants to show the american public is that he can get stuff done day one, he can pick up the phone and call these heads of industries and ceos and really make a deal, right? the question is, what kind of
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deals is he making? >> and at what cost, perhaps. >> exactly. with the carrier deal as we saw him bringing jobs back to indiana, that cost local taxpayers some money, right? so we have to get the real details of these deals and what donald trump is tacking about because he likes to go out there -- like with boeing today, for example, he was out there saying it costs too much for air force one. >> and boeing is a u.s. company. >> he put a $4 billion out there, most average people look out there and say, wow, that is an extreme amount of money." but they don't know that the payments come in smaller portions and it's probably not even $4 billion, actually. but putting all of that aside what we have to do is take a step back and look at donald trump as a negotiator and one who likes to raise lots of passions with the public and then he turns around and the
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ceos of these companies and these businessmen are willing to take this from him because they know they have his ear, right? last week i broke a story about donald trump appointing a group of ceos he'll meet with on a regular basis. they want lower taxes, they want fewer regulations, they know if they give donald trump a feather in his cap they can get something more valuable in return, right? >> well, we all know he is doing things differently than what we have traditionally seen prior administrations. there's so much unpredictability when it comes to donald trump and the devil is in the details. we'll let you sort out what the details are. come back and let us know, that's for sure. again, that breaking news about donald trump's announcement. thanks to christina alesci and jessica schneider at trump tower. let's move on to new information about the warehouse fire that claimed at least 36 lives in oakland, california and after searching 85% of the charred building, firefighters are telling us they don't expect the death toll to rise any
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further so a deliver of good news but the damage is done and hearts are broken as hundreds of mourners have been gathering to remember the victims. the emotions running very high right now among both former and current residents of the warehouse. >> what do you want to say to those who are mourning who lost friends and loved ones? you yourself have lost friends. >> there's nothing i can say. there's nothing anyone can say. there's nothing. it's just tragedy, horror and tragedy. it's not a time to fight each other. there's just -- can we please embrace each other. it's just beyond.
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>> also today in an interview on nbc, the warehouse manager apologized but he also defended himself when he was asked if he's to blame. >> i didn't do anything ever in my life that would lead me up to this moment. i'm an honorable man, i'm a proud man. >> are you -- >> i'm not going to answer questions on this level. i would rather get on the floor and be trampled by the parents. i'd rather let them tear at my flesh than answer these ridiculous questions. i'm so sorry. i'm incredibly sorry. what do you want me to say? i'm not going to answer these questions. >> i want to bring in glen corbett, an associate professor of fire science at the john jay college of criminal justice. thank you so much for joining us, glen. >> thank you. >> we've seen that video of the rescuers and searchers and investigators combing through wreckage. what can they find and learn from the remains? >> sure.
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well, they're going to basically as they've been doing methodically going through the building and locating the victims that are still in there at this point but more importantly to try to determine what was in the building at the time, how it was configured and, of course, any fire safety issues related to that we've heard quite a bit on the news in the last few days about the conditions inside the building so they'll try to reconstruct the building inside for all intense and purposes. >> we heard from the building manager, the person leasing out this building. surprised to hear him get in front of the cameras and take questions at this point? >> i am surprised he's talking at this point. obviously he was there, he apparently was the person who brought in the tenants and the folks who moved into the building as well as the people that were using it for party purposes so this is a code -- fire code and building code enforcement nightmare, this building. it has all sorts of issues. >> we heard the manager trying to deflect blame. who is to blame?
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the city if it is a code issue or would he be responsible if that case? >> ultimately the building owner and if he's the tenant in the building, both of those are ultimately responsible for what happened that day. that doesn't mean the city isn't responsible from an enforcement standpoint if they have gone there and didn't follow up on inspections they made so there's a lot of folks that have the part in this but it's the building owner and the tenant. >> how much trouble could they be in? is this something where it comes back that it was a co-violation that led to an electrical problem for some reason is that something that could result in jail time? people losing their jobs in the city? >> well, certainly there will be lawsuits here. civil lawsuits. as far as criminal litigation, we don't know whether that will happen or not. in our history in america we've had fires in nightclubs and other places where people have been held responsible and other places they haven't been. it's a patchwork of laws we have in the u.s. that sometimes you
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can apply them to situations like this, sometimes they don't apply so we'll have to see how this pans out over the next few weeks. >> thank you so much for joining us and helping us walk through the process. glen corbett, good to have you here. >> thank you. up next, the first fault lines between the gop and donald trump since his victory. hear why many republicans on the hill aren't happy with one of his latest proposals. plus, a white supremacist invited to speak at one of the country's largest universities tonight. the school responds live next.
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transfer. one gop lawmaker described this plan as a punitive measure. others, including speaker of the house paul ryan say a better plan would be comprehensive tax reform. let's discuss, shelby holiday, politics and business reporter for the "wall street journal" is joining us as well as a.b. stoddard, the associate editor and columnist with real clear politics. that's a mouthful. a.b., let me start with you. do you think this is a sign that now lines are being drawn in the sand between trump and some of the other gop establishment figures who have been maybe against some of the trump proposals all along? >> well, republican leaders heard his rhetoric about this during the primary campaign and the general election campaign. they're not surprised to see it coming but i guess they were hoping it would come later. they were put on the spot about it. he tweeted all sunday about slapping 35% tariffs on any company from the u.s. wanting to move their operations overseas and when asked about it, mike pence dodged the question three
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times in an interview and, you know, the house majority leader kevin mccarthy basically came out and said no, we're not for trade wars, we're for the free markets, that he wouldn't support a tariff like that. and when you heard the speaker talk about it, he's talking about a broad economic policy that involves tax reform so they're not going around company by company week by week making threats or cutting deals like the one they did with carrier. while it's a feel-good sugar-high symbolic accomplishment, it's picking winners and losers and cutting deals that could lead to companies sort of taking the government hostage looking for better deals before they threaten to leave our shores. that is not -- that goes up against everything conservatives stood for in their economic agenda for decades. >> and yet, shelby, we did hear kevin mccarthy say there needs to be something to level the playing field. what are the alternatives? are they suggesting something else? >> they have floated the idea of what's a consumption tax.
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it would level the playing field. it would not tax certain imports or companies has trump has proposed a deal. but they want to make clear and republicans have gotten good at poll tisching their responses to donald trump's comments instead of going after him saying this is an anti-capitalist idea, they say we understand his frustration but we think it would be better to let the free market decide. or we think it would be better to let our tax plan -- let businesses thrive and keep jobs in the u.s. so they've come up with this better way mantra and that's now how they're responding to donald trump. but if you read between the lines they're countering his ideas. >> let me pivot to obamacare. another potential rift we're seeing develop here and the timetable to repeal obamacare. paul ryan said it could take up to three years to come up with a replacement plan. that's not going over so well with the house freedom caucus. however, realistically, a.b., how can we expect this to unfold? >> well, i wrote about this today. i think it's a really foolish
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political gimmick on the part of the republicans. they've had six years to come up with a plan. donald trump has made conflicting statements and makes this challenge steeper and more difficult but the freedom caucus is basically saying if we're going to repeal it and we promised we would, we have to replace in the this next congress in the next two years. the proposal they're criticizing that's out there is to take a vote in january, in a few weeks, that repeals it and gives it a three-year expiration. it will technically expire three years from now so they can feel they're not taking anyone's insurance away. the problem is this will produce more chaos in a market already in a death spiral. etna and united health care have pulled out of the exchanges. the coverage is becoming thinner and more scant and deteriorating. the prices are skyrocketing. this will only cause more insurance companies to leave the market and leave the people who are covered who are mostly sick in real trouble. >> democrats are having issues as well internally. we know democratic leaders asked a couple of their senators, don't take jobs in the trump
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administration if you're offered. explain for us, shelby, why they don't want their own people inside trump's cabinet and having influence in some way. >> well, right now the democrats already have a minority. they have a 48-person minority. so you would think losing one seat wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, now we have representatives in the white house. we can have our voice heard in the trump administration however that's a huge blow to democratic leadership in the senate if either of these people take jobs with the trump administration. i just spoke to someone who worked for harry reid and his leadership when he was a senate leader. he said, you know, you want every single body. it matters, your negotiating power is stronger even if you have a minority, 48 is better than 47. the ironic thing, he says, is these are two senators being considered for trump jobs that would push the democratic party to negotiate with trump and to back some of trump's policies which are controversial in the democratic party.
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>> so much for bipartisanship, right? >> should you send them the white house or keep them in the senate? they want to keep them in the senate. >> a.b. stoddard and shelby holliday, thank you both for being here. up next, a white supremacist who saluted donald trump's victory speaking tonight at texas a&m. you'll hear from the man who responded to him and the school's response next. st usingg "#justrobbedthesafe" so, what are we supposed to think? switching to geico could save you a bunch of money on car insurance. excellent point. case dismissed. geico. because saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance woo! because saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance is always a great answer. as after a dvt blood clot,ital i sure had a lot to think about. what about the people i care about? ...including this little girl. and what if this happened again?
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>> we were not meant to beg for moral validation from some of the most despicable creatures to ever populate the planet. hail trump! hail our people! hail victory! >> remember this video? looks like something out of nazi germany. richard spencer gave this speech in washington last month as he promoted white supremacy. he praised president-elect trump while giving the nazi salute and now that same man will speak at texas a&m university tonight. he got the invite from a university alum, not the school. >> what do you think of richard spencer? >> i think he has some valid
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points. >> do you think this is a white nation? >> i think it was at one time and i think that the reaction of trump being elected and the reaction that's going on with the alt-right being popular is reaction to the declining of it being a white nation. >> so that's the guy who invited richard spencer to talk. joining me now, the school's senior vice president of communications amy smith and hannah wemberly, the student helping to organize a counterprotest. first to you, amy. the school is being blasted for allowing spencer to come and speak. what is your response to this criticism? >>. >> first, ana, thank you for allowing us to join you today. texas a&m, including staff and student groups had no part in this. this is an unsanctioned campus event. we have public rooms because we are a public university. private citizens can rent them, cub scouts, first robotics,
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other things and the administration was made aware on november 22 that he had rented a room for, in fact, this purpose and we were surprised and find the beliefs reprehensible. >> okay. hannah, the man who invited spencer, we heard a little bit from earlier, preston wigington makes no excuse about the way he feels. listen to what he gold gary tuchman about diversity. >> why would i want to be displaced and marginalized. only people with a pillnemental illness. >> you and people like you have a hangup about the color of people's skin. what's the difference what color people's skin are? what matters is the kind of people they are. so why does it matter pigment of their skin. >> it's not just pigment. >> what is it? >> people's behavior. people's iq. people evolve over different times and places. >> there are lots of white people with low iqs.
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there are lots of black people with high iqss. there are lots of red people with low iqs and high iqs. >> better the devil i know than the devil i don't. >> hannah, what's your reaction to what you just heard. >> i'm sickened. my experience here even at texas a&m we have a beautiful diverse campus and i think that should be cherished and loving your neighbor and getting to understand other's experiences and we may not know what it's like to live as someone that's other than us but we can try to understand and learn from their experiences and celebrate our diversity and join in university and see others as a foe. that sickens me. >> how do you feel about how the school has handled the situation? >> i'm proud we're going to be hosting an event called aggies united to fight this negative speech with this incredible positive act. we have faculty, staff,
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students, community members coming together to join and celebrate our unity, sell the beautiful diversity of this campus. say that hatred and bigotry has no place at texas a&m so i'm very proud of the way texas a&m students, faculty and staff have handled this. >> i would echo that, ana. >> let me ask, though. the question i have that is i get it free speech has to be protected that's not just important to the university but the'm zi. how -- also democracy. how do you keep these students safe? some of this is hate speech, is it not? >> well, we want our first and foremost to protect our students and the environment in which they are and as i said before this person had no invite for from my member of our campus at the same time our first amendment protects the right to free speech and we decided it protects the right to our free speech, too so we are going to
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gather with thousands of students, alumni and our whole network and the greater community in which we are tonight at our football stadium to celebrate our yoonty and what we stand for ain a productive ad peaceful way. >> amy smith, hannah wemberly, thank you. >> thank you. more on donald trump's announcement moments ago as he talked about bringing jobs to america, including tens of thousands coming here to the u.s. through a japanese company. we'll have more on who is behind it next.
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