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it is 6:00 eastern. you're live in the cnn newsroom. so glad you're with us. i'm poppy harlow. we begin with this just giraffe the super bowl kickoff. an interview with the president. trump discussing every executive action he signed taking office ub colluding his controversial travel ban a. >> another big week for the trump administration. but the refugee deal, not so much. >> i think it was very smooth.
you had 109 people out of hundreds of thousands of travelers and all we did was vet those people very, very carefully. >> you wouldn't do anything differently if you had to do it all over again? some people didn't know what the order was. >> general kelly who is now secretary kelly said he totally knew. he was aware of it and it was very smoth. it was 109 people. >> let's talk about iran. your assessment. do you think we're on a collision course with that country? >> i think it was the worst deal i have ever seen negotiated. it was a deal -- >> the nuclear deal. >> the deal that was made by the obama administration. it's a shame we have had a deal like that and we had to sign a deal like that and there was no reason to do it. we gave them $1.7 billion in cash, which is unheard of. and we put the money up. we have really nothing to show for it. >> possibly tear it up? >> we'll see what happens.
>> it's possible? >> i can can say this. they have total disregard for our country. they are the number one terrorist state. they are sending money all over the place and weapons. can't do that. >> sanctions. that's how you're going to start with them. >> just started. >> but you're moving a carrier. >> i never talk about military moves. i always criticized president obama with having an announcement they are going into mosul or some place. they give the name, the date, the time. >> so you're not real bull iishn iran at this point. >> i'm not bullish. they have total disrespect for our country. that deal i would have lived with it if they said, okay, we're all together now. but it was just the opposite. it's like they are emboldened. they follow our planes. they circle our ships with their little boats and they lost respect because they can't believe anybody could be so stupid as to make a deal like that. >> you talked to putin last
week. you had a busy week last week. >> busy week is and a half. >> do you respect putin? >> i do respect him. >> why? >> i respect a lot of people, but that doesn't mean i'm going to get along with him. he's a leader of his country. i say it's better to get along with russia than not. if russia helps us in the fight against isis, which is a major fight and islamic terrorism all over the world, major fight, that's a good thing. will i get along with him, i have no idea. >> he's a killer. putin is a killer. >> there's a lot of killers. you think our country is so innocent? you think our country is so innocent? >> i don't know of any government leaders that are killers. >> take u a look at what we have done too. made a lot of mistakes. i have been against the war in iraq from the beginning. >> mistakes are different. >> people were killed. a lot of killers around. believe me. >> let's talk about mexico. there was a report you talked to the president and told him this was the report, i want to know
if it's true or not. that if his army couldn't handle the drug cartels, that u.s. army soldiers would. did you say that? >> we have to do something about the cartels. i did talk to them about it. . he's a very good man. . we have a very good relationship, as you probably know. he seemed very willing to get help from us because he has got a problem and it's a real problem for us. don't forget those cartels are operating in our country. they are poisoning the youth of our country. >> at this point, do you consider mexico a corrupt country because this stuff has been going on for decades. >> i love the people. i really like this it administration. i think he's a good man. we get along very well. but they have problems controlling aspects of their country. there's no question about it. i would say the drugs and the drug cartels, number one. >> have you figured out what kind of tariff you're going to
levee on mexico to pay for the wall? >> it's very unfavorable. . woor losing our jobs to mexico. you look at the plants and i have to tell you i have turned it around already. you see that. ford has been phenomenal. they are. >> you intimidated them. they are afraid of you. >> you know these companies. >> they want to do what's right. >> why didn't they do what was right in the past? they are afraid of you. >> they are going to do what's right. they are bringing jobs back to michigan and pennsylvania and all the places that have lost their jobs. that's already happening. i think you're going to see a tremendous job growth in this country. >> we'll be watching those jobs numbers. let's talk about all this with my panel. josh rogan is with us and columnist for "the washington post." julian joins us as well, historian at princeton university. i guf you a pass for being on skype only because it is super
bowl sunday. so thank for joining before the big game. and josh, let me begin with you. the president's comments about russia and vladimir putin really make iing a clear moral e equivalence between putin's russia and the united states. those remarks today being criticized by some republicans including marco rubio, who tweetsed this. when has a political activist been poisoned by the gop. we are not the same as putin. this as a number of republicans stay quiet about the president's travel ban. do you think they see russia as a safe space where they can go after the president? >> i think republican lawmakers are in a tough position here. they know that trump is going to do some things and get behind the iran stuff. but this russia stuff is just a red line for them. this is a party that has been for decades standing up for the principle that u.s. values and u.s. interests are not the same as russian. >> american exceptionalism. >> and especially when it comes
to russia. the country we're in a cold war with for 50 years that oppresses the opposition, threatens our allies in europe. this is not small stuff. this is a big issue for republicans. now you have democrats who are piling on because of russian interference in the election and hacking of theedness. you're seeing a huge push for a a stronger policy. donald trump, like most presidents, wants to try to reset relations. that's fine. that's all well and good. but while he's doing that, what republicans are locking to make sure is he doesn't lose sight of the prize, which is standing up for american values and allies. >> one thing that the president tweeted today about this federal judge in washington who stayed his travel ban, he tweeted this. just cannot believe a judge would put our country in such peril. if something bad happens, blame him and the court system. people pouring in.
bad. you're a presidential historian. have we seen a sitting president attack a judge in this way. now he's saying if this country gets attacked, it's your fault. >> not like this. we have obviously had presidents critical of decisions that were made by courts and they have challenged the decisions and spoken about the decisions, but what's different is the tweet yesterday and the tweet today is really attacking the judge. first calling him a so-called judge questioning his legitimacy and today raise iing the argume that somehow he's responsible if something happens. so this is a different kind of political argument and attack than we have seen from other presidents. and it's troubling because this is that area of separation of power that many people are watching carefully to see if president trump responds. >> i would note, and josh, weigh in on thrks he's being defined
in terms-his language but he's not defying the court order. >> right. >> he's not telling his agencies, no, don't listen to the judge. >> there were reports. as of today, the department of homeland security has suspended all actions. so that's that. the problem here is that the trump white house is always in attack mode. and the president leads that attack at all times. they don't have any other style. and while that helps them a lot in the press, in a legal proceeding, that's risky because the things he says can come into play down the road. this is the first bat until a long war over this. and the president's words matter. >> i just wonder. the media got it wrong in the election in terms of who the pundits thought was going to win, what all the modelling showed and all the polling showed.
when i'm out in it the field, when i'm in kentucky, when i'm all over this country p trump supporters say, look, you're flipping out about what he's saying and this is the kind of language that we like to hear. we might not agree with every statement, but he just says it like he sees it. >> i think that's actually important. there's been a lot of talk about approval ratings for president trump being historically low. when you look at national approval ratings, there was one out yesterday or the day before. when you look at support among republicans, it's quite high. this is a president who sees a divided country and he doesn't want to unify the country. he wants to in some ways play to the divisions. some of what he does both his policies and his attitudes play very well with his supporters and frankly with had many republicans who other than a few issues have not said much. so there is a strategy behind the chaos. and i think that's where democrats shouldn't
underestimate how weak or strong that he is based on some of this polling. >> stay with me. thank you. still to come, we turn to issues in the united states. you'll hear more of the interview with president trump. a brand new interview. what he he said about repealing obamacare and exactly how long a replacement could take a a development next. you're live in the cnn newsroom. afoot and light-hearted i take to the open road. healthy, free, the world before me, the long brown path before me leading wherever i choose. the east and the west are mine. the north and the south are mine. all seems beautiful to me.
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california even though it's considering being a sanctuary state. here's more of his interview on fox with bill o'reilly. >> let's turn to domestic policy. i just spent the week in california. as you know, they are now voting on whether they should become a sanction ware state. so california and the usa are on a collision course. how do you see it? >> it's ridiculous, sanctuary cities, as you know, i'm opposed to sanction ware cities. they breed crime. if we have to, we'll defund. we give tremendous amounts of money to california. voters agree. >> defunding is your weapon of choice? >> it's a weapon. i don't want to defund the city. i don't want to defund anybody. i want to give them the money they need to properly operate as a city or a state. if they are going to have
sanction ware stirks we may have to do that. >> is there any valid dity to t criticism of you that you say things you can't back up factually. and as the president if you say there are 3 million illegal aliens who voted and you don't have the data to back it up, some say that's irresponsible for a president to say that. is there any validity? >> some people said i'm right. . it doesn't have to do with the vote. it it has to do with the registration. and when you look at the registration and see dead people that have voted, when you see people that are registered in two states that voted in two states, when you see other things, when you see illegals, people that are not citizens and they are on the registration, we can be babies. but you take a look at the registration. you have illegals, dead people, it's really a bad situation. it's really bad.
>> so you think you're going to be proven correct? >> i think i already have. >> but the data has to show that 3 million illegals vote d. >> forget all of that. just take a look at the registration. we're going to do it. i'm going to set up a commission to be head ed by vice president mike pence. we're going to welcome at it very carefully. >> that's good. let's get to the bottom of this. 2017, can americans expect a tax cut? >> i think so, yes. i think before the end of the year, i would like to say e yes. >> can americans in 2017 expect a new health care plan rolled out by the trump administration? this year? >> in it the process and maybe it will take until some time into next year, but we are going to be in the process. very complicated. obamacare is a disaster. you have to remember, bobamacar doesn't work. we are putting in a wonderful plan. it's stachtorial it takes awhile to get. we're putting it in fairly soon. i think that, yes, i would like to say by the end of the year,
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before the break, we heard the president's latest interview. he talked about a lot including obamacare, sanctuary cities and tax cuts. let's discuss with ben stein. also hfs a speech writer for presidents nixon and ford. nice to have you on. >> my pleasure. >> the president said he thinks, yes, there will be a tax cut by the end of 2017. he's promised to do this, ben, as you know in a deficit neutral way. how is he going to make that happen? >> well, he can't make it happen. >> you're supposed to say here's how. >> here's how. he can't make it happen. there's no way he can make it. happen. we're already running gigantic deficits. there's no way to make those deficits smaller. he says he's not going to increase the deficit. if he's going to cut taxes, he would have to cut spending fantastically and he can't. >> no, no, no. the economy is going to grow 4 to 5%. >> that can't happen either. this is just fantasy land.
i like trump. he's a very amusing and engaging fellow. i like that he tries to keep his promises, but we cant even remotely be sure that the economy will grow. >> the economy did grow that much in the early '90s. he's saying i'm getting all these companies to keep jobs here. the stock market is at a record high. is it totally out of the question to see growth like that? >> yes, it's totally out of the question. you're talking about a growth rate roughly 1.9%. you're talking about more than doubling the growth rate. that would be almost impossible. as for the stock market, it has nothing to do with how big the economy grows. as to the jobs he saved, they are a tiny handful in a labor force over 100 million he saved a few thousand. it's a joke to say he can do this in a revenue neutral world. it's a joke to say he can make the economy grow at 5%. it might grow, it's possible. it won't be because of anything
trump did. let's hope it does, but it won't be because of anything trump did. he's got a gorgeous house down there in florida. i just don't think he can make it happen. i'm sorry. i wish he could. >> but he is seeming to believe the bureau of labor statistics numbers on the jobs reports. california is considering whether or not, as you know, your state, whether it can become a sanctuary state. this is something the president opposes. e he has threatened to pull funding from the state. what's your reaction? >> he can't possibly pull funding. the state would go broke without it. the state of california is actiact ing illegally. the state of california is not in charge of immigration status. that's clearly unequivocally a federal government subject under the constitution. governor brown cannot just make up law. he's not god. he is not james madison.
he can't make it up. >> an executive order sign ed b the president on friday that i don't think is getting its due attention. this is saying, hey, we as an administration are going to chip away at dodd-frank, at the financial reform put in place after the crisis to put a check on wall street. what's interesting is you would expect this from a republican president following president obama. what's interesting is that this is coming from the guy who ran on an anti-wall street, i'm for the little guy platform. how do you square the two? >> if you believe that it either candidate, either clinton or trump was really going to go against the wishes of goldman sachs, you're ready to believe quite a lot and sell your bridge connecting. nobody goes against wall street. there's too much money there. nobody goes against it. >> then why did dodd-frank pass? >> that's a very good question. because at that point we had a
red hot bunch of people in congress who were revved up about it. it was before obama had learned where the real power lay. and by the way, he was pretty good on this subject. dodd-frank has been a mistake because it has definitely, as trump said, crippled lending. in terms of generally wanting to have a check on investment banks on wall street, we want -- that was a different america. >> you're saying this matters a lot for everyone. it matters a lot for main street and small businesses. this lend iing and not feeling choked off from being able to get the money you need to run your businesses. what would make dodd-frank better then? a lot of folks would say you don't want to repeal the consumer financial protection bureau. that's something his tissue ri secretary wants to see stick around. but you do want to increase the lending, especially for small businesses from these smaller community banks. what makes dodd-frank better for more people?
>> dodd-frank is not necessarily better for more people. what we need is a more detailed case by case analysis of lending. dodd-frank lays down blanket restrictions. they don't affect ford motor or general motors, but for small businesses, they are blanket restrictions. we need to get case by case what you might say extreme vetting of borrowers so we don't have a giant blanket choke iing them o. case by case analysis, higher a few more people to go over loan by loan. >> ben stein, nice to have you on. thank you. >> always a pleasure. before we go to break, i want to will the you know about something new we're working on. boss files, i sit down with successful ceos around the world and ask about their successes and where they failed most. we dive into the critical issue of america's growing income gap and solutions to it. it kicks off february 16th.
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criticism and get your reaction. this is not just the two senators you heard from. the senate phone system was so swamped with calls opposing devos this past week it almost crashed. a concern for some is is that she would be the first person to head this department in its more than 35-year history who is not either attended a a public school or sent her own children to them. what do you say to those who say she preaches escape from public schools instead of understanding them and working to improve them? >> first of all, i do understand the high realm of betsy's nomination. she was appoint ed but presiden trump, who really has been the most polarizing figure we have had in politics in many years. so much of this is is about him. but with respect to the specific criticism, i think what's most important, and unfortunately that's been lost in the hype around her nomination, is having a secretary of education who cares about kids, cares about parent empowerment and is a consensus builder. there are some terrific public
schools, but one of the most tragic things about the demonization of devos is she wants to privatize public education. >> they look at michigan as an example. >> let me tell you about michigan. first of all, you have 40 years of bad policies and bad leadership in the state. in fact, several years ago 80% of the black and white boys in detroit were dropping out of cool. you can't hang that on the head of one person. so betsy supportered charter schools, choice initiative and also supported accountability measures so much so that once it was passed over 100 charter schools did close. so i think there's been a whole lot of this hype really promoted by the status quo. >> so let's play some of the concern can from some of the senators during her confirmation
hearings. rising student loan debt, this a huge issue facing a lot of families. listen to this exchange between betsy devos and elizabeth warren. >> mrs. devos, have you ever taken out a student loan to pay for college? >> i have not. >> have any of your children had to borrow money in order to go to college? >> they have been fortunate not to. >> have you had any personal experience with the pell grant? >> not personal experience, but certainly friends and students with whom i have worked. >> so you have no personal experience with college financial aid or management of higher education. >> okay, and obviously she comes from a very wealthy family. no one should hold that against her. she hasn't had had to take loans. but she also would be one of the few secretaries without any experience being a teacher or running a school system. does that concern you at all? >> no, and let me tell you why. so much of this -- the senators
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the stay on president trump's travel ban prehaven'ting those from seven muslim majority countries from entering the united states is still in place for now. early this morning the justice department asked a federal appeals court to reinstate that it ban. let's talk about where this fight goes from here. rory little of the hastings college of law and legal analyst. thank you tr being here. professor, let me begin with you. we're talking about two states that brought this originally. washington and minnesota. this ban will do irreparable damage to their citizens. here's what the administration says in their emergency motion. quote, courts are particularly ill equipped to second guess the president's perspective judgment
about future risks. unlike the president, courts do not have access to classified information about the threat posed by terrorist organizations operating in particular nations. how strong is that argument. they say the courts you don't have the classified information the president has so you can't make this call. >> i think there's two problems with it. it's not a bad argument. but first of all, the court below did not make any second guess iing about risks of terrorism. that court simply said there's other claims here that i need to think about. and second, why there's ir republic rabble harm to the government for a four-day stay is sort of unclear. >> how do you see it, danny? >> in this case, the lower courts opinion is really does not have a lot of discussion about the merits of the plaintiffs arguments. it more recites the standard for temporary restraining order and
concludes there's irreparable harm. it really can can go either way. >> this will very likely go to the supreme court and what they will be looking at in the law here is first of all on immigration, which gives the president wide discretion when it comes immigration. they have to look at the part at the establishment clause and the u.s. law that states you cannot discriminate who can't come into the country base ued on their nation of origin. >> that's absolutely right. this is just a stay. in other words, the merits are still with the court in seattle and a number of other courts around the country. the court of appeals is going to be looking at should we allow a stay to be in place while that process is unfolding. the supreme court right now is very likely divided 4-4. which means the circuit court opinion is probably the most important moment. >> how does this complicate
things for the judge who will be facing these hearings. he's going to be asked about this. >> it complicates things because this is going to be a major question. . it has the potential as the professor mentioned with the 4-4 split of if there's a 4-4 split the lower court appellate ruling stands. . if you have such a big circuit split then you have a bit of a constitutional crisis. . this will be a critical question for the nominated justice to be. >> gentlemen, thank you very much. i have a feeling i'm going to be seeing a lot more of you on our air in the days to come. we appreciate it. much more for us ahead after the break. first we have this week's before the bell. >> investors are watching to see if the trump rally picks up this week. stocks rose on friday after a strong jobs report coupled with president trump's plan to cut taxes and regulation.
now tax reform is really key here that something that wall street is eagerly awaiting. you saw stocks tumble early last week when the top moved off the front burner. as far as this week is concerned, look for corporate earnings. that's going to help set the tone. general motors, disney, twitter among the companies reporting. we are about half way through the earnings season and the results have been pretty decent. so far 65% of the s&p 500 companies have actually beaten profit estimates and 52% have topped sales estimates. the current quarter could be a real test. the markets are anticipating double digit earnings growth for the first quarter of 2017. >> thank you. you'll be on top of all of it for us this week i know. we have much more ahead for it us live in the cnn newsroom. stay with us. back in a moment.
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flint, michigan. >> reporter: many people may have forgotten about the flint lead crisis. but for diane, her family is a reminder. >> they're severely impaired and they're being retaught all these things now. gavin's not growing properly. he's 39 pounds and almost 6 years old. >> reporter: there's not only the physical and developmental effects, there's also an emotional toll. >> it clicks in their head, okay, we were poisoned, are we going to die? >> reporter: the health and development fund focuses on the short and long-term needs of the city's children expose to lead. >> we have committed to raising money over the next 10 to 20 years to follow these children
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with breaking news this hour, just in to us at cnn. good evening, everyone. we want to welcome our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i am poppy harlow joining you live from paris with our special coverage of the terror attacks that triggered a state of emergency throughout this country. hello, everyone, i'm poppy harlow, joining you live from paris tonight, it is 9:00 in the evening, we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. we begin tonight in brussels, it is a city on lockdown, because of the, quote, serious and imminent possibility of a paris style terror attack. >> welcome to our breaking news coverage of what has become an epic storm up and down the eastern seaboard. i'm poppy harlow joining you live from new york city. >> you call gang involvement the lethal axis of hope. >> yeah. >> what is that?
>> not all choices are created equal. >> one in five american children now rely on food stamps. your kids are among them? >> yes, food stamps is very helpful right now. it's a necessity. being a woman with four kids, you have to be strong. >> how can the city turn around if that doesn't get fixed fast? and the people of flint today here, can you drink the water? now the company has increased maternity leave from 12 weeks to 18 weeks paid for mothers and fathers get up to 12 weeks paid. i usually don't have a drink before 9:00. usually after 9:00. the light of my 2016, not only my awesome husband, but our little nugget, sienna. hey, baby! wow. thank you, guys. what i love about this show is
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