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champion patriots teammates later this year. not everybody on board as more sports people take issue with the president. will fans listen for tune them out. and kellyanne conway says this about her boss. >> all i can say to america's women, you should be so lucky to have a boss treat me as well as president of the united states treated me today. >> is that really what every woman wants? are things rosy in the white house? get to sports stars at odds with president trump. cnn's reporting. >> reporter: first few weeks in office inspires a new wave of athlete activism, lebron james, misty copland, fencer mohammed speaking out against president trump's policies. chris long and legarrette blount
joining players passing on white house meeting with the president and their team later this year. >> i won't be going to the white house. >> will not? no? >> i will not. >> do you want to expound on that? >> just so many things that i just don't feel welcome into that house. going to leave it at that. >> patriots player martellus bennett also a no-show after the patriots' victory said won't attend because the president has what he called too many prejudices. >> i'm not going to go. it is what it is. people don't know how i feel about it. follow me on twitter. >> he followed hillary clinton and criticized the travel ban days after it was signed. tweeting america was built on inclusiveness, not exclusiveness. leadership is firmly team trump.
kraft, belichick and brady all say friends with trump. make america great cap in brady's locker and while he visited white house in bush years, he skipped in obama administration citing family commitment. cnn has reached out to patriots and white house for comment and has yet to receive a response. sports analyst christine brenn en is more athletes will come forward. >> i sense more athletes speaking out and fans supporting them and thanking them for it. >> already on the record a number of former and current nba players criticizing the immigration restrictions. >> i think it's [ bleep ]. i think it's actually [ bleep ]. our country is home of the free.
for that to happen i think is [ bleep ]. >> and when under armour ceo kevin planck praised pro-business approach calling him asset to the country. steph curry said i agree with that description if you remain the et from asset. not the first time taken political stance. olympics in mexico city, raising fists to support civil rights. and just last season colin kaepernick refusing to stand during the national anthem in the name of racial injustice. now other athletes standing up to challenge the white house. jason carroll, cnn. >> great report. rachel nichols, host of "the jump" on cnn. great to see you. >> thank you. >> and dante stallworth is here.
thanks for joining us. fascinating to me. wanting to talk to you about it. as former patriot what do you think of the players saying won't go to the white house? >> i've always been advocate for players to speak out on ins. funny thing is people say that athletes and actors should not engage in polit igs. donald trump was a reality tv star, ronald reagan an actor, al franken on "snl." these guys should be leading political example. these are people that are role models. and if you look at lot of these athletes, have grown up in these types of neighborhoods where they -- they've come from the bottom. so they relate more to the average person than some of the politicians sponsored by
corporations and have a lot of money. at end of the day, when you look at it, martellus bennett is writing a children's book on how to be a good child. look at what donald trump has done in his books, to me there's no comparison. can't say athletes shouldn't engage in politics. >> and also donte, they're putting endorsements on the line which will carry them on to retirement long after whatever sport that money is gone. this is important to them. i want to play this for you. because the president is fond of name dropping his support from the patriots top brass. listen to this. >> tom brady -- great guy. great guy. great guy, great friend of mine. great, great champion, unbelievable winner. he called today and he said,
donald, i support you, you're my friend. and i voted for you. this guy is a true champ. so he writes, coach belichick, congratulations on a tremendous campaign. you have dealt with an unbelievable slanted and negative media and have come out beautifully. beautifully. you've proved to be the ultimate competitor and fighter, your leadership is amazing. bob kraft, good luck bob. your friend tom just called. he feels good. he called to congratulate us. he feels good. good luck. you're going to do great. >> do you think that puts other players in a tough position with their team closely associated with the president, even having dinner at mar-a-largo, bob kraft
the owner? >> i don't think so, i think mr. kraft respects his players on individual level. i have a good relationship with mr. kraft to this day even though haven't played for patriots since 2012. but if you look at it, players will do their own thing anyway and especially with what the trump administration has done since their first three weeks in office. players will double down if mr. kraft tries to do that. i don't think he would. why would the players leave their conscience at edge of the stadium? >> interesting. rachel bring you in. talk about the nba. steph curry and lebron james making it clear they do not support this president's policies. why is the travel ban such a big sish for the nba and players? >> it struck a nerve because nba is international league.
players from more than 200 countries playing in the nba. 30% of the players born outside of the u.s. and toronto raptors, you have to cross the border back and forth to get there. two prominent players have sudanese passports. could they go away and come back? affecting people on the court on day-to-day basis. also the freedom that the nba players have now too. endorsements. nooikal jordan was reported to have said, republicans buy sneakers too, not that politically active. he was employee of nike. steph curry is investor in under armour and had a cute quippy quote but called company and spent hours on the phone with them making sure their values
aligned enough with his he could stay on as brand endorser and ambassador. steph curry is playing on about to sign $200 billion plus contract. buys you freedom to speak your mind. don't have to worry where the next dollar is coming from. >> and what many people are getting wrong, looking at as republican versus democrat or conservative versus liberal. this is about values and some of the -- rhetoric that donald trump displayed on the campaign trail and now with the travel ban. with that said, let me say this, dallas mavericks owner mark cuban has made a number of public comments, most recently he doesn't think trump will last four years in office and gregg popovich of the spurs said it's hard to be respectful of someone
who we have kids and watching him be misogynistic and racist and xenophobic and making fun of handicapped people. if children would have said that, grounded them for months but we ignore this and -- to my point, both teams in red state texas. is it surprising to hear forceful comments from the sports world rachel? >> really is interesting. gregg popovich has been so outspoken. that quote was remarkable. he does operate in a red state world. he joked i get looks in the grocery store now. definitely don't approve of what i'm saying. but this guy went to the air force academy, served, and currently head coach of the men's basketball team for u.s.
olympics. bona fides are real and has a legit place to comment on society. and particularly in red state texas there are different voices. and what donte was saying about athletes having a role, whether we like it or not, sports, athletics, these are the places where republicans and democrats come together. not reading the same newspapers or watching same tv or going to the same movies, we are still watching the same sports. when these discussions happen in the sports arena, it is so important, it's one of the only places we're all still talking to each other. >> i completely agree. donte you saw tommy smith & john carlos raising fists. and mohammed ali when he refused to go to vietnam.
>> my conscience won't let me go shoot my brother, darker people, hungry people in the mud for powerful america. shoot them for what? they never called me n -- set dogs on me. robbed me of nationality, raped or killed my mother or father? shoot them for what? >> you my -- when i want equality. you won't stand up for me in america for religious believes and want me to go somewhere and fight and won't stand up for me at home. >> experienced serious backlash but redeemed by history. mohammed ali is revered right? do you expect backlash? >> mohammed ali was a great example. resisted war in vietnam, going into the draft while a lot of these senators paid for -- funded the war. and mohammed ali now as you said
is looked upon in history as someone who made the right decision and useless war where over a million vietnamese people were killed, over 50,000 americans were killed, a useless war that did nothing and mohammed ali in the end as history shows us today was the right one, not the politicians. stop saying that players and actors shouldn't engage in politics. perfect example right there. >> and you said we're not all reading same newspapers or watching same programs but if you remember when john stewart was on the "daily show" a lot of kwung people saed got their news from the show. and i wonder with sports, not big news consumers but getting views of the administration through the sports heroes.
>> absolutely. charles barkley said a couple of decades ago, i'm not a role model. that idea has passed everyone by. there is no question these guys are role models and they're embracing their responsibility to present themselves and ideas in more serious manner in way that influences the young people who follow them. they understand the responsibility they have, and the voice that they have. talking all summer about police violence and the killings going on among young african-american men, most visible african-american men in our society are basketball and football players. they are the ones with the most platform to cot out and say this is worth pay ago engs to. and i think they'll continue. >> and those watching, before you criticize people didn't want to go see barack obama in the
white house, athletes as well. >> mentioned that tom brady declined to go. >> and matt murburke and explicy cited political reasons not going. that's within his rights. makes us stronger. this is a free society. free speech makes us stronger. we need that. >> i love this conversation. thank you guys. have a great weekend. rachel come back. >> rachel. >> absolutely. miss you guys. >> miss you too. coming back, who is real power behind the scenes at white house and is the president unhappy with somebody in his inner circle? istake? or the irs sends you a letter? forget the computer. go with a jackson hewitt tax pro.
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the president wrapping up what certainly could be called a difficult week for his administration, especial a a ruling by the federal appeals court which keeps his travel ban on hold. here to discuss, bill press, and john fredericks. both gluttons for punishment, keep coming back week after week. thanks for coming on. john, the first few weeks have been -- can call it a whirlwind, how do you think he's doing? >> policy-wise, he doing fantastic, exactly what he said he was going to do, fired up his base. people that voted for him couldn't have gotten anything better. he's doing exactly what he said he was going to do.
defining this president. he came to washington, he's the rain maker, disrupter, going to change washington, break the glass, do things differently. people wanted a change, wanted a different washington, they wanted somebody to come in and peel back the onion, tell them the truth and what was going on, he's certainly done that. got to take the good with the bad. some is bad, collateral political damage, no question about it. friendly fire in order to get the kind of change that donald trump is trying to do. but the thing is he's telling the truth to the american people. telling them the truth, what is going on. and in 2018 he's going to reap the benefit of that. >> all right. did you bring your pom-poms with you john. jeez. >> i'm fired up tonight. >> yeah you are. >> are we living on the same planet? come on. this is absurd. first of all, donald trump
hasn't accomplished anything. hasn't built the wall or get it started. didn't repeal obamacare on day one which he promised. be fair. it was little rocky when bill clinton got started. nobody walks in and does it that smoothly. but last three weeks for donald trump have been a disaster. lost threes rounds in the court. generated biggest protest since the vietnam war. president of mexico canceled a visit. president of china won't talk to him. two of his people accused of perhaps break the law. what more can go wrong in three weeks? shows they're not ready for prime time. the whole gang. >> you guys, it's so weird that people have such different perspectives on this.
it's just fascinating to me. john to bill's point, hundreds of protesters, upset at town hall by jason chaffetz last night, forcing him to end 45 minutes early. listen to retired teacher from utah. >> i'm retired teacher and taught for years in salt lake and rarely had a discipline problem because i laid out expectations clearly and the consequences but once in a while at beginning of the year after two or three weeks look at kid and think you're going to be a problem. it's been two or three weeks. [ cheers and applause ] >> i want you to know what i would do is draw a line in the sand at beginning of the year and say cross this line and this is the consequence. for the president of the united states, the consequence is
impeachment. >> so in the second part of this, she's saying, considering how she feels about what he's done so far, she thinks consequence is impeachment. also saying as school teacher after two or three weeks when she has a kid that's going to be a problem, saying this s a problem. republican district in a red state, should you and he be worried that sentiment is beginning to grow? >> he is going to be a problem for liberals and the left and mainstream media that doesn't understand why he won. >> this is not the question. this is a red district -- >> utah. >> don and bill, every district in america has democrats in it. every single one. my district, district four in
virginia, represented by don mckeem m mckeech um, probably one of the most liberal congressmen in america. trump got 41% of my district. but trump should wear these protesters like badge of honor. great thing. reason he's fired up democratic base and liberal -- progressives and got them to come out and protest because he's making change like no one has ever seen. if the protesters stop don, that's when i would get worried. >> it's not all liberal protesters out there. and it seems like you're saying the protesters when it's tea party on the right legitimate but what you consider as liberals on the left, protesters are not legitimate. how do you -- >> i never said. >> how do you make that judgment. >> i never said weren't legitimate. >> you said liberals in every
single district. the tea party protesters were conservatives concerned about obama's policies. progressive protesters are very unhappy i with trump's policies. >> making my point. >> actually doing something. >> first of all, repeat this is utah, reddest of the red states. other thing about the town halls, got to tell you, i wrote a book about the obama hate machine, the tea party town halls were banked on the planned and orchestrated by the koch brothers and their organization. these are organic grassroots people turning out because pissed off already. saw with the women's march and people turning up in the airports and as lefty, these are not planned by anybody. people coming out on their own. energy and movement that donald
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back now with radio guys. bill press and john fredericks, having a quiet conversation about the protests happening around the country. but john, do you disagree -- bill said this is organic, it's not -- >> yes. >> not like the tea party, paid for by the koch brothers. >> some of them might be paid, i don't know what the numbers are. >> duget out of here. >> bill that's not the point. organic nature of the protests going on around america is real, fabulous encourage it. keep coming out and speaking what is on their mind. day the protest stop is when i
get concerned about the trump agenda. don't like what trump is doing because he's disrupter and rain maker of washington that's going to get the kind of change that people never thought would happen. that's going to come with protest and change, disruption. not going to be able to get this level of differences he's trying to do without a very formidable resistance. i applaud what they're doing. keep coming out and speaking their mind. at end of the day if trump is able to create jobs, get out of these wars, create economic prosperity, stop illegal immigration taking jobs away, put people back to work, money in your pocket, going to win and get reelected. >> assure you, the protests are not going to stop you. thanks for encouragement. we don't need your
encouragement. going to continue four years. donald trump learned a lesson this week. lesson is black robes matter. love that donald trump said we're going to see you in court. damn right going to see him in court. thank god for founding fathers and separation of powers, created this judiciary branch to keep the president in check. already seen in the first few weeks president totally out of bounds with the constitution and american law, not to mention morality, and judges stood up and best that donald trump can do is call them so-called judges. that's where the battle will be. can't count on the congress to stop it. protests will help but real strength from the judicial system. >> i know you want to respond to that. john you said the protests have been happening because of what the president hatsds done,
getting things done. biggest one of all happened day after the inauguration when he hadn't done anything yet. >> still hasn't done anything. >> didn't like the outcome of the election. >> accomplished one thing? >> you're saying executive orders and not been -- resulted in legislation. >> been in office three weeks. give him a chance for legislative agenda. that's why priebus is there, if can't get it through congress going to get fired. over/under on him is ten months. >> said going to repeal obamacare on day one, where is it? >> republicans couldn't come up with replacement. said you had all this time, you don't have one, i'll bet my own. figuring that out. but cry baby democratic caucus with the protesters before he's even done anything, mad over the election outcome. but i encourage that. get to the judicial end of it.
liberal activist left-wing judges making legislative policy from the bench. >> who is the ninth circuit? >> through the american people. >> talking about -- >> most liberal court. shop right court. >> republican judge -- >> some appointed by republican presidents. >> george w. bush appointee james robart in seattle, is that the left-wing liberal you're talking about? you don't know what you're talking about dudes. >> did you just call me -- >> i've got to go. thank you guys. see you next week hopefully. coming back, turmoil in donald trump's inner circle is somebody about to get thrown under the bus? and checking your score won't hurt your credit. oh! i'm so proud of you. well thank you.
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and alice stewart and angela ry. one dude here. i don't know if you heard that comment earlier, someone called a dude on the air. pretty funny. >> i'm been called a lot worse. >> right on this show too. >> bill press saying dude, that was unique. >> awesome. >> i thought the black robes matter was clever too. so did my mom. >> black lives still do matter though, in case there's question. >> along with blue lives. >> before we go down this rabbit hole. talk about the troubles in the white house. kellyanne conway taking a lot of heat for hawking ivanka trump's clothing line on fox. ranking members of the oversight committee, jason chaffetz and cummings sent a letter, we
request you use authority congress granted to you under the ethics in government act of 1978 as amended to recommend to the head of the officer's or employer's agency that appropriate disciplinary action like reprimand, suspension, demotion or dismissal be brought against the officer or employee. how bad is it? >> it's bad. kellyanne conway broke the law. angela said earlier on cnn giving a qvc commercial. fox news. this is larger issue with trump administration and their people. don't know the rules and dead set on amending the process but don't know the process. can't break the rules unless you know them and can't bend them to figure out what works for you. this is administration going through issues and they're not above the law.
saw with the ruling in the muslim ban case and with this letter from ranking member and leader of the house oversight committee. these are not things the trump administration can do and get away with and learning that harshly if i might act. >> do you think there should or will be disciplinary action? >> i think what sean spicer said in the press statement the other day that she had been counseled, i think that's -- i think the left loses credibility going after nonstories like this. i watched this live. it was throw away line. i understand in washington, particularly trump got to be held to higher standard than anybody on earth. but throwaway comment and left have to go after --
>> it's not the left. it's the -- >> as a former hill staffer, congressman i know you know this, surprised by your answer. expecting to be a moment of bipartisan agreement for us. >> picking on my girl kellyanne conway. >> i love her personally but as attorney she should also know better. on the hill, house side in particular, there's committee on ethics. rules that members of the house and their staff have to abide by. distinction here is kellyanne has a law that applies to her as member of the executive branch staff and doesn't apply to donald trump. one of the things i would like to see congressman chaffetz and cummings do, ensure these same laws apply to the president. that's the biggest problem. you have staffers who worked on the campaign and think can be
teflon don like him and say rules don't apply. >> -- >> before you respond, play this moment and look at it and analyze it properly and then talk. >> go by ivanka's stuff. going to get some myself today. it's wonderful line, i own some of it. i fully -- going to give a free commercial here today everybody. go buy it. you can find it online. >> it's important to look at entire clip in its context. we all know kellyanne, she's a serious hard-nosed employee and loyal to the president. he was asked a question about nordstrom and answered in a serious matt manner and then gave a response lightheartedly as a joke and that's how it came across to me. those making a big deal are
barking un the wrong tree. as to whether or not face disciplinary action, "washington post" just released a story she's hired her own chief staff. hardly the action president is going to give to -- allow own chief of the staff. >> and up to the president. we all know kellyanne conway, some of us longer than others. alice for a decade, jack. she is a professional. whether you like what she says or how she does it, good at her job and responsive to the media. but whole other thing when you're leader and representing leader of the free world and rules in place, should be abiding by them and maybe a throwaway like but question is should she have known better? >> but i don't think -- format was "fox and friends"
lighthearted morning show. don't get into -- >> jack. don't make me throw something against the camera. >> why is the bar so low for donald trump. >> no one is attacking kellyanne conway. all just said nice things about her. simply analyzing actions of senior adviser to the president of the united states on a show considered a news program on a news network. >> ask the ladies since i'm the only dude, did any of you run out and buy the clothes based on that ad? >> that's not the point. >> we have to take a break. we'll be right back. and one snack box. can i keep the walnuts? yes. but i get to pick your movie. can i pick the genre? nope. with the blue cash everyday card you get cash back on purchases with no annual fee. backed by the service and security of american express.
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>> look. donald trump. let's not forget this is the same man that bragged about being able to -- grab her by the passy. this is the same man that started his campaign disparaging mexicans to black people to the disabled community. i don't want a boss like donald trump and kellyanne knows better. she is not going to spin me on this. this is malarkey. getting back to the topic that we were talking about with regard to kellyanne in the
situation happening this week, i think what she said painted a good light on what we heard a lot about donald trump with regard to loyalty. he wrote about it in one of the books. if you are good to to him, he is good to you. he pays those who are loyal to him. kellyanne was under fire during a difficult time, it was refreshing to hear the president of the united states was gracious to her. that's good to hear. >> it's interesting that he pays dividends. what a great choice of words for someone who failed to distance himself from his business interest. that's what she was hoping for. >> that's a good come back, but -- >> that was angela. >> approximate are sorry. >> you got us confused? all black people don't look alike? >> i couldn't even see you.
>> that's the progress in the green room. >> there is three voices and then yours and mine. >> that would be the duty on the show. >> i think frankly it is refreshing in washington, d.c. for a political boss not to do the political thing that would have been to suspend her and make her the sacrificial lamb of the day so that he could continue his career and try to pretend to be above the fray. he stood up for the employee and that is admirable and maybe he changed. that may be a good thing. >> we are reaching now. >> that was a tender moment. >> like donald trump is this beacon of greatness and he abided by the law. this is somebody who doesn't even know the rules. that didn't really happen. how is he going to reprimand
kellyanne? >> when someone does the slightest thing, they cut and run and turn his back on them and takes his own shelter and that's what so many others would have done. he stood up for her and it's a good thing. you know what, speaking of women, i don't understand why she is not a better icon for all women. >> hold on now. all right now, congressman. where is the sisterly love that kellyanne should be getting. she is the only woman -- >> i look at kellyanne at someone who is strong and competent in whatever job she does. she happens to be a woman. that is a part of who she is.
that is inspiring to many. it's a good thing. >> kellyanne is very good at what she does. she is competent and capable. if she was a man, we wouldn't have to use those words. as a spokesperson, she is not holding the bar high. that is dangerous. her credibility has been challenge and she lied on air to journalists and to the american people. >> she has not lied to anybody. >> hold on, dude. they said she has not lied. >> the important thing to note is kellyanne has made a gross mistake and a good leader would challenge the person to say you should retract that and that is it. we made it a dig deal. thank you all. have a great weekend. that's it for us.
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