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you're live in the cnn newsroom, thank you for spending some time with me, at this hour, president trump is on his way back to washington after a weekend in florida where he was hit with the first big international test of his presidency, north korea, test firing a ballistic missile that traveled about 300 miles before crashing into the sea of japan. now this news broke while the president was hosting the japanese prime minister at his mar-a-lago estate in palm beach. so far what we have learned from the president and what he has come out and said on the reported about all this, is simply this 25-word statement. >> i just want everybody to understand and fully know that the united states of america stands behind japan, it's great ally, 100%. thank you. >> i want to bring in cnn global affairs correspondent elise
labbot. is president trump expected to handle this in a different way than president obama would have? >> reporter: he's going to have to. the obama administration exercised what they called strategic patience, which means don't negotiate with north korea and keep applying pressure until they agree to give up their nuclear program. but eight years later, you have only seen a series of north korean nuclear tests, a barrage of missile tests and a lot of experts and critics say they delayed themselves into a much bigger north korean missile threat. so i do think that president trump specifically is going to be looking to put more pressure on the chinese government. he's made the issue of north korea something that he wants to negotiate as part of, you know, a larger deal with china and maybe would be willing to give china a little bit of something if they would just put more pressure on north korea, because
clearly as their biggest benefactor and their ally in the region, china has much for influence. i think that's something else you're going to see, a u.s. stepup in the area, you heard from james mattis, the defense secretary who was that last week, and you saw the white house policy adviser steven miller saying that the u.s. is going to ramp up its capabilities. so you'll see a bit of a tougher approach. the administration is going to be faced with the question of what it's going to negotiate with north korea to try and ease those nuclear and missile threats or it's willing to take some action to curb it, anna. >> all right, elise labbot, and now the director of international affairs and on george w. bush's national security council.
victor, good to have you with us, the entirety of the president's statement was just that the u.s. stands behind japan 100%, does it surprise you that he didn't directly send a message to north korea or even mention south korea in that statement? >> not really, i think that this was a desire not to overreact to this north korean missile test, they did not test the icbm. i would imagine that we will see more statements and actions to come over the week, from the administration. and so in that sense, i wasn't entirely surprised that the initial reaction was a bit understated. >> of course, this launch took place while japan's prime minister was spending the weekend with president trump here in the united states. how did the launch change the discussion between the two leaders? >> well, i would imagine that north korea was one of the top issues that they discussed during the summit and during his time in florida, so i think the
north korean actions just re-enforced for both leaders why this is the number one threat to both prime minister abe and to president trump. i think the north korean actions were deliberately timed after what was a pretty good week in terms of u.s. policy in asia, with regard to president trump's call with xi jinping and secretary mattis's trip to the region, i think the trump administration said look, we're here and we're not going to be an easy issue to deal with. >> right now the national security advisor is said to have broke on the law and critics call for him to be fired, for him to step down. how much does that impact the advice that this group can give the president at this time? >> i think the precedent is going to get advise from a wide range of people, including the folks in the state department,
embassies, from the intelligence community, as well as the national security county simm and national security advisers, north korea's testing of this particular missile could form the basis, the engines they tested for this missile could form the basis of a long range icbm test in the future. so this is a approximate national security threat and i think that president trump will use all of his national advisors to determine what the next way forward. >> what would you expect to come of discussions with administration officials. >> i think they will ask all members, u.n. member states to abide by the sanctions that are enumerated in those resolutions,
particularly those commitments to china that would affect the finances that north korea has for building these missiles, there may be a statement that comes out of the u.n. security council as well. i don't expect a full-fledged resolution, though. >> we keep hearing that china is like the lynch pin in all of this. why isn't china tougher on north korea. >> turning the korean peninsula into a u.s. military ally, a democratic military ally right on china's border. but there's a lot more that china could do, they promised to do so in the last security council resolution, particularly as i said on coal, but in the last order of 2016, north korean coal imports were at a record high, so they're clearly not doing what they're supposed to
do in terms of complying the resolutions. >> when he was a candidate, president trump made this suggestion for dealing with north korea. >> wouldn't you rather in a certain sense rather have china have nuclear weapons than north korea to have them. they don't have them yet, but they will have a carrier system soon. they're very fearful of north korea, and we're supposed to protect. >> does that seem like a realistic policy for helping japan? would japan even want that? >> i don't think japan is interested in producing nuclear weapons. i think what those sorts of statements reflect is the stakes that are at play in this issue, if we are not able to prevent north korea from becoming a full-fledged nuclear weapons state, there could be ripple effects in the region, and i think that's what those comments
were referring to. but this is the ninth time they have tried to test this missile. the last two times before the election were unsuccessful, and this was a successful missile launch, and this could mean that they're perfecting their missiles, that they may want to send to iran or others. both japan and the u.s. and it's allies need to focus on and it's the number one security issue. >> you just brought upp iran an its nuclear missiles. which do you think is the biggest threat. >> i think the real threat is north korea. iran has a developing nuclear program, north korea has one.
they're trying to create a missile that can reach the united states. so i think while the stakes are high in both cases, and there has been a lot of attention paid to the iran case, the north korean case, as president obama told president trump reportedly in their white house meeting is really going to be the number one issue in this administration. >> thanks for offering your expertise for us. still to come, people in president trump's inner circle are still focused on the numbers from election day. a senior white house official staying on the claim that millions of people voted illegally. so what's their strategy here? plus the fight for the president's travel ban, could a new executive order come as early as tomorrow? and later, sean spicer's tough week from fighting with the press to late-night parodies, does the white house press secretary have a pr problem? that's all ahead, you're live in the cnn newsroom. not back.
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president trump says all opss are on the table when it comes to reinstating his travel ban. so let's bring in cnn's white house correspondent, let's break down the options the trump team is now considering? >> reporter: they're considering and pursuing a range of options is how white house senior advisor put it on the sunday circuit today. one is continuing to fight for the travel ban in court, whether it's in the supreme court, another hearing, an on bonk or issues new executive orders or taking further executive actions, that is what the president teased to reporters on friday, saying there could be a
brand-new executive order as early as monday or tuesday, now he didn't commit to that time frame, and in interviews today with steven miller and with another trump aid, sarah huckabee-sanders, another white house aid was working out how soon it would take these next steps, we do know that president trump feels that there's a state of urgency, so they want to move quickly, but it's not clear if they're going to be ready to file a new executive order as early as tomorrow. one change they could make to the order, of course, is to make it clearer that it does not apply to green card holders, which is legal residents. >> let's stick with the immigration theme here, a lot of people talking about those immigration raids in 12 states that happened over the past week, athena, what has president trump said about those raids? >> reporter: that's right, those
raids have left a lot of people in immigrant communities and in the broader community concerned and fearful. the president tweeted about this earlier today, he said the crackon on illegal criminals is merely the keeping of my campaign promises. it's a signal that this administration is going to be tough on undocumented criminals. what's interesting here is that i.c.e. officials said that the planning for these raids had begun under the obama administration, so it's interesting to see president trump taking credit here, even though it appears that these large scale raids, we're talking about some over 160 people, just in the los angeles area, another 200 in several other states, so it's interesting the sort of, not really clear what's going on there, anna.
>> it is interesting because president obama was the deporter in chief by some accounts, according to la raza, back in the day, when they were upset with what he was doing, but we never saw these wide scale protests that we're seeing now, instead of blaming president obama for what's happening, president trump owns it. so obviously he's happy to see what's going on and we'll continue to follow where it goes from here. coming up. trump and trudeau set to meet with the canadian prime minister this week to talk about things they don't agree about. we'll get a preview next. (vo) data plans aren't one size fits all. and since most people use less than 5 gigs,
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welcome back, you're in the cnn newsroom. in the next few minutes, president trump aboard air force one is scheduled to land at andrews air force base ahead of a meeting with the canadian minister. these are very different leaders, both having very different outlooks on the world, especially when it comes to trade and immigration. i want to bring in international correspondent paula newton, who's here with me. paula, prime minister trudeau said he's going to come here with the idea that he's seeking
common ground with the new u.s. president. >> 75% of everything canada exports comes to the united states. it's an excitizen -- what's going on in canada, in terms of trying to have a thriving north american economy, justin trudeau is saying all the right things. take a look. >> we both got elected on strengthening the middle class and that's what we're going to be discussing in these meetings, making sure that millions of good middle class jobs on both sides of our boarder, that is dependent on the smooth flow of goods and services and people back across our border. >> brr, it looks cold. >> essentially, he was on a tour of the far north there, and that's where he was happened to be asked that question.
a lot of people are looking at the optics of this, anna, you can't get a leader who's more different than donald trump. he is a multilateralist, he's a progressi progressive. more than half of his cabinet is women. they have been so studious, all of his cabinet members have said, look, you do not criticize donald trump, you do not criticize u.s. policy. i know i have tried a million times to talk to him about it and it had not worked and they were like that even before the election. >> while they're theirfcareful criticize, they're not necessarily in agreement with what the president has done here? >> what was making a lot of news when the travel ban came in is that prime minister trudeau tweeted, he's saying, look, to
those fleeing persecution, terror and war, canadians will welcome you, regardless of your faith. diversity is our strength. you remember that the canadian immigration site crashed. this is very serious in terms of we are seeing the numbers at certain border points in canada, double and triple, from people not presenting themselves to the border but sneaking into canada and making refugee claims when they get there. >> where are they coming? >> from new york state into quebec, from vermont into quebec. jui justin trudeau is a son of a former canadian prime minister. you can be the elephant or the mouse, so they're going to be
incredibly careful, about this influx on the border, they're going to be, the outcome of the travel ban, they're being very quiet right now. >> it will be interesting to hear what comes out of their meeting tomorrow and what their message is looking forward. coming up, senator al franken's statements concerning the president. >> he lies a lot. he says things that aren't true. >> why he says both democrats and republicans are concerned about the president's mental health. there's no party like a lobster party, and this is the lobster party. red lobster's lobsterfest is back with 9 irresistible lobster dishes. yeah, it's a lot. try tender lobster lover's dream and see how sweet a lobster dream can be. or pick two delicious lobster tails with new lobster mix and match. the only thing more tempting than one succulent lobster tail, is two. is your mouth watering yet? good. because there's something for everyone,
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that canadian prime minister. he also has a meeting with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu on wednesday. again, live pictures from air force one, president trump arriving back in washington, d.c. tonight. thanks for staying with us here in the cnn news room. democratic senator al franken says president trump's repeated claims of voter fraud have not only democrats but some of his republican colleagues now questioning the president's mental health. here's what he told jake trapper. >> do you have concerns about president trump's mental health? >> yes. not the majority, but it's a few. >> in what way? >> in the way we all have this suspicion that, you know, that he's not, he lies a lot. he says things that aren't true, that's the same as lying, i guess.
he, you know, 3 million to 5 million people voted illegally, there's a new one about people going into massachusetts. >> thousands and thousands in a bus, yeah. >> and, you know, that is not the norm for a president of the united states or actually for a human being. >> we should note, cnn cannot confirm franken's assertion that a few of his colleagues have expressed thds concerns. former political commentator and communications districtor for ted cruz and the president obviously doesn't want a headline like this out there, even if he thinks it's absolutely ridiculous, how does he combat it? >> you combat it just by taking it head on. look, it is unequivocal facts
matter, and that goes for whether they're spoken by the president, the administration or those in the media. and it's important that everyone be factual. while on occasion, the typical story line may have changed for the president. but for members of the senate, or members of congress to question his mental health, that's uncalled for, that's p p reprehensible and there should not be any of that. to continue, it's just disrespectful and uncalled for in the presidential arena. >> what do you make of it? >> i don't know donald trump, i don't think alice knows him, i don't think al franken does, but you know who's been friends with him for years and attended his wedding? howard stern, he said donald trump has a very fragile ego, he wants to be liked, he wants to be loved, he wants people to
cheer for him. last time i checked, donald trump was pro abortion. he might be delusional because i love this, i don't know why people don't pick this up. the day after he was inaugurated, he goes to the cia. he said the rain stopped when i came out and spoke, and then the sun came out and then when i stopped speaking, it started raining again. that's ee's either not true, o he's -- those illegals who allegedly voted for clinton right before they did the bowling green massacre, should have us all concern econcerned. >> we did hear stephen miller doubling down on the unsubstantiated voter fraud claims earlier this week. >> voter fraud is a serious problem in this country, you have millions of people who are registered in two states, who
are dead and registered to vote, and you have 14% of noncitizens, according to academic research, at a minimum are registered to vote, which is an astonishing statistic. >> hold on a second, you just claimed again that that was illegal voting in new hampshire from people bussed into massachusetts. do you have any evidence of that? >> george, go to new hampshire, talk to anybody who's worked in politics there for a long time. everybody's aware of the problems in new hampshire. >> for the president right now, we're looking at lye pictures as he walks off the plane, air force one back in washington, d.c. when you hear stephen miller come out and continuing to fuel the narrative of voter fraud in the u.s., not just voter fraud, but widespread voter fraud, what's your response? >> lies, shameless lies, it's pathetic, and voter fraud which doesn't exist is really threatening to republicans because they want to engage in voter suppression and voter id
laws against people like african-americans. he can simply say i was mistaken, there weren't illegal votes, look, i won, but i'm so set on proving the biggest of everything, that i will now lie and have sean spicer lie and even have stephen miller lie, and he identified voter fraud as being registered in two different states, and you know who else is registered in other states? steve bannon and jared kushner. >> just because you're registered in two states, doesn't mean you're voting in both states, but there are instances where that has happened and there are cases of that voter fraud, not widespread, however. >> i think it's important to remember where this began, when there first became questions about voter regularities and russian hacking in the
elections, president trump was frustrated, understandably so, because he felt that that was a way to delegitimize his victorv, that's what started conversations about voter fraud. and it's morphed into what we have now about repeated claims about millions of people who voted illegally and voter fraud. i myself don't believe there's evidence of that, i have worked as deputy secretary of state, and these elections are run state by state and it's virtually impossible to have such widespread voter fraud as they're claiming, but that being said, if they feel that, girlfriegive us some sort of evidence so we can have can confidence in your investigation that you're carrying out. if they were to do that they would get a lot more run way. i think it's important to focus on what we saw in the split screen, it was a successful
weekend with the japanese prime minister where he worked on building a relationship with them and the ballistic missile test from north korea and showing a united front, those are the things that are positive that he should be focusing on instead of things that not a lot of people have put much faith in. "snl" had a sketch last night featuring the president having his day in court over that blocked travel ban. let's talk about that issue after we take a look at that sketch. >> president trump, look, i have read the ban, it seemed rushed even to me, and i decide three court cases in an hour. i see no evidence that it will help. >> i would like to settle. >> what? >> i would like to settle out of court. they always settle pocahontas.
>> i want one day without a cnn alert that scares the hell out of me. >> so she says, you're doing too much, "snl" poking fun at how much we have been covering in just the past three weeks. alice, what's your response? >> i think on one hand it's good that they are following through on campaign promises, they are promise keepers, as the vice president continues to say, a lot of what he told trump supporters, he is following through on that and that's a positive sign and also the measures he made, the executive orders with regard to law and order and safety and protecting our law enforcement officers, those are things that are sorely needed in this country, but at the same time, with regard to the travel ban executive order, they could have taken a little bit more time to make sure that the legalities of that were sound on the front end and make
sure all the is were cross and ts were dotted. all of that unfortunately before the courts, we would be in a much different situation. but i do strongly believe the law is on their side with the travel ban, and i think if they rework the executive order they'll be successful and won't face legal challenges if they were to rewrite it and go about it another time. >> do you agree? >> no, instead of issuing these executive orders it would be nice if he actually wrote them and didn't rely on steve bannon and stephen miller. and advocate for the purchase of ivanka's clothes and going into nordstrom and all that. but he doesn't know what he's doing, this shows rank incompetence of his administration. i agree with alice, that had they reworked it, that he would have a better chance. but it is an unconstitutional
muslim ban, and it was good to see donald trump who's used to election, gets trumped, anonymously, legal ruling 3-0 unanimous ruling. also reminding president trump that there's a judiciary checks and balances and separation of powers and he's not the everyoner. >> got to get in a break here, appreciate you both in offering your thoughts to us tonight. coming up from political fire works to late night parodies, take a look at sean spicer's rough week as white house press secretary. >> this is silly, next. okay, thank you, you have asked your question. s. and you can count all the ingredients in flavored almond milk on ten fingers and five toes.
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uh-oh. it's melana. whoa, slow your roll, honey, then we're going to pattern down and we're going to read her emails and if we don't like the answers, which we won't, boom, guantanamo bay. >> how does he portray sean spicer without losing it herself. his combative exchanges with the white house press corps have almost become daytime tv. the soap opera at the white house is outscoring the actual soaps like "general hospital." here's a taste of why. >> audience comment were about
that the president doesn't have time to tweet about everything. he's tweeting about this. >> right. >> he's not tweeting about something else. >> i came out here and actually spoke about it and said the president spoke. >> what about the president's time? >> you're equating me addressing the nation here in a tweet? i mean that's the silliest thing i have ever heard. that's silly, next. >> after that happened here were the headlines, from politico, sean spicer loses his cool with the press. from "gq," donald trump can't help but make sean spicer's life miserable. and from "the washington post," sean spicer went full melissa mccarthy today. i want to bring in hemedia correspondent. >> i guess the plus side for sean is that he's the best known press secretary in memory, but the bad side is he's kind of a laughing stock and i don't know
how he gets out from under the characterization now, other than actually embracing it. i think being combative is only making it worse. people are saying, wow, he's doing melissa mccarthy now. >> because this is the trump administration, are people being maybe hyper critical? >> i think the trump administration is being scrutinized for everything they do, because as you showed in the clip, it seems like every hour there's a new alert, that something is happening, that people are like, just, it makes their head spin. it's a critical eye being turned on it. i don't think you can deny that, and if you're talking about "saturday night live," you're talking about the premier satirical entertainment in the country right now that's come into itself again in the biggest way it's been in years, the
ratings are spectacular, they had the highest ratings last night than they have had in since years, so it's very successful for them. >> "vanity fair" went so far as to call president trump our very own baghdad bob. >> the press has stated that they don't believe a lot of what he says, because a lot of what he says has proven to be wrong, about fraudulent voting, et cetera. he's having trouble talking, which she may reference, melissa mccarthy, trying to pronounce names and then messing them up. being portrayed as baghdad bob is the worst thing you can say about a press secretary because nothing he says is credible. >> i can't help but feel bad for
them knowing that he is on tv and knowing the kind of scrutiny that is sometimes thrown at you. how has melissa mccarthy's skit been in shaping the public opinion of sean spicer? >> people don't really know the press secretary, people watched him a little bit, because he made sort of noise attacking the press. she comes out and it was a big surprise, now she comes out and repeats it. it's like pounding him over the head with a sledgehammer. i think he is under duress. i do think it's interesting that he asked about using a water gun with the press, and that would have been a good idea, i would think, because at least they would have said he's playi inin along. playing along with the only way you can fight it.
>> an administrator in the dominican republic got blasted for using a photo of alec baldwin playing president trump instead of an actual photo. >> i think it's an obvious mistake, but it gets to the place where people are crossing over, the alec baldwin impression is being seen by an enormous number of people. and so some foolish person in the dominican republic made that mistake, but it underscores that there's just not a lot of serious thoughtful stuff going on in terms of the way people are reacting to this president. they're reacting in visceral ways, they either love him or they hate him, it's one of the two extremes. >> quick break, we'll be right back. baa baa black sheep,
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awards shows have been very political this awards condition. jake tapper brings us this week's state of the cartoonian. >> reporter: this year's grammy nominees are quite relevant to our current political situation. perhaps president trump was channeling adele's hit "hello" when he called president putin. >>. ♪ hello it's me
>> reporter: and perhaps secretary spicer was channeling beyonce's hit "formation" when he criticized the state department over the controversial travel ban. >> i think they should get with the program or they can go. >> reporter: or kellyanne conway's -- >> i have been on cnn over 1,000 times in my career, i'm sure. >> reporter: and is it possible, white house strategist steve bannon is channeling demi know vat toe. >> just think of our current white house drama featuring those earlier songs and maybe it will be much easier to listen to. >> jake tapper, where do you find the time. up next, it's a "parts unknown"