good morning, everyone. top of the hour, 10:00 a.m. eastern. i'm poppy harlow. john berman has the week off. so glad you're with us. we begin with angry voters unleashing on lawmakers back home. just watch. [ yelling ] town halls across the country erupting in shouting matches, as you see. lawmakers trying to field questions from angry constituents on everything from immigration to the travel ban to obamacare. some republicans dismissing the protesters as just paid

activists. the president tweeting, "actually in numerous cases planned out by liberal activists. sad!" kyung lah joins me from new york. the president says they're liberal activists. what do you see? >> let's talk about the organizational structure first. so they are responding to a good bo -- guidebook that was put out. this engagement with lawmakers is coming from the guidebook. but they're not being specifically led by anyone. they feel empowered. >> how do they carry these words into action? >> in some locations, yes, they

want to flip the district. but that's a tough goal, that's a long term goal for 2018. we've seen different sentiments in each one, immigration, obamacare. this is about voter involvement. here are a couple of examples of voters talking to their congress men. >> we have in the white house a notorious white nationalist as a special adviser to the president of the united states. i would like to know your thoughts on that. >> first of all, i don't speak for the president. >> we would like to know how you feel about it. you're our congresswoman. >> would you have to acknowledge we have too damn many people on food stamps in kentucky. these coal jobs are not coming out and now these people don't have the insurance they need because they're poor. if you can answer any of that, i'll sit down and shut up like

elizabeth warren. >> you can see the senator trying to respond as well as he could. what i am hearing is that people are grateful that a lot of these lawmakers, knowing they're going to get hit by this, are showing up. >> you showed the sign, "where is darrell isa." >> some people on social media are saying, where are our senators? but can you blame them? senator joni ernst was looking at an uphill climb throughout. there was reporting after that town hall that she cut it short. but we're hearing from her office today that what ended up happening is she tried to answer as long as possible but it was hard to speak with that crowd. >> people feel like they pay

their congress people's salaries. patricia murphy just wrote a column about the winners and losers in all of this. and angela ryan, former director of the congressional black caucus. nice to have you all here. let me begin with you, patricia. you made this list of who wins and who loses. who wins, someone like joni ernst or marsha blackburn who get screamed at, or the people who just don't show up? >> the winners are members of congress who show up and take the criticism. mark sanford stayed for three hours at a town hall meeting over the weekend, fielding people's complaints. people are upset, anxious, confused about what might be happening in congress over the next several months. and congressman sanford just listened and answered to the

best of his ability. to me, voters are sophisticated enough to understand that their congressman will always agree with them but they do expect them to listen to them, not just the republican fish fries who are welcoming you to come to their fundraiser. they want their congressman to hear from them even if they don't agree with them. >> the president piled on on twitter, he said these are liberal activists. as kyung lah said, some of them are following a guidebook, but you heard that woman in kentucky screaming, people are on food stamps, can't afford their health care, and what are you going to do about it? this is how the white house press secretary addressed these folks when he was asked about it earlier this month on fox news. >> do you sense, instead of being organic disruption, do you sense there's an organized pushback and people are being paid to protest? >> absolutely. protesting has become a

profession. they have every right to do it. but we need to call it what it is. it's not the organic uprisings that we've seen, the tea party was very organic. this is a paid, astroturf type movement. >> mmm, paid astroturf type movement, maybe some but not all. doug? >> that's truth to that. guy cecil, no stranger to cnn audiences, he's running a town hall forum twitter account that he was linking to yesterday to get people to come to town halls. clearly there are people throughout the country, upset and concerned about the direction the country is going in. but paid or unpaid, it doesn't matter, republicans need to be

prepared for this and need to know what they're going to say going in. these are their constituents, treat them accordingly. offer them some coffee. >> i don't know if coffee is going to do it, but it might be a start. look, any time you quote "meatballs" on this program, we're off to a good start. do you believe people who came out and said, this isn't necessarily the most productive way to get things done, what risk does someone like him saying that, someone like darrell isa who are not showing up at these, what risks do you believe they run? >> i think that tim scott is of course entitled to his own opinion, but i think you have a group of very frustrated americans, 46 million and counting probably, who are trying to figure out what is the process for getting things done. you have a democratic party that is very much i would say in an identity crisis or at least finding itself right now after a very hard election that frankly many of us know and see by the numbers we won the popular vote.

so there is a lot of confusion happening. there's a lot of frustration. there's a lot of anger. you see the president's approval ratings, you're trying to understand what congress is really going to do to hold him accountable and you have not seen much movement in his first few weeks here or almost a month now. so i think that's the real issue. we don't know what he's going to do to move an agenda that impacts and helps the disenfranchised in this country, the marginalized in this country. whether people are paid or not, i don't have any proof of that. it's interesting that an administration that offers fake news would be the pushers of that type of news. it's interesting that they can't take it for what it is, strategic disagreement to an agenda that does not include all americans. >> patricia, we're hearing that some of these republican representatives especially in swing districts are making the political calculation that it's better for them not to show up,

or to have tele-town-halls and not be in the room. politically speaking, let's step aside from what is right to the american people, answering to your constituents, but politically speaking, what's the best answer for those people who are vulnerable in those swing districts? >> not smart. not smart to not listen or even pretend to listen to your constituents. it's not a theoretical question. if you go back to what happened in 2009 with tea party protesters which i believe was an organic movement, they were very real but democratic leaders literally called it astroturf just like sean spicer is calling this astroturf, an attempt to delegitimize what's happening in their own districts. but democrats lost a lot of seats. whether they're paid or not, i don't believe they are. i've talked to people who say,

can you tell my congressman i'm not getting paid. >> doug, you make the argument in your cnn opinion piece this week, that republicans are not bound to hold meetings. >> it's not an either/or proposition. if you want to go to a huge forum like joni ernst did, tim scott did, i agree with tim scott, it's not an either/or proposition. you can go to these events or do something different, if you want to learn about obamacare, visit a community center or hospital, talk to doctors and patients. if you want to learn more about education, visit a school. this requires members to be more vigilant in how they interact with constituents. but they don't have to go to free for all forums. they can be smarter than that, and the republican conference is working with members to make sure that these members avoid being seen as awol. >> i want to get you guy's take

on something else. john podesta who ran hillary clinton's campaign did an interview and was asked about fbi director james comey and his role at all in the election. here is how he put it. >> you have a theory that comey wanted trump to win, that the fbi wanted trump to win. that's got to be some theories here. >> i think there's sort of two possibilities. there are at least forces within the fbi that wanted her to lose. i'm not sure they were prepared -- they really understood the alternative. but they wanted her to lose. i think that's one possibility. i think the other is, it's become a cover your ass organization and there was pressure coming up from underneath him and he succumbed to that pressure. >> angela, let me get your response, the democrat on this panel, what do you think? is this just sore loser stuff? >> i don't agree with the sore loser idea. i don't want to call john

podesta, who was the chairman of her campaign, a sore loser. i think he's calling into question things that, again, americans all over this country have continued to call into question. do i have any evidence of that? no. but i think it's fair for him to raise whatever theories he would like. i certainly have some theories that i've talked about on air, i have gut feelings, i've talked about them on air. i definitely support the members of the house and senate who are calling for an investigation not only into this election but ties that trump has with his business interests and russia. there are all types of issues surrounding this election which would make us i don't think sore losers, but reasonable doubt. >> you get the last word. thank you all. still to come, a lot ahead this hour. borde border-bound, house speaker paul ryan heading south to the u.s./mexico border. voters are mad. how do you channel this anger

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we're expecting this week that the trump administration will unveil its revised travel ban executive order, a new version aimed as erasing the legal blunders of the first rollout. this comes on the heels of a new presidential order on immigration, a crackdown that puts millions of undocumented immigrants in this country at risk of deportation. together, these are some of the most sweeping and controversial reforms we've seen in years. let's begin with joe johns at the white house this morning with more. i know we don't have any timing yet, do we, on when this executive order may be handed down? >> reporter: no, no timing on that, and obviously even after

that a big question, how long it will actually take to get to implementation. but this is a big deal. we're talking about changes to a law that could probably affect a majority of the estimated 11 million people who are in the united states illegally. this is expand authority of course for immigration officers, a surge in the administrative judges, the immigration judges that handle cases, an increase in the number of detention centers. huge changes across the board. but perhaps the biggest one, the one that a lot of people are zeroing in on is this idea of enforcing the law in a way that includes not just those immigrants who have been convicted of serious crimes in the united states, but also people who may be accused of crimes in the united states. listen to sean spicer, the white house press secretary.

>> everybody who is here illegally is subject to removal at any time. that is consistent with every country. but the priority that the president has laid forward and the priority that i.c.e. is putting forward through dhs's guidance is to make sure that people who commit a crime or are a threat to public safety are the priority of their efforts. >> reporter: so there's a lot to do here with this new directive from the administration on immigration. the question of course not just the timetable about when they're finally going to put it out there, but also a question of how long it's going to take to actually get it implemented, and then how much it's going to cost. back to you, poppy. >> joe johns at the white house, thank you. and just about an hour from now, the president will sit down with secretary of state rex tillerson before rex tillerson heads with secretary of homeland security john kelly to mexico. they're set to meet with the president of mexico.

obviously the relationship between the mexican government and the trump administration has been strained, at least. what will come from this meeting? our leyla santiago is in mexico city with more. what can we expect? >> reporter: poppy, we expect tillerson to arrive tonight. there will be a series of meetings tomorrow with president enrique pnieto. what will be interesting will be the tone that comes out of this. this new administration has not struck a positive tone with mexicans, given comments president trump made on the campaign and given the back and forth we saw in late january between the mexican president as well as president trump. then you have the timing of the memo out of dhs. we haven't heard much from the mexican government, but here is what we heard from mexicans planning to cross illegally into

the u.s., when it comes to immigration and trump's policies. >> he's saying that a border wall would not stop him from going back. he's saying donald trump can put four or five walls, and that won't keep him from migrating up to the u.s. because he wants to find a way to be with his family. >> reporter: his name was moises vazquez. he's been deported three times under the obama and trump administrations. we expect immigration as well as the dhs memos that came out yesterday to certainly be a topic in these meetings as well as trade and nafta, the free trade agreement between canada, mexico, and the u.s., poppy. >> you can bet they will be, we'll see if there are any tweets exchanged by the president of the u.s. and the president of mexico after this

meeting. leyla, thank you. house speaker paul ryan is set to lead a group of republican lawmakers to the mexican border today, on a factfinding mission about border security. this as congress looks at the wall proposal and how to pay for it. it seems like the house speaker and his office have been pretty tight-lipped about this trip, not exactly playing it up ahead of time. any details you've learned? >> reporter: yeah, poppy, in fact, having grown up in the region and even covered it for several years, i can tell you these kind of visits are not unusual in this part of the country. what is extraordinary is the incredible amount of efforts being made to limit access not only to public but also to the press, of the speaker's visit to the border. one high level law enforcement official i spoke to tells me there are a couple of concerns there, saying not only is there a security issue, when you have

the speaker of the house on the border, but also the concern for protesters, as this is one of the epicenters of debate about donald trump's proposed border wall but also the flow of undocumented people. this is after all the busiest border region that has seen the highest level of apprehensions here by border patrol. again, paul ryan's office here in the last hour really not offering a whole lot of information as to why this is happening, why they're limiting that access, saying they are at this point declining to explain why this is playing out. i can total you, though, that we do expect or at least these kinds of institutional tours by air and also by boat, but again, the office of speaker paul ryan has not explained whether or not that is going to take place. this is where the heart of that debate is playing out. it will be interesting to see what the speaker of the house does get to see in what will be his first trip to the border at speaker, poppy. >> a tour our own ed lavendera

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good morning. i'm poppy harlow. john berman has the week off. so glad you're with us. lawmakers going back home this week and some of them not feeling the love. look. [ crowd chants "shame on you" ]

>> angry chants as senator joni ernst in iowa came face-to-face with angry constituents. some of them are outraged after the president's first month in office and what their representatives in congress doing. some democrats facing the angry as well. california representative adam schiff, ranking member of the select committee on intelligence, thanks for being here. >> great to be here, thank you. >> yelling makes for great television, but how do you as a party turn this into action, how will you take these people, motivate them in a way they weren't motivated, frankly, in the presidential race? >> poppy, i have to say i was chuckling as i was seeing that clip of sean spicer on fox suggesting these are paid astroturf activists. does he really think the millions of people that have turned out to protest, go to town halls --

>> just to be clear, congressman, i should have probably said on the air, that was on february 6th, he was asked about protesters in general including protesters protesting after the president's inauguration, so just to be clear, that wasn't him this week addressing the town halls. >> at the same time, gop members and commentators are suggesting still that these are paid activists, paid protesters. and if he really thinks that any organization has the capacity to turn out these millions of people, i would like to meet the leaders of that organization. it would be very impressive. but the reality is this is entirely organic. it is not being organized by the democratic party or the republican party or any wealthy philanthropist. these are people who are i think desperately concerned about the direction of the country. i share that concern. and who are turning out and activated in a way i've never seen before. and i think it eclipses anything i've seen before. because it's organic, it's a

challenge for members of both parties. i've had a number of town halls and coffees since the election. and they're challenging, because people are very upset, and they are desperately concerned about which way the country is going. but i think the best thing representatives can do is hear people out. and what we hope to accomplish is to have that energy turn productivively into changing governance in the country. >> you want it to help you in the 2018 mid-terms, the challenge, you're right, is how to go from words to action. i want to get your take on the new executive order we're expecting from the white house, basically a new travel ban. you said to politico earlier this week that the original travel ban, quote, is already affecting our intelligence partnerships in other parts of the world. how specifically has it done that, what intelligence do you have to point to that? >> well, you know, i was in munich at the national security

conference and talking with leaders from other parts of the world, the president of afghanistan, the president of iraq. and clearly this has been kind of a body blow to our cooperation. they're still working with us. but it just got a lot more difficult. and you can imagine, if we're trying to recruit sources, trying to gather intelligence, and people that we're working with or hope to work with, their last, you know, chance if they are discovered is the hope that they can emigrate, that they can find protection in the united states. if we can't offer that anymore, or more broadly, people don't want to work with us because they think our country is hostile to islam or more hostile to people from their country, it makes it that much more difficult. >> the white house says this isn't a muslim ban, obviously you and others have a different take on that. you were in iraq three weeks ago, and you said, on the ground in iraq what you see is that the

united states is competing for influence in iraq with iran. adam kinslinger made this comment just yesterday with wolf blitzer. >> i actually wish that iraq was not included on the travel ban. i think it will be, because iraq is our closiest ally in fightin isis. >> he says iraq shouldn't be included. i assume you agree with him, from your assessment there on the ground as to why. >> i do agree. frankly, beyond that, i don't think we ought to be singling out these countries in particular iraq, adam is right, because we are competing for influence with iran. we need to be able to work with iraqis. we're shoulder to shoulder with them right now in the fight in mosul to try to take back that city from isis. but even more broadly than that, even if you carve iraq out, as long as this is perceived as the

president has said is his intention that this is really designed to ban muslims from coming into the country, it's going to hurt us in riraq, if they're included or not, it's going to hurt us in the entire muslim world. king abdullah of jordan was recently in washington. you can imagine how difficult it is. he's already walking a balancing wire, given the challenges within jordan, with his neighbors. but how does he explain to his people cooperation with a country that would ban essentially people coming with the faith that most of his countrymen practice? there's just no way to sugarcoat that. and this new ban is going to look a lot like the old ban and it's going to be tainted by the same, i think, intention all along, which is to give effect to his campaign promise of banning muslims. >> congressman, it might and it might not. i have to point back to comments made by fbi director james comey

that "i can't make absolute assurances there are no risks associated with refugees coming into this country," and the former head of the dni who says there is a concern about isis trying to infiltrate operatives into the refugees. >> there's always room for improvement in terms of how we vet people coming into the country. the greater threat the country faces isn't coming from these countries. it's coming from europe. it's people that have gone from europe to iraq and syria to fight, have come back to europe, and now can travel to the u.s. with no visa at all. we don't want to look at that because we're dependent in the whole travel industry on people coming from europe. but if we're serious about looking at where the vulnerabilities are, that's where they come from. but this is not about security, because it's alienating our

allies, it's focusing on countries that have not been the source of the problem. this is about politics. this is about catering to that base that supported donald trump, living up to his promise of a muslim ban. if he was really doing this for national security reasons, he would be looking where the vulnerability is, and that is european foreign fighters. >> congressman, we have to leave it there. i appreciate you joining us. >> thanks, poppy. tonight on cnn, a big question, a big debate. who will lead the democratic party in the era of trump? the democratic leadership debate, tonight, moderated by our dana bash and chris cuomo, tonight at 10:00 p.m. on cnn. coming up, a live report from mosul about the fight to liberate the area from isis. your insurance company

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set off a series of bombings, suicide bombings, car bombings that have really sort of spread terror in a population that was beginning to return to the city. now some of the residents of eastern mosul are leaving because of the uncertain security situation. we also understand these isis sleeper cells are distributing leaflets warning everybody that if they cooperate with the iraq authorities, they will be killed, poppy. >> ben, also we know that a man who carried out a suicide bombing on monday, we've learned, has been identified as a british former detainee of guantanamo bay. what have we learned? >> reporter: this is ronald fidlor, he was a 50-year-old british national from manchester. in 2001 he was picked up by u.s. forces in pakistan, sent to

guantanamo bay. he was released in 2004. afterwards he claimed to have been tortured. the british government paid him 1 million pounds in compensation for that. however, we understand that in 2014, he traveled through turkey into syria, joined isis. he took on an isis name, and three days ago he was basically a suicide car bomber, killed himself right outside of an iraqi army base southwest of mosul. we understand that between iraq and syria, there are about 400 british nationals fighting on the side of isis, poppy. >> indeed, ben wedeman, live for us in irbil, iraq, thank you, ben, for all that reporting. coming up for us, the white house at odds with some of their key economic agencies over just

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is the white house trying to paint a rosier picture about the country than exists? the president is ordering the staff of the council of economic advisers to say the economy will grow 3.5% over the next decade.

some economists say that's too optimistic. there is also debate on how to calculate the u.s. trade deficit. cnn's christine alesci is here to tell us how we should care about this and why it matters to average folks. >> an excellent question. it matters because politicians usually use data to make decisions. if you something the other way around and you make decisions and then use data to support those decisions, it raises all sorts of credibility issues. and it also raises concerns that you can't trust government data, that it's not politically expedient. now, in your example you pointed to growth numbers. why would president trump want to make the economy or forecast that the economy will grow at a much stronger rate than most mainstream economists? well, this would put him on further ground to say the u.s. can carry more debt.

>> we can spend more. >> we can spend more and we can cut taxes. the republicans he's going to be facing on this would want him to reduce spending in order to cut those taxes. so this would put him on firmer ground to say, hey, we're going to grow at this incredible rate, we can handle more debt. >> at the same time he hasn't named anyone to his council of economic advisers, something that is somewhat of a stopgap, an independent body that comes to the president and says, hey, here are the real economic numbers. he hasn't named anyone to that. this is a guy who didn't believe the economic numbers under obama were real. >> it's an important point, poppy, not only has he not named anyone to that council but he's also demoted that council. under the obama administration, the council, the head of that council was on the cabinet, was a cabinet position. now it is not. that's also another development that's concerning. >> i didn't know that. on that point, though, let's listen to what the president has said over the last year or so about the jobs numbers that have

been getting better and better. play it. >> every time it comes out, i hear, 5.3% unemployment. that is the biggest joke there is. don't believe those phony numbers when you hear 4.9 and 5% unemployment. the unemployment number, as you know, is totally fiction. >> so poppy, there's a lot of debate around the way -- the headline number, whether the headline number of unemployment reflects the true picture of the labor market in the u.s. >> it's not 30%. >> right. the labor department does calculate other measures as well. the problem is you have these messages that suggest the government statisticians are not doing their jobs and people shouldn't believe in them entirely. in fact the new treasury secretary has alluded to sort of the same point. take a listen. >> the unemployment rate is not

real. the average american worker has gone nowhere. and the president-elect is committee, as am i as his economic adviser, to work for the american people. >> so could we use a different headline number, possibly? but the bureau of labor statistics does include marginally attached workers, those workers not looking for work actively in another measure. >> so what would it be, then, 9, 10%? >> 9 or 10%, not 20, not 30, not 40. if we want to get really wonky we'll call it the usix. still to come, magic johnson coming off the bench to save his beloved los angeles lakers. hines ward explains next. try alka seltzer heartburn relief chews.

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a legendary nba franchise calling upon a legendary former player. hines ward has more on the magic touch. >> reporter: good morning, poppy. that's right, magic johnson is taking on the job of president of operations for one of the nba's most successful franchises in history. currently they have the third worst record in the nba and they missed the playoffs three years in a row. yesterday magic said he has his sights set on the future. >> it's not about what i did when i played, what kobe did what he played. it's about the new. i'm not coming in telling them old stories about showtime and all that. it's not about that. it's about them, the new lakers. it's about having a clear direction and a clear strategy. >> reporter: you've got to love

that. magic called his new role a dream job. get this, he's won five nba championships and played his entire career for the showtime lakers, poppy. >> now he gets to be the boss. what role does the lakers team president play in all this? >> reporter: she's cleaning out, she had to fire her own brother. jim bus was in that role before magic. but his relationship with his sister had grown rocky. she also fired the general manager, for years the speculation had been that her long time boyfriend phil jackson would one day be the president of basketball operations. get this, the two broke up a couple of months ago and now that magic is taking over, that seems to end all speculation. hopefully magic can turn things around in la la land. according to multiple reports, major leageague baseball is getg rid of pitchers lobbing pitches

into the catcher. now the manager will signal from the did you goougout to the ump. the new rule should save about a minute. but poppy, i know they want to speed up the game, but come on, baseball is supposed to be a relaxing sport, right? >> yeah, i suppose it certainly is. hines ward, keeping an eye on the lakers for us and how they do under magic. >> reporter: will do. >> thank you so much, nice to have you on, my friend. thank you you all for joining us, i'm poppy harlow. see you back tomorrow morning. "at this hour with kate bolduan" begins right now. hi there, i'm brianna keilar

in for kate bolduan. as the immigration debate heats up across the country, we're keeping our eye on the southern border. republicans in congress will be meeting there to assess the cost of president trump's campaign promises, building a wall between the u.s. and mexico. house speaker paul ryan will be arriving at the border shortly. we'll take you there live when things get under way. on the other side of the border, secretary of state rex tillerson and homeland security john kelly are going to meet with mexican president enreek can a pena nieto to talk border security and to ease icy tensions between these two allied nations, all this as fears rise over president trump's new guidelines for aggressive enforcement of immigration laws which