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2026. making a vote that much harder. >> i put all this together and get to 50, it's going to be tough, the cbo score doesn't help any. if you had you probably got more problems more. >> reporter: a white house official conceding to cnn republicans are on the threshold of losing the health care battle. >> the report makes clear trumpcare would be a cancer on the american health care system. >> reporter: four gop senators are currently planning to vote against even starting debate on the senate floor, which would sink the effort to pass a bill this week. >> i won't vote to proceed to it unless the bill changes. we have reached out to senate leadership and said we will negotiate. we've had no phone calls. >> reporter: moderate senator susan collins explaining in a tweet "i want to work with my fwop and democratic colleagues to fix the flaws in aca. cbo analysis shows senate bill won't do it." >> these numbers we're talking about, these are men and women.
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these are our families that are being impacted, so let's please get it right. >> reporter: the number of gop senators currently opposed to the legislation has grown to six, with at least three others expressing concerns, leadership can only afford to lose two votes to pass the bill. >> my state is a medicaid extension state, and so we have a lot of issues. >> reporter: the cbo report also estimates that over the decade, the senate bill would reduce the national deficit by $321 billion. largely by slashing medicaid funding by $772 billion, leaving 15 million fewer americans covered under medicaid, hitting older and lower income enrollees the hardest, while providing a $541 billion tax cut to the wealthy, and insurers. the legislation would initially cause health care premiums to rise, but would ultimately lead to a 30% reduction by 2020.
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>> he had several calls over the weekend hearing ideas and opinions about how to strengthen it and will continue to support ways to make the bill stronger. >> reporter: president trump ramping up outreach to skeptical lawmakers while the white house blasts the nonpart son cbo analysis saying the cbo has consistently proven it cannot accurately predict how health care legislation will impact insurance coverage. and vice president mike pence will be hosting four senators who oppose the bill, including mike lee, for a critical -- is still moving forward with this vote, but he may reassess after a gop lunch that happens later today, so watch what happens this afternoon. briana, chris? >> suzanne, thank you so much. we bring in our panel, report and editor at large kfor cnn
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politics, chris cillizza, caroon derijja and david drucker. mr. cillizza, you have mcconnell and his own people within the gop, can he bring it to a vote or even debate and then you have this other battle which is we have problems in lots of markets involving health care. you're going to see premium spikes. things need to get done here, republican, democrat, bipartisan or otherwise. how do you see it? >> well, so the first problem will tell us a lot about how the second problem gets addressed. the first problem is, this was always going to be a very difficult vote for mitch mcconnell to get across the line. they have 52 senators, and you're seeing the problem of a sort of widely varying ideological caucus. you have susan collins, lisa murkowski, shelly of west virginia, rob portman of ohio
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centrist coverage end, focused on the cbo report, 22 million less people who get insurance. on the other hand, rand paul, mike lee, ted cruz, who don't think the bill goes far enough. those faction also always exist. mcconnell is aware of that. i don't know that changes on july 11th, 18th or 25th, any more than july 4th. if mcconnell says the votes are not going to be there, we need another plan, that's when it gets to your second point, chris, is what do they do then? because there are going to be premium spikes. there are going to be things they have to address, and there's a lot of political fallout. if republicans can't do the thing they spent seven years insisting would be the first thing that they would do, the thing that republican base voters hate the most, which is they want to get rid of at fordable care act, there will be political fallout within the base. >> this is an essential issue for democrats and republicans
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going into the midterm election next year, so when you look at this, does this seem as if it is dead, period, or is this just dead for now? >> i think it's just in trouble for now, but -- >> big trouble, little trouble? tuning they can pull this off? >> mitch mcconnell is very crafty. every congress does, whether democrats or republicans are in charge always looks dead at some point before it's final lay life. in some ways it's a good sign because if they didn't get to this point where it looked like all was lost, there wouldn't be a rainbow on the other side here and what we hathey have to do ik through the tension chris and chris are talking about, coverage, on the one hand, and the desire to make sure as many people have access to insurance as possible, and costs, on the other hand, because there is already a huge problem with premiums and deductibles people can't afford. chris, you are right. regardless of what republicans decide to do or not to to, the
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health care system is in trouble and needs to be fixed and that's why i tend to think they're going to get somewhere and get this done, even if it's in july sometime, because the option isn't just well gee, this bill is in trouble, people don't necessarily like it. let's just move on and worry about it later. republicans either have to fix the current system or replace it with something else, because there are lots of problems, and they are now going to shoulder the blame. given those options and given the political implications of not delivering on this big, huge promise, i think that they'll get there eventually. >> the shtick for the democrats there are problems with the aca, the republicans wouldn't work with us when we were in power and now they have a bill that doesn't address what the problems are. is that at all entering into the bigger discussion among republicans about other options here? >> well at this point they're grappling with the one that's in front of them. certainly you hear a lot of republicans starting to echo what have been democrats' complaints for a long time especially with the cbo report.
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when you have a number like 22 million people out there, that are going to lose their insurance, you're hearing people like susan collins point to that, you're hearing others point to that, saying that's unacceptable. you are having a cross-pollenation of talking points as democrats seized on this term to chargize this, which democrat republicans are not following suit but rooking at the policy points and saying this might be more problem problematic if we pass this. democrats got out first and further and defined the negatives. there are negatives in the cbo other republicans in the party have gotten on board with. so can they have a discussion that is not just about the
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immediate politics of trying to stop or start this bill this week and get to the substance, that's a down the line question for next month at the earliest if they finish it this week. >> the political reality republicans are grappling with and karoun hits it exactly is the idea of deficit reduction, appealing to many fiscal conservatives, but really sort of, you know, a generalized amorphous idea, the deficit is big, we need to get it down, important for the future generation. 22 million fewer people having coverage is a much more easily understandable hit you in your home, know someone who loses coverage issue, and therefore much more politically powerful, so the problem is the carrot for republicans here is teenie, and the stick is huge politically speaking. >> it's a big dollar amount but health care doesn't speak to
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budget cutting. >> right. >> if they were like shedding money off all of the agencies and here is the savings, we'll pass it along in tax reform it would make sense. cillizza has a new game mick, where he's going to have an emoji face every day to idea the state of play of whether or not there's going to be health care. have you heard about this >>. >> no, i have not. >> can you approximate what your emoji face whether it gets passed, kind of a 50/50? >> that's what my face always looks like, chris. >> i would say -- >> look, i think that was my 50/50 toward sad face. i only have basically three looks. i think dave drucker is right. proclaiming it dead on a tuesday when mcconnell said the vote ideally for him would be on a thursday, we have seen him say this, back to the budget control act of 2011, when everything
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looked lost, harry reid goes over to the floor, it's over and joe biden and mitch mcconnell come up with something. you can resurrect these things. there are entrenched views. susan collins is not going to vote for something, i'd be stunned if she did, that had 22 million less insured particularly rural americans in a state like maine. lisa murkowski will come to the same place. politically for rand paul, mike lee or ted cruz, we need to root and branch, get rid of obamacare, this bill is not going to do that, because it is by necessity a compromise. so there's just hard and fast views that i'm not sure will change and this is not mitch mcconnell with five seats to play with or four seats to play with. it's two seats to play with, so i think if you were a betting person, in my opinion, as of today, it's less than 50/50, though that doesn't mean it's zero or ten. it's more than that, but
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certainly less than a 50/50 shot. >> chris, david, and karoun, much mo are ahead to discuss with you guys. breaking news, the white house is warning syria is possibly preparing for another chemical weapons atack. they're warning assad that his regime is going to pay a "heavy price" if they do it again. that being a chemical weapons attack like we have seen in the past. cnn's barbara starr is live at the pentagon, she has breaking details. what can you tell us? >> good morning, briaberry y br. >> an extraordinary statement from the white house with no follow-up. let me read part of it saying, "the united states has identified potential preparations for another chemical weapons attack by the assad regime that would likely result in the mass murder of civilians, including innocent children."
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now, the white house also saying if at sad regime goes through with this, it will pay a heavy price. moscow a short time ago, the kremlin firing back, calling this statement unacceptable, although the kremlin has said that russia is opposed to the use of chemical weapons. all of this coming oddly enough as syrian state media today put out images of assad meeting with wounded troops in syria, sort of this syrian propaganda machine that the world has come to know so well, gearing up yet again. so look, where are we on this? what could the intelligence be that the white house is talking about? last time it was a combination of communications, intercepts, and overhead imagery that led the u.s. to be certain in its view that syria was behind that chemical weapons attack in april. we will have to see how all this sorts out and what the white house is willing to say about
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what it knows. chris? >> bar bah starr, this is a bill deal no what theer where the intel is coming from. thank you very much. you'll hear political comparisons to president obama and his red line, don't get caught up in that jazz. what matters, what would this mean for the united states if another attack like this happens and why is the white house showing its hand so soon? our panel will take this on, next. you hear these stories all the time. am i going to pass away like my mom did? and so you know this is something that's important. losing my mom to heart disease and then being diagnosed myself. it's like a war we're trying to fight against these diseases. resilience is in my dna. i won't die like my mom. it's a big challenge, but the challenge in it of itself is really what keeps me going.
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is right for your teen. moms, we can't wait. the white house issuing an unusual statement overnight saying syria is preparing for another chemical weapons atack and warning bashar al assad he'll pay a heavy price if he follows through. we bring back chris cillizza, daviddrucker and retired general mark hurt lipg. the united states identified potential preparations for another chemical weapons atack by the is aa sad regime likely result in the mass murder of civilians including innocent children, the activities are similar to preparations the regime made before its april 4th, 2017, chemical weapons atack. the united states is in syria to eliminate isis, if, however, mr. assad conducts another mass murder attack using chemical
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weapons, he and his military will pay a heavy price." why say this now? what is the white house, in your estimation, trying to achieve? >> i'm not sure, other than a wa warning. it seems to go against what candidates on the campaign trail said warning our enemies. this is different from the last attack in syria. then it was a reaction to a strike. now we're talking about the potential for a preemption of a strike based on whatever intelligence, human intelligence on the ground saying this is going to happen, overhead imagery showing planes being loaded or some type of communication that we're overhearing. so all of those things are a little bit different than that reactionary strike a few weeks ago, and it causes some challenges because the central command claimed last night they had not heard anything about a
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potential strike. we're talking about the challenges of communication and collaboration on a whole of government approach. >> general, a quick follow-up. say they have an opportunity to see this coming, what are the americans' options in terms of what they would do if this line is crossed, and we should remind people of what the effects were of that chemical attack on the citizens there last time. put up the pictures of it. you have to remind the urgency of doing this to your own people. you'll see children, you're going to see their parents, in different states of distress with very little capability on the ground there to help them. general, what is your insight on that part? >> what you're going to see, chris, is either another tomahawk strike, which is unmanned or you're going to see some type of aircraft strike that will go, along with hopefully diplomatic effort. all of those things in a preemptive strike, after it's been announced, have all sorts of changes of capabilities,
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because in that strike we gave the president gave a little bit of warning before he conducted that strike. it was less than a couple of hours. right now, you now have a warning where russian air defense systems can be turned on, people can prepare, bases can be unmanned, so you have a whole lot different perspective, and plus, if you send a man strike in, you would have to send in not only the bombers and the fighters but you'd also have to send in the jammers to make sure those russian air defense systems, which are pretty prevalent across syria, don't get turned on. >> david, what are your thoughts with regard to this warning in. >> this is really fascinating. this is 180 degrees opposed to how president trump as a candidate said he'd conduct u.s. foreign policy. he was critical of past republicans for being foo to active in the middle east and too active in trying to be the dominant power in the middle east. he talked about defeating isis,
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he talked about being more aggressive militarily, to handle our enemies, but similar to president obama, he talked about taking a lighter approach and not getting as involved, and what we have here is an administration now that not just sort of reasserting american influence in the middle east in terms of our actions, but if you look at the warning that came from secretary -- from ambassador hayley saying to iran and russia, this includes you, this is an interesting dichot y dichotomy, the president coddling vladimir putin and russia but his top lieutenants and advisers sending a mess age we're not putting up with intransigents in this region where russia has been competing with us and trying to push assad. so to me, that's what's most interesting about the threatened strike and it could be a message to russia, in a sense, seeing what they plan to do about something to avoid action by us
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and a certain sense back over the region where iran has been moving in and russia has been tanning pat in syria. >> chris, you see a fairly stark plus/minus general, but on the plus side you come out early and say if you cross this line, you are in trouble. maybe assad thinks better of whatever u.s. intelligence suggests you do. >> two things, first. i think that so much of what donald trump does, what motivates him, is less policy conviction than do, undo, or do things related to barack obama, particularly as it relates to the red line, obviously donald trump viewed that and many republicans viewed it as sort of
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the inefficacy, easy for me to say, of barack obama's foreign policy. he'd say things and not follow up. the strikes in syria done earlier this year donald trump viewed as a way to say see, i'm not that guy. i think this is a way to say i'm not going to be that guy, so be under no illusion. the thing that is hard, and the trump administration does this in both foreign and domestic policy and the general mentioned this is there's not a lot of context or case here. it sort of comes out of nowhere. it's on a monday night. you don't have a coordinated response. there's a little bit of confusion as to what specifically is the threat here? there's a little bit of confusion this is a president who said we shouldn't warn of our tactics, we shouldn't reveal our tactics. so they do a lot of things in which they just act and it's not clear that the case behind it has been made.
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that said, i do think that donald trump wants the world to know, and david touched on this, wants the world to know there is a different sheriff in town, that in his view barack obama's threats were largely meaningless to the world and wants the world to know his threats will not be, i think broadly speaking this is in keeping with that. >> general, when you look at this, this is something that clearly and we're going to learn mo are about this today sends a message, ultimately whatever the president does. do you see it as a data point on this question of what is the trump doctrine? >> it is a data point on that, brianna and also a data point on the trump strategy for the middle east but what is the data point for the trump strategy according to the world. we can't take this part of the middle east in a vacuum with the players involved. there are things going on in europe, in ukraine, where russia is involved, where russia has
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given some warnings to the united states about what they will and will not accept. if we're going to draw the line and then react to it, okay, that's good with you let's have a strategy for what the end state is and further what chris said, yes, it was announced late last night and that was about 6:00 in syria, 6:00 a.m. in syria, so they now have had an entire day to think about it while we're just beginning to talk about it on the east coast. >> general, thank you so much. we're going to learn more. stay tuned to are that. president trump is hailing the supreme court's travel ban decision calling it a clear victory, but is this celebration premature? we'll have a live report from the white house, next. ♪
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halted travel ban, and agreed to hear full arguments on this case in the fall. joe johns is live at the white house with more. usually the supreme court comes out with a paragraph explaining their orders. this time it was about 16 pages, joe. >> reporter: certainly was, chris. it was a lot more and the takeaway from this decision of the supreme court is, if you're an international traveler from one of the targeted muslim countries, and you have a bona fide connection to the united states, you can get in. otherwise, you can be turned around. it's only a temporary decision, because the court is going to hear the full case in the fall. now, the tickaway from the president of the united states in a statement calling this a clear victory for national security saying "as president, i cannot allow people into our country who want to do us harm. i want people who can love the united states and all its citizens and who will be hard-working and productive."
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the larry smith tweeted last night calling it a great day for security courtesy of the united states supreme court. even if the order partially put into effect is something he called politically incorrect and watered down. over the last 24 hours, however, the most notable news from the president of the united states has been his tweets attacking democrats and the president, the former president obama for their role in the russia investigation. otherwise, the white house has been muted in some of its responses. the president going so far as to not answer questions during a joint appearance with prime minister modi of india. back to you. >> joe johns, thank you. we'll be talking about that series of tweets as well and also how does the rest of the world view the u.s. under
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president trump clearly does not like political implications of the russia investigation and going at it overall once when it on twitter slamming his predecessor for doing nothing about russian hacks which is not true factually. new poll shows how the u.s. is seen by the world under president trump. let's get back our panel here. let's get chris cillizza, drucker and ka ruin dermijian. pew international, 37 countries, 22% have confidence in trump, what was obama's number, 64%. 49% have favorable views of the u.s. under trump versus 64% under obama. more trust in putin than in trump, let's start with that as a headline, karoun dermijian, dismissed as a poll, only worth
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the paper it's printed on or do you believe it speaks to a valuable insight? >> it's a surprising last point, more trust in putin than in trump. it goes to just the impressions basically of what people are seeing as they're looking at the this whole affair, and you do have to wonder, if this is due to fact that the president's line about these things keeps changing. look, we're talking about different countries with different populations and that affects how their relationship is with the press, their relationship with the public and that all goes into the impression people have of a leader both in their home audience and abroad, but the president has been dealing with this whole affair in fits and starts, sometimes contradicting himself and sometimes being vindicated but more oftentimes being in a situation where people are questioning what he did and what he's doing in the day-to-day to hand tell, and that has potentially led to this result. >> david, i suspect if you asked donald trump supporters about
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this poll, and you even say -- >> fake news. >> but wouldn't they say, who cares? do we want other people in the world to like us this? this isn't a popularity contest. >> i think they would not trust the poll. >> they wouldn't trust it. >> a talked to a lot of donald trump supporters. i want to know how they're thinking because their vote matters and they don't trust criticism of the president. they think it's manufactured or out of context. i think these numbers are interesting, and i think a lot of it has to do with how the president talks and conducts himself versus in many ways the actions of his foreign policy team which is a very top notch foreign policy team. the president gets into twitter spats with the mayor of london after a devastating terrorist attack there. he jawbones our allies, criticizes them, while coddling vladimir putin, a major adverse sear of ours and i think that leaves a lot of countries around the world, particularly countries friendly to us and welcome more aggressive leadership by the united states
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around the world unhappy with us and not knowing if they can depend upon us. i think the argument that president trump got into with south korea some weeks back is very telling. we're in the middle of trying to box in north korea, there's a very contentious election in south korea and the president's talking about canceling a missile shield after a previous agreement is made. his team tries to clean it up and says no, he didn't mean that, don't worry, we're with you. trump says what are you talking about? i met what i said. maybe we're going to yank this thing. that kind of inconsistent leadership where your allies and adversaries don't know if you're coming or going makes trump feel as though he's keeping everybody guessing, on their owes and he thinks that is more effective but actually if you want to prevent adversaries from doing things we don't want them to do, if we want our allies with us in fights, they need to know where we stand and that we're consistent and can count on us. they don't have that with trump. one of the reasons putin is doing so well in this poll -- >> he's not doing that well, he's at 27, okay?
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>> it's not an awesome number. but doing better. >> trusted more than trump is because people know where he stands. thanks for correcting how i phrased that but people know where he stands. >> right. >> or worse mostly but they can depend on it. >> 27, 22, that's a race that the president should win at some point. anybody who knows him as a man, chris cillizza, donald trump needs to be respected. he cares about what the world view is of him, not just because of responsibility and import of his office, but as a man, he wants to be respected, and that's why the attacking of the predecessor is so interesting to me. >> yep. >> they must believe in there, right up to the main man himself, the president of the united states, bashing obama makes us look good, even on this russian investigation. i'll even talk about something that i think every time it comes up is bad for me, which clearly the president believes, even about the interference, because i think it's even worse for obama. >> so i think he has -- first of
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all, chris, the fundamental thing to understand about donald trump psychologically, you look ate his whole life he viewed himself as on the outside looking in. father was a developer in queens, not in manhattan. he goes into manhattan but not accepted by the big developers, the big money in manhattan. he has to start his own golf clubs because the exclusive golf clubs don't want him. he comes to washington in 2011, the washington folks laugh at him because of the idea he might run for president. so everything is motivated by that sort of face pressed against its glass, i'll show them mentality. i think, so there's a desire to be liked and to be respected. i think the way that he views this particularly as it relates to the world and this is true in this business, the way you get respect is through strength, through unapologetic strength and that barack obama didn't do that. and that donald trump will, that he will go out, he will be
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tough, he will be unapologetic. he will tell the world how it is and frankly, and brianna was touching on this, if you tell a trump supporter about this poll, david's right, many of them will disbelieve it, but say they believe it, they'd be thrilled. they don't care that he's not popular in france. you think that's -- that's great. why should he be popular in france? look at france, this he don't share our values. it's not make france great again. it's make america great again. i'm not sure that's all that concerning to him even though maybe it should be how it relates to how we're looked at in the world. >> panel appreciate it, pithy insights. remembering the fallen, seven sailors lost their lives when that navy destroyer collided with the merchant ship. we still don't really understand what happened there but we do know we need to honor their memories. there is a ceremony and details, next. (dog) mmm. this new
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you need to consider the source on this next story, but the report is that north korea is comparing president trump to adolph hitler. north korean state media, which is just what it sounds like, an instrument of the regime there, describing the president's america first policy as naziism in the 21st century, the tough talk comes days after american student otto warmbier died, following 17 months of detention in north korea. many call his death a homicide, caused by some action in north korea. expanded sanctions are expected against pyongyang over a series of missile tests in addition. the u.s. navy is holding a memorial service for the seven sailors killed when the "uss fitzgerald" collided with a containership off japan's coast
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earlier this month. the ceremony was held in japan where the "jits ferld" is based and more than 2,000 sailors and their families atended opinion an investigation is under way into what led to the deadly crash. we said bad weather to keep track of, severe storms are going to pound the central u.s. what could it mean? cnn meteorologist chad myers, what do you see, my friend? >> i see hail, damaging winds and also the potential for tornadoes across the upper midwest. this weather is brought to you by purina, your pet, our passion. so the weather this morning is in the northeast, in fact, a little round of showers just moved through new york city and we'll see some storms upstate today but that's not the weather we're concerned about. it's there, nebraska, kansas, south dakota, all the way through colorado, that's where the storm coming out of montana this morning will be this afternoon. the storms are always billinger in the afternoon because the sun heats the ground and the air wants to rise like a hot air balloon and that's how you get the bigger storms. that's the area of severe weather to are today. the biggest threat damaging
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hail, big enough to damage your car for sure. make sure you, your pets, the farm, everything, protected out there in the midwest. brianna? >> take cover. chad myers, thank you so much. the supreme court agreeing to hear arguments on the president's travel ban this fall. is this a victory for the president? we're going to dig deeper, ahead. your only worry... will be navigating the local traffic. get help with hotels, free twenty-four-hour flight changes, and our price match guarantee. travelocity.® wander wisely.™
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donald trump's controversial travel ban is headed for the supreme court. they agreed to hear it in full
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in the fall. but the highest court did already reinstate parts of the halted ban. announcing those parts will go forward and they put in their own test how to qualify people for entry into this country. joining me is jeffrey toobin, and as much as i love to have you on the show for any reason. >> yes, sir. >> i actually need you this morning. >> yes, sir. >> usually their orders are like paragraph, final word. it's like 16 pages. i've been through it. it seems very complex for the court in a situation like this. how do you see it? what happened? >> well, this was clearly a compromise within the court, and about the issue as a whole, but i think it's important to emphasize that all nine justices, liberals and conservatives alike some of the travel ban reinstated and that's a victory for donald trump and his administration.
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they didn't prohibit the people who had some contacts with the united states, the people who had job offers here, close family members here, if they're admitted students here, they will still be allowed to come from those six countries. >> they say students with acceptance, workers with jobs, speakers who are invited but then there was this catch-all, bona fide as we would say, bona fide relationships they can show credible proof of. what does that mean? >> well, i don't think it's all that complicated. i think it means people who have relationships here, people who have families. >> they didn't say "family" thro though. >> immigration authorities are used to making value judgments. this is not something new to the immigration -- this is not something that consular officials have made before. remember, talking about six countries that don't have a lot of immigration to the united states as it is, so you're not talking about thousands of
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people. there will be some judgment calls and i expect some people will go to court because they're not happy with the decision, but i also think that this is a reasonable compromise for the court to engage in, as they await whether deciding to hear the case. another point to consider is that this order, the executive order, we don't talk about this a lot, is that it was meant to be a pause for 190 days. those 90 days will be up before the supreme court hears this case. it will be entirely possible the supreme court will say this is moot. the 90 days is passed. we'll wait for the trump administration to pass a new order based on its investigation. >> what if they don't? what if there is no additional executive order and which they very well could do says we've taken the 90 days and filgd out new procedures and going to
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permanently install these rules. >> then the court has two choices. one is they send the whole thing back to the district court to be litigated again, with a permanent rule, or they simply decide the case. they simply say whether this is a legitimate use of the president's power. and by the way, i just think, you know, the supreme court has always been receptive to claims of national security, claims of executive authority than the fourth circuit and the ninth circuit which decided this case. i've always thought, and yesterday's order is indicative of this, that the trump administration is in better shape in the supreme court than they are in -- >> i'm surprised they didn't win outright. >> he may yet. >> given what the court's history is, in this regard on this issue, as you point out. another thing, switch hats for a second and put on a political hat. why is this being declared a victory given what we're saying right now? they were always on pretty good legal ground. he screwed it up in the first order in terms of hyperextending
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what would have been the traditional purview of the president. politically, even if it is proven that he has a right to do this, that doesn't make it true that it is right. this doesn't mean that he is articulated a real national threat. has doesn't mean that he's really keeping us safe from the people we need to worry about most. >> to answer your question politically, i think when the supreme court says you can do much of what you wanted to do, that's both a legal and political victory especially since you've been slapped around by the court so much. i don't think there is any doubt this is a political and legal victory for the president. >> the baker case, the baker who doesn't want to make the case for same-sex couples saying it's a violation of thateir religiou liberty. expected issues in. >> it's a tough case. as always it's about competing issues, competing values. is the ban on -- is this like
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where a baker says you know what? i will not bake a cake for an interracial marriage. i will not bake a cake for a mixed religion marriage. >> could a baker do that? >> i don't think so. not under current laws. >> why not? >> anti-discrimination laws have been interpreted, you don't have the right to discriminate on the basis of race, even for religious purposes. there were a lot of cases about that when the civil rights act passed in the '60s, people said i have a religious objection to the mixing of the races and the courts said in effect too bad. >> if you're going to have this baking just like anything else you have to follow the law. >> if you're open to the public, you have to admit the public, but the question is, is gay rights in the same category or do people's religious objections to same-sex marriages qualify differently than racial
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intermarriage cases, and i think it's -- i don't know how the court is going to come out. gorsuch is proving to be clarence thomas-like in his conservatism, very conservative across the board. he voted in 15 cases, the only justice he's voted with in all 15 cases is clarence thomas. >> the democrats said he may need congenal but what will he be getting inside the room, we're seeing now. jeffrey toobin perfect as always. and to you our international viewers, thank you for watching. for you, "cnn newsroom" will be next. for our u.s. viewers we have a big day in a battle over health care. this cbo score, what this bill means for families like yours is going to make a difference. what do you say? let's get to it. >> this cbo report should be the end of the road for trumpcare. >> we are no longer forcing someone by a policy that they don't want. >> if you're on the fence i'm mott so sure this report helps you much. >> he wants a bill that has heart, wants to make sure people have access and that it's
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affordable. >> these are our families that are being impacted, so let's please get it right. >> the trump administration says syria could be preparing another chemical attack. >> it's a very ominous statement but very much a red line. >> when you kill innocent children, innocent babies, that crosses many, many lines. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo, and alisyn camerota. >> good morning. welcome to your "new day." alisyn is off. brianna keilar by my side. >> good to be here. >> first up, republican leaders in the senate facing the prospect their health care bill could be on the brink of defeat. you have a lot of republican senators don't even want to debate it yet. why? well, most recently the congressional budget office weighed in and they show the impact of the senate version is just about as dangerous as the house version. so what's the response from the white house? well, of course to blast the bases of criticism


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