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41 million seniors cannot negotiate for lower prescription drug prices. let's let them do that. we'll see lower prices. >> senator klobuchar, thank you very much. and that's it for the lead, i'm pamela brown in for jake tapper. i turn you over to jim sciutto in for wolf blitzer in the situation room. happening now, breaking news. violent clashes, riot police battle anti-globalization protesters as thousands take to the streets boozing the g20 summit in germany where president trump is holding high stakes meetings with world leaders. once again openly questions the u.s. intelligence community which concluded with confidence that putin directed the attack on u.s. democracy.
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the meeting will be small in size. the two leaders joined only by secretary of state tillerson and russia's foreign minister and interpreters. why is there only a few pages of paper? and no red line. the president answers north korea's nut missile launch with big threats, saying he's weighing a severe response distressing that he doesn't draw red lines. why not? wolf blitzer off today, i'm jim sciutto, and you're in the situation room. this is cnn breaking news. >> the breaking news, riot police use water cannons and pepper spray against protesters hurling rocks and smoke bombs as thousands take to the streets in hamburg, germany, scene of the g20 summit. the clashes taking place as president trump meets with world leaders ahead of the main event
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of his overseas trip. face to face meeting with russia's vladimir putin. the president sat down with the g20 host angela merck who will differs with him sharply on climate change, trade, and more. at this meeting, they did manage a public handshake. president met with leaders of south korea and japan as well after he delivered vague threats to north korea in response to kim jong-un's firing of a brand new long range missile. the president called that very, very dangerous. saying he's considering, quote, some pretty severe things, but he added, that doesn't mean we're going to do them. the president began the day in poland, reaffirming the u.s. commitment to nato when which he failed to do on his previous european visit. he criticized russia for destabilizing activities in ukraine, but refused to blame russia for meddling, saying no one really knows for sure. and while standing on foreign soil, the president slammed u.s. intelligence, the
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media, as well as former president obama. i'll talk with mike quigley of the intelligence committee as well as our correspondent, specialists, and guests standing by with full coverage of day's top stories. we begin with our breaking news, police clashing with protesters as president trump and other world leaders gather for the g20 summit in humburg, germany. senior white house correspondent, jim acosta is in hamburg with the president. bigger day tomorrow, jim. >> reporter: that's right, jim, right now live pictures of what's happening here on the streets of hamburg this evening. some clashes with police earlier today between anti. capitalist protesters and the riot police you mentioned. bottles were thrown. the police responded with their own show of force. as you can see in the live pictures, there is still a presence on the street tonight by these protesters. as you mention, jim, that's right, tomorrow the eyes of the world will be on this meeting
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between president trump and vladimir putin, officials tell cnn it is expected to be a very small crowd in the room just the two leaders as well as secretary of state rex tillerson and the russian counterpart lavrov. he offered putin something of a gift, expressing doubts once again about the u.s. intelligence community clear assessment that russia interfered in the election. and the news conference in warsaw earlier today, the president essentially said the jury is still out when it's really not. here's what he had to say. >> well, i think it was russia, and i think it could have been other people in other countries. could have been a lot of people interfered. i've said it very simply, i think it could very well have been russia, but i think it could well have been other countries, and i won't be specific. i think it was russia, but i think it was probably other people and/or countries, and i see nothing wrong with that statement. i remember when i was sitting back listening about iraq,
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weapons of mass destruction. how everybody was 100% sure that iraq had weapons of mass destruction, guess what? that led to one big mess. they were wrong. and it led to a mess. so, it was russia, and i think it was probably others also, and that's been going on for a long period of time, but my big question is, why did obama do nothing about it from august, all the way to november 8th? he did nothing about it and it wasn't because he choked. >> reporter: now as you point out, some democrats believe that president obama and the obama administration did not do enough to confront vladimir putin, president obama did confront putin at a g20 summit in china in september of last year, and we should also point out, a senate hearing in may, six intelligence agency heads said, at this hearing, they believe russia meddled in the election. as for this meeting tomorrow,
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jim, we should point out, senior administration official said it's believed this is the president's first face to face encounter with vladimir putin before he was elected, mr. trump has given a range of answers on that question, claiming in the past that he had a relationship with putin, and then later saying, he did not, jim. >> now, he had somewhat mixed message on hacking, but earlier in the day, the president was tougher on moscow with regards to ukraine. >> reporter: that's right, despite his answering on russian meddling, the president offered some encouraging words to u.s. allies in europe in a speech to the polish people earlier today. he took russia to task over it's actions in ukraine and syria, and here's more of what the president had to say in that speech. >> we urge russia to cease it's destabilizing activities in ukraine, and elsewhere, and it's support and defense of the
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civilization itself. an attack on one is an attack on all. this is something he declined to do on his first foreign trip. it's not cleerl as for that meeting with president putin tomorrow how much time the president will have to tackle all of these subjects. there are many, jim, but they are scheduled to meet these two leaders are for less than an hour tomorrow here in hamburg, and you might have been able to hear behind me during this live report, the police sirens are still blaring. they're still dealing with those protesters here in hamburg tonight, jim. >> jim traveling with the president, president trump today had harsh words and vailed threats for north korea as the u.s. looks for the right response to kim jong-un's test of a new long range missile. let's turn to michelle kaczynski. did the president, michelle,
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give any clues as to exactly what kind of action he may take? >> what he did was put that threat out there once again. that something will have to be done. that we're thinking about severe options. this seems like every time we hear from the administration, they're stepping up the language a notch, but among the many unknowns, of course, what affects this could have on the north korean regime. >> reporter: the president today in europe, facing the intensifying threat from north korea. >> it's a shame that they're behaving this way, but they are behaving in a very, very dangerous manner. and something will have to be done about it. >> reporter: tough talk, but vague talk. he says, intentionally. >> i don't like to talk about what i have planned. but i have some pretty severe things that we're thinking about, that doesn't mean we're going to do them, i don't draw red lines.
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>> reporter: but u.s. defense secretary james mattis was quick to assert today that north korea's launch of a brand new ballistic missile this week does not bring the u.s. any closer to war. he insists the focus is still diplomacy, that's just a day after u.s. ambassador to the u.n. nick kentucky haley raised the spector of force. >> time is short, action is required. the world is on notice. one of our capabilities lies with our considerable military forces. >> there have to be severe things, we don't have very much time to figure this out. the north koreans within a year may be 18 months will be able to position a nuke on top of an intercontinental ballistic missile and hold the u.s. to ransom. >> reporter: and there have been concerned about missile defense capabilities. the new thad system in south korea is working, but as for defending u.s. soil from a long range missile, the system's in place failed three of the last four tests. but after a significant upgrade,
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the last one went well. pentagon source telling cnn, missile defense was designed to defend against a rogue missile, not a full scale attack. for now, at least, north korea's ability to strike the united states is hardly ready for prime time. it's technology, rouudimentary. finding a diplomatic solution now is just as u.s. has demande. >> the record has shown in the five years he's been in power, they have no interest in sitting down with anybody right now. they're not going to come back unless they feel some sort of pressure coming from sanctions. >> reporter: and there was plenty of agreement out there that china is key here. since it accounts for about 90% of trade with north korea, it
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could really tighten the screws, but at least for now, they clearly don't want to do that, in fact yesterday at the u.n., they were closely aligned with rush which was saying that sanctions just don't work, but they, and other countries, that continue to do business could soon find themselves sanctioned by the u.s., and soon. >> that would be a remarkable step, no question, michelle kaczynski, thanks very much. joining me now, member of the house intelligence committee, democratic congressman mike quigley of illinois, thanks for taking the time today. >> thank you. >> congressman, of course you serve on the house intelligence committee, you've been briefed multiple times on russian interference in the 2016 election, you hear president trump today, once again, cast doubt on the assessment that russia was behind the election meddling. i wonder, and you of course sit on your committee with republican colleagues, do you or your republican colleagues have any doubts that russia and putin
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specifically directed these attacks? >> i have no one i'm aware of that has any doubts that russia directed the attacks. i believe it's unanimous among the intelligence community. i don't know of any republicans on the committee that doubt this, i mean, they may exist, but i certainly haven't heard from them. the problem with this is many, first as an opportunity this week to tell president putin you did this and it won't be tolerated. if he doesn't do that, it sends a message to, i think mr. putin, that there's a green light to continue this. we just had trey johnson talk to us about how we have to harden our defenses against future attacks on our democratic system. the commander in chief isn't willing to acknowledge the threat and where it came from, it makes those defenses so much harder. >> and make clear to our viewers, because we've had discussions about this before, in fact, there is evidence that russian-based hackers continue
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to probe u.s. election systems, political parties, et cetera, perhaps is it your concern that they are setting up for further attacks against u.s. elections in 2018 and 2020? >> you know, if anything, what '16 could have been was a foray into the system to see exactly what they could do. maybe just to discredit the process. what concerns me is that they learned something. we have to remember one of the last things director comey said before he was fired was, they'll be back. >> no question. and possibly he said attacking republicans and democrats. cnn's confirmed looking ahead to tomorrow's meeting between trump and putin which you mentioned, very small group in the room, limited to president trump, secretary of state tillerson, along with translators as well. considering, at least in the past, that the warm relationship you've seen between both trump and tillerson and putin, does it concern you that that's the small group that's in there?
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there aren't diplomats in the room as well. >> you know, it concerns me, but it doesn't matter how many people are in the room as much as it matters that the right things are said. reaffirming nato and article v, talking about russian hacking and the fact we're not going to tolerate it, trying to get on the same page about syria and dealing with isis, telling putin he should stop trading with north korea, letting him know that hey, we're there in the g20, we're going to be getting a multinational effort to sanction north korea and if those, if there are countries that don't participate, the rest of the world will sanction them as well or keep them out of their trade agreements. >> we should note that president trump did say in a speech today that russia must stop it's quote, destabilizing activities in ukraine as well as it's support for hostile regimes. so quite strong words from the
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president regarding russian activity in ukraine and elsewhere, valuable message, important message in your view? >> absolutely. it would have helped a great deal if he would have added that sanctions will be maintained and perhaps increased if russia isn't willing to cooperate. as you acknowledge, he talks about other places. eastern europe is literally in georgia with a congressional delegation as we are watching evidence of the russians moving the board herb fences in the middle of the night. so there's clearly a need for action by the commander and chief, he, i think, can have a strong and influence on putin as anyone in the world. he has the opportunity this week. >> the house intelligence committee's investigation of both russian meddling and other russia-related issues continues, your committee has begun to interview witnesses. it's been collecting and reviewing an enormous number of
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documents, i know that much of this is classified, i just to want ask you this, as you the continue to probe, what are you learning, are you learning more and are you finding things that encourage you to continue this investigation? >> i think if any american, democrat or republican had read what we had read, heard what we had heard, you'd want us to go full throttle. it could very easily could have been attacks on republicans in another previous decade or in a future decade. the democratic process matters to everyone. you know, we're going to take our time, follow the facts wherever they take us, we all have a responsibility to do this on a bipartisan basis. american public has a right to know, our very democratic process was attacked, it was threatened, that will continue unless we found out exactly what happened and how to prevent it. >> we're going to have the opportunity in a short time to speak with former director of
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our breaking news, just moments ago, riot police battled protesters as president trump meets with world leaders gathered for the g20 summit in germany. ahead, the president's crucial meeting with russian president vladimir putin. back now with democratic
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congressman mike quigley of the intelligence committee. congressman quigley, president trump said that he does not draw red lines, but on january 2nd, not long before his inauguration, he tweeted the following. north korea just stated that it is in the final stages of developing a nuclear weapon capable of reaching parts of the u.s. it won't happen, exclamation point. did president trump draw a red line in your view with that tweet? >> it sounds like it, but i think that after working with this administration for seven or eight months now, i'm not sure i take any credence in what the president tweets on any given day. i mean, i understand the frustration in dealing with north korea, and in fact with china and russia as it relates to north korea, we have to do what's right. we have to protect our allies with the missile defense system in the south, help japan as well. deal with our own missile defense system, but most important, we need to build a
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multinational effort to move north korea away from this kind of activity. >> tell me what that effort looks like, because to be fair, the obama administration didn't have many good options, nor did the bush administration before or the clinton administration. they tried talking, they tried military pressure, et cetera, does the u.s. actually have a realistic option for preventing or stopping further progress in north korea's nuclear program? >> look, you have to keep trying. i recognize we've been doing this since, you know, the violence seeded in the early '50s there've been problems with north korea. there've been talks for decades now about a strategic military strike. certainly not something that's going to work well for south koreans or japan. thousands of pieces of artillery are aimed at the south right now. we have tens of thousands of troops there that are clearly on the front line. so, you have to continue to
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diplomacy, despite the frustrations that are existing in the past. i think at this point in time, we have to ratchet up those efforts in beijing and moscow. >> congressman mike quigley, thanks for joining us today. >> thank you. take care. and we continue to follow this hour's breaking news, protesters and police confront each other in the streets of hamburg, germany, just hours before president trump sits down to leaders of the world's economic powers and as well tomorrow with vladimir putin. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare? that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you.
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we're following breaking news, police using water cannons, battling protesters who are now lighting fires on the streets of hamburg, germany. the clashes which have been going on for several hours now come as president trump and leaders of the world's economic powers gather for the g20 summit. let's get now the insights of our specialists, i want to begin here, we heard the president today, repeat his doubts really about who was behind the election meddling, he said, i think it was russia, and then he said, no one really knows. i wonder how vladimir putin reads that. and perhaps takes advantage of a u.s. president who is doubting the judgment of his own intelligence agencies. >> yeah, i would imagine vladimir putin was very satisfied after hearing that speech. remember, vladimir putin has gone out and all but confirmed that it was russia behind the hacking. remember he called them patriotic hackers. vladimir putin has done his
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homework, who knows, maybe he's read of the art of the deal in russian. he wants to present to the president. he's going to talk about the history of ukraine, if that topic does come up. he's going to talk about crimea and it's history with the russians as well. his last meeting with president obama was two hours. we know this meeting is expected to be some 30 minutes, other than that, when it comes to syria, i think we heard from secretary of state tillerson. sort of confirming that there are areas of agreement in advance of this meeting with so-called safe zones and what really surprised me was that, the president trump was denigrating his own intelligence agencies overseas. that is something that is out of president putin's playbook when it comes to questioning wmd in iraq, that's something that he said in the past.
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>> also calling out russia for it's actions in ukraine, syria, why the toughness there, but not the willingness to confront russia when it comes to election meddling? >> good question, jim. look, the comments about russia and election meddling came in poland as part of a press conference there with the polish president. the speech that trump gave after that press conference had a little bit of the affirmation of sort of western democracies against autocrats, the tough talk at some level directed toward russia. so, it's the difference between donald trump off the cuff and donald trump scripted. i think, you know, look, this was -- i actually thought donald trump's speech in poland, which
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got less press certainly because it's his own fault there, got less press than his press conference, was relatively well-crafted and well-delivered. sort of a speech called arms western democracies, what we have in common, what makes democracy so unique, so special in the world worth fighting for. delivered and i thought eloquent terms. the problems for donald trump is as you point out, gym, contradicted somewhat by what he said earlier, and what he had said earlier, much more inflammatory, sitting president in the united states on foreign soil using it as an opportunity to deliver invectives he delivered on the campaign, media is bad, maybe russia did it, who knows, lots of people meddle in elections. not the stuff we expect from a president, proving yet again, donald trump's biggest enemy is the so-called fake news media, it's the fact that it's donald trump. donald trump is donald trump's biggest enemy. has been since the day he was
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sworn in as president. >> phil, let's talk about how sprump preparing for his meeting with putin. how his advisors are preparing him. white house officials have given him very concise materials, a few pages with one or two senates talking points. why that strategy, do you think? >> because the president doesn't like to read, and we've heard this from day one. he said this from day one, i think this is the challenge going into these talks. let me give you an example. if you're a typical president going into these talks, you mention safe zones in syria. that's not a high level issue. you can have an agreement in a few minutes with vladimir putin, let's talk about this, but if you want to get into that issue seriously on safe zones in syria, you have to get into questions like how do you identify, for example, whether terrorists are using those safe zones, whether american-backed rebels are using those safe zones and therefore the syrians want to bomb them. that's a lot of detail work, i don't think the president wants to do that detail work, and i
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don't think his staff wants it getting there. i think they want him at the level saying do you want to have a quick chat with putin saying hey, let's let our guys talk about syria, get back to us on safe zones and the president doesn't get into that detail. he doesn't do detail. >> as a follow, putin does do detail by all accounts, former kgb agent, how is he preparing to meet the president? >> i think what you're looking at in this circumstance is, he's looking at the areas that russians have already discussed with tillerson and other u.s. representatives. including areas related to the wake board in syria, and he's determining in my judgment whether he can get a high level agreement where the president says yeah, that sounds great, not knowing what the lower level details are, putin says we agree to this, and when the real worker bees get to the table and start talking about details, they realize from the american side that they just got boxed in by the president. i'm not worried about the high level agreement. i'm worried that the russians are going to play us by coming
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up with a one sentence agreement where when we work it out we realize that their interpretation of that one sentence uttered by the president putin in our sbepgs is fundamentally different. that's where i think the president will get worked. >> by the way, jim, just very quickly, sorry, just quickly, one point to add to phil's exactly right on point is, donald trump got elected in a lot of ways because he didn't have any experience. he didn't have elected off his experience. first person to be president not to have either of those. but putin has been at this a long time. putin does know exactly sort of both the stage craft and the policy craft at work here, trump not so much. so, the inexperience was a huge asset for him in a political context, but in a governing context, it at least exposes him to the possibility of being taken advantage in a sit-down like this with someone whose been at it for a long time. sorry about that. >> i was just going to say, putin's going to play this as a
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win-win. best case, they come out with a deal. worst case scenario, they don't, and putin can go home and say, listen, president trump is so weak, his hands are so tied, given all the rhetoric, and the phobia back at home there's nothing he can do right now, but it's a win for him in the way he's playing it in the simple fact they're getting a bilateral meeting tomorrow and they're meeting at all, given what's happening in ukraine. >> okay. listen, everybody stand by, we're going to have more time. we'll be right back with our specialists. ♪
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back now with our specialist as we watch our clashes between police and protesters who are lighting fires now on the streets of hamburg, germany. this is where president trump and world leaders are gathering for their international economic summit there. phil, as we turn to north korea now, i want to begin with you, listen to president trump's warning to the kim jong-un regime today. >> as far as north korea's concerned, i don't know, we'll see what happens. i don't like to talk about what i have planned. but i have some pretty severe things that we're thinking about. that doesn't mean we're going to do them. i don't draw red lines. >> help me interpret what the president was saying there. pretty severe things that we are thinking about, doesn't mean we're going to do them, explain, explain the message he's trying to send there. >> he's trying to send a warning to north korea, but i mean truth is the only -- in washington is on permanent vacation.
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the truth is we don't have many options here. let's cut to the chase. the president can't put forth some opportunities that are eye candy. you can have military exercises, you can send the navy out there. but if you're going to disrupt a long-term ballistic missile program and a long-term nuclear program, remember, that's not just pieces of equipment, that's scientific and engineering expertise that lies in the head of people, that's a long-term military engagement that includes conventional forces in north korea. the real message here that the president doesn't to want send, and he shouldn't send it is that north korea if it chooses to go down this path will do it unless we have a major military engagement that involves forces. nobody's going to do that. we'll see a nuclear power. that's it, jim, that's the story. >> i wonder if you agree, north korea said it's nuclear program is non-negotiable, that's true, correct? >> it is true. experts are surprised they've been able to develop the program
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as quickly as they have. some say within a year they could have their hands on a nuclear bomb. and you look at what's played out now in the region, you have russia and china saying, listen, i think we have a solution in the sense that we can possibly get the north to freeze their nuclear program, but that means sort of deescalating and withdrawing u.s. and south korean involvement in the region, the u.s. and south koreans are not going to accept that bargain and that plan, and you also have japan in the fray as well. so given theened that he was dealt, jim jong-un has navigated this and dividing three or four different regional powers into how they will address this issue. and who is going to be the one that ends up tackling it? >> chris, before go, i thought it was notable today that the defense secretary james mattis made a point of saying in public that the icbm capability of north korea does not bring the u.s. and north korea closer to war. it seemed like he was
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deliberately trying to ratchet down the rhetoric, even perhaps the president's rhetoric. >> i think that's right, jim, and i would remind anyone watching, one of the lesson wes learned from the campaign is the best way to communicate with donald trump if you work with him is to go either make a public statement or go on tv and say something. because that often is more effective than being in a room and saying, mr. president, i think we need to ratchet this down. i think that's a clear attempt by mattis to deescalate some of the sort of more threatening language trump has been putting out in the wake of that icbm launch. >> chris, guys, thanks very much. we're following the breaking news still protesters and police in the streets as president trump prepares for the global economic summit and his high stakes meeting tomorrow with vladimir putin. we'll get the insights of republican congress adam kinzinger. stay with us. when heartburn hits fight back fast with new tums chewy bites.
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breaking news continuing clashes between police and protesters ahead of the g20 summit meeting of the world's economic powers. president trump is there, he will meet with russian president vladimir putin tomorrow. with us now, republican congressman adam kinzinger of illinois. he's the u.s. military veteran, thank you, congressman for joining us. i want to give ewe chance to listen to comments from president trump, and the russian president on election hacking. have a listen. >> well, i think it was russia. and i think it could have been other people in other countries. could have been a lot of people interfered. i've said it very simply, i think it could very well have been russia,
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i think a laut of people interfere. i think it has been happening for a long time. >> hackers can be anywhere. they can be in russia, in asia, even in america, latin america. they can even be hackers in the united states who very skillfully and professionally shifted the blame, as we say, on to russia. could you accept that? >> does it alarm you to hear the russian and american presidents on message, in effect, undermining the intelligence community's assessment that russia directed this hacking? >> it's alarming. i think the president got it half right. he said it is russia. i don't understand the comments about it could be other countries or other individualsism i'm not sure about that. as far as we have seen so far that is a good start. i think part of it is president trump and there are people that are trying to delegitimize the
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presidency of trump because of this issue. it is not to delegitimize the president but this is about defending the institution of democracy because of people whose faith in ability to cast the vote. you see the break down of institutions and faith. >> you are a veteran. you served your country overseas. you have many intelligence professionals doing the same thing. you heard the president again not the first time cast doubt on the very credibility of the u.s. intelligence community. why -- isn't that damaging? >> i think it is damaging to do it. it is especially damaging to do it. i have been just as critical of the prior administration when they did it. it is extremely damaging to air something like that when you are overseas. we have to get back. i am desperately saying this to
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everybody. we have to get back to politics. i think it is wrong for the prior administration when president obama did it. it is wrong for president trump to air things like what happened in iraq in front of foreign audiences. i think he could have a very good trip here. i think the meeting with president putin could be good and lead to some things. let's start standing together with our intelligence professionals because it has an impact when our allize are listening to the people who share intelligence. >> you mentioned the meeting between trump and putin. the wall street journal today calling it trump's putin test saying the russians will interpret concessions as a sign of weakness. are you concerned that president trump will go into that room with talk of these compounds that were taken away from russia in the transition period in reaction to election meddling. are you concerned that trump
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will go in there and concede something and not be tough enough in effect on the russian leader? >> that would be my concern no matter who is president. what we have learned from vladimir putin and the russians is that they will continue to take -- it was similar to when we gave up missile defense shield in europe. we never got anything in concession. you have to deal with president putin as he is. he respects power. he respects strength. he will back down when presented a brick wall that he cannot move past. i think president trump did a very good thing with the bombing of the air field and firing on these regime elements in the deconfliction zones shooting down despite russia's warning. i think president trump can go in in the strong position. if you walk in and say here is concessions vladimir putin may not show it in his face but he will feel it in his heart that he has another administration he
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can tango with. i hope that is not the case. i hope he walks in with a very strong perspective. >> there is a temptation to look at election meddling in the past. russia continues to attempt to hack, probe election systems, political organizations. are you concerned that president trump is not taking the threat of further attacks on the u.s. democratic system seriously enough? >> it is a concern. i know his administration is. i talked with a lot of folks who say they are taking this very seriously. we are formulating plans to counter it. vladimir putin fears his own election and losing that more than anything. he is playing with fire on a lot of this. i think the president needs to make stronger statements. there is all this talk about who won and didn't win. president trump won and he won rightly by getting the vast majority. i am glad he is there. you look at 2018 fine.
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i worry about not the next election. i worry about people's faith in the institution of democracy. if you start losing faith that your voice is being heard -- i think a lot of people feel that way already. if you feel that is coming then that is when you lose faith in the institution and that is how societies break down. >> that's an alarming prospect. thanks very much. coming up, breaking news. we are getting new information about russia's efforts to spy inside the u.s. i'll talk to the former director of national intelligence james clapper about that and more about the president's latest refusal to accept the intelligence that it was russia behind the election meddling. maybe it's time for otezla (apremilast). otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable after just 4 months,... with reduced redness,...
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happening now, breaking news. tense protests, violence erupts at a demonstration of the g-20 summit in germany. police are pelted with bottles and smoke bombs and turn water canons on angry crowds to break them up. will there be more clashes? russian spies. sources tell cnn that russian agents are ramping up espionage efforts inside the united states in the wake of the presidential race with what is being described as aggressive intelligence gathering. president trump casts fresh doubt on russia's meddling on the campaign questioning the consensus of the u.s. intelligence community. we will talk more about it with james clapper. severe things. trism accuses north korea of behaving very dangerously and says he is thinking about severe consequences for the kim

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