around washington from bob mueller. the next hour of the newsroom starts right now. >> hello again, everyone, thanks so much for being with me, i'm fredricka whitfield. we begin this hour -- rex tillerson and his north korean counterpart are in the same summit in the philippines. this comes on the heels of the u.n. slapping harsh sanctions on north korea over its recent missile tests. sanctions that were unanimously voted on by the u.n. and could cost the country $1 billion annually. secretary tillerson also met with russian's foreign minister in manila earlier today. it's the first time the two have spoken since russia was hit with its own round of sanctions from the u.s.

shortly after that meeting, here's how the foreign minister described the conversation. >> we had a lengthy meeting with rex tillerson, he was primarily interested -- that's what he started with, details of those discussions that were made in response to the anti-russian sanctions taken in the congress of the united states of america. we provided an explanation. actually, this explanation was based on the interview of vladimir putin. everything was said in detail there. >> cnn's political affairs correspondent joining me now, elise, what more do we know about the meet something. >> there's a lot for these two ministers to discuss. not only the russian sanctions and the actions they took against u.s. diplomats and employees cutting 755 employees. from the u.s. embassy in moscow, they have a lot of national security issues to talk about, they talked about syria, they talked about ukraine and north

korea, and the foreign minister feels that some of the u.s., beefing up of the region he says is an impediment to security and stability in the region. a lot of tension between these two countries. >> sergei lab rov released a statement about the sanctions against russia, what did he say? >> he's saying this is an impediment to the relationship. u.n. sanctions imposed on russia became another link in the chain of unfriendly and dangerous for international stability. and struck a blow to bilateral collaboration. we're ready to start the dialogue. i think what he's trying to say and what secretary tillerson was saying, when he opposed congress passing those sanctions. these issues about the u.s. russia relationship are an

impediment to dialogue on some of these other issues, but it's true that russian meddling in the election, this tension between the two countries and obviously all the politics and investigations going on here in washington are kind of the elephant in the room with these two countries and it's really hard for them to buckle down and get to business. that said, there is a lot of cooperation behind the scenes. i think both countries would like to do a lot more. >> thanks so much. >> u.s. ambassador to the u.n. nikki haley spoke out about russia's ability to vote for sanctions against north korea, despite the tense relationship right now, take a listen. >> we should always be hard on any country that tries to meddle in our elections, whether it's russia or anyone else. what you saw is it those sanctions were a response to the meddling and we'll see how russia responds with that. we negotiated with russia this week on this security council resolution, and we were able to find common ground in terms of

making sure we had a strong voice for north korea. >> maria is a cnn political commentator and democratic strategy and a former senior adviser to christopher hill, and a visiting professor for georgetown university. good to see all of you. what does russia's ability to vote for the sanctions signal for the future of the u.s. and risch ya relationships? >> this whole resolution condemning north korea and putting a sanction on about one third of their economy is an unqualified diplomatic success for the trump administration, we have difficulties right now in our relationship with russia, because of their meddling in our election, it's important to understand that on the big issue of dealing with north korea, which is a clear and present danger to the security of the united states, nikki haley and the trump white house were able to get russia in the right

place, they were able to get china in the right place. this is a big diplomatic win for the white house. >> how do you think the tough sanctions from the u.n. will impact north korea? >> i think that is actually the big question, and so i would argue it's not really quite unqualified, it's actually qualified success. >> china gets little out of opposing this sanction. and it gains little from opposing it, it's in a position now where clearly the international community is trying to get some action on north korea. it's not clear that china will follow through ultimately or completely, and nobody can really deter north korea from firing more missiles or another nuclear test. >> the president is on a working vacation in new jersey, he is tweeting, and he said this, the united nations security council just voted to sanction north korea and china. very big financial impact. is this considered a big win for

this white house? >> well, i i agree with the last person who spoke, buzz i don't think that we can absolutely qualify it as a 100% win, because there's always the what now. it sounds like scott and the president are already putting up the mission accomplished banner, when it's everything but that, the road ahead diplomatically and with every other option is a huge uphill battle. there are very big questions as to what china's going to do, how much they're going to heed these sanctions, what else they're going to say behind the scenes, they have done very little in the past. it's all -- it's been all talk and no action on their part, regardless of what the trump administration and trump himself has done and said toward china. they haven't been able to budge china into actually doing more than just what they have just done, which is vote for the sanctions, which is a good

thing, but again historically, they have not been good at living up to the sanctions in the past and to the promises they've made in the past, in terms of holding north korea's feet to the fire, and anything to that, we don't really know how much power china has over north korea, right? this is a leader that doesn't seem to listen to anybody that doesn't seem to listen to common sense or rationale on any level. so i would be very careful for anybody from the trump administration to be reading too much into this and to be saying mission accomplished at this early date. >> how influential can the white house be on change in a, when the president has been critical of china's involvement or lack there of? >> well, first of all, no one is saying mission accomplished, it will be mission accomplished when north korea gives up its nuclear programming. this white house is dealing with something that no white house has had to deal with, that's the prospect of north korea having

nuclear weapons that can reach the mainland united states. going into a u.n. security council vote, there were two outcomes, we get china and russia on board or we don't. they did get russia and china to agree with the sanctions. it's note worthy, because china is north korea's biggest trading partner. if they wanted to kill this thing, they could have. they understand that north korea is way over the line. i agree with maria that china in the past hasn't done all it could do, but right now, the situation is much different. we're at a much heightened state of danger because of the nuclear weapons being able to reach the united states. i'm optimistic, this is not mission accomplished, north korea has to give up its nuclear weapons, i think the strong stand that the trump white house and the trump administration is taking against north korea is going to convince them to do that. >> the trump administration is hopeful. this was kellyanne conway this morning. >> a unanimous rebuke of north korea, the greatest economic

sanctions package ever levered against them, it will cost them a billion dollars, even allies in the region like china, japan, south korea, all agreeing with the united states that north korea and its nuclear capabilities must be stopped. >> does this further isolationism prove beneficial? >> we have to remember, this is now sanction number 16 passed by the u.n. security counsel on those resolutions for north korea. just on north korea's nuclear and missile programs. we have to remember all of those sanctions in the past that never got passed opinion so i'm somewhere in between, i mean, i think this is an important diplomatic step. it is certainly an accomplishment and we're moving in the right direction. this is far from done. again, we have to see where the actions go, not just stepping the resolution. >> how will you measure progress or an impact?

>> i want to see what north korea does in response here, i know they met with their chinese counterparts at the conference going on in the philippines. and it would be interesting to know how they played it with china today. if they test another weapon, i think the united states and china and the rest of the world has to be prepared to go -- to take out the weapons they have. that could reach the main land united states. i mean, remember they're testing nuclear weapons that could reach the mainland united states. to me, that's not acceptable, i don't think it's acceptable to the trump administration. they've done the correct order here. they're using diplomatic steps to hedge this off. i don't think president trump is going to keep aiming weapons at us without us doing anything about it. >> you say by use of thaad, or in a targeted measure by the u.s. military or -- >> i think all of those

options -- they all have to be on the table. look, you cannot allow someone like north korea to continue to test weapons and flaunt the international community without any consequences, these sanctions are a clear message from the international community look, enough is enough. if they flaunt that, then have you to be prepared to take it to the next level. i think russia and china voting for these sanctions is a strong message for them saying okay, okay, we've played along here for a while, but you've gone too far, we can't allow you so destabilize the world in the way you have. >> we'll leave it right there. stay with us. thank you so much. appreciate it. still ahead, the deputy attorney general says the russia investigation is not a fishing expedition, the latest on that ahead. he tried it once and now he's trying it again. president trump launching a form of trump tv as a way to combat what he dubs fake news?

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a new twist into the investigation of the kremlin in the previous election. robert mueller was hired to lead the investigation. he talked about what grand jury subpoenas could mean for the case. >> in general, it doesn't tell you anything about the likelihood of indictments, we make a determination that at some point in the course of the investigation about whether charges are appropriate. >> and what's the advantage in terms of investigation, taking the case to a grand jury. >> many of our investigations use the grand jury, sometimes you make witnesses in, to make sure you get their full testimony. it's a tool we use like any other tool in the course of our investigations. >> cnn's boris sanchez is following the story for us, from washington. boris? >> a fascinating interview with

the deputy attorney general, he said this was not a fishing expedition, and he faced confidence in robert mueller, saying he knew what the scope of the investigation was, in response to a question about whether or not the president's finances were part of the scope of the investigation, were appropriate for the special council to be investigating. he said that if robert mueller felt like he had to go beyond what he knew was the scope of the investigation, he would have to ask for permission from the acting attorney general, jeff sessions recused himself from the russia investigation, as far as the question convening a grand jury, rosen stein's response was that this was part of the natural course of events, it's no indication that robert mueller would recommend charges against anyone. we heard from republicans who essentially echoed that

sentiment, new jersey governor chris christie was on state of the union with jake tapper this morning, reiterating that remark, saying the media had blown this news completely out of proportion. then you are democrats on the other side, including the ranking house intelligence committee member saying this is an indication of something. the fact that this investigation has gone on for more than a year now, and that it's now moving to bring evidence. potentially testimony before a grand jury. is an indication that there's something there. listen to what he told jake tapper. >> instead, if these allegations are true, it's moving into a new phase with the impaneling of a grand jury, so the special council can subpoena witnesses and documents, that wouldn't be taking place, if there was no evidence, no evidentiary basis to move forward. >> from what we've heard from most republicans, they seem to

voice confidence in robert mueller, though they disagree on where the line, the scope of the investigation would be. a very different tone frat white house, and one of the president's main surrogates, in kellyanne conway, who said this complete russia thing is a complete fab race, we heard the president call this a witch hunt before, and this morning on abc, kellyanne conway took a shot at him saying he spends most of his time on tv. coming up, a quick response from the vice president and white house after a report surfaced claiming mike pence is plotting a presidential run for 2020? that's next. who knew that phones would start doing everything?

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today suggesting mike pence may be launching a 2020 presidential bid, should trump not seek a second term. the times reported pence's aggressive schedule and an official statement in the white house, pence called the story disgraceful and offensive to me, my family and our entire team. the allegations are categorically false and are just the latest attempt by the media to divide this administration. athena, any word on how president trump himself has felt about this report? >> no word on the president's own reaction to this. we know the president and vice president speak on a regular basis. today they won't say if the two have talked about this particular story. but it's important to note that multiple officials have been pushing back hard on this piece in the new york times on twitter and on television, listen to

what white house counselor kelly ann conway had to say about it this morning on abc's this week. >> it is absolutely true the vice president is getting ready for 2020 for re-election as vice president. >> so no concern -- >> and also 2018 -- zero concern, that is complete fiction, complete fabrication, and i know that his advisers who had comments attributed to them, have pushed back very strongly. and as am i right now, unequivocally, vice president pence is a very loyal, very dutiful and incredibly effective vice president, active vice president with this president. >> i think the operative phrase he heresome very loyal, conway and other officials want to make it absolutely clear the vice president has no designs on the president's job in 2020. you have to imagine this is something that the president

himself would be paying attention to. this idea that his vice president could challenge him. but officials say that is not the case. his spokesperson and chief of staff, who was mentioned in the new york times story pushed back on twitter last night, calling the story fake news, it is notable to see pence responding with an official statement on white house letterhead. it elevates the story in a way. and we should also be clear that the president has made it -- has been very forthright about the fact that he wants to have two terms as president. he's held multiple campaign rallies in the last several months, and filed the paperwork to run again very early in his presidency. so that's why we're seeing this very strong push back to this story. fred? >> athena jones, thank you so much from bridgewater, new jersey. let's bring back scott jennings and maria cardona to talk more about this. your reaction to the vice president's statement, did

indeed his response kind of give more oxygen to the report something. >> i think the vice president made a clear statement that he's loyal to this president, that he believes president trump is going to be a two term president. and look, donald trump has made all the moves you would expect someone who's running for re-election to make. he has a committee on up and running. i know it's a little early, historically speaking, but they've been successful campaign events. i would be stunned, absent some major issue in the future that we don't know about, if the republican party does not renominate donald trump for president, if he chooses to return for re-election, which i think he's going to do. i take them at their word. although i think trump may face a primary, it won't be for mike pence. >> is it believable that members of the republican party have begun shadow campaigning for 2020 and it's largely because of the uncertainty of this administration?

>> absolutely it's believable. i think it's believable that mike pence is having these conversations. the very strong push back that you heard from mike pence is called political survival. he knows that anything less than 189% loyalty from anybody working for trump means that there's going to be a target on their back. and he certainly is loyal, i want to give him that. i don't think he's disloyal. it would be political malpractice, if republicans, including the vice president don't start looking at what the options are when you have a white house that is engulfed in chaos, disarray minute by minute, we have no idea where things are going to be to or three years from now, and trump could be either 10% approval rating, he could be impeached, indicted, all of the above are possible. and so again, i think it is actually smart for republicans to be looking at what could happen, if any of those or all three happen, so that they are

ready with somebody to go in case they need it. >> what did -- extreme or very appropriate that there would be this formal statement coming out from -- with the white house heading the statement from the vice president. it's pretty significant it's not just a one liner, it's not just like it was tweeted out, but it's -- it's two, almost three graphs. >> it's significant enough for them to respond officially, i think they should have, because look they're saying that the vice president and his official staff through his chief of staff nick ayers are out plotting some shadow campaign. i think that's worth batting down what it's presented in the new york times, for mike pence, it's a chance to do a couple things. to show how loyal you are to the boss, and number two, again, they get to push the naturalive they think is working. i think it was a smart political

tactic for them to officially respond, and i'm glad they did. to respond to maria's political comments. i think as long as donald trump is sitting on 80, 90% approval rating heading into 2020. although i think he's going to face a primary from minorities. >> when you're losing, he is losing support -- especially -- or specifically from that group that you're talking about, scott. and in the last quinnipiac poll, at 30% in general, he has lost and he's upside down with support from the people who were his most avid supporters, white working class voters are now looking at him saying, he is not doing what he said he's going to do, he's breaking his promises left and right, again, what's really astounding to me, you don't have these kinds of

stories until the second year of the second term of a president, so to have these stories styx months into the first term underscores how much chaos there is coming out of this white house. >> is it an indicator to you? >> i think we are six months into a presidency. as i see it sitting out here in the middle of the country, republicans are pretty happy with the trump administration, happy with the role mike pence is playing as president. if everything stays equal, they move forward and try to work on the aagain ga, the economy keeps getting better, maybe they revisit and finally get a deal on health care, if all those things they ran on come true, the republican party is going to be lock step between renominating trump and pence. you don't know what's going to happen over the next three years. absent some major crisis, i would be stunned if the

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president trump is now presenting an alternative to traditional media outlets, and what he considers fake news. >> hey, everybody, i'm kayleigh mcenany. >> this is president trump's facebook page, featuring former cnn contributor, kayleil mcenany. no mention of the russia investigation, failure to repeal

obama care or staffing shake-ups in the administration, bill carter is a cnn media analyst and former new york times national media reporter, what do you make of this new outlet? >> well, you know, it's basically a press release that's turned into a video press release. most organizations in politics have their own view of things. and this is an official trump view. they're calling it the real news, it's actually a pro trump view. they have every right to do that. it's more of a campaign message out there. even if they're touting the jobs report, real news would say, how was it in past months. be a little more down the middle. it's not news, it's pro trump news. >> you see this as a campaign tool currently to get the message this white house really

wants conveyed? >> exactly. >> the presidents in the past have said, i want to bypass the mainstream media, go through local news sometimes they've done. they do issue daily press releases. this is using a modern technique and someone's face who has become familiar on cnn. a pro trump commentator, you put it out there as their version of the news. >> how do you see this as potentially threatening the livelihood of the live pressroom briefings from the white house? do you see this administration as trying to eliminate the need for that, and pushing his facebook live stream? >> i don't think so, i think this is definitely aimed at his base, his audience, and i don't think people who cover the news say this officially gives the answer to anything. because they weren't able to question it, they weren't able to put it in context, there's no context here.

i don't see that at all. it sort of threatens the pro trump commentators that are on the air. they are now seen sort of in the same light as kayleigh was. they're spouting the pro trump line, here it is presented by the trump organization in the trump tower by the way. >> yeah, it's in in the trump tower. >> today it was the 90 second clip, who knows where it goes from here. we'll have to see how it goes, as it goes. bill carter, thanks so much. appreciate it. coming up, an emotional race in london coming down to a photo finish, that one right there. we're talking with justin gatlin, who just stole the gold from the fastest man in history live after this. pain used to shut me down during pick-up games.

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sprinter justin gatlin who won gold at the 2004 olympics, upsets usain bolt. he was going for one last championship before retiring. it was a dramatic race, perhaps you saw it. with a photo finish in london. >> bolt gets a pretty good start. bolt's going to chase him hard, he's not going to catch him, here he comes. still got the lead, gatlin wins it. >> wow! that was incredible. gatlin narrowly stealing the 100 meter race with a time of 992 seconds. american christian coleman takes second and bolt takes the bronze with 995. guess what, we are joined now by the champion himself, justin gatlin, from london.

congratulations, good to see you. >> thank you very much. >> what a moment, i mean, you could hear the crowd there. we saw you on your knees at that finish, we're going to watch the race again, because it happens just like that, at the end of the race, you were very emotional, and you know what was going on through your mind? >> you know, my coaches said run my race pattern, the real race is going to be the second half of the race, it worked like clockwork, i turned on the jets and tried to get to the finish line as fast as i can. >> you did just that. 992. this rivalry between you and usain bolt, this was to be his big race right there in london at that olympics stadium. this rivalry really spans years. i mentioned 2004, your olympic gold. then for the next three olympic games it would be dominated that race by bolt.

any mixed feelings for that race knowing it may be the last win for usain? . >> i have the utmost respect for u taken. we know each other. we laugh, we joke, that's just the rivalry we have. >> we can see that respect, you were bowing to him, before you all hugged there, that was a beautiful moment. now what? what for you and your career and your goals? you're 35, he's retiring at 30. but you know, you showed you still have some mettle. >> you know, at this point in time, i'm going to take it race by race and year by year and see where it's going to put me at. these old legs have the student

to go straight to the starting line. ike go to take it and see where it puts me at will. >> after that race, we have the photo of you bowing to bolt. you put your finger to your lips, there was a lot of noise in that stadium because of your two suspensions related to doping. what do you say to people who have said that you should not have been allowed to be back on that track and back in the sport after those suspensions? >> i think it's more that i'm a formidable opponent. i came back into the support in 2010, i wasn't booed, 2011 i wasn't booed, 2011 i wasn't booed and i made the podium. 13, didn't get booed. 14, didn't get booed, 15 didn't get booed, 16 a little bit, 17 here i am, i think if it was anything that had to do with my past discretions, i think it would have been throughout my

whole career up to now, and it hasn't been. i understand it's usain's last time, and i didn't want to steal that thunder from him. >> wow! i was there in 2012 in london at that stadium, watching that 100 final race, it was amazing, i feel like watching it on television yesterday, it put me there again. because there's dead silence as you're in your starting blocks, and then the crowd just erupts, it's electric. what an incredible, just over 9 seconds to watch that race. congratulations, and all the best to you and your future endeavors, we'll continue to be watching you. >> thank you so much. >> justin gatlin, thanks so much. appreciate it. we'll be right back. >> bolt out slow. christian coleman has two strides on him. request he reel him in. trying to win the championship. bolt at the line. photo finish. it could be gatlin as well.

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in tonight's episode of the '90s, the cnn original series takes a look back at a time when domestic terrorism was on the rise. along with the branch de voidians and waco texas that faced off with law enforcement during a 51 day siege. >> waco was proof positive this was an aggressive predatory ghost, and we have to fight back to bear arms to defend their rights. >> this is a militia preparing to defend themselves against the federal government. there is an armed militia here in indiana and at least 20 other states. >> we had always had a radical

right, but in the '90s, it entered the mainstream. gun shows became an important venue, not just for selling guns, but selling real life nazi literature, along with survivalists handbooks and that kind of thing. >> terrorism hits home. cnn national security analyst peter bergen joins me to discuss. how did the fear differ in the '90s than post 9/11. >> you had the oklahoma city bombing, which was the most lethal attack on american soil 168 people were killed, including children. during that time, theres with a lot of concern about terrorism from the far right. another part of the show is the gathering storm coming from the

jihadist side. many people may not have realized the threat it posed. there was the entire first attack on the trade center building in '93 that killed six people. and then in 1997, bin laden declared war on the united states for the first time at the time, not enough people paid attention to it you had this right wing kind of extremist terrorist kind of theme that was going on and then you have this gathering threat from jihadist terrorism that would ultimately culminate with 9/11, but gathering steam throughout the '90s. >> you were talking about the u.s. embassies talking in tanzania and kenya. i wonder if terrorism like that, poised or assisted the u.s. in how to handle 9/11 once that

happened? >> well, i mean, it was an early warning. i mean, here was an al qaeda group, one almost no one had heard of blowing up two embassies almost simultaneously, in early august of 1998. unfortunately, the warning that that that should have given to everybody was not fully heeded. it was hard to imagine that al qaeda would attack later in the united states, even though they attacked a wide range of american targets in africa and yemen, and certainly when bin laden made these statements, he strongly implied he would attack the united states as well. >> peter bergen thank you so much, what a reflection, the '90s. the full episode, terrorism hits home, tonight at 9:00 eastern time only on cnn. also tonight, the cnn

original series, history of comedy, shows us how some comedians push the limits on network television with satire. >> the idea was parody. >> why are there newspapers all over the place. >> political satire, crazy sketches. anything that was fun that you wanted to try, that a network would never put on. >> i would like to welcome my first guest, jessica chastain. >> with between two ferns, you had a program that's a satire of talk shows. >> really interested in the work you've been doing in haiti. tell us about that. is there a six flags down there? >> there's not, no. >> we can move on. >> the new media stuff, especially sites that are just for comedy, they're a good thing for the business. especially funny or die, which is great. there is a democratization there. >> the things that succeed on

the internet, is happening organically, i'm seeing a hilarious video, it's largely because someone shared it. >> you can watch the full episode tonight at 10:00, only on cnn. that's going to do it for me. thanks for being with me this sunday. have a great week, the newsroom continues with ana cabrera. you are in the krrn condition newsroom. great to have you with us, washington is pretty quiet this weekend, the president is away. not every office is dark, the special council team investig e investigating the trump team is working. that's the group the president insists is on a witch hunt. developments over the past few days, seem to show that investigators led by robert mueller have something solid enough to move on. >> instead, if these allegations are true, it's moving into a new

phase with the impaneling of a grand jury, so the special counsel can subpoena witnesses and documents, that wouldn't be taking place if there was no evidence to move forward. >> now, whatever that evidence is, only that special council team knows at this point, they did something unprecedented this weekend. asking the white house for paperwork related to former national security adviser michael flynn. and whatever arrangements flynn has had with the government of turkey, i want to bring in boris sanchez joining us from washington, today we heard from deputy attorney general ron rosen stein, the man who appointed mueller, what did we learn about his feelings on where this investigation is headed? >> yeah, it was really a fascinating interview and we got some insight from the newty foreign general about the man he hired to lead this special council in robert mueller, first off, one of the more interesting points that he made was that this was not a