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>> 3.4 million residents in the dark. >> the damage is very extensive. it's nothing short of a major disaster. special council now targeting the president's actions. >> if there was no there there he would say so. >> paul manafort facing threats he could be indicted. >> you have a picture of a campaign that has more interactions with russians than they do probably with more regular americans. >> cassidy and graham are offering a big government variation of obamacare. >> this is our last best chance and i guarantee patients in this country will do better. >> the losers are the people. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. hurricane maria regaining strength, lashing the dominican
republic and dumping rain over puerto rico. the entire island of puerto rico is in the dark. the island's governor said it could be months before the power is restored there. hurricane maria is blamed for one death in puerto rico. >> there's a frantic search going on right now in mexico. there's a young girl discovered buried in the rubble of her school after the massive earthquake that ravaged mexico. emergency crews are working around the clock often by hand. why? well, they can get to her. she's moving her fingers and things have been passed back and forth, but they are too concerned about what they move and what it could mean in terms of further collapse and there's a concern there are other people still in that building as well. they are racing against time. the sound of cracking metal and concrete is heightening the anxiety. dozens of buildings have gone
down there. at least 250 people have lost their lives and that's an early estimate. we have the global resources of cnn covering both disasters. let's begin with nick payton walsh live in puerto rico. you have the sky behind you but it's shedding light on an ugly situation. >> reporter: absolutely. a reminder of what puerto rico was 24 hours ago -- 27, i should say. rescue operations continuing, and dozens of families rescued by the national guard said near san juan they tried for 1:00 in the morning in the dark to pull them out from the area but could only make three trips. that's the kind of serious logistical sh logistical challenges ahead here. we were with you and it
travelled up highway 3. we drove along that line, the propellers torn off. power cables down. pylons shattered all over the street. this is the challenge ahead now. the speed of the recovery and how quick could you get people back on the roads or how quickly could you get electricity back. that last question, four to six months possibly. this is an island left without power. very much the states where the financial crisis is at the heart of it and learning one person died during today's violent stops, hit by debris, and we saw it ourselves, and puerto rico thinking it could have a greater human toll but waking up to economic devastation in front of
them. >> hurricane maria has punishing winds and rain, and that's where we find our reporter. >> reporter: alisyn, at least the winds feel like they are slowly subsiding. it's not as bad as what we experienced in the overnight hours. we saw people here in the hotel serving as a place for us to stay. we are noticing people and now getting their first look at any potential damage from our vantage point, it doesn't look significant. this also doesn't mean that we are out of the woods. even from the beginning, officials here have been warning the storm itself, the eye of hurricane maria would not make landfall in the dominican republic but the outer bands would sweep across here, and
jose and irma dumped torrential rains in the last several weeks, which means any precipitation we see could worsen the potential for flooding and the threat for more rain is real. >> all too real. thank you very much and keep us updated. where is this storm, maria, headed next. chad meyers has the answers. >> heads to the turks and caicos, i believe. the storm is not done with the dominican republic. the north shore, which we could not get anybody to because the storm was baring down last night, and that's where the damage is being done now. that's where the storm surge is and the winds are right now. from port aplata all the way down to the dominican republic. i can't tell you or show you the radar because the radar is still broken. we just got a notice off the
national weather service chat it could be two weeks before they can get to the radar because there are so many trees down on the roadways and the radar is on the mountain, and it's a good place for it until you have to go and fix it. there is the storm right now, 115 miles per hour. it's about 50 miles across. and it was 10 miles across when it hit puerto rico. the arms are out right now, and it's forecasts finally to turn to the right away from the u.s. we have been watching this wiggle for the past couple of days. so far so good today. the answer is no. >> that's good news. thank you, chad. it's hard to exaggerate what has happened to puerto rico. hurricane maria has left the entire island without power for the foreseeable future. joining us on the phone is the ceo of puerto rico's electric
power authority. thank you for being with us. can you give us a sense of the scope of the effort it will take to turn the lights back on in puerto rico? >> thank you for the opportunity. we do not know the whole scope by visual inspection. we have not been able to fly our helicopters to inspect the lines, but from what we have seen in the infections that we have been able to make throughout the metro area, it's going to take quite a while. we recognize that the system, you know, has been basically destroyed. >> i think we heard your governor saying in her estimatation, four to six months. is that what you are looking at? >> yeah, hugo, it took six
months. george, it took four months. now we hope to beat those dates and those times, you know, with the help of the appa which we are part of. >> you admit you have not been able to get into the sky yet. it's still raining. if those transmission lines have been damaged or blown away, how do you rebuild? >> well, we have done this before, alisyn. certainly we have never seen a storm like this in the past 100 years. we will need, i guess, to start rebuilding from the areas that have not suffered that much to the other areas, and in that order we can put those areas up
first and i guess we will operate as separated islands and systems for a while, while we give priority to the hospitals and water systems. eventually once we are able to establish the straptransmission will operate more efficiently. san juan's mayor was emotional in speaking about how life as you know it has all changed. puerto rico and san juan we saw yesterday is not there. i am concerned we may not get to everybody in time. that is a great weight on my shoulders. >> i don't know if you could hear her but she was saying the
san juan and puerto rico we knew is no longer there and she's concerned you will not be able to get to everybody. what will happen if you don't have power for six months? >> as i said, alisyn, it happened in the past and it took six months to get power to the last client. we need to relocate people, and people will have to adjust and use a different means of, i guess, cooking and cooling. it's a very difficult proposition now even though we do have the experience, and it's difficult because there has been a generational change from that time to now and everybody uses, of course, their social media, and the kids play on their electronic games and video games, and now really the customer has changed. the fact is the fact that we are going to take a long time to get power back to every single customer, and i guess it's a
good time for dads to buy a glove and ball and change the way you entertain your children and the way you are going to go to school and the way you are going to cook for gas stoves other than electric. the government has made a great effort. we will identify those places that will take longer to get power and from the central government we will provide these people with a means to survive without electric. >> you said it best, you have been thrusts back in time by decades now, and it's just impossible to over state the responsibility that you have on your hands start this morning. ricardo r ricar ricar ricar ricardo romos, thank you very much. the rescuers are working around the clock and made
contact with a 12-year-old girl buried under the rubble at her collapsed school. there may be more. what do we know? >> reporter: chris a. sign of life. an hour ago we saw rescue workers raise their fists up in the air and that, of course, means silence. please be quiet so we can hear the signs of life and the signs of life can be followed. here's the delicate dance these rescuers are doing. they listen for the signs of life and then move the debris by hand. only a human hand can be that careful. then they use beams to shore up the building to create tunnels under the rubble to get to the signs of life. of course here we are talking about the 12-year-old girl that according to photo tv, one of cnn's affiliates in mexico city,
they are told rescuers have seen her fingers move, and that, of course, the ultimate sign of life especially for the parents waiting to hear and hoping and praying their daughter will be brought to safety. a lot of resources being mobilized right now. about 30 or 40 minutes ago a doctor came rushing to the checkpoint behind me asking for more pediatricians. when i asked if a rescue had happened he said he could not say. they are asking forte pediatricians, another sign of life. 21 bodies recovered have been children. the rescuers are continuing to do their work to try and save lives. >> thank you for being our eyes and ears on the ground. let us know what you develop on the ground there. back here at home, president trump instead of dealing with
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to leave? >> i have decided. >> can you tell us what your decision is, sir? >> i will let you know. >> all right. there it is. the president saying he has made a decision about whether to pull
out of the iran deal and he said he will let us know when he wants to. joining us to discuss that and a lot more is h.r. mcmaster. sir, thank you for your service to the country. >> it's a privilege. happy to be here. >> rex tillerson, secretary of state was surprised to hear the president made a decision. did you know that the president had made a decision? >> sure. we have all been involved in lengthy discussions not just about the iran deal but what to do about iran's destabilizing behavior broadly. the potential of a nuclear program, the need to block all paths to a nuclear record for iran. really what they have done to
perpetuate violence across the middle east for support for trar terrorists, and causing probl s problems, and so we have taken a holistic look at this, and what is different about the president's approach is he didn't look just at the iran deal, and he placed a decision on the deal in broad context on how we protect american citizens and allies from the destabilizing behavior. >> what is the decision? do you know? >> i know what the president is, but when the president reveals that and talks about it he will place it in context of the broader approach to iran and what we have to do as a nation to protect our people, and what we have to do with our allies and partners to really prevent iran from continuing this very disablizing behavior and the
threat to israel, and the flow of these very destructive weapons through this clan destin network they set up from gaza to syria and -- >> understood. dangling it the way the president did is good showmanship, perhaps, but also could be disablizing. you had a religious leader and is prone more towards extreme views and said the president is speaking out of desperation and anger. the central focus is, i hear everything you said about what iran is doing and we heard it from others as well, and that's not what the deal was about. as you well know, it was about controlling and containing as best you can and looking at the missile program, the nuclear development program. why mess with that deal in the interests of these outside issues? >> i think the main reason is the deal is fundamentally
flawed. as the president said, he called it the worst deal of all-time. it gave the regime all benefits up front and then the sunset clause that could really give this regime who is not trustworthy, obviously, cover to advance a nuclear program and have a threshold capability. missiles -- >> understood. you have a this and that issue here. you have your six nation allies, okay, including the u.s. this is the best deal they thought they could get. by most accounts this has stopped, slowed, and somehow, some way, positively influenced their development capabilities. we have not heard you guys question that reality. but if this was the best deal they thought they could get and you have outside concerns, why not deal with those separately, and cut a different deal assuming you have leverage, but if you mess with this you could
destabilize the total situation according to the iranians. >> iran is continuing missile development, and missile development that could be paired with a nuclear program later. the regime has not just walked up to the line and crossed the line, spinning too many sentra fuses and too much water. so while the monitoring body called them out on it and they corrected some of this, how do you trust this regime to do it. much more rigorous enforcement is needed and the need to address the fundamental flaw, the sunset clause, and it could threaten the world, this regime in iran, and such as that missile program. in the context of an overall iran strategy, because iran is destabilizing, not just the middle east but poses a broader threat, and iran is perpetuating this humanitarian crisis in the
middle east. >> it's about how to approach it, because in this move potentially you destabilize a second situation which is north korea because arguably what we have been hearing from most of you guys when the president is not being more inflammatory with his rhetoric is we will get them to the table. why would north korea make a deal who are backing out of a deal with somebody else? doesn't it comprise your efforts there? >> i don't think so at all. north korea knows this president is not going to repeat the failed strategy of the past. >> help us understand how north korea seeing you back out of a deal with six nations involves helps? >> north korea has walked into deals with the north korean regime and then it breaks immediately. so the pattern in the past with north korea was to engage in long drawn-out talks, and lock
in wherever they had gotten, and then a weak deal develops in which north korea immediately breaks. we're out of time on north korea. we can't take that approach anymore. what the president has been able to do is marshall the broad community of nations, nations who recognize that we must work together urgently on this problem. you see in the very strong sanctions, 215-0 votes in the security council. the president will make an important announcement today about the continuation of our efforts to revolve this problem with north korea short of war and he will make that announcement as he meets with our very close ally south korea and japan. >> were you one of the authors of rocketman. do you think that rhetoric helps? >> it's an accurate term. he is disadvantaging his own
people every day by investing in what is a suicide mission. this is not going to keep his people safer but puts them on a path of devastation. >> but does the words matter? you talk to a hot head in an inflammatory way? >> well, it got his attention. it's really an urgent problem now. >> there's talk and then action. you have been talking about something called preventtive military action. preemptive is, they are getting ready to do something to us and we can see it and we have to do something first, recognize the international law as a reasonable and potential basis. preventive is not. you have been using the word
preventive. what do you mean by that? >> preventive, it's so grave -- >> that's preemptive. >> no, preemptive is if you see an imminent threat, for example, the lighting up of missiles -- this is a leader who said and his people have said he is going to target the u.s. -- >> understood. >> and obviously, south korea, which lives under the gun of the regime. >> and about 50,000 u.s. servicemen and their families. >> what we have to do is help define with our allies to define these decision points. there may be some really, really tough choices. everybody wants to resolve this short of military conflict. everybody knows how costly that could be. how unpredictable it is once you begin this interaction, military
interaction with the regime. >> why do we talk about it so much? >> we have to have options on the table. >> do we have options? >> certainly we have options. >> do you think one of them would be shooting down one of the missiles? >> there could be. there's a broad range of options. we have tremendous military capability along with our allies and we practice that capability and have our forces as a high level of readiness for this problem, but what the president has done is directed us to integrate what we are doing diplomatically, what we are doing economically and with sanctions. with our plans and what we are prepared to do militarily. if you divorce military from diplomacy, your diplomacy is not going to be effective. >> at the same time, the talk of we will totally destroy, and you are dealing with a madman. don't all roads of any kind of military action lead to great
vulnerability with 10 million people in seoul. >> yeah, the president first talks about the south korean people and the importance of us solving this problem in a way that doesn't involve increased risk to our great allies there. the president's rhetoric was completely appropriate because what is more dangerous is a lack of clarity. previous presidents have made similar statements and the clause is if, if north korea attacks, if north korea takes these provocative actions. we may not have a choice. >> that's the same standard. you have not changed the line? >> no, but it's much more dangerous than ever because of the way the program has progressed over the years. how previous agreements have failed. >> what they are doing has changed but our stand, the united states standard for military action remains the same in terms of what you perceive as
a threat? >> we have to work harder at making sure we are ready for any even khau wal tea. >> if a missile can reach the united states, it can reach other nations as well. >> understood. >> if the nonproliferation regime, which means preventing other nations from getting nuclear weapons in a way it can destabilize the world, if that breaks down and you have japan arming and south korea arming at a higher level, which they are doing, they have to, that's destabilizing to the region, to the world. it's a threat to all nations. so the president has called on all leaders, our allies and others, including china, russia, others, to do more. >> understood. the russia investigation. i have been hearing you this morning saying you are focused on other things, but it's a national security issue that which russia was doing to impede our election. it just is by definition.
what do you feel about the implications of what russia did and do you endorse what the special counsel is doing? >> we developed a strategy for coping with russia and secretary tillerson is in the lead on this, and essentially what we have to do with russia is three things. we have to confront their destabilizing behavior. the president is going to meet with a nation under threat from russia, and this is a nuclear armed nation. we had the long cold war with the soviet union, and we want to detour other conflicts, and we have to make sure we keep that in mind as well. the third thing we want to do is find areas of cooperation where we can work together in our mutual interests. what we have seen in recent years is russia deflects anything they can to disrupt the
interests of our allies and the united states. that's silly. we should be able to work together in key areas and secretary tillerson has done a magnificent job to address the humanitarian catastrophe in a way that is consistent with a long-term interests and denying iran a land bridge that could put an army on the border of israel. there's big issues that we could use russia's help on. we saw the story today about how russia may be trance shipping to north korea, and that's not in their interests. we have to find the areas of coop raeg cooperation. >> the questions about what they did, who might have helped them and how to stop it, you believe those are all legitimate questions for us to look at? >> of course, and so does the president. >> he has been on different
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we just heard from president trump's national security adviser, h.r. mcmaster. let's break down everything he said with john avalon. i don't have a crystal ball. he said he didn't want to reveal what the president's decision was but it sure sounded like the president's decision on the iran nuclear deal was to get out of it. >> it did not sound -- it has been a source of frustration that he has not been able to get out to date. the real point that i think mcmaster made was there's so many problems with iran, sponsoring terrorism, and the timeline and the sunset clause. what you could see and what seems to be telegraphed, but mcmaster would not say, an attempt to renegotiate the deal and try to form a coalition.
>> i didn't hear the we're getting out. obviously he didn't say it. the president is playing not even politics, he's playing reality tv, i will dangle it. mcmaster was much more definite. the problems they have with iran outside of the nukes are real. to me that sounds like we are going to add on and agitate because we don't like the state of play. he could have said that deal has got to go and he didn't. >> he's consciously echoing the president's rhetoric even though as he tries to dial it back in places. it's a domestic political problem. is it a poison pill if you try to renegotiate it. >> what i heard is he said this is why it stinks. steinks.
>> getting out of it is complicated. you have five other nations that got into this. everybody says the same thing you ask about this. look, i was not crazy about the deal but it was the best deal they could get and it has slowed what they were doing, if not stopped in full compliance. that's the reality. are you going to piss off all five of them? he didn't deny they are substantially in compliance. >> he spent time trying to echo the president's rhetoric, and the substance was much more measured about continuity. he praised rex tillerson on working with russian. there's fundamental
contradictions. >> what i liked hearing from him is he validated these questions about russian interference, who helped them and what it means to stop them the next time mattered. he said so does the president. in truth it's not mcmaster's fight to fight. the president has not endorsed these moves consistently. he called them a witch hunt. mcmaster said this is our legitimate investigation. >> it's important to get the national security adviser on the record about that. i think, again, he was trying to be deferential to the president, but there is no resembling con tpau kn continuity. >> anything else out there? >> rocketman is not a accurate phrase, and the president's style that some could describe as having a whiff of the
demagogue in it. >> isn't it a elton john song? >> yes. >> you said john lennon. they did collaborate on one song. >> what a saving move. he did say it got peoples' attention. that's true. what comes of that attention is a separate issue. >> thank you. republican senators are making a last-ditch effort to repeal and replace obamacare. why? because they are running up a deadline that entitled them to only a simple majority on this, not 60 votes. should they do it? let's get the democratic perfect spe perspective next. i think how much i can do to help change people's lives. i may not benefit from those breakthroughs, but i'm sure going to...
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ditch effort of scrapping obamacare. senator, thank you for being here. >> good to be with you. >> you are opposed to the graham cassidy bill, but what you hear in the hallways are they going to pull this off? >> this is their closest shot so far, which is astonishing, because america's hospitals and societies and nurses and advocacy organizations are out saying do not do this, it would be a terrible mistake. you have experienced legislators like chuck grassley saying there are ten reasons to vote for this bill, but i will vote for it anyway because we promised we will do something so we have to do something. there's the deadline and the panic set off in republican with
quarters by the deal between chuck schumer and the president. there are reasons that have nothing to do with the substance of the bill that will give it a shot. it's a whiff of desperation. >> well, senator bill cassidy was on our program and he has been out selling it, and he talks about how it's going to be so much better for all of these states. let me play this for you. >> more people would have coverage. states like maine, virginia, florida, missouri, there will be billions more dollars to provide health insurance coverage for those and those states that have been passed by by obamacare and we protect those with pre-existing conditions. >> what is your reaction? he says billions more to awful these states? >> yeah, there's not much of
that that is true. for starters, you don't protect pre-existing conditions when you allow states to deny coverage for pre-existing conditions, which this bill does. second, he focuses on the states that get money under that bill not hraog -- not like my state. it's up fair to pick out those states and say you are winning. the other trick they pull is that they don't count all the people getting torn off medicaid by the end of the requirements. so they start with a false number and then they build up from there and they say it gets better but they don't count the people that lose coverage as the initial shot this bill takes at medicaid. >> you are saying he's being intentionally misleading?
>> i don't know what his intent is, but he's being factually misleading? >> one of the things i hear people talk about, i have people in my own life who struggle with the opioid crisis and i ask what the government's plan is to help this scourge across the country. so have you read the graham cassidy bill? >> i saw reviews but have not read the language. >> do you know what it does to fight the opioid crisis? >> well, it's not like there's a fixed graham cassidy bill out there right now. the last version that i saw has none of the $40 plus billion they threw in as a sweetener. the president said he would
declare a state of emergency and he hasn't. they say he would take it seriously and they cut funding and there's not much going on from the republican side that shows they take the opioid crisis seriously, and it's disturbing because it's a huge era of bipartisan progress. >> yeah, and the panels i have, they understand the opioid crisis and they want to fix this epidemic. while i have you -- >> guess what the biggest rescue method is for people who are in opioid recovery and who are addicted? it's medicaid. the very program they attack in the bill. >> because you are on judiciary, i want to ask you about the russian investigation. there's reporting mueller is asking for documents connected to president trump himself, so not top campaign aides, but now
documents about what president trump said in the oval office to russian officials in a may meeting that he had with them. how significant is that to you? >> i think it's -- it confirms things that i think most people believe. first, obstruction of justice is going to be a key part of this investigation. all of that leads, obviously, into the white house because it would have happened during these later stages, and second, this is a properly run federal investigation in which you go after the documents first before you start bringing in people to testify in front of the grand jury. it's a point in the direction that white house officials are going to be called in front of the grand jury once they have had a chance to obtain and review all of the documents that they have requested. >> senator, thank you for your time today. >> my pleasure. thank you for having me on, alisyn. it's an important day for president trump dealing with the north korea threat. we will give you all the details
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time for the five things to know for your new day. hurricane maria regaining strength and battering the dominican republic. the hurricane leaving the entire island of puerto rico without power. rescuers working to save a girl from the collapsed building in mexico. they are trying to get to her and maybe others without causing a further collapse. bob mueller asked the white house for documents related to some of president trump's most scrutinized actions since taking office, including the dismissals of mike flynn and james comey. the washington post reports paul manafort offered to give a russian billionaire private briefings on the 2016 campaign.
and meeting with the leaders of japan and south korea, and talks are scheduled with the presidents of afghanistan, ukraine and turkey. >> those are the five things to know. now here's what to watch. >> all right. >> you are a brave man, mr. stevens. your testimony will save lives. >> mr. stevens, this is your new name. this is your new house and a perfectly inconspicuous suv. you must become invisible. >> i'll take my chances. >> a little car commercial as a movie there. cnn "newsroom" with poppy harlow will pick up right after the break. can i get some help. watch his head. ♪
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at the top of the hour, 9:00 a.m. eastern. dominican republic feeling the category 3 storm with winds that top 100 miles per hour. 20 inches of rain and the soerpl surge as high as six feet. and puerto rico gratefl for the daylight since the entire island, home to more than 3 million americans, has lost electricity. the entire island of puerto rico may not have that back in many places for months. word on damage. hard to come by because of the lack of communication and power, but officials say dozens of families were rescued overnight from flooding near the capital of san juan, and that's where we find nick payton walsh. yesterday youe
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