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welcome to inside politics. i'm john king. thank you for sharing your day with us. president trump's signature travel ban expires on sunday. we are learning details on major changes. facebook turns over thousands of 2016 campaign ads traced back to russia and promises tighter scrutiny in future elections. >> i don't want anyone to use our tools to undermine democracy. >> the president backs the establishment candidate in an alabama senate race pitting him in conflict with conservatives like sarah palin and steve bannon. >> a historic weekend. the president of the united states will take time out from his schedule to come to huntsville. >> and turks and caicos is hurricane maria's target as it
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stun and flattened puerto rico begins a long path to recovery. >> today is the most important day when it comes to the response. today is about life saving and establishing emergency power for the infrastructure such as hospitals and we will be doing life flights. >> let's begin the hour with the breaking news on the so-called travel ban as the white house unveils restrictions on who can and who can't come into the united states. the travel ban was one of the most controversial endeavors of the presidency. that barred people from six majority muslim countries from entering and that expires sunday. with the deadline approaching, the president considering new recontradiction strikzs to make some measures indefinite. the source reported, they may expand the number of countries impacted by the i had bigzs on travel. something he said he wanted last week on twitter. the travel ban should be far larger, tougher and more specific.
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he went on to say stupidly that would not be politically correct. barbara, olivier, michael warren and mj lee. we all remember the beginning of this. this was the first big action of the administration and they were not prepared to roll it out and they had process chaos and legal chaos in the courts. are they ready to get it right this time? >> i think for him that's personally important for this not to be a spectacle and challenged heavily in court for this to be a manage of security management rather than politics. i think we will know more by later this afternoon, but he foreshadowed some of this by saying it should be tougher and broader than it has been so far. >> it was said that iraq convinced the united states to drop them. six majority muslim countries that led to challenges that it was a religion test and they lost a lot of those and won some
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about the power to do certain things. is it a different approach this time? >> as your intro noted, considering possibly and might, it appears from the early reporting they are changing from a time deal with two conditions on the ground, it looks like extreme vetting is being translated into actual measures. there are questions about which countries have adapted passports and other measures like that. and prevent terrorists from coming to the united states. it being looks like they changed it to be more about these security condition than the identity of the country itself. >> that's an important point for the legal standpoint with critics being able to go back when he himself called it a muslim ban saying despite what you are now saying in official document, that's what you meant ask they had success by making it about this country does not have the proper vetting
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procedures and visa issuing procedures. you are making it about safety and not about individuals. >> right. broader in terms of the number of countries and they suggest more specific in terms of what exactly they are looking for in terms of the individual people who might be coming over or the vetting procedures. what was the travel ban initially supposed to do? it was supposed to be a stop until they could develop their own extreme vetting. sounds like what they are doing and it may not be that extreme anymore. it might be what you might expect the federal government to do to make sure bad people are not getting in. i agree that this was initially when john kelly was dhs secretary, the chaos that came out of implementing this, they have a vested interest. >> this was done on a weekend. >> steve bannon and secretary took one for the team. everybody's reporting knew that
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was not the case. he has firsthand experience of being on the receiving end of the implementation of all of this. he was also part of defending his agency and defending it in court. the question now is one would assume they learned the lessons. how you crafted the language in it and they do have eight months of experience that gives them a better case against the people who said we can hold you to a muslim ban and what you said in the campaign. they have been in government for months and gives them stronger standing to say forget the campaign. i think it's safe as we are all sitting around, this will end up in court. >> i think trump's allies could have done without the distractions that came with the first roll out that was not successful. trump himself got a lot of heat for how he handled that and it created the image of a president who was not ready to announce something so big and consequential without having to file through how it will be implemented and as you said,
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john kelly's rule in this, we can't under estimate. trump's attraction to kelly and the peel that he sees in him has a lot to do with passports in this specific area. >> i want to throw in that president trump got back from or just finished spending several days at the un general assembly and spend a lot of time meeting with leaders from other countries in a way that looked different from candidate trump where he understands the purpose of leverage to get to your big goals like north korea or iran. when you are talk about travel bans that affect movement and temporary immigration and visas and the ability to be with family, you have a vested interest in doing it in a way that works okay for the leaders of the countries that you may need to have partnerships with and that doesn't offend them. that's part of what they have at this time. >> the early supporting suggests that they use the possibility of a travel ban to compel them to take certain steps.
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whether they were travel-related or i think one of the big fights is countries refusing to take back their citizens that they want to deport. i wonder if the countries that got off the expanded list got off that list by saying fine, we will take these people back. >> you see in the new york times and the "wall street journal," they confirm much of this. 17 nations originally flagged and saying as it now stands, if we did this today, travel would be restricted because you are not up to snuff on security standards and we will see what the number is and how it works through. a number of them have rushed to comply. this is the president. we have known this is coming. this is the national security adviser on tv on sunday explaining how they are going from travel ban version one that became version two and three to the next. >> if you can't screen people effectively to know who is coming into your country, you shouldn't allow people from that
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country to travel. what the travel ban is is a first step, a first step? better screening and better sharing of information. to encourage governments to meet the requirements that we have so that it allows us to protect our own people. >> will we see a new one? >> this is something we are looking at. how to protect the american people better. >> on that last point, it was a big controversy. there was a challenge in court. those who said the president is trying to pose a religious test and he was anti-muslim. on general mcmaster's point, had they not blown the process and done it so badly, the president is on safe political ground on his own base that i'm the president of the united states and it's my number one job to keep the safety issue. they explain it well and didn't write it well. in terms of i'm doing this and there will be outrage around the world and court challenges, but
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for much of the country, they will want to see the details to make the case. when a president said i'm doing this to make the country safe, it gets broad latitude. >> that's where they are. this is not the presidency that it was eight months ago when it seemed there was a lot of free wheeling going on in the white house. to mention it, general kelly has changed the way things operate. literally down to what the president sees in front of him and how the flow goes in the west wing. that made a big difference and helped the president in stumbling into a policy that again will have a lot of support. >> don't forget where he will be. at a rally in alabama promoting his choice of a senate candidate. it's a duality or parallel rhetoric when it's the official podium that is carefully script and mcmaster told him the words
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that they would prefer and there is rally talk. if the new restrictions are addressed tonight, it may sound different. >> i'm assuming that really talk will be used against you in a court of law. >> as you said muslim ban, that was used against the president in court. it will be interesting to make that point. this is not only a test of whether to get the process right, but the explanation to the american people and countries around the world. explain it right. how do they react when challenged. the president did not take it kindly when the courts told him you are wrong, sir. >> a judge just blocked our executive order on travel and refugees coming into our country from certain countries.
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the order he blocked was a watered down version of the first order. that was also blocked by another judge. it should have never been blocked to start with. >> that is a video illustration of rally trump. a lot of people don't like it when he bashes judges in public, but he didn't say anything that could be used against him in court. we have seen his emotions and that's part of the test. how do they roll it out and communicate. >> it was the religious test that screwed everything up. if you said look, every country needs to adopt a biometric passport and share about the passengers coming into our country and we had better liaisons and apparatus. i don't know that you get as much push back. the religious test is what screwed it up. >> we will see how it goes. we are getting new details
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throughout the day and the week. facebook said they will give data on thousands of ads by russian-linked accounts ahead of last year's elections.
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- this will be the first of may off-shore wind farms in the u.s. >> welcome back. the russia hoax, whatever that means is back on the president's twitter feed. just as they take a remarkable new turn. facebook is giving investigators the ads it sold in the 2016 election, handing over thousands of advertisements and promising a complex plan to deal with election interference around the world. >> i care deeply about the democratic process and protecting its integrity. facebook a mission is all about giving people a voice and bringing people closer together. those are democratic values and we are proud of them. i don't want anyone to use our tools to undermine democracy. that's not what we stand for. >> facebook provided the ads and
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what it knows about how they were targeted in ski states and how it links back to russia. it's a giant piece of the puzzle. they want to know if the rugs got improper help with that targeting. the president as he has at other moims in the investigation he wishes would go away is throwing social media shame. the russia hoax continues. now the ads on facebook. the investigation is no hoax. the sweeping request of the documents is one piece that was proof. maybe by hoax he means he doesn't think the ads came from russia or swayed voters. we can't read his mind and his staff won't or can't explain his tweets. he has a clear pattern of playing down involvement and casting the investigation as a waste of time. it can make things awkward for other administration officials. >> this administration and the entire government has been clear that russia meddled in the campaigns in the election. that is inappropriate.
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okay? absolutely inappropriate. no one takes issue with that whatsoever. >> the president does. >> no one takes issue with that whatsoever. >> allison is right. the president does. the president does. it's an interesting subplot part of a political strategy, but that he would come out this morning when all this is happening and he knows more than we do about what bob muller requested. i'm curious when the president starts attacking the investigation or is raising questions about it. this has been a remarkable development being forced to be more transparent. the public can't see the ads, but being forced to cooperate and turn them over. why hoax? are we still depabating who won the popular vote and the legitimacy of the presidency? >> every time he calls it a hoax or downplays at a time when everyone around him, members of congress and the u.s. intelligence community all decided that clearly there was a
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link there and there were actions taken during the election. he ends upcoming off of being defensive and that's a position that his lawyers and advisers don't want him in for legal and political reasons. we saw this play out a little bit earlier this week at the un too. it was remarkable. you think about how many times and to what length president obama went to in his speeches and most recent speeches to talk about russia and the various challenges related to the country. the president barely talked about the country at all again at a time when one of the biggest headlines this country is facing is russia's meddling in the last election. that was maybe not surprising, but remarkable. >> i think there is this on the left or some of the left there is fantastic belief that it can prove that russia influences the election and hillary clinton will be president and everything that happened will disappear. it's fantastic.
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>> not happening. >> i think the president has the mirror or the reverse image of that idea which is that any giving of credence to the idea that russia influenced the election even on a small or insignificant level makes his election invalid or val dads the idea that he won. he is unable even with all of these other people in his administration saying it happened, he is unable to give that up. that's political as well as a legal problem. >> russia is a global super power. the kremlin spokesman said we don't know how to place an ad on facebook. we have never done that and never been involve in it. >> we don't know how to use facebook. >> congratulations on being the only people in the universe who don't know how to use facebook.
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>> the russian entities because it's not him calling out mark zuckerburg saying i would like to place an ad. it goes through a number of outlets that are connected and that's how it gets on facebook. >> i want to show our viewers someone who is central to all of this. someone who was supposed to give a speech, james comey at howard university. this is what greeted him. >> i love the enthusiasm of the young folk, i just wish they would understand what a conversation is. a conversation is where you speak and i listen and then i speak and you listen and we go back and forth and back and forth. and at the end of a conversation, we are both. >> you don't see him in public very often.
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hurricane maria pounding puerto rico with rain days after the eye hit the island. the power is out across the territory that means des pray pleas for help are not always getting through. they are talking about an sos text received. >> i got an sos from that elderly orphanage and it was like from a horror movie. if anyone can hear us, please. we are stuck here and can't get out. we have no power and we have very little water left.
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we got there just in time. if i can save one life, that would be good enough, but i have too many to save. >> puerto rico's governor said at least 13 people have died as a result of hurricane maria. a woman and two children are plucked from a capsized vessel. another man did not survive. we have been reporting all week from puerto rico and we go live to west of san juan. what's the lest? >> reporter: john, i am in catano, an area where yesterday we watched as rescue crews were trying to get to people in flooded areas. we take a look around me at the devastation in this lot. i will point out this roof right here comes directly from that blue building directly behind
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me. as we found this, we also found jose ortega. this is his roof that came from that building. jose, i'm going to ask him what it feels to see this. [speaking foreign language] he says he's sad. he said this entire roof is right here. [speaking foreign language] i'm asking him what he will do next. he said he just has to wait. move forward. he keeps saying it's sad because this storm was very, very strong. [speaking foreign language] i'm asking him why he finds it hard to find the words to describe this. [speaking foreign language]
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this is the first time on this island since he lived here that he has seen something like this. he was actually telling me he left his home and stayed at a shelter down the road because he knew that there was devastation on the way. [speaking foreign language] this is what rescue teams are having to deal with at this hour. the government is trying to figure out how they will allocate some of the resources that are now coming in at the san juan airport. they expect to see resources coming in from the u.s., new york, sending in a plane filled with generators, food, water. fema bringing in to the airport as well. i have to tell you one of the frustrating things, this is a logistical nightmare and the government admits it has not been able to reach certain parts of the island. not just by road. via land line to reach the government officials there.
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what will come of the resources that come here logistically that will be difficult to get to the most vulnerable people on this island. john? >> a long road of recovery ahead. thank you for spending the time. not done as the turks and caicos are taking a very heavy pounding. let's bring in chad meyers at the weather center. what are the latest stats on maria and where is she going some. >> 125 miles per hour. this is not slowing down. hurricane hunters have been going back and forth and seeing low pressure and gusty winds to 125. now moving through the turks and caicos and north. i wouldn't want to be on a cruise ship in the bahamas right now. this is a rocking atmosphere here. the atlantic ocean will be rocking for the next few days and pounding surf across the east coast with significant rip currents likely. here's the 11:00 advisory.
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it turned slightly to the left, but it's slightly further. why? for now the two computer models have a kink in them. a kink back towards the west and here's the newest. that was last night. there is the new 12 z or 8:00 a.m. run even for the american model. they tried to push the storm closer to the united states for you. jose is up here doing that and shifting it off into the ocean away from atlanta, canada and away from bermuda and away from the united states. look at the numbers we are seeing here. a yard of rain. three feet of rain in some spots and still running off. there is the flash flooding and san juan. the landfall was way out here 70 miles away or so. there will be rainfall, but not enough to make a difference. the rain will be in the ocean. i will take you to one more
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thing. here's what we are going through. here's san juan. here's our layla. it being looks like a long way. all the way over here. now let me zoom out and show you how far she got. that's it. she went from there to there and couldn't go any further. you can imagine what the rest of this island is going through. if you can't get that far in a day, think about how long it will take to clean up all of this or get there for that matter. >> a long time just to get a good assessment and a longer road to recovery. appreciate it. we will stay in touch. the search for survivors after the devastating earthquake in mexico city. patriotism as emergency workers
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pause to sing the national engt em. president pena nieto said there could be more survivors. the hope fades. the mexican navy apologizes over confusion that a 12-year-old girl was still alive and trapped in the rubble of a collapsed school. let's bring in miguel marquez. they fear it might collapse again. miguel? >> we are here where a building maybe has dozens of people who are possibly alive. you have signatures here as the mexican navy is apologizing as you say. they released a statement a short time ago saying this is from the deputy of the mexican navy. i want to make clear the information was released by the navy based on technical reports and the accounts of the civilian and navy rescuers.
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i offered the mexican public an apology for the information disseminated this afternoon meaning yesterday where i affirmed i did not have details about a supposed child survivor this this tragedy. especially what he is saying that is they don't know whether it's a child or adult or anyone else. the mexican government put out that statement shortly before under the secretary said this 12-year-old doesn't exist at all. and now they have gone back saying they don't know whether anyone is in this building at all. they are still digging there. they are still hoping that there is somebody alive, but hope seems to be fading at that school. if i can show you quickly, this building is a multiuse building both offices and homes were in here. it is collapsed. you look all the way at the top, you can see what looks like a normal day. there is a doorway and jackets and a purse and personal
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belongings. looks perfectly normal. the rest of the building partially collapsed. three or four on to which each other. they believe what is going on here is that people are on the back side of the building possibly alive. that's also where the escape routes were for the building. the problem is getting into it. the rain in the last couple of days made the debris very heavy and made it unstable. this building could collapse at any moment. john? >> on the scene. more remarkable heroism. trying to find survivors in mexico. >> president trump and kim jong un call each other crazy as north coreissukorea issues a th. one little pad. n bright reveal peel pads from l'oreal skin expert, paris.
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>> welcome back. a new stare down with north korea's jkim jong un. kim jong un korea will be tested like never before. at least publicly he seems undeterred by the president's tough talk this week. a frightened dog barks louder of trump and a rare on camera statement. i will surely and definitely tame the u.s. deranged with fire. that fire north korea's foreign minster said could come in the form of a hydrogen bomb test. it they took that step, it would be the first above ground detonation since 1980. how would they respond if that
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happened? listen here. rex tillerson won't or can't say. >> while we will continue our efforts in the diplomatic arena and all of the military options are on the table. once we can assess the nature of this threat, the president will make a decision regarding the appropriate action. >> if they drop an h bomb or attach nuclear capability, will the u.s. have to act? >> that will be the president's decision. there is a national security council that meets to advise the president and ultimately it will be his decision. >> what are we to make of the rhetoric? rocket man, mad man. i know you want to jump in on this. even that word which if you don't know it, all the search engineers report a big increase on not a polite term.
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what are we to make of it? some people say you have two men and don't pay any attention to the rhetoric. when you are talking about a nuclear stare down, the language to me is a little -- i don't know about frightening, but what is it? >> what the white house has been signalling, particularly since the president's speech on tuesday, the totally destroy you speech at the un, the president knows that he is being provocative and getting everyone talking about it. that's what they want because when you are using a term like rocket man and they are invested in the solution together, it's hard to know if the white house has a strategy that is all but discussed and the president executes it and they say what they were going to say or if the president executes it and they try to make use of the strategy.
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whether they thought it was ridiculous or funny or dangerous, we are all using the phrase rocket man and the president's fascination with elton john aside and his father had been called rocket man on a magazine cover, it was catchy and everyone remembered it and it got the dialogue going when the president was very much signalling to china's intent and trying to get south korea to move closer. then the announcement by the central bank. but the rhetoric is different than the policy and the policy when you listen to tillerson and even to the president is still very much that the military is being discussed in terms of a defensive option and not an offensive option and they believe that diplomacy or sanctions is the most effective and still a lot of running room. >> i believe it was yesterday, but why not?
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the possibility of having communications with kim jung un. you call him a mad man. >> north korea was saying we will turn seoul into a lake of fire for decades. the two most interesting tidbits were jim mattis asked whether the united states has military options that don't put seoul at great risk. yes, we do. that's really, really important. one of the main deterrents to military action is the prospect of tens of millions of people dying and some americans as well. that was really important. the other was the hydrogen bomb threat. that does two things. puts pressure on the united states. if they fuel up a missile, do you let them fire it up? they haven't shown reliability. do you let them lob something over japan or do you take it out? i'm curious about the
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relationship between kim jung un and china. at some point do they say we don't want war. we don't want the regime to collapse and don't want south korea unified. do they say we have to get this guy under control here because his actions and his threats are making it more likely that the other bad outcomes occur. >> what are the regime said it tougher than it has been translated? >> no, but in all seriousness, the translation is a little unfortunate. what kim jung un said was like a derogatory term for an old or senile person. then a version of lunatic with a little bit of fool. when we hear donald trump using these terms to describe kim jung un, he is giving it right back. we hear dotard and as both of
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you discussed, conplating this personal conflict that is happening between trump and kim jong un is dangerous because there are serious and obvious geopolitical challenges and problems that pyongyang poses and you can imagine a scenario with a diplomatic solution even if it's short-term that involves kim jung un staying in power. what then? what does it mean for the personal conflict that trump got involved in with kim? >> we will have that conversation and keep an eye on the story. why a special election in alabama is pitting president trump against old fans like steve bannon and sarah palin. or, you can take advantage of our best offer ever on an xt5. don't wait. our 2017 models will be moving fast. you can drive a car... or you can drive a cadillac.
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>> if you didn't already know that? >> the president swore to me if you have not followed the president on twitter, i urge you to do so. he just tweeted a great tweet out and about his enthusiastic sport. the president of the united states will take time out of his schedule with all of the things going on in the world today to come to huntsville ask campaign for me. >> that's right. that was last night's debate and the president is headed to alabama and dragging he had already moving the membnumbers. my endorsement gained mightily. this is a huge test of the president's sway and pits him against several long time allies backing roy moore. steve bannon told the editors the race should be priority one until tuesday. look at the site. it shows it shows almost all
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alabama senate casting him as a mitch mcconnell puppet and breaking with the president on this one in montgomery. they were there for the debate and to support roy moore. why does it matter? there is a fracture as in the democratic party. the big disruptor and establishment. >> there are big national implications and does the object himself have the power to move? you see over the last several weeks, he was down like 16 points and he moved up. that's the president and mitch mcconnell's pack and chamber of commerce. i also think we can be too trump-focused and forget that in a local senate race in a race that is off a national election, there is a lot of local issues
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coming in to play. that's put into the seat by governor bentley as a last act before he resigned in disgrace. there is a lot of bad blood around that decision and ultimately this sort of goes back to like 2010. this is a republican-dominated state and a lot of internal tensions in the alabama party. you will see a lot of grass roots conservatives stick with more because of the long lasting issues that have nothing to do with trump. >> moore has become a national name at times. the chief justice of the supreme court taking a hard position on gay rights and constitutionality and having national promise. he understands how popular the president is with alabama republicans and he is trying to urge voters to pay no president to the endorsement, but hasn't criticized the president. >> president trump is being
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cutoff. in his office. he is being redirected by people like mcconnell. they do not support his agenda. >> i'm sure the president thinks of himself as someone who can be redirected, but the president decided with the priorities -- >> he is more of a wimd card. if he ends up being the one who assumes the seat, president trump has less control over the senate narrative than the junior senator from alabama does. it gives us a sneak peek at the mid-terms and what president trump really views his role as, does he want to blow it up and get people further to the right into office and stack the composition of the senate and the house or make decisions on a case by case basis?
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