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>> some great reporting for you this morning. good morning to you. glad to have you this saturday. i'm victor blackwell. >> and i'm renemarsh. special counsel robert mueller has filed his first possible charges in the 2016 russian election and possible collusion with the trump campaign. >> sources say anyone charged could be taken into custody as early as monday. these developments, of course, come just hours after the president, again, blasted the investigation on twitter. >> it is a landmark moment in the investigation into russian meddling in the 2016 election. sources briefed on the matter say a federal grand jury in washington approved the first charges in the investigation led by special counsel robert mueller. a spokesman for the special counsel's office declined to comment. the indictments are sealed, but plans are under way for anyone charged to be taken into custody
as soon as monday. >> when you see a sealed indictment like this, it almost always happens for one reason. there's a fear that the defendant is going to flea the jurisdiction. >> mueller wants to send a signal to other prospective defendants. if this person who has been indicted or persons are facing 20 to 40 to 50 years for whatever these crimes are related to collusion or not, there are others who may be subject to similar charges who have further knowledge about dealings with russia. >> the special counsel's investigation focused on potential collusion between the trump campaign and russia as well as obstruction of justice by the president who might have twrieed to impede the investigation. cnn reported that investigators are scrutinizing the president and his associates financial ties to russia. >> this is what we've been waiting for to see if investigators will bring charges in this probe that even impacts the president to a degree
because investigators have been looking at his potential involvement in obstruction of just. you see him tweeting about it calling it a witch-hunt, a hoax, saying that it's a waste of taxpayer dollars. >> mueller' team has examined foreign lobbying conducted by paul manafort. former national security adviser michael flynn and others. the special counsel has herbed subpoenas for documents and testimony to a handful of figures, including some people close to manafort and others involved in a trump tower meeting between russians and campaign officials. >> and this may be an indication that he's not trying to show his hand because he doesn't want people to be able to either conceal evidence, destroy evidence, it may be the reason that he was able to do a surprise no knock and announce warrant on paul manafort's home. there is an urgency that robert mueller is seeing and it may be a flight risk. it may be because there are some missing pieces. >> well, cnn washington correspondent ryan noble joins us live now from washington. you know, we haven't heard from
the president yet this morning on all of this. hearing anything from any of the staffers there at the white house? >> not yet, but saturday mornings are typically pretty busy for president trump. he ended up tweeting 14 times last saturday, so we are monitoring his feed to see if that will be the venue he used to give his opinion on this new and important development. and it waint be a surprised if the president continues his efforts to systemically raise doubt and questions about the value of b robert mueller and his team's work. yesterday, the president tweeted this. it is now commonly agreed after many months of costly looking that there was no collusion between russia and trump. was collusion with h.c., talking about hillary clinton. that was, of course, before we knew that the special counsel was poised to file charges. and press secretary sarah sanders arguing that this is not worth the taxpayer expense. >> congress has spent a great
deal of time on this. a better part of a year. all of your news organizations have actually spent probably a lot of money on this, as well, which we would consider probably a pretty big waste. i think that our position hasn't changed since day one and i think we are seeing now that if there was any collusion with russia, it was between the dnc and the clintons and certainly not our campaign. >> and republicans have been arguing for a while that the special counsel investigation is costing taxpayers too much, but there isn't all that much that the white house or congress can do to cut off the funding to the mueller investigation without taking some pretty dramatic legislative steps, steps that at this there does not appear to be the political will to push through. but now we are on the verge of those first arrests taking place. could happen as soon as monday. so this tactic by the white house could be a battle over public opinion and the president always believes that is something that he can win. rene and victor. >> and waiting to see what the president has to say. ryan nobles, thank you for that. let's get to our panel.
politico panel jackie climb is with us, robert moore, a. scott bolden and cnn political commentator and former senior adviser to the trump campaign, jack kingston. good morning to all of you. >> good morning. >> let me start with you, jackie. the difference for the white house and their response, and maybe that's why we have not heard from them. if this charge and the person who was charged is related to a white collar crime of money laundering, something that's not directly related to the campaign or if this is something that is related to possible collusion. >> either way, this is a very big deal for the trump admin vacation, especially this week pore this to come out. they just notched this huge legislative win with regard to the budget, opened the door to tax reform which is something they've been touting and talking about since the campaign. and then to have this come at the end of the week and be another distraction, just another controversy surrounding this white house, it is
definitely a big blow to them. >> all right. and michael, i want to bring you into the conversation. just about process. there's still a lot of unknowns now. we don't know who and we don't know what as far as the charges. explain to us the process. is it possible that even the individuals who are the target here don't even know what the charges are? kind of give us how that works in this sort of investigation. >> sure, sure. you know, i think it's probably likely that they know that there's an indictment out there. i don't put a lot of emphasis on the fact that the indictment was sealed or that the charges were sealed. that can be sort of the normal kaurs of how things happen. it allows somebody to turn themselves in, to make arrangements. there can be a number of reasons that a judge and the prosecutor could be asked that it case be sealed by the court. i the put more emphasis on the timing. i think what's happened and what you will see is that we have now gone from talking about suspects the in an investigation and allegations to now a criminal case with an actual criminal
defendant. and that kicks off things like initial appearance hearings, arraignments, discovery in cases, timing of a criminal trial. and it may be the thing that moves somebody forward if they're start to go plead for a presidential pardon. it may be that mueller is using this to try and smoke out some activity either from the white house or to put additional pressure on the person who was charged in addition to, in fact, giving a signal to the other people that they better get in line, too. >> jack, i want to brick up two things. the president has said that may not correspond with one another here. the president said that in his last news conference saying that he is not considering firing the special prosecutor here, robert mueller, but he also told a newspaper reporter, i believe it was the "new york times," that if this investigation were to go into his finances, the trump company's finances, his children's finances, that would be a red line for him. now, if this turns out to be a charge, and we don't know yet,
obviously, involving affairs, white collar crimes, money laundering, is the special prosecutor's job still safe? >> i think it is safe. and i don't think they're going to go there. i don't think they're going to find any evidence of collusion, either. i think that michael has kind of touched on what's going on here. i think they're going to try to get somebody and use him as a stalking horse to try to get somebody else to say something. but, you know, i think there's a little bit of bullying going on here and i think the timing, as jackie suggested, is very suspect. we as trump supporters are coming off a very good week, not just with the budget, but -- >> when you say bullying, who is being bullied? >> i think that what they are doing is they're sending a signal, and carl bernstein said it earlier in that clip, they're sending a signal for other people that, you know, with you better step forward. you better cooperate. here is somebody who probably had maybe the equivalent of a traffic violation in terms of the big picture here and they're
going to use them to -- as an example. >> okay. so i -- i don't know how a traffic violation fits into this. >> a traffic violation? >> i heard your -- >> no, no -- >> jack, i'll bring you back. i know you said the equivalent of. >> the equivalent of in the scheme of things. scott, come on in here. >> you certainly don't impanel a grand jury. i'm a former prosecutor from new york pup certainly don't impanel a grand jury and hire the top lawyers in the country for a traffic infraction. >> clinton donors, $35,000 from one guy. >> let me tell you something -- >> hold on, jack. let him get his point in here. >> there's only one prosecutor in this case and that's mueller. there's only one investigation and that's of donald trump, collusion as well as whether obstruction of justice took place. the real issue here is this moves them from rhetoric to reality. this is a criminal prosecution. politics, it doesn't really matter all that's going on.
trump can say whatever he wants to say about clinton. he can say this is a hoax. this moves away from it being a hoax .is harder for them to say. now you've got criminal prosecution of individuals. if they're connected to the trump administration, which i expect it to be manafort .flynn, look for the factual support where you get the collusion and then they're going to look at those finances between manafort, flynn, russia and and eventually looking at trump's finances. that's where the meat is, if you will. that's where the beef is. and we don't know what they've come up with yet. this is not a political prosecution. this is a real one. >> scott, it's absolutely a political prosecution. why would they go after his finances if the question is campaign coordination with the russians? >> well, if he would release his tax returns -- >> this is not about any real estate deal he has. >> we may not go there. >> hold on, we can't hear anyone if effect is talking. remember these are trump appointees who began this the investigation. rod rosen stein was the one who
began this investigation. and if you want to dip into congress, these committees are led by republicans both in the house and in the senate. but rene was going to come in with something. >> no, what i was going to say is besides all on of this, you mentioned the white house's strategy of coming after hillary clinton as -- in the lead up to all of that we learned about yesterday. one of those items being this dossier involving president trump and just research being done, opposition research. well, we now know that the group, the republican group that was behind funding it before the clinton campaign is a conservative website by the name of the washington free beacon. we know that that specific media site is funded by a major gop donor. you know, jack, to you, i know that had you've been talking a lot about the dossier and saying, you know, this is something that we need to be looking at. it shows, you know, wrongdoing on the hands of hillary
clinton's campaign. but we're hearing that this conservative site was funding this group to do the same research on donald trump. >> well, they did kick it off, but they did not have anything to do with the christopher steele part where this british operative got involved in it. and what the question is the dnc spent $9 million and yet debbie wasserman schultz -- >> how many did the free beacon spend? >> they would be under a different law in materials of reporting if they have to report it at all because, remember, they weren't doing that as a campaign. the dnc was doing it as a campaign and they probably violated the fec laws because they did not disclose it. >> don't pivot, jack. how much did the gop spend? just tell me. how much do you think -- you're a republican insider. >> scott, zero. zero on this report. >> they spent no money? >> zero on this report.
they spend $9 million but nobody knows about it. $9 million, scott. >> hold on for a second. this discussion is not over. i want to get back lynn back in and michael back in. we have to take a quick break, but we will, of course, continue this and i want to get to the president calling pore more of the e-mails from hillary clinton to be released from the state department. also talk more about the gag order the president wants lifted off of this fbi informant talking about uranium and, of course, more about the charges coming from the special prosecutor according to cnn sources. >> right. and also ahead, u.n. ambassador nikki haley says that if the u.s. isn't careful, we could face a security threat here at home from extremists in africa. coming up, hear from the ambassador as she finished up her three-nation tour. k on audi. and this guy is just trying to get through the day. this guy feels like he can take on anything. this guy isn't sure he can take it anymore. unwavering self-confidence.
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accelerate. i mean, there's still a lot more interviews to do. but it's definitely a first step and shows that they are making real progress. and we're, of course, waiting for parallel investigations on capitol hill, we're waiting for their findings, as well. so there's still a lot to get through, i think, to see any kind of resolution to this. >> all right. michael, i want to ask you a bit or, you know, as far as timeline, what does this really mean? what does this tell us? we are hearing about the first filed charges. does that say that, you know, he's at the middle of this thing? we still have a long way to go, or is it almost impossible to tell as far as where they are in this investigation? >> sure. i think we probably don't have a great idea of where he is. and let me tell you if this is a financial case, if it's a tax case, those things are relatively quick to move through the court system. there's not a lot of argue background did you report income, did you file your return, did you pay tax owes them? that's a pretty simple thing. you look at some documents. financial cases can be moved fairley quickly through there. i put more emphasis, again, on
looking at this as far as manafort and flynn. flynn had been negotiating trying to get some immunity for a long time. we may find flynn caught up in this. this may be finally the -- look, we're through, we're not going to negotiate any more, we're going to bring an indictment. we just don't know yet. i think it is more about working through the process and there's nothing normal about this investigation. let's be clear about that. from even having the main subject or a potential subject, that being the president of the united states interfered in the investigation on a routine basis and making comments about it. there's just nothing normal here. i don't know that we can look at it on a normal timeline. i think ultimately you'll see at least a plea agreement that's public or a cooperation agreement that we hear about later on. >> scott, let me move to another topic here. sources tell cnn the president wants the state department to accelerate releasing more of hillary clinton's e-mails during her time as secretary of state and the president called on the justice department to lift a gag
order on an fbi informant as related to russia's involvement in u.s. uranium resources and uranium one which people have heard. the white house says this is about transparency. from your perspective, what do you see and hear? >> that's the political cover, the term transparency. the reality is, though, he wants the e-mails out because these indictments are coming or these prosecutions are coming and he has to change the narrative or make it chaotic or cause confusion. and with his base, then the clinton name or the obama name is hot to them. and so the these e-mails have been thoroughly investigated. there's a civil lawsuit pending. the e-mails are going to come out. hillary clinton has called for them to come out. on the uranium deal, let's be clear. hillary clinton has been investigated for that, as well. the council that reviews these deals the that gave 20% to the russians have been cleared, as well. this wasn't a deal done in the
heat of the night that hillary clinton controlled. so both are probably going to come out examine do time. especially because there's a civil lawsuit whereby the judges said you have to release 500 e-mails a month. so look for that to come, but look for no new information that would say ah-ha for hillary clinton or trump supporters. >> jack, do you want to weigh in on that? >> i think that's fantasy. number one, she has been anything but cooperative. she has not released these e-mails. >> she's called for them to be released, though. >> why didn't she just release they will? >> this is a woman who said -- >> the state department has them. >> did she did i wipe them off with a cloth? destroy these with sledgehammers and -- >> well, donald trump asked the russians to -- >> hold on. let him finish his point. jack is feeling bullied. >> let me say why this fbi informant is actually very relevant here. because it does tie into this uranium one scandal. the president of the uranium one gave hillary clinton $42.3
million to hillary clinton during the time this deal went through. >> that is unverified. that is absolutely untrue. >> jack, he made the donation in 200 -- early 2007, i believe. but then the deal didn't happen until years later. >> exactly. >> but i would suggest that -- >> thank you for the correction. >> they were doing it for a reason. why hasn't he given -- >> but you have to do more than just suggest there's a connection, right? >> i'd like to make sure there's not a connection, as i'm sure scott would. >> but you keep throwing stuff on the wall. it's not going to stick. >> scott, hold on. why haven't they given since then? if they believed in the clinton foundation so much, $2.3 million worth, how come they only gave for four times leading up to this deal approval? >> don't know, but it doesn't make it illegal. >> this kind of discussion is like having the david copperfield and the hue teenie of politics over here. we're trying to move things
around, but slight of hand on one side so we don't focus back on russia. i think trump has been a master at that. we ought to be talking about the investigation into -- >> you can't keep talking about -- >> michael, let michael finish, lease. >> you want to talk about the clintons over here while trump is trying o maneuver pieces ove. the collusion that we're talking about deals with trump and russia. trump going back and talking about that that he be released from the department of investigation, that's absolutely improper. >> absolutely. >> we have to wrap it there. i know everybody wants to jump back in, but we're going to start another conversation when we come back for newsroom. thank you so much. >> thank you, guys. >> and another thing -- >> always another thing. >> u.n. ambassador nikki haley says the u.s. could face a
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welcome back. i'm rene marsh in for christi paul this morning. >> i'm victor blackwell. this morning, the crucial probe into the russian meddling in the 2016 election. a federal grand jury the in washington has approved the first charges in this case. >> and special counsel robert mueller is leading the investigation. he is focusing on potential collusion between the trump campaign and russia as well as obstruction of justice by the president. cnn has reported that mueller and investigators on capitol hill are scrutinizing trump and
his associates financial tie toes russia. pamela you brown helped to break this story. she has more on the new revelations. >> it's unclear what the charges are because, as i pointed out, the indictment is still under seal and it's not clear whether those under indictment have been notified. a spokesman declined to comment for this, but as we have been reportinging, mueller was appointed in may to lead this investigation into russian meddling in the 2016 u.s. election. and under the regulations governing special counsel investigations, deputy attorney general rod rosenstein would be made aware of any charges before they were taken before the grand jury. on friday, we had a producer there who saw a flurry of activity, including the veteran prosecutor andrew wiseman entering the courtroom at the d.c. federal court where the grand jury meets to hear testimony in the investigation. so now we're learning that the
first charges were filed. so this is certainly a big moment in this investigation that began more than a year ago and robert mueller took over in may and now we're seeing the first charges. >> all right. and mueller's team is examining foreign lobbying conducted by former trump campaign manager paul manafort over the course of the investigation. mueller has issued subpoenas for documents and testimony for people close to.manafort. >> analyst michael zelden says mule ser most likely honing in on manafort's financial dealings with foreign governments and we spokes to our anderson keeper. here is part of that conversation. >> if it was andrew w with eissman who was at the courthouse, he has been on the manafort case and it might be logical to conclude that it is manafort. manafort has been under scrutiny for both collusion and his real estate dealings and tax and money laundering investigations.
so you could have an investigation of manafort separate from the collusion, but which implicates his dealings with the monies that he earned in ukraine and elsewhere overseas. >> well, mueller's probe is just actually one piece of the russia investigation. three committees on capitol hill are also investigating. president trump has consistently dismissed the investigation as a hoax. he tweeted just yesterday, it is commonly agreed after z months of costly looking that there was no collusion between russia and trump. was collusion with hc, referring to hillary clinton. well, deal with extremists or we'll have to deal with them here in the united states. that's the warning coming from u.s. ambassador to the united nations nikki haley. >> she spoke with cnn while on a different diplomatic mission in
africa. >> am basser door nikki haley given an extensive interview to cnn after a three-nation tour across africa where she got a firsthand glimpse at some of the region's most brutal comments. >> it's so important everybody not talk about the middle east and we have to be careful about the middle east. you see the actions that the administration has taken in the middle east, it's all because we want to deal with the situation there so we don't have to deal with it in the united states. it is the same thing for africa. >> nikki haley on her toughest diplomatic mission to date, going head to head with african strong men in south sudan and congo. >> i know what being a politician is like and i know what they're capable of and what they're not capable of. so when they start to talk about what they don't control, i remind them that they do. >> and warning of the misery they're causing in their countries could produce the next terrorist haven to launch attacks against the u.s. after the ambush in niger that killed four american soldiers. in syria, a new u.n. report
found president asas sad repeatedly used chemical weapons, sa ri n and mustard gas against his people. >> that is the most unconscionable act a dictator can do. >> when is the u.s. going to step up? they say it's time for him to go and make sure he goes. >> the united states has been very clear. there is no future with assad in power. >> when does the future startgy getting rid of assad? >> you have russia holding their hand. so it's not as easy as saying, we're going to go and take russia out. you have iran supporting the situation. >> haley says now that the u.s. has destroyed isis in syria, the u.s. has its eye on assad. >> we're not done. this is still playing out. this is all still happening. >> so you do see u.s. actions that could effectively push assad out? >> i think you can -- it's not that we are going to push assad out. but we're not going to let chemical weapons happen. we're not going to let iran take over. we're not going to allow any of those things to happen. those are all strategically
planned on how we go with about going forward. but the overall message in that is we are not going to stand by a cruel dictator that uses chemical he kal weapons on his own people. >> with congress debating the future of iran's nuclear deal, haley wants the u.n. to act against tehran's missile program that will deliver a nuke. >> if if we'll sanction north korea for that, why are you allowing iran to get a pass? we've seen that. we know what happens. we've played this game before. we're not going to do it again. >> president trump considered haley to be his secretary of state before sending her to the u.n. now with rumors rex tillerson is considering an early exit, h had aley once again says she's happy where she is, away from the drama of washington. >> what if the president came to you and said, you know what, nikki? you said no once. we need you to serve. >> we have a secretary of state. >> but what if you comes to you? what if secretary tillerson says, i have enough.
i'm done. and the president says, nikki, i need you. >> i've made it very clear that i'm happy in new york. >> you wouldn't take it? interest i would not take it. >> she faced the same as a republican governor in south carolina. she also defended the president from the criticism on issues like charlottesville and the nfl. saying her boss is misunderstood and people are too quick to criticize him. elise labott, cnn. still to come, gop infighting escalates and steve bannon's anti-establishment movement is emboldening candidateses for congress in the midterms. why two tea party candidates would you remember from the 2010 insurgency say it's time for a change. we'll talk with him, next.
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well, president trump says do not underestimate the unity within the republican party and everything is fine. but the political atmosphere suggests otherwise. this week, senators bob corker and jeff flake slammed the president as irresponsible and dangerous. meantime, former whiteout strategist steve bannon is promising an all-out war against his challengers in the midterm elections. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell pushed back saying they've tried alternative with the candidates with the rise of the tea party back in 2010 and look how that turned out. >> back in 2010 and 2012, we nominated several candidates, christine o'donnell, sharron angle, todd ache b b, richard
murdoch. they're not in the senate. and the reason for that was that they were not able to appeal to a broader electorate in the general election. my goal as the leader of the republican party in the sneenat is to keep us in the majority. the way you do that is not complicated. you have to nominate people that can actually win because winners make policy and losers go home. >> joining us now to discuss those candidates, sharron angle, currently running for congressional seat in nevada and joe miller, who is in alaska there, run for the office in alaska in 2010, as well. good to have to you both of you. sharron, i want to start with you. leader mcconnell called you out by name. your race against then democratic leader harry reid was a winnable race. polls showed you ahead or within the margin of error.
reid won by about six points. is leader mcconnell right? >> i've remained graciously silent for the last seven years, but i'm not going to be silent any longer while he personal areally attacks me from the white house steps. senator mcconnell is a terrible person who has done terrible things to republicans and to the american people. and it's time he resigned. >> so you say a terrible person whos has done terrible things. what are they, from your perspective? >> he isn't helping the president. he's not interested in repealing obamacare. he's not interested the in tax reform. he's only interested the in establishment agenda that benefits his family and friends. and as long as he's not interested in what the american people are interested in, he is no longer viable in the office that he's holding and i'm asking him to resign. it's time. >> so, joe, your race is a bit
different, but i think it gets to a point that many people are discussing here. you edged out senator lisa moisture cowsky in 2010 of the gop primary, but she held her seat through a write-in campaign. voters aren't rejecting republicans or conservative principals as maybe some of the establishment would say that they're rejecting extremes. what would you say to that? >> the reason that candidates like sharron angle, myself, others that have run and stood behind the constitution, fundamental values that americans hold true is because republicans eat their own. .mitch mcconnell is directly responsible for that. in fact, mitch mcconnell, not just in my race but in other races absolutely did to make sure that people he cannot control do not get elected. that's the key. he does not want people in washington, d.c. that are going to be what he sees as loose cannons, that do exactly what he
and his ee lite lead backers want. that is the problem facing the american people on both sides of the aisle. you have democrats and republicans that believe that they can control the process and not allow the people through the election box to actually tell them who they want to represent them and their interests. >> of course, the question comes, how much of the loss comes down to the candidate and the plausibility that they can win statewide? let's look at alabama here. the first big win for some of the outsiders. judge roy moore winning over luther strange who was the place holder there. let's put up the latest fox poll. he's now tied. there has not been a democrat elected statewide in decades here. are we seeing a repeat, sharron, of 2010 with nominating someone that maybe many in the party would call extreme and opening up a lane for a democrat where there otherwise would not be one? >> what we're seeing is a repeat
of what happened to me. right after my nomination, i went and see a meeting and he said to me, i know harry reid and i understand harry reid and i can work with harry reid, meaning he wants me to quit and he wants me to quit now. but we're not ready to quit on our country. we want constitutional conservativism if we want to see our country come back to the great america ta we once new. and what we're seeing right now is him undermining a campaign. >> steech bannon saying he's going after every republican who is up who isn't retiring and adding ted cruz to that list because they're not committed to the trump agenda. this is how often they vote with
president trump. snow less than 90%. is that not enough i would suggest what is enough are people that are going to affect what the people want. and if you've got on the edges -- a lot of what the senate does is administrative, but there are core votes like, for example, the repeal of obamacare. you had over a hundred people in the senate and the house campaign on repeal of obamacare. and pore seven years, the republicans have said that's our deal. we're going to make it happen. mcconnell specifically said that. yet when push comes to shove on those very important votes, what happens? of course those that want to back, you know, basically the policies that benefit the elite end up winning out instead of the american people. >> but every single one of those senators voted or would have voted for the plans that were put forward. i've got to wrap here because we have breaking news happening however night. but i thank you for being a part of conversation. and still to come, should the u.s. risk losing the last great wild salmon run to dig up
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talk to anybody. >> his mentor is brad, a naturalist guide who has been bringinging tourists here for 15 years. bunched together in tight focused groups, safety in numbers, he figures. >> i've traveled all around the world looking for wildlife. and there's no experience like this where we go in and we basically get along with an animal who almost everywhere else in the world hates people. >> under strict orders from the parks department never to approach these animals, we find a spot in the meadow at that to wait and watch. and within minutes, we're surrounded. >> one, two, three, four, five. six, seven. eight, nine, ten. it's rush hour.
11. >> wow, that looks like an amazing experience. he is lye here live with us now. what stood out the moster for you during that trip? >> well, we went up to enjoy the salmon run. all those bears were hanging out and waiting for the fish to roll in. every summer, 50 million of these stream from the ocean up into the land and they sort of defy gravity. they go uphill jumping to dams and rivers to the exact spot where they are in order to spaup. and that is one of the last pristine areas left on the planet feeds everything, the fox and eagles and the wolfs and the people to the tune of 50 million. it's half the world's population. so it's such an amazing phenomenon. but we also wanted to see this brand new threat that has bubbled up again since the trump administration took over. >> tell us more about that. there is this threat and potential environmental threat to the salmon that you're talking about. >> really, it's a fundamental
question on our planet. which is more important. the minerals we need for all the devices in our life or the ecosystem that provides that frush food. so they discovered what they think may be the biggest gold and copper mine above the head waters of bristol bay. in order to get it with, they're going to have to create a hole three times bigger than the biggest mine on the planet. they would have to create these giant lakes of toxic by-product, sulfuric az waste. so the fishing community and the environmental community has been afraid for years that if they develop that mine, it's going to kill this unbelievable pristine fishery up there. so you've got republicans, fishing republicans versus mining republicans have been fighting for a while. now that the trump administration has taken he over, i they seem to be siding with the miners. they are absolutely siding with the miners. bill weir, thank you so much. watch "the the wonder list"
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