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>> i am the least racist person that you have ever met. i am the least racist person. >> i don't think that president trump is a racist. i think president trump is racially ignorant or racially uninformed. >> do we need more hatians? and then he went on and he started to describe the immigration from africa calling the nations they come from shitholes. >> president trump, haiti is not what he called it. >> we should hear from some of the republican house members who
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were in that oval office. >> this is "new day" weekend with victor blackwell and christie paul. >> it is the beginning of martin luther king jr. weekend. dedicated to justice, equal rights, opportunity for many but the president of the united states is facing growing international backlash for comments that a racist. >> the african union is demanding an an polg after he reportedly said he did not need more immigrants from quote, shithole countries. and democrats are now leading an effort to officially censure the president. all of this as the president spends the weekend at his resort. >> we're going to start with
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abb abbey phillip in washington. the president now has gone to his beach resort but washington still reeling after these comments on thursday. >> reporter: the president's comments are deemed not safe for children after he called these african countries a slur and refurred to haiti by saying that the united states doesn't need more immigrants from countries like this. this issue has once again thrust this question of whether the president himself is racist, whether he repeatedly says racist comment from the office and i think for some other people more importantly, whether he's seeking to shape the immigration system in a way that excludes people based on their country of origin. the white house has pushed back on this a little bit, but in a really unusual way, victor. instead of denying totally that it was said, they're now pointing us to a statement from two of the republican senators
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who were in the room with the president who don't say that the president didn't say what he's alleged to have said. they say something a little bit different. let me read you some of that statement. senator cotton said we do not recall the president saying these comments specifically, but what he did call out was the imbalance in our current immigration system which does not protect american workers and our national interest. this comment from these two senators are in direct contradiction to some of the other comments we're hearing from another democratic senator but also another senator lindsey graham. i said my peace directly to him yesterday. this is referring to president trump. the president and all of those at the meeting attending the meeting know what i said and how i feel. i've always believed that america is an idea, not defined by its people, but by its ideals. so graham there really strongly suggesting that there is truth to these allegations and that
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the president did in fact say something that required him to -- to confront him in that meeting. this is a really tough situation for the white house with a lot of democrats on the hill now calling for congress to censure the president, but victor, it seems very unlikely that something like that will gain any traction because a lot of republicans remain silent on this issue, particularly republican leaders. they are using the strategy they've used for much of the political life of president trump which is simply ignoring the most controversial of his statements and instead hoping that the problem will simply go away over time. >> thank you very much. we'll talk more about that effort to censure the president a little later this morning. >> and meanwhile the president's racist comments are getting worldwide condemnation. many african leaders are demanding an apology and a retraction. >> we're joined live. the president's comments have
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really created this international incident and now the african union is responding. >> well, that's right, victor. good morning. it's very unusual for the african union to go out like this and directly criticize the president of the united states. this now just in from ambassadors of the au to the united nations saying it's extremely -- they're extremely apalled and they strongly condemn the outrageous racist remarks contributed to the president of the united states of america as widely reported and this, victor, from the government just north of where i'm sitting now. we view the current american president as being highly irresponsible, reprehensible and racist. i think there's very little debate on the african continent today of whether the american president is a racist or not frankly.
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>> so david, we know that you have lived there for quite some time. help us understand what it is like there and put this reaction into context for us. >> well, certainly i'm from south africa and have worked and reported here for many years. there is a real sense from africans on social media saying that in fact, this is not a shithole place, they've been posting their own pictures online. i have some of my own here for you and it's not just the landscapes of africa that are breathtaking, it's obviously the people that are important and many people view the reported statements of the president not just as insulting to the place, but really taking a broad sweep at the people and i think what's important for africans and americans as well to note is that this is a very important region for the u.s. diplomatically. here in south africa we don't have a u.s. ambassador yet. it's more than around a year
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into the presidency and there's been a real sense of statements and hints coming out of donald trump's mouth that he doesn't really regard the continent very much. this is a real headache for the state department working to build relationships here in africa as well as the american military which is engaged with african allies in the fight against torr errerror. so and many telling me, perhaps president trump should visit the continent to see what it's really about. >> all right. thank you so much. for helping us really get a look at the personal side with you. we appreciate it. >> all right. iran says president trump has crossed a line and they are promising a severe response. the president has recertified the iran deal but as part of the deal he agreed to hold off on key sanctions for what he said was the last time. and as he certified that deal he announced new sanctions on 14 iranian individuals and entities
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and iran called the move hostile and illegal. let's turn now to this new report from the wall street journal. it says a lawyer for president trump arranged a six figure m t payment to an adult film star. >> this reportedly came just before the 2016 election. as for why it was allegedly paid, well, here's cnn's tom foreman. >> the big new claim in the wall street journal is this. a woman was paid $130,000 a month before the presidential election to keep quiet about a sexual encounter with donald trump. according to the story trump had this encounter with an adult film star who goes by the name of stormy daniels in 2006 at a celebrity golf tournament. the journal says this new report of hush money comes from people familiar with the matter. but the president's long time lawyer is hitting back hard saying these rumors have circulated time and again since
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2011. president trump once again denies any such occurrence as has ms. daniels. he did not directly address the payment but he did give a statement saying my involvement was limited to a few public appearances and nothing more. when i met donald trump he was gracious, professional and a complete gentleman to me and any in my presence. the fact of the matter is these stories are not true, she says. cnn has tried to reach ms. daniels for independent confirmation. we've not spoken to her yet and trump's lawyer have not provided contact information for her. if the alleged event did nonetheless take place it would have occurred the year after he married now first lady melania
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trump. the white house however is calling this old, recycled news, strongly denied prior to the election. >> all right. thank you so much. so the white house says the president, he's in excellent health after his physical exam. there's a group of medical professionals that sent a letter asking for his neurological health to be evaluated as well. and crews are searching for seven missing people in those deadly mud slides in southern california. we'll tell you what emergency workers are doing to find and rescue survivors. when heartburn hits... fight back fast with tums smoothies. it starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue... and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. ♪ tum tum tum tum... smoothies... only from tums essential for vinyl, but maybe not for people with rheumatoid arthritis. because there are options. like an "unjection™". xeljanz xr. a once daily pill for adults with moderate to severe ra
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this morning crews are looking for seven people missing in santa barbara, california. people have already died. 18 people dead and officials expect that number to increase. the rivers of -- look at this. the mud and huge rocks, boulders blooded neighborhoods near montecito. trees that have fallen, power
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lines are down. these roads are just impassable. >> but there are two local tourist boating companies that have found a way to help here. they're transporting people through the mud slides. there's one company that can transport about 140 people on a boat and it's running six boats a day. so meanwhile, first responders are working around the clock trying to, you know, find and rescue the people that they believe are indeed still trapped. cnn is in montecito. >> reporter: a week of endless challenges for tireless first responders when a mountainside fell on to a community. the destruction so vast it covered 30 square miles in rock and mud. >> there are no roads. there are no houses. it's just -- i'm so devastated by what i'm saying. >> reporter: rescue teams using bearca bearcats, to pluck people from
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homes. >> rethought about staying and then we were fine. we have -- we have power and we got internet going and we went to our hot spot on our phone and we have water. then the power went out. >> these bearcats four wheel drive and running high above the ground can go where no one else can. this team has pulled more than 30 people from danger. >> that first day tuesday morning was very surreal. we couldn't really comprehend the devastation until we got to the area and saw areas of homes that were wiped out and rubble and debris everywhere. >> reporter: look at some of the obstacles had to deal with. massive boulders that came rolling down the hills and you can see just over my shoulder, rocks and mud up to the roof tops. the round the clock hard work of first responders not lost on residents here. >> i was just going to put my hand out and say, i want to say
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thank you for your sacrifice. >> reporter: he stopped at a staging area to give thanks iffer the dignity first responders showed the victims. >> they stood at attention, they covered the body. they took their hats off. they shed a tear. and they treated that body like it was one of their own. >> reporter: the shoreline looks peaceful until a little perspective reveals muddy mayhem is everywhere. restoring paradise seems impossible sundown to sundown. >> thank you, paul. the president's racist remark about african countries is infuriating people and their governments around the world. so why are we hearing little to no reaction in some cases from republican leaders here in the u.s.? >> and take a look at your screen for a second. see that map? that's how widespread the flu is
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so good to have you here. 22 minutes past the hour. >> good to have you. as the president wakes up at his beach house in florida, the stench of his shithole remark has wafted around the world and it is infuriating leaders. during a meeting about immigration reform about republicans and democrats president trump asked why are we having all these people from shithole countries here referring to african nations. sources tell cnn the president loves the controversy surrounding his comment. let's bring in political
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commentators. now, gentlemen, first, good morning to you. >> good morning. >> second, this is not the first time as we know the president has said something that is at least racially insensitive. here is just a sample of what citizen and then candidates i should say proivate candidate hs said over the years. >> donald trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states. >> if you look at his wife, she didn't have anything to say. maybe she wasn't allowed to have anything to say. >> if the state of hawaii say this is official. he was born on this date. why do you deny that? >> a lot of people do not think it was an authentic certificate. a lot of people, his mother was not in the hospital. there are many other things that came out. >> haiti had sent 15,000 people, they all have aids, the president grumbled.
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40,000 had come from nigeria, mr. trump added once they had seen the united states, they would never quote, go back to their huts in africa. >> jews will not replace us. >> you look at both sides, i think there's blame on both sides and i have no doubt about it and you don't have any doubt about it either. >> i don't know anything about what you're even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists. >> congressman john lewis should help on fixing his district which is in horrible shape and falling apart. >> this is the same man sued by the department of justice and used to put a little c on black people's applications for color. >> the central park five, the young men wrongly convicted of raping a jogger in central park in 1989 were still indeed guilty. at the time trump called for new york to reinstate the death penalty. >> if they're found guilty, which the woman died, if the
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woman died i think they should be executed. >> when somebody disrespects our flag to say get that son of a bitch off the field right now. he's fired. >> negotiating with japan, negotiating with china, when these people walk in the room they don't say oh, hello, how's the beautiful. they say we want deal. they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists and some, i assume are good people. >> we're building a wall. he's a mexican. we're building a wall between here and mexico. let me ask you the first question here. is the president -- is the president racist? >> look, i think he can only be the one that answers that. i think these comments were clearly insensitive if they were said the way they've been reported. i think they were wrong for a president to refer to any
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country in this way. as soon as i heard them, i said, look, if this is what he said this is beneath the presidency. i also know that the president of the united states is an extremely blunt talker. i don't know if everything that you say whether it's right or wrong has to automatically considered to be racist. i think these comments are clearly wrong if he said them. people to immediately say i'm going to throw the racism on there because of where he was talking about in the world, i think donald trump probably wasn't thinking that far ahead in those comments. he probably clearly thinks about it the way he's been talking consistently which is he wants to keep america first. >> do you have to think ahead to political office when you're thinking about the equality between people? i think it's a phenomenal answer. i mean, remarkable i should say, to start your answer with well, only he knows if he's a racist. how do you -- let me ask you this. how how do you know a racist when you see one? >> i think everybody can be racist in a different way.
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i think some people can be straight up in your face. i think some people can do it quietly. so imply that everybody's racism exactly the same way i think is naive. can you agree with that? >> everyone's racist in the same way? >> no, in a different -- to say that everyone is racism in the way they show racism is going to be exactly the same way, there are a lot of people that are racist who aren't walking around as kkk members. it can be in a subtle way. people can be racist in different ways. >> but my question was to you how is the president racist, the question is, is the president racist? >> i'll say it again. i don't know if he is racist. you may not like that answer but as i said before these comments and what he said, i believe if in fact he said this it is absolutely wrong put it this way. >> all right. mark, is the president racist? n >> yeah the fist time you didn't
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say you didn't know. you said only he would know who would imply the only person would be able to decide whether they're racist. it's not the person who thinks about themselves, it's about what do, it's about how the world reads them. is donald trump racist? absolutely. we just gave two minutes of video and sounds it felt like of all the ways donald trump has demonstrated through his words that he's racist and through his actions. when you talk about for example denying people to housing because they have a c on the application and the c refers to color, that to me is not just about your belief, it's about taking your prejudice and turning into power. when you say that the judge doesn't have the capacity to be objective because he's mexican is making a claim about someone's ethnicity and race and linking that to the intellectual ability. that is racist. when you refer to africa and haiti, african nations and haiti
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as blank hole countries that is an example of racism and to say yeah, maybe he wasn't thinking about race, i find it hard to believe that the president wasn't thinking about black people when he mentioned africa of all places. that's a bit of a stretch. >> and suggesting that more people should be coming from norway. this is john kasich with jake tapper responding to some of the stronger statements we've heard from republican members of congress. watch this. >> you don't have to be, you know, viciously attacking him or personally attacking him, but these comments are inappropriate and frankly, the party ought to say it's inappropriate. so what? frankly he ought to apologize for it. okay it's not a big deal. i had to apologize to somebody that i did something inappropriate to, not that i'm the saint of everything or that, you know, all these answers, but it just takes a little i'm
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sorry. >> mark, it takes just a little i'm sorry. that could clean this up. and the governor there saying it's time to move on. >> well, the irony is for someone like donald trump saying i'm sorry would be like the biggest deal because he doesn't do that. it doesn't move things on. one because he's denied it up to this very moment. but more importantly, this is not just about his own individual prejudices about the world. it's about the fact he's in the highest office in the land and through that office he has the ability to enforce and leverage his prejudice in ways that can hurt people so that's what donald trump believes. i want to figure out how we can make this different in a way that leads to change. >> ben, let me come back to you with what we're hearing and not hearing from republican leadership. after the -- and i went back and read their comments. after the access hollywood tape was released speaker ryan said
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he was sickened by what he heard. mitch mcconnell called it repugnant. after shore latsville, ryan said there are no sides and the president messed up saying there are good people on both sides. and ryan called the president's shithole comments from the oval office unfortunate and unhelpful and nothing from mcconnell so far. why are we hearing so little from paul ryan and nothing from mcconnell? >> well, to be honest with you i don't know. i don't know what the downside is of saying what something is. i've always said if you disagree with something you should come out and explain why. i think that these comments, if the president said them the way they've been reported are wrong. i think the president should come out and say that his words were poor choice of words, that he's sorry that he put these countries in this perspective, that this came out this way and he should apologize for that and i think any other republican out there should not worry so much about maybe necessarily
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protecting the president and his words. let them stand for what he said but if you're asked about it i have no problem saying that what the president said in that meeting was clearly inappropriate. it's inappropriate for the president of the united states of america to refer to any country in this way. it's not the way you want the president to talk about any country in the world regardless of what's going on and that's where i think republicans need to be very clear, there are certain things that it's absolutely okay to walk out there and say i disagree with the characterization the president had today about this issue or about this country and that is a healthy dialog that should -- that should be created. i also think though, will are a lot of people that play defense because when you and i started this interview, you didn't like my first answer and you jump on me for it and i think that's the reason why people shy away from being blunt because they feel like people are going to pile on them and make it a bigger issue. >> i'm sorry you think i jumped on you.
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but i asked is the president racist and i think in any other administration there would be a clear yes or no especially from a member of the president's own party but for your answer to be only he knows he's racist i thought that deserved a followup. >> here's what i'll say. in the clips that you showed setting up the piece about donald trump a moment ago, remember during the same time in some of the same moments when that was going on jesse jackson was giving an award to donald trump. you going to call him out for that? >> is that the defense that jesse jackson gave donald trump an award so he probably isn't racist? >> my point is this. why did he give him an award when some of the things that you were showing were going on at the time were also in his past at that moment. >> i don't know. maybe donald trump wrote a check. i don't know. i don't know why jesse jackson gave him an award but if the defense is that well, he can't be a racist, jesse jackson gave him award, ben carson is the top
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of urban housing and development. >> that's not what i'm saying. if you're going to come out and man date that every single republican say there's only one right answer that the president is a racist when i'm thing you, i don't know his heart, he's the one that knows his heart, i this think these comments right now are wrong and incorrect the same way that i don't know why jesse jackson gave him an award when some of the issues that you're talking about right now were going on during that time and i think it's unfair to say that -- >> i'm not saying -- i've got to get mark in here, but it's not like a right or wrong answer from you. i just wanted an answer. >> when has the conservative movement ever looked at jesse jackson for moral authority on race? when have they ever said jesse jackson said it's true, it's true. when have they used jesse jackson says is a piece of evidence the other thing is that jesse jackson is not an elected
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official. i'm not looking to him to speak on donald trump because he's not in office right now. he doesn't have the power of the senate, he doesn't have the power of the house. i'm asking senate republicans to denounce him because they're in power in the same way i would ask jesse jackson if he were the speaker of the house but he's not and to throw in that jesse jackson distraction is bonkers to me and as far as his heart, i don't care what donald trump's heart. i'm worried about what donald trump says and does and he has shown himself to be racist. >> we've got to wrap it there but you, mark have asked for republican leaders to denounce the president. denounce or defend. you are a leader, say something. >> do something. >> that's the request. thank you both. thanks. well, the white house says that the president is in excellent health after donald trump gets his first known physical since taking office. we're going to take a closer look at some unique dietary
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sick, particularly older people. unfortunately that doesn't mean that younger people are spared. about 20 children have died of the flu so far this year. now, the season started particularly early and it's peaking hopefully right now. that's what the experts think which hopefully means that certain areas of the country will be seeing relief soon. for those of you that got the flu shot the cdc says that was the right thing to do but the shot was only 30% effective. but still the cdc says 30% is better than nothing. back to you. all right. well, president trump got his first official medical checkup yesterday. the white house -- if first official i should say since he's been in office. the doctor said the exam went exceptionally well, the president is in excellent health. more detailed results will be released next week. here's what we know about the president's health. when he was running for president, mr. trump received an unusually glowing assessment from his personal doctor. you remember this? a letter the doctor wrote at the
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time, quote, if elected mr. trump, i can state unequivocally will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency. now, when it comes to exercise, the president has an interesting theory. he told the washington post he believes the human body is like a battery and that exercise uses up too much of our energy. the president does golf frequently although he tends to rely on a golf cart rather than walking the whole way and he is no stranger to fast food admittedly. >> i think all of those places, i can live with them. i had kentucky fried chicken. not the worst thing in the world. >> so a book written by the former campaign manager for president trump reveals more about his eating habits. in let trump be trump, he writes that his typical fast food order is two big maces, two filet of fish sandwiches and a chocolate
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milk shake. that's 2,470 calories. the recommended daily calorie intake is right at 2,500 so it's close. a new book is calling the president's mental health into question as well in "fire and fury" author michael wolff writes people around the president believe he is mentally unstable. president fired back at these accusations say he is quote, like really smart and a stable genius. the president's exam didn't include any psychiatric tests. the results are going to be released on tuesday. so our senior political analyst and professor at princeton university, good to see you. i just want to reiterate that white house doctor ronnie jackson who did this latest exam said the president is quote, in excellent health. he's going to give us details on tuesday. what details should we expect to hear? >> not many. these releases are pretty
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controlled, so we hear some basics about his weight, about his heart condition but we shouldn't expect to get everything and there's a long history where doctors didn't tell us everything that's going on with the physician so we should get the basics from a checkup and probably not much more. >> and president trump has the final green light essentially to -- in terms of what will be released. is that right? >> absolutely. so this is like all information from the white house. it's somewhat controlled. this is not unique to president trump. this is how the white house handles these kinds of health checkups. >> it is common place. so i wonder if this is common place and you tell me. 75 health professionals signed a letter urging the doctor to evaluate president trump's neurological health and i want to read to you exactly what it says. it says your examination should also include a basic dementia screen, and as thorough a neurological exam as you can
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perform. is it common for a group of doctors to lobby the white house to conduct specific tests? >> no, this kind of attention certainly on the mental fitness of the president is something many physicians have refrained from doing since the early 1960s when there is suggestions that the republican candidate barry gold water was mentally unstable and since then psychologists for example have stayed away from making any kind of diagnosis about someone. it's called the goldwater rule. because of the book, because of trump's activities on twitter and his statements doctors are weighing in that at least the physician with the president should take a look at this. >> so let me ask you this. if a health report was negative, if there was something alarming, would we know about it? would it make any difference? >> we wouldn't necessarily know about it, because this will be white house information. i think the more interesting question though that you're
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raising, if we did know about it, would it make a difference? and we are now in an era where it's not clear that bad news for the white house necessarily translates into bad political news for the president. so i'm sure if there was bad information that was released, negative information about a checkup, there would be ways in which the president and his advisors would spin this and his supporters would see it in a way that fits with the image of the president actually being healthy. so we're in a period where information doesn't always have the intended affect or rational effect based on what you would expect. >> good to know. thank you so much for that thorough description. we appreciate. we're going to be right back. >> thank you. when heartburn hits... fight back fast with tums smoothies. it starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue... and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. ♪ tum tum tum tum... smoothies... only from tums
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right here fotomorrow night. >> here's a preview. >> do you ever get attached to alion? is it some animal like that -- >> all animals, doesn't matter what animals it is. you'll get attached to them. you'll go out there every day, you see this animal, you're feeding him, the buffalo, of course, but there will be a time when you have to let go. >> we spoke with the legendary founder of the institute. >> give me one animal that's ever gone extinct while farmers were making money out of it.
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>> i can't answer that. i don't believe that one animal has gone extinct, but what i find so totally abhorrent is keeping animals alive and on this planet simply to make money out of their horns or their hides or whatever else it is. >> and is there truth to that premise that the money from some of these big trophies goes into conservation? >> well, let's hope a little of it does, but from what i've been told by my friends on the ground and i have no firsthand knowledge of this but i'm told again and again that very little of that money, either goes to conservation or to improving the lives of the local people who are very often drawn in and given jobs, temporary jobs and they're left in poverty with a handout perhaps, a bit of meat. >> i want to ask you about that case that grabbed the attention
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of so many americans a couple of years ago and that was the lion where the american dentist went to zimbabwe and killed this renowned lion by luring him out of his sort of safety conservation area and you know, everybody was so apalled by how this could happen and the dentist wasn't convicted of anything or seemingly held responsible. what are the rules? >> well, the rules can be bent if you have enough money. that's usually the answer, but i wrote about this considerably and i think one of the things that's important to realize is this lion caused an international uproar because he was samed cecil and he was part of -- he had a radio collar and he was part of some research. but just because he had a name doesn't mach him different from all the other lions who are
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shot. i think what's been happening with all this trophy hunting is that the hunter wants to go for the best and the biggest, the long ers horn, the longest tusk, the most splendid mane and this has to have a long-term effect on the species. >> but as you know, president trump's sons enjoy trophy hunting and now president trump is considering lifting the ban on importing elephant trophies. what would that mean? >> he did lift the ban but there was so much international outrage that he stopped lifting the ban and what it means is that it's even easier for the hunters to go and shoot these incredibly magnificent animals and import the horns or the tusks or the hides or whatever it is with no problem at all. just to show off to people.
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when you look at that list of animals that you can go and shoot and the price that you have to pay, it's utterly shocking. i find it not surprising that there's so much violence in our species when you think of the violence perpetrated against animals for no reason at all except to brag. >> so what's the solution from where you sit? >> well, one solution is the institute has a program for young people who includes young people from kuindergarten throuh university and one of the things that's happening with this youth program is that in countries like china, other asian countries where there is a demand for illegally poached rhino, horned elephants and so forth and so helping to educate the people that this ivory comes
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as a result of killing a beautiful animal. a lot of people in china don't realize that. >> be sure to watch "trophy" tomorrow here on cnn. we'll be right back. mary's vintage clothing and designer shoe collection were ruined. luckily, the geico insurance agency had recently helped mary with renters insurance, and she got a totally fab replacement wardrobe at bloomingdale's. mary was inspired to start her own fashion line, exclusively for little lambs. visit geico.com and see how affordable renters insurance can be. kayak compares hundreds of travel and airline sites so you can be confident you're getting the right flight at the best price. cheers! kayak. search one and done. but when we brought our daughter home,
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are you racist? >> i am the least racist person that you have ever met. i am the least racist person. >> i don't think that president trump is a racist. i think president trump is racially ignorant or racial uninformed. >> do we need more hatians? and then he went on when he started to describe the immigration from africa calling the nations they come from shitholes. >> president trump, haiti is not what he called it. >> we should hear from some of the republican house members who

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