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i couldn't ask for a better partner. good friday morning everyone. i'm poppy harlow. >> i'm john berman. if the president is canceling a trip to florida, it must be serious. moments ago the white house announced the president will not leave for mar-a-lago unless a bill to keep the government running is passed. they might have to live for a while without some vitamin d. a republican congressional insider tells cnn this is going to get worse before it gets better. with less than 15 hours to go now on the official countdown clock, there is a full-scale standoff in the senate. >> my colleagues, where is the urgency here? the reason we're here right now is our friends on the other side say solve this illegal immigration problem right now or we're going to shut the
government down. >> there is an urgency. there's an urgency in their lives because of the uncertainty of tomorrow. whether tomorw wil mean deportation for themselves and their families, yes, there a re urgency. >> i find it rather disingenuous to say we're against this short-term continuing resolution because we want another short-term continuing resolution. >> this resolution kicks the can down the road. there is no promise and no likelihood that another kicking of the can down the road will get something done. we have to sit down together and solve this. >> just a small sampling of the lack of love between republicans and democrats right now. democrats refusing a stop-gap extension of government funding unless it provides protections for d.r.e.a.m.ers. republicans refusing to give that protection right now. >> what will happen today? for what it's worth, the last time the government shut down not that long ago, fall of 2013, a prominent voice said essentially so what? quote, here's the truth, wrote
donald trump. the government doesn't shut down, all essential services continue. don't believe the lies. now president trump says a shutdown would be, quote, devastating to our military, accusing democrats of demanding, quote, illegal immigration and weak borders. he's said to be working the phones non-stop with the one-year anniversary of his presidency tomorrow, not something he wants to mark that with. ryan nobles is on capitol hill. how are things looking this morning? >> reporter: not very good, john and poppy. you showed the evidence that the president canceling his trip to mar-a-lago is evidence that they're not that close to come up with a deal. more reporting from manu raju, with the two most important people in the conversation, senate majority leader and senateinity leader haven't spoke since last night where they had choice words for each other. here is how things will shake out today. at 10:00 most of the 34e78 bevers of the senate will be
here on capitol hill. that's when they'll separate and go into separate rooms and have closed door meetings to talk about the state of play. then at 11:00, they will gavel into session. that means at that point they only have 13 hours to come up with a deal. at some point they'll be a vote on cloture. no one believes that vote will pass, but it is a necessary step to get to some sort of resolution, and then if there's no deal struck at 12:01 on saturday morning, the government will shut down. the negotiations have stalled. there are no conversations between either side. it's clear there are not the 60 votes necessary to pass the house version of this continuing resolution. that means if a deal is hatched, it will be a completely new bill passed by the senate that will have to go back to the house in order to get through and keep the government open. the chances of the government not being shut down tonight continue to fade in the distance, as we see the speaker
of the house walking right behind us, john and poppy. >> urgently, walking with pace right there. >> and past the reporters. >> it's going to get worse before it gets better. it's awful now. who are the senators you're looking at right now? who are the key votes? >> they're both democrats and republicans involved in this. it's important to point out while they need at least ten moatic votes, the number increases when you take some republicans into the mix. first you've got lindsey graham and rand paul, republicans who have both said they're not voting for this continuing resolution for different reasons. then you have some yes votes that were a bit of a surprise, mike rounds who initially said he wasn't going to vote for it believes there's going to be protections put in for the military. he is now a yes vote. joe manchin is an interesting vote. he's a democrat from west virginia in a trump-friendly state up for re-election. he's not the only one in that position. that's mitch mcconnell's hope, that he can pull more people
like joe manchin over to his side to try to get this bill over the finish line. at this point, john and poppy, joe manchin is the only democrat that has said he'll vote yes. >> ryan nobles, we'll let you run down the speaker of the house behind you. off you go. we're getting new information meanwhile about how the white house feels about all of this. abby phillip is there for us this morning. what are you hearing? >> reporter: good morning. this shutdown threat is scuttling the president's plans to go down to florida. a white house official told cnn's jeff zeleny this hour that the optics, they recognize the optics of this would be absolutely terrible and that he really can't go if the government shuts down. so here we are a few hours away from that very prospect and the white house still thinks they can get a deal. they want to keep the govnment
funded by proposing this shfrm bill. that's a sign at least to one senior administration official i talked to that they can get something done before the deadline. at the same time we're hearing that the president last night was working the phones as was white house chief of staff john kelly, also some senior aides, legislative director mark short, director of management and budget nick mulvaney, they're headed to the hill today to work this issue. the question is what is it going to take to get democrats and republicans on board. there are still no answers even from the white house here despite the optimism about what it will take to get a deal through at this late hour. john and poppy? >> abby phillip, thank you very much. as john said, the president is going to wait for his vitamin d in florida until they can get something done. with us is our panel, errol louis, and molly ball, cnn political analyst. nice to have you here. the word from phil mattingly,
from an aide, it's going to get worse before it gets better. how much worse is it going to get before shutdown? what happens here, celina? who do you think blinks at this point. you look at the polling and there's risk equally spread for democrats and republicans in this one? >> absolutely. i think that both parties face a problem. i don't know how permanent the problem is. on the one hand, the republicane he majority in theouse and the senate. you can argue that they'll face the biggest problem. also, the democrats have run as the party of the resistance. so you know they could also face a problem. i think most americans are looking at this and saying there they go again. you look at the approve rating of congress which is like 17 percentage points.
it's not like people have an expectation that they'll get any better. at 17%, which is a number congress has held for a decade, they still have an 80% to 90% retention rate when elections come up. so i don't know who is the biggest loser here. honestly, i think it's the establishment, period, in both parties. >> i can tell you because i've been hearing from republicans all night and all morning, they feel better about this now. they like what their positioning is now. they think the framing of this by saying that democrats are choosing the d.r.e.a.m.ers, choosing people brought here illegally over the c.h.i.p. kids, over the military -- again, there's flaws with that argument. they feel like they positioned this as well as they can. we'll see. the other way to look at this, what salina was saying, when it's a big mess, who do you blame? jennifer ruben, no fan writes if
he were a chief executive of the private company, the president who was supposed to make government run like a business would be fired. errol louis, d you think bed on how the president is playing this that he understands the perils there? >> i think everyone is trying to figure out who is going to get blamed. they're spending more time in blame than trying to solve it. the president by reversing himself yesterday, he said he was going to be going to mar-a-lago regardless of what happened. they seem to have dialed that back. he realizes, oh, there's going to be a problem here. in every corner of the country, if the shutdown does happen, there will be people going to national parks, going right here to the statue of liberty, to show all the people who won't be able to visit the symbol of freedom, there could be negative effects on the stock market, the big rally he claims credit for could come to an end or sputter.
there are people who do business with the government and they have to reassess where they are and it could have effects on the stock market. i think the president is going to understand he's not going to escape this. members of congress, it's a different story. >> he said as much, guys. back in 2013, here is what then citizen trump said. >> the president, in all fairness, he's the leader. he has to get everybody in a room and get it done. they're not going to be talking about bader and reid, they're going to be talking about president obama and whacht a disaster the administration was. he has a lot of pressure to get this problem solved. he's got a big problem. >> molly? >> well, i don't get a lot of chances to say this, but i think trump was exactly right. we saw that in the 2014 i remember in the 2013 shutdown there was so much of a belief that republicans were going to take the blame for it and they did trop precipitously on the generic ballot in the immediate
aftermath of the shutdown. look what happened about a year later in those 2014 midterms. all voters cared about is who is in the white house and that's whose fault they said it was. whether they were voting on the basis of the shutdown and whether it was a distant memory, i think salina is right, people look at washington and say it just doesn't work, i'm mad. who they take that out on does tend to be the party in power. in this case it's the republicans. i think a lot of people did have hope that the trump was speaking on that television show was the leader they would get, was a better negotiator than president trump, someone who can get republicans and democrats in a room, bang their heads together and make them get the deal done. in this case they did get the deal done and he did the opposite. he was the deal breaker, he blew the whole thing up. >> salina, you talk to a lot of people in these swing states, some of these states that voted for donald trump where some of the democratic senators are running for re-election.
what pressure do you think they're under? >> the democrats? the democrats like manchin and mccaskill and possibly brown in oh ohio, they do face pressure because there is a lot of unhappiness with democrats in those states. i honestly think the best thing for all of them, the best thing for washington, for trump, democrats, republicans, is for trump to do what he did -- i think it was last week, when we called all of them in and it was like an open mike show, just to see sort of how the sausage is made and to see how the negotiations go, i think that benefits all of them. and if they walk out of that room with a deal, with everybody getting a little bit of everything they wanted, i think washington ends up looking better and there's sort of a different crisis that's going to
impact what happens in november. >> okay, guys, also want to get you on this. there's new reporting this morning in the "wall street journal," errol louis, it's about stormy daniels, former adult entertainer who allegedly had a sexual encounter with president trump. he denies it. she denies it. what the "wall street journal" is reporting this morning is the private lawyer for trump, michael koencohen used a pseudo to pay her $130,000 in hush money. this is a rethport that has bee building. congress isn't talking on this. is this sell licious? what do you make of that? >> congress has no role in this. this is for the public to digest and decide if it means anything. i am stunned, i guess with
historical signhis tore hindsight going all the way back to nixon, the notion that this can come out and it's not in the top five stories. i read the "wall street journal" story as interesting operational sort of details on how you convey hush money and cover up your trail. michael koenen en seems to be great at this. >> is this the type of thing that will haunt the president. >> does this story about a porn actress have legs? of course, there's more details that will probably come out. with every iteration about trump and women, it dredges up the past. to the extent that our cover story this week is about all the women who are mad in this country and running for office as a result. the resistance is about women, the wave that's been building is about women. it's certainly just adding fuel to the fire. >> molly ball, salena zito,
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let me walk you through it. the "wall street journal" is reporting there was a sexual encounter in the summer of 2016 between this porn ar, stormy daniels and then candidate donald trump and that michael cohen, donald trump's lawyer, creating an llc so that he could pay stormy daniels $130,000, essentially to stay quiet about this alleged sexual encounter. cnn has not independently verified what the would street journal is reporting. a couple of noteworthy things about this llc, it is called essential consultants llc. it was created this the state of delaware. as you know, this is a state well known for providing a lot of privacy relative to other states for people who want to create these kinds of businesses. according to the formation documents of the llc that the "wall street journal" is reporting on, michael cohen is listed as the authorized person on these documents, and stormy daniels is listed as peggy
peterson. this appears to be a suit anymor pseudonym. the timing is very significant. remember, this llc according to the waut street journal was created in october of 2016. what this means is all of this went down days before the election. donald trump's lawyer creating an llc to pay off a woman to stay silent about an alleged sexual encounter in the final stretches of the general election. >> m.j. lee, thank you. this is all in the rupert murdock owned "wall street journal." joining us paul callan. delaware llc, this private company, why would someone use this for a payoff? >> delawae has a very liberal scheme to be fendly to corporations to allow them to form these groups. this was called essential consultants, llc. they don't require a complete
listing of all the officers of the llp. in the end it's eadifficult to trace it back. >> michael cohen's name is on it. >> if he had you as a lawyer, you'd advice him on this. might not good look, salacious, stormy daniels denies this. anything illegal about making a payment like this, something deemed hush money? >> it's probably not illegal. i say that because throughout corporate america, all these settlements and sexual harassment cases, many of which involve sexual encounters, some consensual, have confidentiality agreements with it. the date of the sexual encounter was 2006, however the alleged hush money is paid in 2016, right, during the presidential campaign. however, it appears to be legal in all respects except there has been one point that's been
raised which is could this be viewed as some kind of a campaign contribution by the trump organization if the money emanated from the trump organization to the trump campaign to protect the president's reputation. other than that, though, it does not appear to be illegal in any way. i'm not even sure it violates election law. >> a couple statements we have from michael cohen and also from stormy daniels here. michael cohen said these rumors have circulated time and again since 2011. president trump once again vehemently denies any such occurrences as has ms. daniels. daniels says, rumors i received hush money from donald trump are completely false. if i had a relationship with donald trump, trust me, you wouldn't be reading about it in the news, you would be reading about it in my book. she says i didn't receive hush
mon f money from donald trump. the "wall street journal" says she received it from the llc. >> her true name is stephanie clifford. when in a porn movie, stormy danielsment when she's receiving money from michael cohen and essential elements llc, she's called peggy peterson. i would say something looks fishy, just on the surface of this. >> what about where the money came from, if the payment was made, $130,000, is there a way to know, was it campaign contributions since it was made at the end of the campaign, october 2016? if it was, what questions does that raise? >> the questions that are raised in addition to the election contribution, you talk about money laundering. for instance, if somebody -- if this wednesday money that taxes hadn't been paid on, it depends on where the source of the money was. you're always looking to trace the money. a lot of times people create
these delaware corporations to make the money untraceable. that's not to say this didn't come out of a personal bank account in which taxes had been paid and it's perfectly legal. but you would trace the money and follow the money trail to determine legality in the end. >> thank you. we appreciate it, paul callan. coming up, the blame game. the president points the fenger at democrats saying they're the reason if the government shuts down. is he right? what does it mean for the midterms? a democratic congressman will join us next. you do all this research
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less than 15 hours away. >> and topics four, five, six, seven, eight, nine and ten. let's discuss this with eric swalwell. nice to have you here. good morning. you voted against the continuing resolution yesterday. you want to see, among other things, a deal for d.r.e.a.m.ers, a daca deal. here is what the polling tells us about how americans feel. a new cbs poll out this week, is it worth risking a government shutdown it was asked of the american voters over daca? 46% said yes. 48% said no. it's very split down the middle. as you know, the republican argument against you guys is, oh, you're willing to fight to protect these 800,000 d.r.e.a.m.ers at the cost of c.h.i.p., children's health insurance for 9 million kids in this country and at the cost of more stable funding for the military. is there risk for your party? >> first of all, it's not the
choice of d.r.e.a.m.ers versus keeping the government open. there's a host of issues with this partisan budget the republicans put together, whether it's the increase in defense spending, spending more on defense than w would spend on education o the environment or buildingoads to keep people out of traffic, that's one problem. also, as an intelligence committee member, this is the first continuing resolution i've ever seen us take away authority to control the intelligence in the united states and allows the u.s. to spend without. the dream act is part of it. when i look at a young man in my district, cal state hayward, a d.r.e.a.m.er on his way to become a police officer and for him going through the anxiety
that he can't stay here.
living two to three weeks at a time is no way to run the government and no way for people who work for the federal government to live. >> this is in the senate. senators will get to vote on this. some democratic senators in tough states for re-election, what's your message to them, to these democrats, and what would you think about a democrat who does vote for this continuing resolution? >> it's certainly a personal decision to reflect what you believe is best for your constituents. john, i will say a shutdown does not have to happen. the republicans control the white house, the senate and the house. they took a shot at their budget. they couldn't even get their own members fully on board. so that means you should go and now negotiate with the democrats. we're ready. i don't think we should assume a shutdown is coming. we're ready to negotiate. if you don't have all your members on board, now it's time to walk across t aisle and find democrats. i'm ready. i'm not saying i'm going to vote no if we have another vote today. >> you're saying you're -- what
has to change -- >> i'm saying i'm not going to vote no across the board. if they put something negotiated forward, i'm hoping to pass it. >> let me ask you about this. glenn simpson testified for a long time in front of your committee, the house intel committee a while ago. he's the founder of fusion gps that commissioned this dossier by christopher steel by the president and russia ties. it raises questions about potential money laundering between potential trump associates, et cetera, and russian associates. no clear answers. we're wondering have you seen in your house on the house intel committee any direct evidence of money laundering involving anyone in the trump orbit? >> i've seen a lot of evidence, poppy of money laundering, but it can't be tested or compared without subpoena power and third party validation. as you said, glenn symptom testified about leads he had about money laundering.
one of the favorite parts of my committee, it shows all the flaws this committee has had by the way republicans have been leading it. at one point a republican asked glenn simpson, how would we find out what has been alleged on money laundering? simpson curiously looked at the republican and said, well, you would have to subpoena that. the republican was acting as if they don't have subpoena power. we do have subpoena power. the problem is they're not willing to use it. you subpoena bank records, you subpoena travel records, subpoena telecommunication records, text message logs. we can find out whether these witnesses are telling the truth -- >> just to be clear, right now when you say you've seen evidence of money laundering having to do with the trump organization, not talking about paul manafort, the trump organization and the russians righ now. have you seen evidence, direct evidence beyond what glenn simpson said? >> beyond glenn simpson, yes -- evidence is not a conclusion. somebody saying i know they were using real estate to
have the russians invest in real estate
and that was bringing influence, that's something somebody has seen. that is not strong evidence. that's evidence that is worth testing and finding in other ways. we haven't been able to do that because we don't have republicans willing to use subpoenas. we have that power. >> it's an important point. it may raise questions. it's not direct evidence of money lawn during because russia invested in a golf course or property. we want to get you on hope hicks. you were going to hear from hope hicks, someone incredibly close to the president, an important adviser, his leading the communications effort. now she's not. you have no date for when she's going to come before your committee. you guys delayed it h. is after lewandowski and steve bannon didn't answer questions. is the white house sort of winning on this, the fact they've gotten it to a point where you say don't even come before us yet? >> the white house is certainly working with house republicans on this investigation hand in hand. i can't confirm ms. hicks. i can tell you we've had a senior administration official
who was supposed to testify today who did not. but what's most interesting is steve bannon came in earlier in the week and had the white house assert executive privilege or a least tell him he could not answer. the very next day corey lewandowski said he talked to the president the day before and he wasn't going to tell us anything that he has done since he left the campaign. at the same time we were talking to corey lewandowski, ten paces across in another room we were talking to an administration official who worked on the campaign, worked on the transition and still works in the white house today. that person said you can ask anything, i'm under no limitations. they are selecting choosing who can and can't answer questions. i think that's because it's an effort to protect the president from the people who know what happened. >> congressman eric swalwell, we'll let you get back to work, hopefully that work is figuring out a deal over the next few days. >> my pleasure. prosecutors say they were starved, shackle and never allowed to see the sun. we're talking about horrifying detales about what 13 california
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(distant) you comin', boy? sfx: (dog) gulp! woof. one meal a day, one shower a year. zero trips to the doctor or dentist. horrifying details have emerged out of califonia where police say these 13 siblings faced severe, pervasive and prolonged child abuse at the hands of those people, their parents. >> they pleaded no guilty to more than three dozen charges of torture and neglect. police have released gruesome details about the condition of these kids. stephanie elam following every detail of this case. officials call this depraved behavior. >> i don't know how else you can put it. listening to the litany of charges against this couple from the district attorney yesterday, as we listened to the things that these people were putting their children through, it's horrendous.
i want to give you an idea. 12 pounts of torture, 12 counts of false imprisonment, seven counts of abuse on adults, six counts of childabuse, one count of a lewd act on a child, that's only f david turpin. theyay thewere tieing up the children as punishment. it started out in ropes, and then even hog tieing the child. then it progressed to chains and padlocks over time, and it got worse. they would even leave them in the chains, the district attorney said, when they needed to relieve themselves. wouldn't even let them out of the chains for that. if they washed their hands above their wrist, that was considered playing in the water and they were punished. they were saying for two years the 17-year-old was planning this escape. when she did leave, she actually took one of her younger siblings with her. that sibling got scared and ran back to the house. the 17-year-old stayed on her plan and talked to police officers, but to give you an
idea of the kind of abuse that they were dealing with, the 17-year-old, the district attorney said, didn't know what medicine was. when they did finally get to talk to the rest of the children, they said several of them did not know what a police officer is. going through to take a look at how they had been treated, they said they're suffering from cognitive impairment. they also say they have nerve damage from the extreme and prolonged abuse they were getting, beatings and strangulation, all charged by both of the turpins, they have said they're not guilty, but if they're found guilty in this case, they're looking at 94 years to life in prison. they're being held on $12 million each. john and poppy. >> what happens to those kids now? stephanie, thank you for the reporting. we appreciate it. ahead, investors in wall street bracing for a shutdown this morning, the dow is flat. what happens if the clock strikes midnight tonight with no details. christine romans has that ahead. ♪ if you have moderate to seveaqre pl psoriasis,... ...isn't it time to let the real you shine through?
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potential government shutdown, wall street kind of slugging it off this morning. stocks opening a little higher ahead of all this uncertainty. >> chief business correspondent christine romans here, star of "early start." this?are the markets makg of >> the big debate is whether the markets aren't factoring it in or don't believe it's going to happen. mostly the tax cuts are so good for these companies, it's so good for their bottom line, that really it is still the tax cuts is the story on wall street, not necessarily the shutdown. a government shutdown is stupid, but it wouldn't be the end of the world. at least that's what the stock
market is telling us. >> what would it mean, though -- an end of the world for the stock market, but pain and debilitating for a lot of people who work pour the federal government. >> it's congressional malpractice. a government shutdown is congressional malpractice. if history is a guide, the last time it was 16 days, 850,000 workers furloughed. no reason to think it wouldn't be similar this time in terms of those numbers. the total cost was $24 billion. back of the envelope, ford economics is saying the cost to the american compamayor employe, $6 billion. air traffic controllers, the planes are still going to land. law enforcement, the investigations will continue. military and national security, that stays. the federal court staff, the trials and the like, and postal workers. what is closed, the national parks and monuments, although we're hearing that the white house is trying to find out ways to keep those open.
nih, if you're at the end of the line and want to get in one of these important plans, you wouldn't be able to do that. pass poured and visa processing, it's partially f byunded fees, that stays open. if there were a long shutdown, that eventually would >> last time around, talking about the terrible flu season, last time around in 2013, there were flu awareness programs and cdc flu tracking that was halted. we don't know. each agency will be able to make those decisions as they happen. so those are the real world implications of a government shutdown. again, not the end of the world if it's short, but it is really disruptive and stupid in the world's largest economy. >> the executive, by the way, the executive branch has a lot of discretion about how to handle it. we may be asking the questions to them tomorrow about this. christine romans, thank you very much. >> we appreciate it. coming up, commander in tweet as we approach the one-year mark of the president's presidency. a look at how twitter changed the world's most powerful office.
we are closing in on one year for president trump, one year since his inauguration. his approval ratings still at an historic low. >> by the way, as an anniversary present, he could get a government shutdown. you see how his approval rating compares to the three previous presidents. let's talk about this first year. joining us now to make sense of it all, douglas brinkley, cnn presidential historian. thank you for being here. how do you think history will look at this president? or the first year of this presidency? >> it is an asterisks president. nobody really believed he really is president and that's because
of the fbi, justice department constantly investigating him. you're waiting any day for a shoe to drop. so he's been -- had a cloud hanging over him throughout the year. there have been some concrete accomplishments, the economy is doing well and that's a big thing for a politician to have going for him. but alas, here we are, one year anniversary, and we have a government shutdown going in. when you have 35 or 7% approval rating, it is very hd tonite the country on anything. it is historic lows that you put up on your screen. >> you talk about the stock market, he said in jest yesterday, have you ever heard the phrase it is the economy, stupid? sure, this is really helping him, the jobs numbers and the stock market. where has he succeeded? >> theodore roosevelt once said about the justice department, jpmorgan was complaining about wall street and all, and tr said, my justice department, we know no ticker-tape. it is up and down. you might see it go down because of the shutdown.
where he really, i think, did well in his first year is border security. i think the idea that most americans want a tougher border with mexico, not the wall, but the idea of more apprehensions, i think in foreign affairs the tough stance with iran, perhaps the american embassy in jerusalem, you know, making that bold move might play out well in -- >> isis, syria and iraq? >> isis, syria and iraq and one surgical strike in syria, the chemical plant was flawless. it was a pinpoint precision mission and it worked. >> when you look back, you mention the investigation as something that has been a drag on the administration. but there have been other things that people look at as low points, independent of russia. >> number one for me, history will look terribly on the first year of trump is racism. the bigotry of charlottesville, the bigotry of comments he made about haiti and africa and el salvador. this whole game of theational
anthem and how he tried to orchestrate and enflam the country, very low marks on race relations for this president. and then infuriating our allies abroad, we're not like -- anywhere in the world anymore, who would have thought that great britain doesn't want our president to come make a visit and that's because the tweets have been so insulting to them every time they have a moment of national crisis. >> and that begs the question, what will take the lead in the narrative that is written about this president and the history books. will it be those things that you just mentioned, racism, et cetera, will it be the other accomplishments. so twitter cannot -- i can not overstate how it has impacted the highest office in the land. how do you see it? >> it may be the opening line sometime in his obituary, the president couldn't stop using twitter. it is just dominant. some day scholars will have multiple books of the -- following the history of the twitter, you know, as tweets are like policy. i don't think it worked well for him. i understand why he uses it.
but he puts himself in holes all the time, for example, using twitter to say that barack obama created a felony wiretapping, accusing a former president of a felony by -- in a cheap little twitter sendoff, you know. how is that going to ever look good in history? and at the core of it, the first year of trump is going to be seen as a revolutionary figure, that 35% sticks by him, and it is part of a kind of nationalist and some way xenophobic anti-immigrant movement going on in the world. he is simply the kingpin of that global energy right now. >> absolutely significant first year, i think, history will say, whether you look at that as a good or bad thing, that's up for interpretation. thank you for being with us. appreciate it. >> have a good shutdown free weekend. >> so much news. let's go to it. good morning, everyone. i'm john berman. >> i'm poppy harlow. the wheels in motion on capitol hill. from all indications they're just spinning and spinning and spinning while the clock keeps
ticking and ticking towards a potential government shutdown at midnight tonight, 14 hours away. senators from both parties meeting themselves, not together in a bipartisan way, but before they meet together in session, 14 hours until the government runs out of money. >> the republicans and democrats are talking, but talking with themselves, not speaking to each other. the situation is so critical that the white house now says the president will not go to florida if no deal is reached. really that would have been an awfully tough picture of the president in his guilded club while workers were -- >> bad optics. >> don't want that picture. we learned the white house officials will brief the press in just a few minutes. they will try to spin this, we'll take that to you, we'll bring that to you live. let's go first to capitol hill, cnn's sunlen serfaty is there on the status. where are we? we got the clock going, 15, 13 hours, 59 minutes until the shutdown, sunlen. >> it is never a good sign when both sides are not talking to each other. and yet here we are, under 14
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