Skip to main content

tv   CNN Tonight With Don Lemon  CNN  January 24, 2018 7:00pm-8:00pm PST

7:00 pm
division. don't forget, you can catch me and alison every weekday morning on new day, starting at 6:00 a.m. right now, cnn tonight with don lemon, the man starts right now. top of the hour, this is cnn tonight. we have big news on the russia investigation to tell you about. it comes straight from the president's mouth. he is looking forward to talking to special council robert mueller. his lawyer is responding to that tonight. this is a president who in the rose guarden back in june said he was willing to talk to mueller. then he said there may not be an interview. the president also spoke about
7:01 pm
hillary clinton, his chief of staff. and you'll hear all of it don't. we have more breaking news as well. robert mueller has given the president's lawyers possible topics he wants to ask as a possible interview with the president. mueller's team wants to question steve bannon about michael flynn and james comey. sources also saying. mike pompeo. it may be no coincidence. conservative media is full of talk about a secret society inside the fbi. there's no evidence, no proof it exists, but the idea presumably is it would have been after the president in a nefarious way.
7:02 pm
where do they get that idea? >> cnn's legal commentator, ken cuccinelli good to have all of you on. president trump giving a wide ranging interview. here's what he had to say and then we'll talk. >> i'm looking forward to it, actually. >> you want to. >> just so you understand, there's been no collusion whatsoever. there's no obstruction whatsoever, and i'm looking forward to it, i do worry, when i look at all of the things that you people don't report about, with what's happening, if you take a look at, you know, the five months worth of missing text texts, that's a lot of missing texts. as i said yesterday, that's prime time. you look at in a and see what's going on, you do look at certain
7:03 pm
texts where they talk about insurance policies or insurance. where they say the kinds of things they're saying, you have to be concerned. i would love to do that, i'd like to do it as soon as possible. >> when will you do it, mr. president. do you have a date set? >> i don't know, no. i guess they're talking about two or three weeks. i would love to do it. >> would you -- >> i have to say, subject to my lawyers and all of that, i'd love to do it many. >> there were factual errors in there. it affected a lot of phones as they were changing over the phones. the president didn't talk about that, someone should probably tell him the truth about that. what does mueller want to question the president about? >> there was a lot that happened in that room, he walked in unannounced, it was a surprise to the reporters as well as white house aids in the room. reporters wanted to talk to him about robert mueller, he said there, he would love to sit down
7:04 pm
and talk to him. he said he would do so underoath. he helped and didn't say that. he said that -- kind of left it open. today he was straightforward and wants to sit down with him face to face. ty cobb released a statement shortly after the president made those comments saying, while mr. trump was speaking hurriedly before traveling to davos, he's looking forward to speaking with mr. mueller. the lawyers look at an in person interview as a last resort, it's not something they necessarily want. also sources tell us that robert mueller's team wants to have an in person interview with president interrupt. the team has made that clear to the president's lawyers, what will happen, how it will take shape is unclear.
7:05 pm
all the terms are being negotiated. they're in the early stages of trying to work things out. >> the president was also asked about whether any meeting with the special council would be under oath. i want you to take a listen to this. >> would you do it under oath, mr. president? >> you mean like hillary did it -- who said that? >> i said it. >> did hillary do it under oath? >> i have no idea. i'm not asking you. >> i think you have an idea. wait, wait, wait, do you have an idea. >> i'll give you an idea, she didn't do it under oath. i would do it under oath. you know she didn't do it under oath. >> again, more factual errors, because he is fixated on this, he said it before. explain what happens when fbi, the fbi interviews -- during fbi interviews and whether or not you have to be under oath.
7:06 pm
>> so typically, the fbi interviews, no one is under oath. you don't need to be under oath. lying to an fbi agent is a crime. whether you're under oath or not. typically there's no court reporter present, no video cameras, no taping. there's fbi agents sitting there, they're taking notes. there's a prosecutor in this case. and then you would also obviously have defense attorneys there, that's how that works, it's a pretty standard practice, so when he's talking about being under oath, he was off the reservation from the perspective of what his attorneys had in mind. i can imagine mr. cobb was sitting back in the white house very concerned about potentially losing his leverage with robert mueller, i don't think he wants the president to be testifying
7:07 pm
in front of the grand jury. he doesn't want it to be under oath. >> another big point the president addressed. he asked the acting fbi director who he voted for, the president answered by saying, he doesn't recall, asking that question. let's listen to it. >> general -- >> mr. president. >> should mccabe go? >> he got more than $500,000 from essentially hillary clinton, and is he investigating hillary clinton? >> so should he go? >> do you remember, did anybody hear many of my speeches where i talked about mccabe. he was the star of my speech. i said, a man who was more or less in charge of -- the wife got $500,000 from terry. now, terry is hillary. and -- i mean -- >> do you regret having him as your acting fbi director then?
7:08 pm
>> you know what, i keep out of it, you'll find that hard to believe, i keep out of it that's the way it fell. he was the star of many of my speeches. he got from five to seven hundred thousand, whatever that number was. got that money for the wife. and in virginia, in virginia, it's very interesting, you don't have to spend the money, i never checked if they spent the money on the campaign. how much did she spend on the campaign. >> did you ask who he voted for? >> do you know. >> so on the one hand the president is saying that he doesn't remember asking mccabe who he voted for, on the other he's saying it wouldn't matter if he did. and implies to reporters that's something he might do. >> it's a muddled defense.
7:09 pm
he drags mckpab into the spotlight. terry mcauliffe gave over $500,000 to mccabe's wife to run as a democrat for the state senate. i think mccabe's mistake in that race he appeared in political literature with his wife, it's his wife, and that's a response a lot of people have, other people's response is, it's the fbi. you've given up your nonpartisan chops with that, and the president is taking advantage of that. >> is he supposed to pretend he's not her husband? >> i mean, is -- >> look, you flow, there's two ways that can go, but when they as a couple made the decision that she was going to get in that race, she decided to get in that race, it was going to have consequences for an fbi agent
7:10 pm
husband. but no one would have imagined the kinds of consequences we're talking about tonight. he's in the center spotlight, and it's a difficult position to be in. there's no shaking that partisan flavor for him. the president is taking advantage of it from a messaging standpoint. >> i don't see how you can pretend you're not married to someone. >> i think it's the opposite. >> i know, but how is he not going to appear, if there's pictures of him. and pictures of them as a couple, what the -- it doesn't make sense. i mean -- >> of course, it makes perfect sense. the way he did it. >> the first lady appears in literature, and in campaign ads with the candidate. i don't understand what difference it makes. if he actually went and asked the fbi, what's the protocol, it seems he did that. what difference does that make, and there's a paper trail of that.
7:11 pm
>> flip it around, let's say. >> i am, it wouldn't matter if it's a democrat or a republican. >> i don't buy that, it's a club to hit the president with, it's also for the president a club he can hit mccabe with. for an fbi agent and in the culture of that organization that's been above and outside of politics forever, this is not above and outside of it. it's an exception. >> so for her to run, are they supposed to get a divorce, and they're not supposed to be pictured together? are they supposed to ask google to remove all of the images of them as a couple off the internet? >> no, no, no. you're going somewhere else. the political literature of his wife's campaign used those pictures, it wasn't that they existed, it's that they used them in the presidential campaign. >> they're married. >> that's fine. i don't think any fbi agent could have imagined what donald
7:12 pm
trump is doing here. it's really outside of the normal bounds of what we've seen in the political process, yes, in prior occasions in this country, whether it was nixon or clinton. there's been some politicization of investigations. but no one has really seen an american president attack the fbi, attack the justice department in the way that president has. i mean, he ostensibly controls the fbi. they're his appointees, and he's gone after them, in a way that i don't think anyone could have anticipated. i'm sure mr. mccabe when he was making those decisions with his wife, i didn't anticipate the president was going to be tweeting insults at him and by
7:13 pm
making him the face of hatred and scorn. >> donating to a political campaign disqualifies anyone. wouldn't be he be disqualified from talking about hillary clinton? he would be disqualified from criticizing her. thank you all, when we come back, robert mueller's team about to question steve bannon about the comey firings. i'm going to ask a former director of national intelligence where he thinks the national investigation stands and where it's going. hey, what are you guys doing here? we've been helping you prepare and invest for retirement since day one. why would we leave now? because i'm retired now. so? we're voya. we stay with you to and through retirement... ...with solutions to help provide income throughout. so, you'll still be here to help me make smart choices? well, with your finances that is. we had nothing to do with that, uh, tie.
7:14 pm
or the suit. or the shirt. voya. helping you to and through retirement. i thought i was managing my moderate to severe crohn's disease. then i realized something was missing... me. my symptoms were keeping me from being there. so, i talked to my doctor and learned humira is for people who still have symptoms of crohn's disease after trying other medications. and the majority of people on humira saw significant symptom relief and many achieved remission in as little as 4 weeks. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. be there for you, and them.
7:15 pm
ask your gastroenterologist about humira. with humira, remission is possible. going somewhere? whoooo. here's some advice. tripadvisor now searches more... ...than 200 booking sites - to find the hotel you want and save you up to 30%. trust this bird's words. tripadvisor.
7:16 pm
7:17 pm
president trump telling reporters he is willing to be interviewed by robert mueller, in fact, he says he's looking forward to it, if his lawyers approve. that is we're learning tonight mueller's team has given trump's lawyers possible topics they want to ask the president. joining me now is james clapper, a former director of national intelligence. thank you for joining us, the president says that he wants to talk to mueller under oath, but says he'll listen to the advice from his lawyers, what do you make of that? he's giving himself some wiggle room here? >> well, this is -- at least to me, stark contrast to what he said not too long ago, where he
7:18 pm
didn't see a need for an interview, because there was no collusion, i wouldn't be surprised if at some future point he says, no, i'm not going to do an interview, we'll have to see, one of the hallmarks of this presidency is not consistency. >> well, it's just interesting when he says he's looking forward to it, because most people aren't even looking forward to jury duty. why would you be looking forward to speaking to a special council that could get you into some trouble especially with perjury or what have you? even if maybe you didn't mean it. >> yeah, that's kind of -- it's kind of an amazing statement. i wouldn't look forward to a circumstance like that, in any event, even if i had a good story to tell. >> the president was asked about the washington post report that he asked then acting fbi director andrew mccabe who he voted for in an oval office meeting. i want you to listen carefully,
7:19 pm
the president's words are important. listen to this. >> did you ask mccabe who he voted for? >> i don't think so. >> you didn't. >> i don't know what the big deal is with that. i would ask you, who did you vote for. i saw that this morning. i don't remember asking him that question. is it possible you did? >> i don't remember asking the question. i think it's an unimportant question. >> remember, he did say, he had the greatest memory of all time. he says he doesn't think so, if he did, he doesn't think it's a big deal. do you believe him, and do you think that he asked mccabe that question? >> well, unfortunately, no i don't believe him, i think this kind of fits a pattern, i think the timing of this exchange with andy, i think came right after
7:20 pm
the firing of jim comey, as i understand it, this was a get to know you kind of engagement, meeting between the two of them. and in my mind it is completely inappropriate to ask a federal employee, a career employee, any employee who did you vote for? that's just completely inappropriate. and the other thing is, just -- this is kind of typical, rather ambiguous tap dance answer that he gave. and so and again, i'm pretty sure that andy remembers and may have recorded just as jim comey did his conversations with the president. >> so i think it's very regrettable. >> we're at this quit cal point in the mueller investigation. pluler is set to question steve bannon on flynn and comey, their
7:21 pm
firings, he wants to question the kprez. he's already interviewed comey, sessions, we found out his team interviewed mike pompeo. what is your assessment of where this investigation stands? >> it's in the final innings, it would appear to me. to me, this is reflective of bob mueller's careful approach to this, moving from the outer circle to the inner circle, ending up ultimately with the president. the interview with the president by the way could be kind of anti-climb ago tick in a way, i think the conditions that will be placed on what can be asked and the length of time he can be interrogated and all this sort of thing, i think it's important
7:22 pm
for form, i'm not sure much will come of it substantively. if his lawyers have any influence over what he says. >> i want to ask you about this memo, the one that was drafted by nunez. nunez won't let his counterpart on the senate side richard burr won't let his staff see it, won't let the fbi or the justice department see it. democrats say the memo is misleading, what's going on here. to me it appears a partisan attempt to attack the fbi. this is really an irregular approach to doing this. if the congress suspects wrongdoing, typically what you do, and be on a bipartisan
7:23 pm
basis, do a referral to the inspector general of the department of justice, the fbi does not have a separate inspector general, so you go to the ig who is senate confirmed, independent and who has professionals on his staff and the resource wherewithal to do a thorough, methodical, credible investigation. the fact that this was not bipartisan and was not referred to the department of justice for validation of accuracy and all that, i -- makes this very suspect. and i think very partisan. >> director clapper, appreciate your time, thank you. >> thanks, don. >> when we come back, a ton of news coming out of the president's impromptu press conference. how much did his staff know he would say tonight. are those offscript moments helping or hurting his agenda. there's a vacation at the end of every week with hilton.
7:24 pm
whatever type of weekender you are, don't let another weekend pass you by. get the lowest price when you book at hilton.com
7:25 pm
7:26 pm
7:27 pm
president trump saying tonight he looks forward to taking -- to talking under oath to special council robert mueller. only if his lawyers approve. i want to bring in now cnn
7:28 pm
senior political commentator, david axelrod. mark mckinnon the former adviser to george w. bush and john mccain, now executive producer of showtime's "the circus." thank you for joining me, we miss the hat, mark. >> got to venture out in the big city eventually. >> your dlouts coming out with regard to this impromptu session the staff didn't know he was going to stop in on kelly's session with reporters? >> i guess my first reaction is, whatever his lawyers are charging is not enough. for all the headaches and sleepless nights he must cause them. they've been disciplined in their message for some time, since kolb got over to the white
7:29 pm
house, we're cooperating, it's been nonconfrontational. you know, the president's off to the races, and sort of charts his own course. i'm sure they were not happy when he walked in there and said i would be happy to do this under oath, subject to advice from my lawyers. i think they would probably prefer if he just kept his mouth shut, which may be more than anyone could hope for. >> president trump was asked tonight how he defines collusion, here he is. >> you don't have to define it for me, okay, i can tell you there's no collusion. i couldn't have cared less about russians having to do with my campaign. the fact is, you people won't say this, you but i'll say it, i was a much better candidate than her. you always say she was a bad
7:30 pm
candidate. you won't say i was a good candidate it i was a great candidate. some day you're going to say that. >> in his mind russians interfering in the election, had something to do with his win. he's mixing the two together he can't hold two separate thoughts at the same time. maybe he was a good candidate. maybe the russians did influence the campaign, the electoral process. what's your reaction to protests he couldn't care less about the russians having anything to do with his campaign. >> it may be true, in the end there may be no collusion, as he says. it's so interesting and revealing, it always comes back to -- about him and the margin of victory. and did he win it successfully, i want to read a paragraph from "fire and fury." some people question the accuracy of some of the passages, the big takeaways are pretty accurate. here's what he said about the
7:31 pm
white house staff in is the peculiar consensus, not that he was guilty of what he was accused of, but he was gulity of so much else. it was possible that the plausible would lead to the credible. there may be no collusion, but there's -- i mean, there's literally three public examples of what could be obstruction of justice. he said it on lester holt that's just the stuff we know about, and then there's the other instances of trump saying, draw a line, don't look anywhere else. you say that to a prosecutor, they're going to look somewhere else. >> collusion is not a legal term, from collusion you can get, this is possible -- not that it's going to head there, but obstruction, money laundering, any number of crimes can come out of that, again, none of that may come out of that, but collusion again not a
7:32 pm
legal term, it's easy to say, there's no collusion, you can never be charged with collusion. >> can i just make a -- somewhat related point to this, which is, this has been his thing from the beginning, which is somehow to acknowledge that the russians did what everybody else acknowledges they did, which was interfere with our election, was denigrating his victory, and as such, he could not acknowledge it. and he has not been able to acknowledge it, and that get notice way of getting to the bottom of what the russians actually did, which becomes a real national security issue and problem for the country and the congress itself has been weigh layed by people so eager to defend the president, they're not trying to get to the bottom of what the russians actually did, and it is dangerous. >> also, david, i think what people don't realize here, it's an old but very effective marketing strategy, by him saying there's no collusion. he says it, we repeat the sound bite, other people say it, and then you get people to believe
7:33 pm
if you say something a number of times. people will believe it's true. so far, collusion has or has not been proven many if he keeps saying it over and over, there's a strategy behind this, i believe. >> there's no doubt about it, and i think he wants to focus on collusion. it may be the more serious concern he has is about the things he did to try to divert this investigation. he said there was no obstruction either. there are questions that he will have to answer. why did he ask jim comey to go easy on flynn. what was his motivation behind that, and why did he fire comey after comey refused to do so, there are a lot of questions that he's going to have to answer. i will say this, i give him credit, he won a miraculous victory. i agree with him, and i was critical of secretary clinton as a candidate, when she ran.
7:34 pm
and some aspects of her campaign, i will say this, there was at least one other campaign that beat the clinton machine. >> it was obama. >> it wasn't unprecedented. >> you took the words right out of my mouth. i was going to say, wait a minute, didn't obama beat the clinton machine before he did? >> yes, i remember that clearly. >> well played, sir. >> we've been talking about general kelly, i want you to listen to what the president said about him tonight. >> how is he doing, okay? >> i think he's doing great. >> yeah. >> he's doing great. fake news yesterday or two days ago. i rarely put out a tweet praising somebody, only when they get a false story. >> tension between the president's chief of staff rising over the past few weeks, ivanka trump is looking for a replacement here, he praised kelly, then held a 15 minute
7:35 pm
q & a with reporters, could this have been the president's way of showing kelly he is in charge? it's certainly a trump brushback. kelly's days are numbered, unfortunately, i think he's doing a great job under the circumstances. i always enjoy our conversations. he's not even wearing a necktie. he's too cool for school. >> thank you. >> when we come back, the president also telling daca recipients they have nothing to worry about tonight. he also says he's considering giving dreamers a path to citizenship. what happened to his hardline stance and how will his party react?
7:36 pm
(gasp) (singsong) budget meeting! sweet. if you compare last quarter to this quarter... various: mmm. it's no wonder everything seems a little better with the creamy taste of philly, made with fresh milk and real cream.
7:37 pm
with the creamy taste of philly, if yor crohn's symptoms are holding you back, and your current treatment hasn't worked well enough, it may be time for a change. ask your doctor about entyvio, the only biologic developed and approved just for uc and crohn's. entyvio works at the site of inflammation in the gi tract and is clinically proven to help many patients achieve both symptom relief and remission. infusion and serious allergic reactions can happen during or after treatment. entyvio may increase risk of infection, which can be serious. pml, a rare, serious, potentially fatal brain infection caused by a virus may be possible.
7:38 pm
this condition has not been reported with entyvio. tell your doctor if you have an infection, experience frequent infections or have flu-like symptoms or sores. liver problems can occur with entyvio. if your uc or crohn's treatment isn't working for you, ask your gastroenterologist about entyvio. entyvio. relief and remission within reach.
7:39 pm
president trump had a lot to say to reporters tonight including expressing confidence that a bipartisan agreement on
7:40 pm
immigration will happen. >> do you think you're going to get a deal on immigration, mr. president? >> i think so. >> what do you think it's going to look like? >> great border security. i just wrote something out, you may talk about it, otherwise we'll talk about it tomorrow. we want great border security, we want to do a great job for daca. i think it's a bigger deal for republicans than democrats. >> are you going to -- >> we're going to morph into it. >> what do you mean? >> someone's worked over the years, if they do a great job, i think it's a fleiss thing to have the incentive, after a period of years, being able to become a citizen. >> so the president going on to say he might be willing to extend the daca deadline if there was no agreement.
7:41 pm
i want to talk about this with david jolly and jason miller and angela rye. good evening one and all, thank you so much. >> angela, let's starts with you president trump gave an upbeat answer on immigration reform and dreamers. >> i can't take the president's word worth a grain of salt. this is someone who regularly says one thing and then another. i thought about the man who was recently deported, he had a wife and kids, he didn't do anything. i don't believe someone who built his campaign on calling mexicans drug dealers and rapists, i don't believe a man who has spent time tweeting about a wall, and the importance of the wall, no wall, no deal opinion i don't believe him today, because he doesn't have the compassion to make this type
7:42 pm
of policy decision. >> representative jolly, your former republican colleagues in the house are taking a hardline on this, do you think they're going to see this the same way the president does in. >> no, absolutely not, listen, republicans haven't been able to solve immigration reform in 30 years, the irony here is, whatever passes the senate, there's likely no possible way it would pass the house of representatives, what a bipartisan package would look like in the house simply couldn't pass -- in the senate, is not going to pass the house. unless paul ryan isn't going to run for re-election. donald trump doesn't know what he's talking about on these issues. durbin and graham brought it to him, and the hardliners got to trump and said no, sir, you can't sign this. i really think trump or mcconnell will pull the rug out from under chuck schumer on this one. >> you do? >> yeah.
7:43 pm
>> why? >> it's a false promise. you might get a vote on daca. whatever can pass the senate cannot pass the house, and the president won't sign it, this is going to set up like charlie brown and lucy. donald trump, mitch mcconnell, they're holding it, they're going to pull it out as soon as chuck schumer hits it. if this was easier to solve, more republicans would run on the issue. the moment you say daca, they scream amnesty. the right wing media will lose their minds over this. donald trump folds under the heat. >> you set up my question perfectly. i want you to check out this question. this is bright bark. amnesty suggests citizenship for illegal aliens. jason? >> as much as i respect the good
7:44 pm
congressman, i think he might be living in an alternative universe here, president trump is running circles -- >> didn't breitbart just prove his point, though? >> right. >> he's running circles around the democrats right now, we had chuck schumer who face planted on his failed shutdown, we know the democrats aren't going to do that, while the democrats have completely imploded on this, the -- >> you're absolutely right about that, right on, they completely caved, i don't know why they shut the government down. what we're talking about -- >> hold on, no, no, answer the question, then you can spin. we're talking about the red -- the base as he said, the hardcore base and the right wing media. >> let me get to that. what the president is doing now, is getting out there and setting markers, both on the border security, ending chain migration, getting rid of the visa lottery, so we don't have this repeat over and over again, he's defining the terms in which
7:45 pm
we're going to go and secure our border and make sure we don't have this problem pop back up again. that was the big problem with reagan when he did this in 1986, they didn't go and have the appropriate enforcement mechanisms in place as part of a deal, it came right back, what the president is doing, is getting out and setting markers, here is how much schumer is stuck between a rock and a hard place, now that the president has put down these markers, he may be open to coming up with some kind of deal. schumer's base is saying, wait a minute, the president is willing to do this, you can't shut down the government, you have to give him the wall, let's end chain migration, let's end the visa lottery, the president is running circles around these democrats and they don't know what he's doing. >> he doesn't know what he's doing. >> would you answer the question. >> conservatives know this is a problem we have to fix, if we don't do it our way it's going to end up, the democrats are going to be the ones running it,
7:46 pm
hold that thought, we'll talk more about immigration, and you guys will get to respond right after this. and 640 muscles in the human body, no two of us are alike. life made more effortless through adaptability. the perfect position seat in the lincoln continental. ( ♪ ) directv has been rated number one in customer satisfaction in the lincoln continental. over cable for 17 years running. but some people still like cable. just like some people like pre-shaken sodas. having their seat kicked on an airplane. being rammed by a shopping cart. sitting in gum. and walking into a glass door. but for everyone else, there's directv. for #1 rated customer satisfaction over cable, switch to directv and get a $200 reward card. call 1.800.directv
7:47 pm
a place with flexible fmeal plans...e ...and 24-hour room service a place where seniors get the care they need in the comfort of home. home instead senior care.
7:48 pm
you myour joints...thing for your heart... or your digestion... so why wouldn't you take something for the most important part of you... your brain. with an ingredient originally found in jellyfish, prevagen is now the number one selling brain health supplement in drug stores nationwide. prevagen. the name to remember. gathered here are the world's finest insurance experts. rodney -- mastermind of discounts like safe driver, paperless. the list goes on. how about a discount for long lists? gold. mara, you save our customers hundreds for switching almost effortlessly. it's a gift.
7:49 pm
and jamie. -present. -together we are unstoppable. so, what are we gonna do? ♪ insurance. that's kind of what we do here. ♪ looking for a hotel that fits... whoooo. ...your budget? tripadvisor now searches over... ...200 sites to find you the... ...hotel you want at the lowest price. grazi, gino! find a price that fits. tripadvisor. david joly jason miller, angela rye back with me now. i want you to respond, angela. i think you took umbrage to
7:50 pm
something jason said. this is what the president said about immigration tonight. >> tell them not to be concerned, okay. >> they have not to be concerned about? >> tell them not to worry. >> can i clarify. >> we will solve the problem. it's up to the democrats. but they should not be concerned. >> can we just clarify one thing. >> we're putting in a fund. $25 billion in a fund. >> all up front? >> we have $5 $25 billion for a wall. 5 billion. aft daca is done. >> you want chain miergs and lottery. >> we're putting in the initial, putting chain and negotiated chain. we're putting a replacement for lottery or an end to lottery. it could be a replacement. we bring people in from various countries coming in based on merit and other reasons and we are going to billed a wall. those primary things. >> okay. so he said we're putting in fawned we're going to do. but is the money coming from
7:51 pm
mexico for the fund? where is that. >> come on, don. >> i'm serious. i don't know where the money is coming from. >> he doesn't know either because it's coming from us. >> he said he wants $25 billion more the border wall. i don't know. can you support that as a democrat? and see the permanent solution for d.r.e.a.m.ers. >> you know good and well -- i'm not support ago wall. i never supported a wall from the moment he said it. i don't understand why nobody on his transition team, nobody on his campaign, nobody who he is affiliated, nobody told him there was a process in place at one called sbi net, the secure border nishltive. partially a physical wall and electronic wall. i worked on the homeland security committee. there was hearing after hearing why this wall didn't work. cost the government millions of dollars. barack obama pulled the plug on this project. why would you go back and do the same thing?
7:52 pm
it doesn't work. the reality of what needs to happen in this country is there needs to be a different type of wall built. that wall needs to be built to find us and release us from bigotry and ignorance. we can't create false bordering and systems to keep people out of in country when they're trying to come here to make a better life for themselves. that's the bottom line. i'm not saying we don't need immigration policy. what i am saying to you. >> we do need border security though. >> we can have border security. but it doesn't have to be in a way that is built upon hatred, that is built upon trying to make it harder for people trying to get. >> we'll just let everyone in. >> you know what jason that's the same thing the indigenous people for your folks they let you all in why you trying to be funny. >> the same liberal mindset that got us in the problem where we are today. look, president trump is getting the money for the wall. you heard him say that. he is ending chain miergs, shut down the visa lottery.
7:53 pm
we're going to come up with things to fix the problem that we have here. and here is the problem where angela and my other friends on the left, the pickle they're in they are getting pressure from the folks legitimately out there working hard who want to make sure the d.r.e.a.m.ers have a pathway to stay in the the united states because the president said he is willing to come up with some kind of deal. look, president trump is going to absolutely get the border security and he is coming up with a long-term solution. i said this before. bush couldn't get it done. obama couldn't get it done. president trump is going to get it done. i'm going to be prove. right once again. >> what is different about this david than what chuck schumer offered last week. >> nothing except donald trump wants to make it look like like he went. he has to be the winner in this. jason is more optimistic than "i" on this. we've been trying to pass as republicans operational control of the border for years. perhaps donald trump can get it done. but this speaks to the big are problem don of the body politic
7:54 pm
we see it on every reason. why we are seeing people angry. republicans and democrats looking for answers in the middle independence. each party speaks to one constituency. the democrats right now the sole focus is daca. and republicans sole focus is border securely. health care democrats looked at those needing additional coverage. and republicans were only looking at those failed unobamacare. the reason so many people are angry is no one party to looking to solve all the problems on behalf of a broader constituency that's true on this issue. the thing that president trump is using a dak an recipients to use a border wall is frankly immoral to put their lives in leverage for a political agenda. i have give gutierrez a lot of credit to come along and say let's billed the wall and do border security if that means we get a comprehensive solution. >> but congressman you are criticizing the president for what he is doing what you want
7:55 pm
to see done which is actually do something about border security and come up with a smart comprehensive solution for daca. he is doing that. >> no but the problem is the narrative -- the nar i have that's been used. >> yes he is. >> angela. angela and then the congressman. angela first and then the congressman. go ahead. >> the issue i think we need to address here, don, is the fact that policy can't be divorced from people. you cannot talk about people, human beings the way in which the republican party led by donald trump have talked about undocumented people. illegal aliens, the terminology, again, drug dealers, rapists, all of that has to go. . if you want to talk about policy, congressman joly you are right we need to figure out the middle ground. but what we can't do to demonize human beings trying to come to america or remain in america to billed a better life. >> i have 20 seconds congressman jolly. >> i want to agree on with jason
7:56 pm
on something. donald trump is the first republican to talk about daca. when they call it am nesty he are followed on it. but he should get credit for talking about it. >> president trump answering questions in a an impromptu session with reporters what he says about speak to robert mueller and were he testifies unoath. new information about the negotiations with trump and trump lawyers to get the sit-down interview. your car, you're sending about half a gallon of gasoline up in the air. that amounts to about 10 pounds of carbon dioxide every week. (malo hutson) growth is good, but when it starts impacting our quality of air and quality of life, that's a problem. so forward-thinking cities like sacramento are investing in streets that are smarter and greener. the solution was right under our feet. asphalt. or to be more precise, intelligent asphalt.
7:57 pm
by embedding sensors into the pavement, as well as installing cameras on traffic lights, we will be able to analyze the flow of traffic. then that data runs across our network, and we use it to optimize the timing of lights, so that travel times are shorter. who knew asphalt could help save the environment? ♪ ronoh really?g's going on at schwab. thank you clients?
7:58 pm
well jd power did just rank them highest in investor satisfaction with full service brokerage firms... again. and online equity trades are only $4.95... i mean you can't have low cost and be full service. it's impossible. it's like having your cake and eating it too. ask your broker if they offer award-winning full service and low costs. how am i going to explain this? if you don't like their answer, ask again at schwab. schwab, a modern approach to wealth management.
7:59 pm
8:00 pm
s in cnn tonight. i'm don lemon. a little past -- right at 11:00 on the east coast. live with breaking news. president trump son air force one on his way to davos. before he left he had a lot to say to reporters which apparently came as a surprise to white house aides who say they didn't know the president was dropping in on john kelly's session with the reporters tonight. trump's legal team may have been surprised when the president said he was looking forward to an interview with special counsel robert mueller. an interview which he said would be under oath. ty cob reacting to

85 Views

info Stream Only

Uploaded by TV Archive on