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at the top of the priority list, we understand, immigration. the president plans to pitch his controversial plan. let's go straight to cnn's boris sanchez straight from the white house. boris, what more can we expect from the president? >> a white house official telling cnn this will be an optimistic speech. the main theme will be building a safer, stronger, prouder america. the president is expected to appeal to people that naturally aren't in his base, and he's going to do that by touting some of his successes, specifically in the booming economy. he's going to talk about the growing stock market, dwindling unemployment numbers, and then transition to talking about the future. the president is expected to ask congress for about a trillion dollars for his infrastructure plan. then the most critical part of his speech coming at a crucial time in the debate over immigration reform, the president is going to try to sell his vision of immigration
reform in exchange for allowing a pathway to citizenship to some 2 million undocumented immigrants. the president is going to ask for $25 billion in spending to build his long-promised border wall. the white house has been essentially setting the stage for the debate over his plan. it doesn't have a whole lot of support among republicans, but it has been something that democrats said is a non-starter in part because of adjustments the white house is trying to make to illegal immigration. mark short, the director of legislative affairs at the white house, was on talk shows today saying the president has concede the when it comes to allowing d.r.e.a.m.ers, those 2 million or so -- rather, 800,000 or so young adults that were brought to the united states illegally as children to stay in the united states. he wants to see democrats come up with concessions of their own. here's mark short on one of the sunday morning talk shows today. >> i think that the president made enormous appeal and showed enormous leadership in putting
forward a plan to resolve the daca situation, an issue that has plagued our country tore decades. yet the outcry from democrats when he went further than many people thought he would in providing not just permanent residence but also a pathway to citizenship for 1.8 million people to live in this country, and yet so far democrats have continued to cry they don't want to solve the problem. >> now, fred, this is all what's on paper on the script. as we've heard from president trump before, he tends to go off the cuff, and that could potentially mean that he might talk about all kinds of distractions that have been surrounding the white house and his administration, whether the russia investigation or the resignation of steve wynn as the financial chairman of the rnc. it's unclear, but white house officials tell us that the president will speak from the heart. we'll see what that means on tuesday, fred. >> all right, boris, sanchez. thanks so much. senators on both sides of
the alsaid today isle said toda optimistic they can reach an agreement on immigration. >> we need to repair the wall, we need to do whatever we can to secure the bordersborders. we had $42 million to spend on america with that order in 2017 but also there was a pathway for 2 million people. you can't have big on one end of it and also medium and small on the other end. i think that's what we're trying to figure out. i'll work with susan collins, our commonsense coalition, i think, is going to be the grounding, if you will, of what will pass or what can move through the senate. we're going to meet monday night and start over again trying to find that commonality that we've been able to do, and there is no way anyone should be considering any more of a shutdown, even talking the nonsense of a shutdown. let's get down to business and fix it. and we can do it.
>> we're going to be meeting this week, our commonsense coalition, to take a look at the four pillars the white house has put out there. i think all of us realize it's going to take a compromise on this issue for us to get something done and to protect the d.r.e.a.m.er population, which is certainly a goal of mine. but i think the president is also right about border security. we do need to beef up our border security. >> joining me to discuss this now, allison stewart, public commentator and strategist, and former legislative policy director for former chuck schumer. good to see you both. >> hi, fred. >> good to see you. >> allison, you first. does it look like there could be a deal or another delay? >> i'd like to think we're on our way to a deal. i think both sides learned a lot with the shutdown, that you can't just wad up your fists and not give. and i think senator mansion was
right. both sides need to concede in this very important debate. i think the white house has been very clear at what they need on this if we're going to provide provisions for d.r.e.a.m.ers. that is something they are for, but we have to make sure they secure the border, we have to do away with chain migration and first the visa lottery program. they are very clear on that, and i think once the democrats realize that, we're on our road to seeing some type of deal with regard to immigration. >> so, jim, the hangups are all in the compromise, right? one side says we're not going to compromise on the wall, and the other side might say we're not going to compromise on these d.r.e.a.m.ers and a path to citizenship. so do you have hope that there will be common ground found before that february 8th deadline? or the march deadline? >> i have hope. i think it's more the march deadline. i've had hope before and it's been dashed. this is my experience in these types of negotiations.
i think joe mansion got it right. you can go small, you can go medium, or you can go large, but it has to be reciprocated on the other side. a daca agreement that's 1.8 million people that there is a path to citizenship for them, that's somewhere in the medium to small category. so on the side where democrats are going to give on the wall and those sorts of things, chain migration, family visas, it's got to be commensurate there. you're not going to be able to get everything the president wants on a security wish list and his reform wish list dealing with 1.8 million out of 11 million of the problem. so they need to be sort of on like common denominators to get a deal. >> the president trying to fire mueller last june.
senator lindsey graham is actually on board with some legislation to protect mueller. listen. >> i will do whatever it takes to make sure mr. mueller can do his job. we're a rule of law nation before president trump, we're going to be a rule of law nation after president trump. i haven't yet seen any evidence of collusion between president trump and the russians, but the investigation needs to go forward without political interference. we're not going to stop looking at the president because he claims the "new york times" is fake news, and we're not going to convict him based on a news article. as a matter of fact, i think mr. mueller is the perfect guy to get to the bottom of all this, and he will. i think my job, among others, is to give him the space to do it and i intend to do that. i've got legislation protecting mr. mueller, and i'll be glad
to pass it tomorrow. >> and allison, senator graham also said he thought bob mcgahn did the right thing and trump should be listening to him in terms of not carrying through on the firing. but then it brings us to
congress and an agreement on whether they will pass some sort of bill to protect mueller. do you see it happening, alice? >> fred, it's sad we have to get to this point but we may have to get to that point. i think mueller should be protected. i don't think there should be any outside influences to try and seek his removal. look, a few things. i think the administration, specifically the president, is wrong to call this russia investigation a hoax. i think it's wrong to call it a witch hunt. i think it's wrong for him to call this very well-sourced story about asking to fire mueller as fake news. but at the same time, we have to keep in mind it didn't happen. he sought advice from his legal counsel. his attorneys told him that's a bad idea, don't do it, and he didn't do it. i think we need to keep in mind while this is a very important topic, it didn't happen.
so i think we need to just turn the page and move on to the next phase of this and let mueller do his job, not jump to conclusions and let's wait and see what mueller has to say at the end of
this. >> at the same time, jim, perhaps there was some thinking that, yeah, mueller wouldn't need any added protection because the president didn't carry through with it. he said he wants to cooperate. he's been asked directly many times, are you going to fire mueller and he says no. but then just a few days ago in davos he called it fake news, and that brings people back to this worry that maybe in the back of his mind he will find a way in which to get rid of mueller. >> right, so his word is not really that reliable on this or on a lot of things. i think two things have to happen here. one is lindsey graham is absolutely right, there should be legislation to protect mueller. will it pass or not? look, it's hard to pass the naming of a post office in this congress, so something else needs to happen, too. and this can be done privately and maybe it's already happened. mitch mcconnell and paul ryan need to communicate to the president and to the chief of
staff over there that the firing of mueller would start impeachment offense movement in congress. >> what makes you feel like they haven't already? >> i don't know whether they have or have not. there's been no indication that they've had that conversation. but that conversation needs to occur because the firing of mueller would be a constitutional crisis for this country. the president needs to know that he does not have the support of republican leadership if he does that, because frankly republican leadership has been playing footsie. sometimes they're enablers of the president and sometimes they're warning him, this needs to be a clear red line. it needs to happen at least privately. it would be best if it happened publicly. >> speaking of davos and the president, he also sat down with former cnn colleague piers morg morgan, and according to a tweet from morgan saying this, president trump has declared he is not a feminist.
he tells me no, i wouldn't say i'm a feminist. i mean, i think that would be maybe going too far. i'm for women, i'm for men, i'm for everyone. alice, what do you make of that? >> well, i completely can hear the president saying exactly that. there are a lot of people that may beg to differ on that. i think you can say this about the president. he is an equal opportunity offender. when he wants to criticize someone, he doesn't care if it's a man, woman, what. when something is on his mind, he will say it. i think people that try to paint him in a corner as being anti-this or anti-that, they need to keep in mind he is a man who means what he says and says what he means when he feels a certain way about someone and he doesn't hold back. i think trying to paint him in a corner on this issue, i think, is a mistake. >> all right. jim, do you want to chime in really quick? >> i am stunned that donald trump doesn't think that he is a
feminist. his career -- he's a serial adulterer. possibly he's sleeping with porn stars and paying them off. so at least that was a moment of truth and honesty and clarity from the president. i believe him on that. >> ouch. all right. jim kessler, alice stewart, we'll leave it right there. thanks so much. >> thank you. so as the president looks ahead to the state of the union in just two days now, his attention is also focused on rap per jay-z and comments he made during van jones' new show which premiered last night on cnn. trump tweeting this morning, quote, somebody please inform jay-z because of my policies, black unemployment has just been reported to be the lowest rate ever recorded. so what set the president off? take a listen and a look. >> he is somebody who is now saying, look, i'm growing -- i'm
dropping black unemployment. black people are doing well under my administration. does he have a point that maybe the democrats have been giving us good lip service but no jobs? maybe he's going to say terrible things but put money in our pocket. does that make him a good leader? >> no, because it's not about money at the end of the day. money doesn't equate to happiness, it doesn't. that's missing the whole point. you treat people like human beings and then, you know, that's the main point. you can't treat someone like -- it goes back to the whole thing. you're going to treat me really bad and pay me well. it's not going to lead to happiness, it's going to lead to, you know, again, everybody is going to be sick. >> joining me right now, the man of the hour, cnn political commentator and host of the van jones show, "van jones." congratulations on the show, congratulations on the
headlines, and now the highly anticipated what's next on your show. do you feel like, as a result of the president's tweet, he misses the point of what was central to the conversation? >> yeah. i thought it was -- obviously it's good to get attention for the show, but really, he totally missed the point. i mean, jay-z last night was stunning. he was confessional -- usually hip-hop you think bragadocious and conservatory. he was opposite of that. he talked of his struggles with his marriage, he talked about his children. he really set the kind of example i wish the president would set. the president is now the guy who is bragadocious, never accuses of anything. and part of what i think set donald trump off. he talked about the racism in the country. and he talked about how, in a
very interesting way, he talked about the fact that we keep pushing it under the rug when somebody says something racist, we just smack him down and push it down in life. it's making it worse. he said we've now pushed it under the rug so much that it's come back as a superbug of racism, donald trump. so he called donald trump a superbug of racism, and he pointed out just having a lgt bit more money in the economy doesn't count if you're treating people badly. it was a profound interview. it was thoughtful, it was substantive, and for the president who maybe didn't even watch it, for him to fire off something i think was disrespectful as an icon of this community. >> you have to feel that the president did not see the show in its entirety, did not see the message in its entirety. perhaps he got a good show and
misses the whole point about numbers versus quality in which you make reference to people, in which you treat people -- >> respect. dignity. >> -- and that was the underlying message, that was the nu nucleus about the message jay-z was making. >> and he could actually learn from jay-z. jay-z is a very rich person, a successful person, a businessperson. >> a fellow new yorker. >> -- a fellow new yorker, but he's had one marriage, and he fought for that marriage. he was just unbelievable last night talking about, this is my soulmate. i'm fighting for this marriage. donald trump has had three marriages. i never heard donald trump refer to the first lady as his soulmate, and if he did, i'm not sure what people would say about that. also donald trump likes to fit fights with people, like black rappers, like football players, like fbi agents, like journalists. but he's yet to pick a fight with these russians who messed
up our election. he's yet to pick a fight with these white supremacist organizations that are killing people in america. so why do you continue to pick on certain types of people if you want to be an american and leave these guys alone. i would say if i was a father, and i am, i would rather have my kit fall and he based his life on someone like donald trump and makes mistakes over and over again and never improves. >> that's interesting, because the president of the united states is to be a leader of morality in this nation. usually, customarily, people in this nation would want their children to watch a president of the united states emulate, aspire to be, and it's interesting that the message, whether it be in the content of your show and i remember you
making the parallel about being a dad, and you're and i don't want my kids to hear what the president may say spontaneously. that is striking. >> part of the reason that we created the van jones show, and it's going to be every other weekend, is that we wanted to try to have a deeper conversation, a richer conversation, a more reflective conversation. i wanted to start with jay-z, because his album "444" which tonight is being nominated for eight grammys. he already has 22 grammys, his wife at 18 grammys. so tonight he's getting ready to go possibly pick up eight grammys. but the "444" album is totally different than normal hip-hop in that he is confessing to mistakes he's made. he's talking about investing in collector art and real estate as
a way to have intergenerational wealth for black families. he's not talking about shooting people, stuff like that, he's doing something really extraordinary, akbeing a pathbreaker, then he got jumped on by the president of the united states who didn't even do him the courtesy of listening to the whole interview, apparently. we talk about each other but we don't listen to each other. last night on the show we also went to charlottesville, virginia and we had republicans and democrats, black and white together, driving past the confederate monuments, driving past where heather heir was murdered. sean carter is doing a better job getting us to a confessional, honest place than the president of the united states. >> your show right now, slated for twice a month. perhaps you haven't lined up all your guests for the next, but you never know, maybe this was
an extension. >> love to have them on, honestly. >> all right, van jones. good to see you. appreciate it. >> thank you. up next, senator marco rubio fires his chief of staff over improper conduct with a subordinate. details on the allegations and the timing behind the allegations. >> i know you don't like this current guy. i voted for jill stein all the way. but don't look back at my presidency and think, this is how we do it. how do you win at business? stay at la quinta. where we're changing with stylish make-overs.
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all right, welcome back. senator marco rubio taking quick action to fire his chief of staff over what he called improper conduct with a subordinate. the employee wasn't mentioned by name, but rubio's chief of staff has been identified as clint reed. in a statement rubio said he became aware of the allegations for the first time on friday. by saturday afternoon, rubio had fired the chief of staff, saying he had sufficient evidence that the staffer violated office policies regarding proper relations between a supervisor and their subordinates. joining me right now to discuss this, alice stewart is back, cnn political commentator and former communications director for senator ted cruz, and jim kessler also back, a former legislative policy director for senator chuck schumer. alice, you first. rubio didn't waste any time dealing with this after being told about it on friday and then
now we already see a chief of staff removed, so what kind of message is this sending to his perhaps congressional colleagues? >> i think it sends the right message that we have to draw the line. and when you hear of something like this, you have to take swift and decisive action. let me say this, fred. i know clint reed. i've known him for more than a dozen years from living and working in arkansas. we worked on a senate campaign together. to me he was always respectful. but look, he is driven, he is hard-working, and some view him as extremely aggressive. in this case we have a subordinate in rubio's office that found him to be engaging in improper conduct. and i think that has to be the final straw. more than anything, we should commend senator rubio for listening to this woman, hearing her out, investigating this matter and taking action. i think this should serve as the poster child case for how to deal with these type of allegations and following through, and the me too movement
clearly is making an impact on the hill. >> so, jim, you know this termination that comes during this growing me too movement, but in rubio's statement, he didn't mention his chief of staff by name. why do you suppose that is? >> i don't know, because you can just go on line and say, chief of staff marco rubio and there's the name. i don't understand why people do that, but i think marco rubio did the right thing. the situation on the hill, this me too moment on capitol hill, i think we're in the third inning of a nine-inning game. there will be a lot more that comes out. this has always been a place in which the rules have sort of been set by their own offices. it used to be known the hill is the last plantation, so i think we're going to be hearing more things about it. it's unfortunate but it needs to come out, it needs to change, and i think it will. >> so alice, this situation
comes also just a few days after it's been publicized that during hillary clinton's 2008 run for the white house that she chose not to fire a senior adviser, vern strider, over accusations of sexual harassment. is this a republican seizing on an opportunity to show, this is how we do it? >> look, i think people on both sides of the aisle see this for what it is. hillary clinton never did have a voice in the me too movement and never will. here we have these allegations back ten years ago, and virtually the man who perpetrated these actions got a slap on the wrist, and the victim of this got reassigned to another job. that's not how you handle these kinds of things. you get rid of the man and you keep the woman doing what she probably loved doing. i think for hillary clinton to claim that she carries the
manhatt mantel for women and women's rights. clearly that doesn't apply to the litany of women who have made allegations against her husband whether they're talking about paula jones, gennifer flowers, and she has degraded these women who made these claims. i think she's proven in this case that she is an enabler to sexual harrassment as opposed to someone who really takes a stand. >> at the same time, jim, is it an issue of it should not be made of a partisan issue that it a different time, different place, completely different circumstances? >> let's separate a couple things here. this is an equal opportunity problem in this country. this is not a democratic problem or republican problem. it's throughout this cancer of sexual harrassment in politics,
it's throughout both parties. that's number one. number two, hillary clinton didn't handle this right. three wrongs don't make a right. she didn't handle it correctly in 2008, 2016, and her statement last week on this where she kind of, you know, sort of rah-rahed in self-con grgratulatory, i thought it was tone deaf here. we need to move into the 21st century on this. i do not think hillary clinton is an enabler. she's had to deal with misbehaving men all her life. she doesn't handle every situation well. she isn't the one rubbing people on the shoulders and kissing people on the forehead, but she didn't handle this well. >> we'll leave that there. to both of you i appreciate it. >> thank you. reminder, stay with cnn for the president's first state of the union on tuesday. our live coverage kicks off at
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two years for spying on iran for the united states. he's been in poor health for a very long time. in september he underwent emergency surgery in iran to put a pacemaker in. he has very bad health problems, and in recent weeks, he's been complaining of poor health, bad blood pressure, irregular heartbeat. he was rushed to the hospital last week. he's been discharged today and now, after intervention between the united states and other third-party countries, the united nations, the iranian government has given him a four-day reprieve. he is resting home comfortably with his family before he is to return back to prison in four days. obviously the state department, the white house, trying to make this a permanent situation. state department spokesperson heather now calling on the iranian government to release him and his son who is also in prison. >> what more can you tell us about his son? >> well, somac umazi was actually the first one who was
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government want another otto warmbier case on their hands. >> he's allowed to go home to his wife but we'll see how the next four days go and what happens half that. thank you so much. up next, why an alleged report of an affair with a porn star doesn't seem to trouble trump's female supporters. we actually sit down with a group of them, next. with a snap, with zicam. do i use ...one that'sthat wgood for my teeth? .. now i don't have to choose! from crest 3d white comes new whitening therapy. it's our best whitening technology. plus, it has a fortifying formula to protect your enamel. crest. healthy, beautiful smiles for life.
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tuesday. the allegations of an affair which have engulfed the white house at a time when the president tries to push his agenda forward have garnered a mixed reaction across washington. but for his base, many are not so troubled. randy kaye sat down with some conservative women to find out why they are standing by him. >> just speak the truth -- >> reporter: a year into his presidency and these dallas women are still thanking god for donald trump. >> i know that god is the one who ordained him to be in this position. >> reporter: linda churchwell and these other ladies all voted trump. they like his conservative beliefs. >> he has appointed a conservative administration. he does stand up for the freedom of life and the freedom of churches.
and pastors represent is grace. >> reporter: so a mulligan is grace. >> i've never really heard that term before. randi, we all have gotten a mulligan because of christ jesus. so that's the bottom line. >> reporter: and these women also agree with reverend franklin graham, who says donald trump is a changed man. >> this man, who is a successful businessman, did not have those people praying for him daily as he does now. he has transformed even in the year we've seen him from a brash new york person to the president that we are proud of today. >> i think we're all different people today than we were in 2006. he's a father, he's a grandfather. when you have children, the way you look at the world changes. >> reporter: but when you look at evangelical christianity, it's about family, it's about being faithful, yet this doesn't seem to bother any of you. >> you know what bothers me are these stories that detract from all the good things he's doing for the american people. instead of hearing that, we're hearing all news from someone that's not really that credible,
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welcome back. it's known as music's biggest night. but tonight's 60th annual grammy awards may be about more than just the music. some of the grammy artists will wear white roses to show their support for the me too and time's up campaigns. sexual misconduct and gender inequality. cnn entertainment reporter join ing me now. gorgeous emerald green. good to see you. so who can we expect to be wearing the white roses tonight? >> hi, fred. as you see, i'm here on the red carpet. it's back after 15 years and we're seeing a lot of people wearing white roses tonight. it's all in support of the me too movement. this times up initiative is is a big night for female performers. we have kesha, lady georgaga, m cyrus with elton john and e he told me that she's fiery and
everybody should be excited for this performance. but it's about female empowerment. people i have spoken to said they are in support of the movement and that it's about time. >> and so is there a way to kind of look into the crystal ball and tell what are likely to be the big moments. is it particular performances or those who are going to be speaking or what? >> exactly, there's so much to look forward to tonight. but obviously, james corden is back as host again. you can imagine that he's most likely going to get political in his monologue. probably a little car pool karaoke. this is the first year since 1999, if you can believe it, that there are no white male nominees in the best album category. jay-z leading the way with eight
nominations. he might win a few more. a big night for him tonight. kendrick lamar has seven nominations. . this is a huge night for the song i can't get out of my head. it could make grammy history as the first spanningish laenguage song to win record of the year. a lot is happening in the way of diversity because people have criticized them for not being in touch with what people want and are listening to. >> so many eyes will be on it this evening. clo wee, thank you so much. will ferrell returned to "saturday night live" last night resurprising his role as george w. he had a message for everyone wishing he was still in office. >> according to a new pole, my approval rating is at an all-time high.
don trump came in and i'm looking sweet in comparison. at this rate, i might even end up on mount rushmore next to washington, lincoln and i want to say kensington. i don't know. but the point is i'm suddenly popular af. and a lot of people are saying, man, i wish george w. bush was still our president right about now. so i just wanted to address my fellow americans tonight and remind you guys that i was really bad. >> will ferrell is so good. we have so much more straight ahead in the newsroom. stay with us. how can you make your hair even stronger? use pantene shampoo together with 3 minute miracle daily conditioner.
hello, again. i'm freddie mac. in two days, president trump will deliver his first state of the union address in what could be a pivotal moment of his presidency. let's get to boris fran chez at the white house. what are the expectations of this speech? >> white house official telling cnn to expect an optimistic speech coming from president trump. the theme of the state of the union address on tuesday will be building a safer, stronger and prouder america. we're told the president is going to attempt to reach people outside of his own base a
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