all right, good morning, everyone. john berman here, a momentous day in the russia investigation or more specifically what seemed to be efforts to discredit said investigation. in just a few hours, the house intelligence committee could release a memo that republicans say outline abuses inside the special counsel's team. the president is all for

releasing this, even though his own justice department calls the release an extraordinarily reckless development. there are new details this morning about what is inside that memo. the new york times reports that it attacks rod rosenstein directly, the deputy attorney general, who appointed robert mueller as special counsel and oversees mueller's work even now. cnn's kaitlan collins has the latest developments on this from the white house. good morning, kaitlan? >> this memo alleges serious misconduct on the department of justice and the fbi against the trump campaign and according to this reporting from the new york times, specifically names the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein saying he approved the extension of surveillance of the former trump campaign aide and foreign policy adviser carter page. this is noteworthy because rosenstein is the person overseeing the russia investigation and this -- the white house so far, a source says the president would be for releasing this memo if they do

vote to declassify it. here's what we heard the latest from the white house this morning. >> it could shed light on allegations that have existed for some time. nobody has seen the memo at the white house. i haven't seen it. we will see what is in it if the house of representatives votes about it and the president will make a decision. the president hasn't seen it. >> reporter: releasing this he has been a point of contention. they're worried that it could be used to undermine the special counsel's investigation. now, it is worth noting that the president has been venting about rod rosenstein for some time now saying let's fire this guy, we think this is another government official out to get him. we have to note here that rod rosenstein was appointed by the president and is someone who has been a life-long republican. >> kaitlan collins for us at the white house, two key facts which counter some things that the

president says about rod rosenstein inside the white house. this vote in the house, the house intelligence committee, in just a few hours, to release the memo, seen as manu raju on capitol hill, watching the developments from there. manu? >> reporter: we don't know 100% for sure if this vote is going to happen tonight. it could happen as soon as tonight. that's because the house intelligence committee quietly scheduled a business meeting for tonight at 5:00 to discuss and vote on committee business. they have not confirmed if in fact the vote will be to release the nunes memo, give the president five days to decide whether or not to object to this, to allow its declassification. i've been talking to members and aides on the committee this morning and i can tell you, they don't know for sure exactly what is going to happen tonight either. what we do know is that the democrats are trying to push forward their own memo. adam schiff, the ranking democrat on the house intelligence committee, has drafted a memo based on the same underlying intelligence expected to come into sharply different

conclusions that the nunes memo. and schiff will push tonight for a vote in the committee to allow the full house to review this in a classified setting. we'll see if the committee agrees to do that. we expect them to do that. this comes, john, as there is a sharp divide between house republicans and senate republicans about whether or not to release this memo publicly. we reported last week that the senate intelligence committee requested the nunes staff to get a copy of the memo and they were declined access to it. other republicans are voicing concerns about moving forward to release it. >> i don't know what's in the memo, but -- >> they won't show it to senator burr. >> and i think that needs to be shared, but also my concern is whether it would compromise classified information. >> i want somebody outside of the republican led congress to look at these allegations. i'm not asking that lindsey graham be the final arbiter of whether the doj and the fbi was

off base. i don't want it released yet. i don't. i want somebody who is without a political bias to come in and look at the allegations i've seen. >> so, john, you're seeing a sharp divide within the republican party. house republican leaders have largely sided with their republican conference on the house side agreeing, pushing for its release. senate republicans suggesting they put on the brakes, siding with the justice department. we know the president, according to our own reporting, is inclined to allow its release. we'll see what they decide to do given the sharp divide within the party. but a key vote could happen as soon as tonight. we'll see if that's confirmed in a matter of hours. >> just to be clear, simple yes or no, the senate republicans, they have no say in this. the full house has no say in this. it is just the members of the house intelligence committee where the republicans have a majority and by all signs, the majority needed to pass this. >> that's right. senate republicans have no say whatsoever and the house intelligence committee can vote to send it to the president for

declassification, the full house doesn't have to vote on that. we'll see if the house committee will decide that today. >> the president says he wants this release, so every reason to believe this will go public. manu raju, thank you very much. joining me now, asha rangafa. let's talk about the latest reporting that seems to be inside this memo. republicans very upset for some reason, the deputy attorney general rod rosenstein extended the fisa warrants to surveil carter page, carter page obviously this foreign policy adviser to the trump campaign, somebody on the fbi's radar before the trump campaign because of his contacts with russia. help me understand what would be controversial about the deputy attorney general who, again, has oversight over this investigation, extending those warrants. >> well, john, this is exactly an example of how this memo is inaccurate and misleading. so deputy attorney general rosenstein doesn't have the authority to extend any kind of

surveillance at all. the department of justice has to go into a fisa court and request an extension of any surveillance that is ongoing. now, the deputy attorney general might sign off on allowing the attorneys to go into court to ask for it, but the ultimate decision would be made by a judge. here is an important point, john, when there is surveillance on a u.s. person, the department of justice has to go in every 90 days and show the court that they are getting valuable intelligence information in order for that surveillance to be extended. the carter page surveillance began in september. rosenstein came on board in march. that means that this fisa had already been extended before rosenstein even came on the picture, and that means the judge found that this surveillance was actually collecting valuable intelligence information, so it was a valid

fisa. there was a reason to have it in place. this is the kind of thing where these details need to be explained, otherwise they completely misconstrue what was happening. >> it is interesting, maybe it is not rosenstein's role in that, that's an issue here, maybe it is rosenstein's current role which is oversight over the special counsel's investigation. he is the one who appointed the special counsel after all. he's the one that robert mueller needs to go to do make reports on this investigation and if he wants to expand the scope at all, which, by the way, rod rosenstein hinted he let mueller do, he's got to sign off on that. >> that's right. so rosenstein is very key in mueller's investigation. mueller doesn't have to report to him day to day. but he does need to go to him for significant steps in the investigation as you said to expand the scope if he feels the need to do so. and by all accounts, rosenstein has been on board with the direction and scope of the investigation so far. so if this is a pretense to get rid of rosenstein, the president

could theoretically put someone else in place who could, you know, kill this investigation with death by a thousand cuts inside that no one would ever see and say, hey, look, i haven't touched mueller and have that kind of protection. i think we need to be very careful about what we understand to be rosenstein's role and how important it is. >> so, shifting gears if we can to go back to a time three or four days ago when the giant report was that the president tried to fire at one point the special counsel robert mueller, he asked his white house counsel to do it and he said over my dead body, if you do that, i'm going to quit. it turns out the president lied to the american people about that. last summer he said he had never considered firing robert mueller. we now learn that he did consider it. lying to the american people out loud in public no matter where you are may not be illegal. is it illegal, in fact?

but no less than the former independent counsel ken starr say it is something that should be looked at. listen to this. >> i think lying to the american people is a serious issue that has to be explored. i take lying to the american people very, very seriously. so absolutely. what dan was talking about was this effort to get rid of the investigation. you're now talking about something called lying to the american people and i think that is something that bob mueller should look at. >> new, it is interesting. we have a little bit of a feud between former independent counsels, you may not like it, but you can lie to the american people. that in and of itself isn't something that a special prosecutor should be investigating. what do you think? >> no, i don't think -- it is not a crime that i think would validly be within mueller's scope. as you said, the president can lie to the american people as unfortunate as that might be. however, i do think that that

pattern of key ddeception, the repeated stating again and again that he had never considered firing mueller does go to a knowledge that wanting mueller to be fired or even ordering him to be fired was improper. in other words, it is sounds like there was knowledge within this camp that that would have been an improper move and had he gone through it, it would be illegal or obstruction. i think that is something that mueller can use to bolster his case that, you know, trump really wanted this russia investigation to go away and that was what was on his mind when he fired james comey. it can be relevant to the investigation. but probably not a basis for any kind of criminal violation on its own. >> asha, great to have you with us. thank you so much. >> thank you. he had a long time fear of being poisoned. one reason why he liked to eat at mcdonald's. >> the overnight cameo that

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congress karen bass of california, representative, thank you so much for being with us. have you read, by the way, the republican memo? >> no, no, no. i'm not on the house intelligence committee, i'm on the house foreign affairs, however. >> they made it public, available to every member of congress to read. should they want to read it. based on what you know is insid it and based on your role on judiciary, do you think this is the type of memo that should be released? >> well, i think it would be fine to release the memo. but, you know. i do believe that the republicans are really treading in dangerous ground when they are using this as a reason to essentially undermine the investigation and at the end of the day, it is definitely to go after mueller. so i don't like the direction that they're headed. i think the investigation should be allowed to move forward. and concoct the conspiracy within the fbi, i believe, is a complete distraction. >> you say it is an effort to go after mueller. do you think that the special counsel -- do you think the

special counsel needs legislative protections right now? >> i do. i do. i think that would be a good idea. and to me it very similar to the legislation that was done around sanctions regarding russia and we're going to wait and see what happens with that. because congress did not have the confidence in the president to impose sanctions, you know, we did legislation that essentially we could override a veto. i think that in the same way we need to have that protection because it is no telling what the president is going to do one day to the next. >> the deadline on the sanctions, you mentioned the house foreign affairs committee, the sanction is today, and we're waiting to find out where the president, if the president places these sanctions by the end of business today. let's shift gears if we can to tomorrow night. the state of the union address is tomorrow night. will you be attending? >> you know, i haven't decided. if i don't go, it is not as an act of protest. if i choose not to go, it is really because i don't know whether or not i feel like subjecting myself to listen to

the president lie, which i believe he will do. and also to insult everybody under the sun. i'm sure he will be insulting immigrants with the policy that he's going to put forward, and i have no doubt that he will come after african-americans since he seems to take every opportunity to do that. >> so let's split that into parts, right? first, let's talk about immigrants right now. i imagine what he will do is he will speak out in support of his plan right now on the immigration deal, which does offer a path to citizenship for more than one and a half million so-called dreamers. a path to citizenship, a lot further than some republicans want to go, if democrats don't enter into this deal, how would you explain to one of those dreamers that you walked away from it? >> i do think that part of his deal is fine. but i think that where we need to negotiate is over dreamers and border security. what he has done and i believe it is very deliberate, instead of proposing comprehensive immigration reform, he's going after legal immigration as part

of it as well. so to -- to put family unification and to put visa lottery on the table, that is a very intentional attempt to divide people because the visa lottery system, which clearly he doesn't understand, the -- a large percentage of those immigrants are from africa, and so he is dividing people. it is very deliberate. i think we need to deal with the issues, which are the dreamers and border security, and then i think we need to address comprehensive immigration reform and that's where issues related to legal immigration should come to play. >> all right. let's talk about race. you brought it up directly. and let's talk about -- i think what is the most recent episode having to do with race where the president was involved. it just happens to be about something that happened on cnn, with jay-z. the musician, hip-hop artist on with van jones over the weekend. listen to the exchange between van and jay-z over the issue of

black unemployment, which is at a historic low. listen. >> it is not about money at the end of the day. money is not -- doesn't equate to happiness. it doesn't. that's not -- you're missing the whole point. you treat people like human beings. and then, you know, that's the main point. you can't treat someone like -- goes back to the whole thing. treat me really bad and pay me well. it is not going to lead to happiness. it is going to lead to, again, same thing, everyone is going to be sick. >> the president's response was a statement on twitter that reads, somebody please inform jay-z because of my policies, black unemployment has just been reported to be the lowest rate ever recorded. black unemployment is low. >> i believe it has absolutely little to do with his administration. we all know that the economy was doing better, it was on an upswing, black unemployment was decreasing and it was due to

policies that were started in the obama administration. trump from the first day of his presidency has tried to roll back gains that the african-american population made in the civil rights movement, whether you're talking about voting rights, mass incarceration, you can go down the list, trying to dismantle the civil rights division within the department of justice, the notion of black identity extremists to go after young african-americans who are protesting around police abuse. so his administration in my opinion has been an attack on the african-american population from day one. and he doesn't let a month go by without attacking african-americans. so i think he wants to be grateful for the fact that our unemployment rate is down, even though it is still twice as high as the unemployment rate for white americans, and the fact that the economy is getting better, i do not believe it is due to his policies and i don't think that we have anything to be grateful for to his administration. >> all right, representative

karen bass, thanks so much for being with us, appreciate it. >> thanks for having me on. cameo controversy. hillary clinton slammed by some for really trolling the president.

overnight, the trolling heard around the world. hillary clinton at the grammys doing a dramatic reading from the controversial book fire and fury. >> he had a long time fear of being poisoned. one reason why he liked to eat at mcdonald's, nobody knew he was coming and the food was safely premade. >> that's it. we've got it. that's the one. >> you think so?

>> the grammy's in the bag? >> in the bag. >> joining me now, ron brownstein, senior political analyst a analyst. funny or fail here. look, "fire and fury" is not without controversy. it quotes steve bannon. that had great effect. but there are things in the book that are simply not true. >> i mean, that's all true, but the book and its, you know, the response it has gotten, that's all over the place. he's president. she isn't. he won, she lost. i thought it was pretty funny, actually. and she's reading about that he likes to eat at mcdonald's. i didn't see the -- there are a lot of things to take umbrage from, but if you were the trump administration last night, but i don't think this was one of them. >> it is interesting, doug, i have seen responses from republicans and conservatives going as far as saying this is why hillary lost. thinking that what she said was

of that magnitude. and then also what nikki haley said, the former governor of south carolina, ambassador to the united nations, who said i've always loved the grammys, but to have artists read the fire and fury book killed it, don't ruin great music with trash, some of us love music without the politics thrown into it. her gripe might be the "fire and fury" spread scurrilous rumors about her. what do you make of it? >> this is why hillary clinton lost. the aura of celebrity that surrounded her campaign meant her campaign was often bereft of issues. i also think it shows last night shows, and unfortunately i'll be blatantly stealing from a ron brownstein tweet, this shows the an absolute disconnect that republicans have and the damage that trump has caused the republican brand. if you're a young voter, if you're a millennial, you have turned away in droves from the republican party, and what we saw last night is a reason why. it is not because of celebrity,

it is from what we have seen of the rhetoric from the white house and other extremist republicans who have turned young people away from the party. >> we happen to have marcia mccloughan with us, you see something that will have an impact going forward. >> i think it was probably an overreach to include hillary clinton. but that can obscure the real point here, which was that every figure, celebrity, artist from the stage who referred to donald trump in any way, however obliquely portrayed him as racist and xenophobic. and you can say, well, they're celebrities, who cares, you can say in trump country they don't want to hear from these voices, but these are artists who both speak to and reflect in the diversity they embody on stage, the millennial generation and the post millennial generation who are rising in the electorate. the millennials the biggest

share of eligible voters for first time in 2018. i see polling where 75% of millennials say he does not reflect their values. a poll out today where 19 -- his approval rating among millennials is at 19%. there is a real risk to republicans in the way that donald trump is stamping the party in the eyes of these diverse younger generations as one that is racially intolerant and to kind of dismiss it as just a bunch of celebrities mouthing off from what you saw last night, i think it is a bury your head in the sand about something that is very real. >> given all of this, and -- >> go ahead. >> i was just going to say, i take that even a little bit further. younger republicans, republicans under 45, are moving away from this part of the party. that's what happened in alabama. that was a group that doug jones when he won won a considerable number of votes under 45 within

the republican party. not just democrats and independents. and i think that what ron is pointing to is creating problems across the board in that generation. >> doug, talk to me about the fight that seems to be picked now by the white house and the house intelligence committee over this memo. the devin nunes memo, the house intelligence committee could vote as soon as this afternoon to make this memo public and the revelation is that among other things it goes after rod rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, for extending -- for recommending the extension of a fisa warrant on carter page. i'm not sure i understand for republicans why they like this fight. >> let me quote john berman and say, i don't understand why republicans like this fight. i think it is a very dangerous place for republicans to go into regardless of what is in the memo itself. a, demanding that something that is classified be released presents a problem, b, we have seen more and more republicans go out there and attack law

enforcement. if you go back two years ago, six, ten years ago, law enforcement and the military were two bedrocks that were places that republicans always stood beside and stood behind. what we're seeing with these investigations is more and more republicans are calling into question the investigation, the fbi in general, i think that could potentially take us to a very dangerous place. and to joe's point, i'm at the very precipice of that at the very limit of what he might consider a young republican at this point. don't ask me three months what my age is, but i have -- >> we're going to fact check this. you can't come on and spread falsehoods like this. go ahead. >> i have same problems with where the party is going on absolutely attacking law enforcement on minorities, on immigration. there are a lot of republicans who want to step up and do the right thing, which is why donald trump's comments tomorrow night are going to be very interesting and why republicans are really going to be at the edge of their seat until they get that written transcript and we see where the president is going.

not just on immigration, but on these issues as a whole and where he goes off script. >> on rod rosenstein, on special counsel robert mueller, last hour i had a congressman on who wouldn't answer the question on whether he would object if the president fired robert mueller. i can't help but think that this timing isn't coincidental. this is all going on around this time frame when the president might be sitting down with the special counsel or not, i suppose. >> right. and you see the evolution of the republicans in congress who as doug said started off the trump presidency with much more wariness, much more independence, much more determination to defend the institutions that the core of the american law enforcement system. and they have made their decision, even as the waves around the trump administration have grown, you know, wilder and higher, they have lashed themselves more tightly to the mass of the ship.

and the base -- they have set in motion -- the basic dynamic i think of 2018 and the 2018 election will be do voters who are ambivalent at best about a president who struggles to rise above feel that a republican controlled congress is providing sufficient check and oversight on him. and they have chosen to go completely, especially in the house, in the other direction. and to kind of this defense of the president and maybe fine in a lot of ruby red districts, but in the swing districts, the desire for some kind of check among voters who as i say are at best ambivalent if not openly concerned about him is going to be a huge head wind for many of these republicans and toughest districts. >> all right, ron, joe, doug, thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you. you may not think twice if you track your workouts and load them on social media, but if you're running on a military base, now this is something you really do need to think about.

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nothing wrong with a good work out or tracking that workout on a fitness device like strava, that is if that app is posting the map of the workout for all to see. our pentagon correspondent barbara starr joins us now with that. this is a serious issue. >> reporter: it is. nobody is very happy about that at the pentagon this morning, i have to tell you. so you're right, what happens is if you use one of these applications, basically it uploads your fitness data if you went on a jog through downtown mogadishu, somalia, areas where there is not a lot of this fitness activity perhaps from your fit bit or other device, suddenly this map is -- is showing where this kind of activity pops up.

if it is a remote area of africa, afghanistan, iraq, syria, who else would it really be other than perhaps u.s. troops out for a, you know, morning run? and that's the problem. it shows the security profile of where u.s. troops may be located. big problem, they're supposed to be trained to turn on the privacy settings on these kinds of devices. and not show their locations. but apparently that's not happening. the pentagon issuing a statement about this a short time ago saying, quote, dot takes matters like this very seriously and is evaluating the situations to determine if any additional training or guidance is required, use your privacy settings. and if any additional policy must be developed to ensure the continued safety of dod personnel at home and abroad. but the company issuing a statement overnight saying that this should be excluding activities and locations which are privacy secured.

so a lot of concern about it. it is a problem. but dod personnel, government personnel with security concerns are supposed to obey their training to turn on their privacy settings. >> i will suggest, it is not always easy to understand the settings in these devices. so i'm told. i should also note this story first came out of the washington post, a fascinating story over the weekend. an incredibly violent few days in afghanistan, including a new attack targeted today. >> what a disaster for the people of afghanistan and especially the people in the capital of kabul. another attack today against an afghan military base, 11 killed there. this comes days after the massive attack, an ambulance exploding outside a hospital, more than 100 killed a few days ago and attack against a hotel, several killed there. an attack in another area of afghanistan against a children's charity. very, very tragic for the people there and very tough timing for

president trump, especially before state of the union. he's been touting, of course, that the u.s. is winning in afghanistan for the people being killed there perhaps their families have quite a different view after 16 years still a very tough story, a very tough business there. the capital clearly not secured, the taliban and isis in afghanistan taking credit for the various attacks that are just plaguing that country, john. >> barbara starr at the pentagon for us. great to have you. thanks so much. a stunning new report about a key figure at the center of the russia probe. this is a remarkable piece of journalism here, charting the rise of campaign chair, one time campaign chair paul manafort and his attitude and emotional state just before he linked with the trump campaign. stick around. your insurance company

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tears, you say he was suicidal at one point. this is 2015. by 2016, he's the campaign chair for the republican nominee. how did that happen? >> on the eve of joining the trump campaign, manafort went and called some of his oldest friends in washington and he reported to them that he was joining the trump campaign. and they said to him, are you sure? and some of them said are you crazy? they knew he had this decades long history that wouldn't look so good when exposed to the scrutiny of being at the center of a major presidential campaign. but as you note, in the year leading up to the trump campaign, his life had crumbled, professionally his life crumbled. he spent the previous ten years working in ukraine for the president of ukraine, they had a very, very personal relationship and it had been extremely lucrative for paul manafort. he made tens of millions of dollars working in ukraine. but suddenly in 2014, there was

a revolution, and that client dried up. he was deposed from power, had to go into exile in russia. so manafort didn't have a client. which meant he didn't have the sense of self-esteem that went with his work, the status, the power, these things he craved. financially his life started to crumble. because his money was parked in cyprus and other tax havens, he wasn't able to move it back into the united states lest he be accused of money laundering and the fbi had begun to investigate his finances. so he didn't have the money that he was accustomed to having. and his daughter in text messages complained that for her wedding weekend manafort had cut out the line-item for ice because cash flow had been tight. and then personally his life was starting to crumble because he had an affair and his family had caught him twice in the affair and they insisted that he went to this rehab clinic that you mentioned. so there was a set of -- a sense

of desperation that led him to reach out to the trump campaign and actively try to get a job with them. >> any sense that the trump campaign knew this as they were bringing this person on to run things? >> no. i mean, the trump campaign as you know doesn't necessarily apply the greatest scrutiny or vetting to people that it invites into the campaign. and for trump, manafort fit the bill. the campaign in -- in the early months of 2016 had rocketed to the front of the field, yet they needed establishment credibility and they also had improvised everything. and manafort was the guy who worked for dole, he worked for reagan, so he brought this technical expertise that they were craving at that moment. >> let me ask you, you have a tantalizing line, manafort's role in the broader narrative remains carefully guarded and unknown to the public. look, we know that he's been indicted for money laundering and falsifying records.

this all happened before he was the trump campaign chair. the question is, does he play a role in the larger investigation into possible collusion, if you want to put that word in quotation marks. any of your reporting, any sense that he may overlap these two areas? >> well, clearly the stuff we know in public view suggests that there is some overlap. he was at that famous trump tower meeting that donald trump jr. organized and we know there was this moment where as chair of the campaign, the republicans changed the platform position on arming ukrainians in a way that suited the russians and his old clients in ukraine, but we really don't know how everything fits together and what we do know is that robert mueller has a careful strategy where he's got all these different pieces, all these different characters, and he's trying to leverage one indictment to secure the next indictment.

and so the indictment that he issued last october was very narrow. it was, as you say, it was focused on money laundering, focused on activity that transpired way before the trump campaign. so the question is was mueller targeting him on that -- on those questions where he was extremely vulnerable in order to bargain up. >> great report, thanks so much for being with us. go read it, everybody. we'll be right back. if you've been diagnosed with cancer, searching for answers may feel overwhelming. so start your search with our teams of specialists at cancer treatment centers of america. the evolution of cancer care is here. learn more at cancercenter.com/experts

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the hillary clinton cameo made headlines, but the me too movement front and center as well. one of the most powerful moments, an emotion packed performance by kesha. ♪ i hope you find your peace falling on your knees praying ♪ >> chloe milas, it is interesting, in a lot of ways women weren't getting all the nominations per se, but the issue really central. >> yes. exactly. when kesha took the stage last night, myself, a lot of people got chill s. she's at forefront of the me too movement in the music industry, long before this took hollywood by storm over the past few months because she's been in a battle back and forth with her producer dr. luke. she hasn't been able to make new music, she was under this contract and allegations that, you know, that he did things to

her and she -- she took the stage with all these women wearing white, it was incredible and also camila cabello, she took on president trump's issues with immigration and it was really incredible to see what she had to say. >> we have a clip of that? >> i'm sure we do. >> tonight in this room full of music's dreamers, we remember this country was built by dreamers, for dreamers, chasing the american dream. >> to all the beautiful countries filled with culture, diversity and thousands of years of history, you are -- >> it was just -- it was just really incredible to see so many people take on not just political but social and me too issues last night. it was an incredible night with statements. >> i think it shows the endurance of this moment. you're going to see it at the awards shows and at the oscars. >> yes, the oscars, definitely. >> great to have you here with us, thank you so much. sorry it was so brief.

we are out of time today. a lot of news going on. we have our eyes on the house of representatives to see what it chooses to do with this memo alleging abuses inside the russia investigation. that is all for me today. i'm john berman. "at this hour" starts now. >> i'm brianna keilar in for kate bolduan. the house intel committee could vote today to release a memo spearheaded by committee chairman devin nunes claiming the fbi abused the surveillance law as it sought a warrant for former trump campaign foreign policy adviser carter page. democrats say the memo is just an effort to undermine the special counsel investigation into russian election meddling and possible collu