tv Situation Room With Wolf Blitzer CNN January 30, 2018 2:00pm-3:00pm PST
that's it for "the lead" today. i will see you later for the state of the union. we'll see you in a bit. thanks for watching. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com happening now, state of frustration. president trump heads into the state of the union address. >> the president is eager to release the controversial gop memo with alleged fbi abuses as quickly as possible but only after his state of the union speech. >> and looming battles. the president's speech comes just ahead of major battles over immigration and the threat of yet another government shutdown. with major foreign policy challenges including north korea looming ominously. >> i want to welcome our viewers. >> you're in "the situation room."
we're following breaking news as president trump makes final preparations for his first state of the union address. >> the president had take the spotlight as the cloud of controversy hangs over capitol hill stirred up by the republican memo alleging abuses in the investigation. we may also be counting down to the release of the controversial memo. sources say the president wants it out as soon as possible. >> will all of that affect plans to discuss infrastructure and immigration and the call for unity. what's the latest? >> while the president is not expected to address the russia investigation, it is on his mind. trump has grown increasingly impatient with the special
counsel's office, sources close to the white house saying it is still possible the president could fire robert mueller. the source told cnn, and we can put this onscreen if we have it. anybody who knows trump best knows it is a possibility. this guy is a street fighter and he thinks this mueller investigation is bs. according to a source close to the white house who is familiar with the speech. as for the memo, you just mentioned alleging abuses, moimp favors releasing it. that will happen after state of the union speech. we should note that white house press secretary sarah sanders said at the moment there are no current plans to release the memo. there will be tough talk for north korea. a sources familiar with it said that portion of the address will likely be the one that generates the headlines, telling us, web also put this up on the screen. it will be eye opening.
in the words of the source terms what the president had say. we should note in recent days, mike pompeo has made some dire predictions about the nuclear program saying the regime could have nuclear weapon that's could strike u.s. within a handful of months. as for other portions of the speech. the president is expected to make his pitch for a $1.7 billion claim as well as the proposal to grant citizen sthoip more than 1 million immigrants. the president has been telling supporters he about his immigration proposal and how he views it which calls for a wall and other major changes to the immigration system he is hoping democrats will take him up on it. the president wants it to be a unifying speech. this is a state of the disunion.
>> you're right. thank you. jim acosta up on capitol hill. the battle lines are drawn. on the democratic side, they're mounting fury over the looming release of the republican memo. let's go to our senior correspondent. what are you learning? >> house republicans are defending the release of that memo in saying that they did so because this is what was the process they followed under the rules in their decision to not release the democratic memo at the same time it caused a lot of bash lash from democrats on capitol hill saying they've moved forward to provide a distorted narrative with what they did during the election. what paul ryan, the house speaker said, is that this memo raised questions about whether or not civil rights were violated. he suggested there could be quote, malfeasance. and it was up to the american public to review this themselves
when and if this comes out publicly. when i had a chance to ask paul ryan about the decision tonight release the democratic memo at the same time, he said they were following the rules. >> this memo talked about yesterday, unlike the democrats who voted to deny access to the memo to the broader members, republicans supported doing so. so he made the motion. it will go through that 11 g process like the other memo did. >> as he was mentioning, the chairman went to the fbi to go through the memo. to make sure that we were protecting any sources and methods and we are confident that we are. none of that work has been done on this new memo. but the republicans voted to allow the rest of the members to read it so it can go through process. you've asked enough. >> is there some reporting that the president wants to fire
department a.g. rod rosenstein? >> i think he's doing a fine job and i have no reason to know why he would do that. he was hired arrest the last election. i think the people at the fbi, the d.o.j., need clean their own house. and he came in after the last election. >> so an interesting remark about rob rosenstein. we know from this republican memo, it does single him out and we expect him to come under a lot of pressure from conservative critics in particular for him to recuse himself from the russia investigation and republican that's i talked on earlier today were saying that rosenstein should step aside, presumably even resign. saying that there were no common
rules to release the memo. this is a rule they have invoked for the first time in roughly 40 years for the house intelligence committee's, to declassify and it give president five dies decide on its release. we expect it to come out any day now. >> thanks very much. anderson, ordver to you. >> to our panel. david, there seems to be a disconne disconnect. they got a chance to look at the memo we want released. the department of justice are is saying it is reckless to release and it he democrats say looking at i, it doesn't mean the fbi has done a deep dive on it. >> exactly. it is donald trump's justice department that is against having it released. i think what you're seeing is
the republican leadership. he tried to decouple the politics from the process. they're inextricably linked. they're trying to muddy the waters. paul ryan trying to stay above it. it. >> the republicans are saying, look, we have oversight to protect the citizens, if there's been malfeasance, it is our job to provide oversight. >> who do you trust in the midst of thought? to underminor save the president, the base feels that they're doing the things that they want. saving issues of family, abortion, not abortion. and attaches and things of that nature. here's the issue.
it is balled up into this investigation. and any tumors under tie it would be causing more of a mess. this is a more than pit of a mess. it is for the fbi to do its job. >> look, the idea of there being this process that you have to stoik that will take days or a week for the democrats' memo to get out there. that's just bunk. >> when devin nunes was crafting this memo, much like the supreme court, when a ruling is made, democrats are right on this. they are. has the political memo by devin nunes to try, as david said, to muck the waters around the investigation. and i think we have to go beyond today or tomorrow and look what will happen two weeks, two months down the road.
trust is now out the window. we talk about how partisanship is at an all time high. i think it is and that will just slow down any kind of progress on anything you see over the next year. >> reporting from the white house. the president wants this memo released but not before the state of the union. >> they don't want to tramp actually message. this message of bipartisanship. there's no question the president wants it released as quickly as possible. we know this because even as last week when the president was flying on air force one he erupted at his aides when he found out there were efforts to block its release. so we know there's no doubt that he wants it released even though the white house said there are no plans to release it sa.
>> the other question, what will the president say about russia if anything? mike pompeo said he has every expectation that russia will interfere again. looking at president nixon where he is talking about the watergate investigation, i want to play that. it is an interesting look back. >> i would add a personal comment over an issue that has been of great concern to all americans in the past year. i refer to the investigations of the so-called watergate affair. as you know, i have provided to the special prosecutor voluntarily a great deal of material. i believe that i have provided all the material that he needs to could not clues the
investigation and to proceed to prosecute the guilty and to clear at the innocent. i believe the time has come to bring that investigation and the other investigations of this matter to an end. one year of watergate is enough. >> interesting to their response there from the republicans there. >> yeah. we should note, it was six and a half months later that he left office and resigned after he gave those remarks. it is a moment in his triflt all indications are donald trump is not looking the remake that moment. he doesn't want to discuss the russia investigation at all. i don't think the president has ever been as clear about what russia's intent is he with the 2018 elections and beyond. pompeo clearly takes it seriously but the president doesn't seem to press the concern. >> i find this all interesting
as we talk about the past. we talk about the history. we look at watergate. this president also moves the goalpost as well. things have forever changed with how the president deals with another portion of his administration. so what happens if there's a concern about tampering again? >> can i make a quick prediction? he might not say it in the speech tonight but i guarantee within 12 hours, he will tweet about it. >> up next, bitter partisan divisions. wolf blitzer will speak live with the budget chief next. your insurance company
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♪ ♪ olly. joining us now, mick mulvany. thank you for joining us. >> it is a little chilly. i won't keep you all that long. let's get through a couple of newsy questions. have you ever personally heard the president complain about robert mueller's investigation or threaten to fire -- >> yeah. you and i have talked about this before. i don't think the president has ever raised russia to me a single time. i'm the budget direct or, the
acting director. he's never mentioned it in a single instance. >> you're a former member of congress. there's a buy group to protect robert mueller's job. do you think congress should take place to make sure robert mueller is able to finish his investigation without interference? >> that's a great question to ask from the legislature. they have the right to do that. they make the laws. we enforce them. this is not something i get involved with on a day-to-day basis. i am happy to talk about the speech if you would like. why is the trump administration so eager to get involved with the sanctions issue? the measure was overwhelmingly pass passed. the administration, the deadline was yesterday. still reluck the attendant --
still reluctant. >> i've talked to the secretary at the treasury today and i am confident they are going through the steps necessary to implement the law. we will implement the law fully. just because the treasury department wants to take time. >> you've had all these months to do it. the deadline was yesterday. no new sanctions have been opposed. >> we do look forward to getting the details from treasury. they are heavily involved because of the nature of the sanctions. >> all right. let's talk about the president's important speech. according to a source, the president plans to propose $1.7 trillion of new infrastructure spending during the state of the union address to rebuild roads, highways, airports. how much of that is private spending and how much of it will
be funded by. at a pairs? >> i don't know if the president he will go into those details? you will see some of the most innovative financing for the legislature and state and local. it accounts for almost 80% of what we have now. the federal government only has 20%. if you don't fix the at of time it takes to build a road, we won't solve the problem so you'll hear about fixing the regulatory regime in which infrastructure gets built or not in this country. >> where will the money come from? hundreds of billions of dollars. will there be new taxes? will there be cuts in spending? >> just as in the fy 18 budget.
we're working at putting the finishing touches on the the fy 19 budget. federal money will be counted for in the budget. no new revenue raised. >> so it will come from cuts in existing spending? is that what you're saying? >> last year we increased spending in certain areas. decreased it in others. also negotiate go with the hill. >> i think too early to see what it will look like. >> so still a work in progress. you won your first race. i remember in 2010 when you were running for the house of representatives by hammering them for stimulus spending which included massive investments in infrastructure. why is this different right now? >> a couple of things. very little of that money got to infrastructure. and secondly, and most importantly.
it didn't actually solve the infrastructure problem. keep in mind, if it takes ten years to build a road, if we throw a bunch of money at roads tomorrow, they won't be on the ground for ten years at least. you can look to the example of other countries that have more stringent environmental laws. canada and australia come to mind. they are able to enforce the laws. it only takes about two years to build a road or a bridge. these are models we can put into place. if you're not serious about change go the regulatory requirement, i don't think president obama was. >> are we any closer to a deal on the budget? the new deadline is a week from thursday. >> i think the senate democrats telegraphing that they're willing to separate out daca from the funding bill. down the road toward keeping the government open again. i don't think you will see a shutdown again. during the shutdown, the only reason we had it was the senate
democrats wanted it. i don't think they want it anymore. whether or not we have a comprehensive spending agreement by february 8, i think that remains to be seen. >> senator rubio talked about considering a back-up operation. he tweeted, great if senate could pass bill that deals with daca, border, nuclear family. >> would the president be interested in a narrower deal? >> i think we've been asked that question a couple times. the answer is, it is on the table. we thought it was a fair deal. a deal by the way that i understand has sort of drawn attacks from the far left and the far right. to me that means the president has sort of thread that had needle. a very difficult needle. keep in mind the obama administration was not able to fix immigration despite having
60 votes in the senate and in the house. it is a tough thing to get done bust this might be the weather is spot. >> one final question. the border wall with mexico. how much will go for the wall? how much will go for new personnel, i.c.e. agents, border police, how much will go for other technology to deal with illegal immigration? >> that remains to be seen. a lot of assumptions that go into how you want to build the wall. the actual wall itself is in the nature of $18 billion. we look at the wall like. this border security is pti. people, technology and infrastructure. >> $18 billion for the wall. thank you very much for joining us. coming up as we count down to the state of the union address, president trump will make an appeal for unity. what can he say about the bitter
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commentators. what are you expecting? >> i'm not expecting a speech makes any difference on the unity front. >> a lot of boycotdemocrats are boycotting it. >> i can tell that you they're fighting about it three hours before the speech. there's a republican congressman from arizona who called the capitol police and said please check everybody's immigration status going to the address. and the republican senator from arizona came out to slam him and many the republican from my district came out to slam him. so we are seeing disunity in the republican party. last year we heard donald trump say the time for trivial fights is over. since then we had him fighting with the nfl, with meryl streep, that nordstrom's. i can sit here all night and talk about trivial fights he's engaged in. this is trump giving a speech
off a teleprompter. but the guy tweeting tomorrow is the real donald trump. >> if the president is calling for infrastructure, something the democrats have said they like. is it a good look for democrats to be walking out? >> no. i wish they weren't i think he should be there at that moment. the president has done nothing but divide since he took oath of office. i respect it. a lot of people in my party are appalled. i think everyone you to attend and respect the office, if not the man. but the burden is especially on the president, not the audience. and this is a huge missed opportunity. had he begun his presidency with a bipartisan infrastructure package torsion put working people back to boring. to raise wages for the middle class and poor folks.
to fix roads and bridgesest could have brought a half dozen democrats in with him. but he is a divider. not a uniter. the real donald trump who wants to turn americans against each other. on race, on religion on, geography. he'll put the words on the screen. he'll read them mostly in the right order and we'll all pretend that's impressive. >> i always love hearing from my friends on the left but i couldn't disagree any stronger. anyone who has sboen the president recently knows he is in a great mood. he will sgoom the speech and talk about how this has been the most successful, if not one. most successful, the first years of any presidency that we've ever had. he'll lay out some division of what he wants to do in 2018. some of it will be issues but in tone. i think he will communicate to
how this is impacting people in their lives. the key part is a remarkably self-aware point. tonight is huge. other than elections, state of the union speeches are huge. he knows it is when tens of millions around the country are get go paycheck increases. he knows his policies are having a real deal impact. i think he will build the speech around it. >> i've been through 22 state of the union addresses. i just came from the house a few hours ago. i can tell you that members are all excited about it. i talked to two members who wouldn't be there. i talked to the cheryl. transportation committee. extremely fired up about the infrastructure vision. i talked to other members.
kevin brady earlier, cheryl. ways and means committee. think about this. 3.wound million americans have received bonuses because of the tax cut. americans with 401(k)s and those who prospered because of the growth of this economy. he will be able to say, we'll have our differences. as americans, don't we want to get behind the unity? >> what would you say is more successful? >> in the 254 years of america. a debacle. the first thing was to try to repeal and replace obamacare. not just the president. the incompetence. this is my favorite week of the year. here is my home town payment the wash post. i still receive news on dead trees. all over america people are picking up their payments. this is the lead story.
if the white house were competent, this story would be about infrastructure or their plan to take on the opioid issue. committee votes to release memo alleging fbi bias. just what they need to be doing. i'm not saying it is part sandal. what these dopes need to be doing is do what people want and talk about opioids. >> let had him finish. >> i'm saying this as professional communicate or. not as a democrat. as a karate guess i want him to stay at 40 or 35. as a president i want him to succeed. he has people work hard on vets, on infrastructure. we're not talking about it. it is like super bowl week if bill belichick spends the week talking about the referees,
trying fire commissioner and criticizing justin timberlake. >> i have to borrow your prop. this is why democrats lost. because democrats care more about the vote than people's paychecks. you talk about veterans. the accountability act. all the great things trump has been doing. >> why aren't these morons rolling it out in a professional way? >> there's an important point tonight. >> it is the one time, it is a seven course meal and you're going to sit through the whole thing. he does round robin talking about all the agencies, what they're doing, i think they're going to hear some real success stories.
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i take your point. bits how the president communicates. somebody reference that's he can tweet the next day and drive a whole news cycle. in previous presidencies, it was about a roll up, roll out. go barn storming the country to sell it. presidents would build a whole strategy around this moment to make it resonate. that doesn't seem to be the case with this white house. they will be on to another topic entirely. >> this is one of those moments the world looks the see how presidential the commander in chief is and the will of the house. to see how he works the crowd. how he resonates with the american community. and there is that one piece that we all wait to find out no matter what situation. i think this is both democrat and republican. we want to know state of our
union. and right now, yesterday, i asked sarah huckabee sanders. when the president is going to the well of the house, they go withment on mix. with all this hanging over his hess, what is the state of our union? she said it is incredible. so if the president use that's word, i want to hear, how does he tell us it is incredible? how does he keep it moving forward? and the infrastructure is a big piece of. . >> and i think it is a very wash thing. people will say it was a presidential speech if he doesn't rif or respond to someone in the courthouse crowd. the government shutdown last week, we're going to run out of money a week from thursday. no one can agree what to do with immigration. does it really reflect a unified
washington? >> last year, people said he read the script. i remember our colleague van jones saying he became presidential. the problem is since that motel, he's 365 days when he wasn't presidential. so i think you'll hear some say he was president residential and the rest of us will say he pro announced his syllables right. >> he's been rehearsing. >> i take umbrage with the fact that you call me a geek. i think i'm a goof. i might be surrounded by geeks. >> i'm a nerd. >> the president is sboouk a chamber where half the chamber is against him. as much as he'll be presidential, we don't expect him to go off the rails. and i think we have to watch
this. if the democrats are consistently booing him, that's where you could see him lose his train of thought and ref back to the train of thought. >> i don't see him doing the that. we were talking about when bill clinton was in a difficult period of time when bill clinton was in the whitewater investigation. we thought how co-go through with it? congress is there. i've been part of it. we are props. we is it down and we stand up and cheer. he will talk about the economy and jobs. >> baltimore the night they put the wrong -- was that the night they put the wrong speech in? it was incredible. >> it's a long story. a certain unnamed morning anchor
are was part of that, too. did he just adlib it? >> over nine minutes. he adlibed it. it was on health care. a few people knew, vice president gore knew, he was that able. it is a blessing to have a guy like that who could carry the burden of having an idiot staffer like me mess it up. >> you could tell there was something going on. we had seen president clinton. he was a great speaker. as he great speaker. but you could tell he was a little bit off. they said do you think he has some kind of a medicated drug issue or something? but did he a good job. >> as we talk about president trump, he gets the big moments. as we saw last year, he
understand when's people are standing for you. he talks about the need for immigration reform. to fix broken immigration system. democrats to have stand for that. they can't say we'll shut it down. >> he won't get -- >> we only have eight more hours to talk about this. i'll toss to it wolf. >> remember that speech by bill clinton very, very vividly. still ahead, sources telling c cnn.
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we are following multiple breaking stories as we await president trump's address. a false alarm alert that was sent out in hawaii earlier this month. renee, what are you learning? >> ha sparked 38 minutes of sheer panic in hawaii. the employee who sent the alert that you are the it was the real thing, an incoming ballistic missile and didn't know this was a drill according to the federal communications commission. they concluded their preliminary investigation. it shows a supervisor called the hawaii emergency management
agency center, later reporting it included the words exercise, exercise, exercise. for some reason, other parts of the protocol for the drill were not followed and sounded like, to this employee, it was the real thing and caused all the confusion. other employees did recognize it was only a drill. the person who pressed the button did not. take a listen to what state investigators had to say. >> when it became apparent the alert was issued, employee one seemed confused. he froze. another employee had to take over his responsibilities. employee one also had a history of confusing drill and real world events. >> all right. that employee has since been fired. of course, wolf, this raises a lot of major issues.
fcc says they are still investigating, but the two things they have already determined is, number one, they didn't have the safeguards in place to prevent a false alarm from happening in the first place and also didn't have the procedures in place to figure out how to respond. why is this all so critical? i mean, if you have a false alarm, warning about something as serious as a ballistic missile, you want to make sure that the people who are hearing it trust the system and trust that it works, so when it is the real life thing, they will respond appropriately. that's why it is so critical. >> make sure it doesn't happen again in hawaii or any place else. coming up, president trump heads to his first state of the union address angry by the russia investigation hanging over him. firing the special counsel, robert mueller, is still a possibility. [ clock ticking ]
what can a president do in thirty seconds? he can fire an fbi director who won't pledge his loyalty. he can order the deportation of a million immigrant children. he can threaten an unstable dictator armed with nuclear weapons. he can go into a rage and enter the nuclear launch codes. how bad does it have to get before congress does something? what's critical thinking like? a basketball costs $14. what's team spirit worth? (cheers) what's it worth to talk to your mom? what's the value of a walk in the woods? the value of capital is to create, not just wealth, but things that matter. morgan stanley
happening now, breaking news. state of disunion. president trump is getting ready to address the nation, promising the message of unity as they discredit the russian investigation, fuel partisan theory and distrust. is he still considering the firing of the special counsel? >> we are learning the president wants to release the secret gop memo on the fbi. how soon will it happen after his speech? >> unsanctioned. is mr. trump snubbing the