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thank you. president trump made a big announcement in a wall street, apparently not too happy." the lead" starts right now. dow dropping sharply after president trump announced new policy that some fear sparks a trade war and mean higher prices for everything from the car, washer and drier to your beer. the white house in total chaos and morale at an all-time low. could conflicts of interest be the end of jared kushner's career? the shocking report that his business got $500 million in loans amidst multiple meetings at the white house. plus, a statement that's pretty much a dare, plus a defiant dinner, and a bullet proof vest, and now a president fuming at his hand picked attorney general. who wins the battle between jeff sessions and president trump? >> good afternoon, everyone,
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welcome to the "the lead," i'm jack tapper. chaotic week for the trump administration struggling with one crisis after another now as the dow closed down more than 400 points at president trump announced his intention to impose new tariffs on steel and aluminum. it was down more than 500 points earlier. the tariffs raising concern about a possible trade war. this comes as the white house grapples with another bomb shell report involving presidential son-in-law and senior adviser, jared kushner. the new york times revealed the business received loans from companies totaling half a billion dollars amidst kushner in his capacity as a courthouse official meeting with the heads of those companies. the founder of apollo global management met with him on multiple occasions beginning in early 2017, three sources told the "new york times" advising the administration, according to a cnn source familiar with the
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conversations, was also talking about a possible role with the white house. that was discussed, though, it was never -- though it never materialized. in november 2017 after all the meetings, kushner's company was given a loan by apollo global management. citigroup lent his company and one of the partners $325 million for a different project, a loan made last spring after which kushner met with the citi group executive. and they said the loan went through the standard approval process, and said the ceo was not involved in the transaction or discussed it with jared kushner. a spokesman said, quote, he's met with hundreds of business people in the campaign, transition, to the administration to hear ideas about improving the american economy. he's had no role in the kushner companies since joining the government and took no part in business loans or projects with
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or for the companies after that. we should note, kushner remains part owner of the company that got the loan from apollo after he met with the head of apollo in his official white house capacity and jared kushner owns a stake in the entity that got the loan from citigroup after which he met with the ceo of citigroup in his capacity as a white house official. this report is the latest calling into question his ability to function in his position as senior adviser, but sources say he plans to stay and white house reaffirmed that, the president wants him to. now we go to pamela brown. we have seen many weeks at this white house. is there any sense among allies of president trump that this time all the tulmult, that it's different in any way? >> reporter: one thing after the
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other, and there is a sense in the white house that the morale plummeted, and it feels to some staffers who are used to the chaos, mind you, that things seem to be in a downward spiral, even with today's tariff announcement, jake, many staffers were left in the dark on one of the major trade decisions that caused the stock market to go down in reaction, but today the white house press secretary down played there was chaos surrounding that announcement and beyond. president trump announcing plans to impose tariffs on steel and aluminum next week, a move that could spark a trade war. >> workers in our country have not been properly represented, so we're going to build our steel industry back and build our aluminum industry back. >> reporter: the president outlined tariffs, 20% on steel and 10% on aluminum during hastily arranged comments at the white house. the move aimed at fulfilling a long time campaign promise come the day after the white house anoup
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announced pending resignation of one of the president's longest serving and closest advisers, the communication director, hope hicks. >> used to be in my real estate company. i said, what do you know about politics? she said, absolutely nothing. i said, congratulations, you're into the world of politics, right? >> reporter: the departure adding to the chaos, sources describing sinking morale amid staffers issue and amid that turmo turmoil, john kelly cracked a joke in the white house about his job. >> one of the great honors of my living being the secretary of homeland security, but i did something wrong, and god punished me, i guess, i don't know. >> reporter: kelly's crackdown on security clearances leads to the laws of top secret clearance for trump's son-in-law, jared kushner, as well as dozens of other officials. the move added to tensions in the west wing and raised questions for those outside the white house about kushner's role. >> shouldn't have been there to
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begin with, especially with the portfolio that he had. what i worry about right now in the white house is the reinvolving door spinning like a top. >> jared's still a valued member of the administration and will continue to focus on the work he's been doing. >> reporter: he's facing fresh scrutiny over a report in the "new york times" that his family business received $500 million in loans from companies whose executives he met with in the white house. a spokesman tells cnn he's met with hundreds of business people, but no role in the family's company since joining the government. although he stepped down as chief executive of the company, he retains a stake in many kushner company holdings according to the financial disclosure. a spokesman said he's had no role since joining the government, and sanders said in the press briefing today that the president does not want to fire jared and will continue in his current role, but sanders' answer on attorney general jeff
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sessions was far from certain, jake, in response to a question about whether the president wants to get rid of sessions, she'd only say not that i know of. jake? >> not that i know of, pamela brown, thank you. my panel joining me now. so much to discuss! let's start with the idea of jared in his official capacity in the white house meeting with individuals, ceos, and loans coming either immediately before or after those meetings. this is why people, even if it's completely innocent, this is why people sell, divest, get rid of their financial holdings before they go into the white house so that there are not questions. >> yeah. this is precisely why. this is just another addition to a string of stories that question his ability to be able to work in the west wing and whether or not he has outside jen su ventures complicated his role, and the press secretary today in the briefing referred questions about this to his personal attorney, abby lowell, which
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blows my mind. this is a senior adviser to the president meeting with the executives in the white house, and his family's real estate company is benefitting from it to the tune of millions of dollars in loans, and the press secretary can't answer questions. he's a white house employee. he doesn't take a paycheck, but he certainly flies around on taxpayer funded airlines and benefits from the likes of working in this very high ranking position in the white house, and the white house press secretary i can't answer questions on this. referring it to his outside attorney, which just is striking. >> odd. and, josh, there is a national security component to this. the "washington post" reported yesterday according to individuals said to have seen intelligence reports, there's individuals in at least four countries, china, uae, israel, and mexico, who believe, who have expressed belief they could manipulate kushner based on financial problems that his companies are having, his naivety and web of financial
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holdings. again, we don't know that that's happened, but this is why people sell off their stuff before getting into these powerful position. >> you hit the nail on the head. that's why the process is in place for most people who become staff or any sort of senior administration or even congressional ly want to divest yourself of any appearance of conflict. they put themselves and the administration in a difficult spot. you have two fthings, loans and meetings. i've met josh harris, i find it hard to believe he'd put a company he basically put in jeopardy for a white house job as suggested, it did not happen. we have an appearance problem here, that, obviously, the white house needs to deal with, and jared needs to deal with. >> and what seems to be going on here -- i mean, just boggles the mind for people following politics. jimmy carter had to sell his peanut farm, his peanut farm before becoming president. >> right. >> the idea that the rules don't
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apply. >> my, how times change. talk about guilt by association, well, this is influence by association. even if he's not running the day-to-day, there is a connection between what these bankers have done to give his family loans and his influence, and the white house, and i'm not -- if he cared about this administration and country, the best thing to do is to, you know, go beyond -- just put away the appearance of impropriety and just leave. >> this all comes, of course, in the midst of a ton of turbulence. hope hicks, latest member of the west wing to head to the door. this is a photograph, the swearing in of senior saf after the inauguration. look at the names who have disappeared. amarosa, walsh, flynn, bannon, and others there we can't see. is this week, i mean, i know it's been chaotic, but this is the first white house you've covered, so i have to say, i'm
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not patronizing, but it's normally not like this. >> bar is set high. >> it's normally not this crazy, but is this week particularly crazy? >> certainly. there's certainly that feeling in the white house, even among white house staffers. they texted me about the jared story saying i can't believe this. this is really ludicrous. it's not just -- this is not just a normal week. that's a running joke around the white house press, that this week is insane, but this week is a flurry of stories. hope hicks of a big significant story yesterday taking people by surprise, not just those of us who cover the white house, by people inside the white house. the very senior staffers very surprised. though they knew she was contemplating leaving at some point, no one imagined she would be there forever. a lot of staffers don't imagine they'll be there for forever, but it was still veryings very surprising, and what's going to be interesting to see is how it affects the president day-to-day. he can lose staffers like spicer and others and doesn't affect him on a daily level, but hope
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hicks is someone who didn't even leave the west wing on a daily basis because the president could summon her any moment from the oval office with a hey, hope, get in here, that talk about what was on his mind. it will affect him from all the stories we had this week. >> listen to cnn this morning about the culture inside the white house. >> i think it's the chief of staff. i think there's a culture of fear inside the white house, people are afraid to talk to each other. morale's terrible, and the reason why is the rule by fear and intimidation does not work in a civilian environment. >> i predict more departures. >> said the bloomberg news, quote, does the president want to lose everyone because of general jack ass? a reference to general kelly, his words, not mine, and we have to point out general kelly fired scaramucci, what do you think about that?
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he's back in it. >> i think he has absolutely no idea what he's talking about in terms of fitness general kelly may or may not have with respect to being chief of staff there. clearly -- that's part of the reason why he's showing up because he doesn't have access to this administration, so he's irritated about it. look, personnel issues are real and difficult, and you mentioned in particular with hope, she was very, very close to the president, one of the few people with the capability of influencing him on a day-to-day basis, and that's difficult for any principal or president to take. no staff is totally irreplaceable, but it will take work. >> stick around, what hicks said that caught the attention of robert m urueller. don't go anywhere. >> "the lead" by jake tapper brought to you by progressive, drivers who switch to progressive save an average of $620. rodney -- mastermind of discounts like safe driver, paperless. the list goes on.
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so they created the commander in chief to protect us from enemy attack. the justice department just indicted 13 russians for sabotaging our elections. an electronic attack on america that the chief investigator called "warfare". so what did this president do? nothing. and is he doing anything to prevent a future attack? the head of the fbi says no. this president has failed his most important responsibility- protecting our country. the first question is: why? what is in his and his family's business dealings with russia that he is so determined to hide, that he'd betray our country? and the second question is: why is he still president? join us today. we have to do something.
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we're back with the politics lead, new details about expanding russian investigation.
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special counsel mueller looks at whether president trump obstructed justice to oust jeff sessions over the summer, according to a new report in the "washington post" and comes as cnn learns mueller is asking witnesses about denials made by outgoing communications director hope hicks. cnn's jessica snider joining me now, centering around hicks claiming there was no known contacts between the trump campaign and any russians. >> comments made two days after the election. it was hope hicks in our role with the transition at that time where she told the "new york times" no one on the came pain had met with any foreign eventy. as we know, numerous people associated with the campaign met with russian officials and nationals throughout the campaign, so now hope hicks' comments are getting a closer look by the special counsel. tonight, hope hicks may be on the way out of the white house, but still under scrutiny in the special counsel's russian investigation. >> it's not ending any time soon. that's one thing we know for
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certain. >> reporter: two days after the 2016 election, hicks told the "new york times" no one on the campaign had any contact with russian officials. she said, question are not aware of any campaign representatives that were in touch with any foreign entities before yesterday when mr. trump spoke with many world leaders. an aide says mueller's team asked about this comment and interviews specifically if it was accurate, given the numerous contacts with russians that have come to light and whether hicks was aware of the contacts when making that denial. the list of russian meetings that took place in the campaign and doisclosed includes that russian trump tower meeting, attended by donald trump, jr. paul, and jared, and sessions meeting with the republican national convention in july 2016 when sessions was still a senator, but a top surrogate of the trump campaign. trump campaign advisers meeting at the rnc and aadditional
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sessions meeting in the senate office in 2016, and george's series of meetings, phone calls, and e-mails with russians and people connected to the kremlin in the campaign. hicks denied knowing about the trump tower meeting in the house intelligence interview this week, according to a source. meanwhile, "washington post" says mueller's team is investigating the period of time last summer when the president seemed determined to fire attorney general jeff sessions. the president livid at sessions for rescuing himself from the russian investigation repeatedly unleashes furry on him at twitter. legal expert ps ss say it could into obstruction of justice into the russian probe. >> if venting is towards a corrupt purpose towards eliminating an investigator, firing an attorney general, sending out a false narrative, that speaks to corruption of intent, and that is what under mueller's inquiry. >> reporter: this questions has
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gone on the past few months. mueller's team asked witnesses about the president's private comments about the attorney general and president's state of mind in late july and early august of last year when the president, of course, furiously belittled jeff sessions on twitter, and, of course, jake, it's the exact same belittling we saw over twitter yesterday when jeff sessions did push back in that statement. >> he did. all right. jessica, thank you so much. spent five hours with hope hicks, what's the next guest think? stay with us. your brain changes as you get older. but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredient originally discovered... in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. the name to remember.
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congressman of illinois. sources say during that meeting, during those questions, she said, quote, white lies on behalf of the president, refusing to answer questions about the time inside the white house. i know you were there for about five hours of the nine-hour testimony. was she asked about that denial she made? >> oh, i think the nine hours she got asked about everything, including that. what's most disturbing is the fact that she was not able to answer because of the gag order, questions involving the most critical time in her involvement with the trump associates. >> yesterday, she announced she's leaving the white house in the coming weeks. did you have any inkling this was coming? do you think it has something to do with the russian investigation? >> no inkling at all. i thought she was calm, composed, extraordinarily well-prepared. i heard rumblings the president said something about, how could you be so stupid?
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she was any but stupid. she was extraordinarily ready for that interview yesterday, and aside from the fact she couldn't talk about certain things and time frames because of the gag order, you know, i had a hard time believing that she was not forthcoming about the other periods. >> in terms of the comments made about telling white lies on behalf of the president, that's, obviously, a big difference between telling somebody on the phone he's in a meeting, he can't talk to you, which is a white lie nobody would object to, and lying to the public, lying to a reporter about something of consequence. did she mean one or the other in particular? >> you know, it's hard to tell. if we're not allowed to push a witness to answer questions about all time frames, it's extraordinarily difficult to know. you know, it's deep within her own mind what she really meant, how much she was willing to protect the president, and it's clear to me in watching witnesses, perhaps now over 60 and over a year's period, those
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close to the president were willing to do about anything to defend him, so i suppose if we're lucky, we'll get her back under subpeona under this time frame to learn more, but right now, we've been substantialed and stymied on this investigation because my republican friends are willing to let the white house install a gag order on our key witnesses. >> speaking of your republican friends, take a listen to your colleague, republican congressman on the house intelligence committee also. >> we need to end this investigation. it's been going on for a year. we've interviewed scores of witnesses, and now we've gotten to the point now where we are literally bringing people in for nine hours just so that the democrats can leak to the press something as ridiculous as white lies. >> how do you respond, sir? >> yeah. i mean, putting aside yesterday's testimony, because in the grand scheme of things, it's not that critical, we have not even touched on money
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laundering, right? deutsche bank was fined $610 million for helping the russians launder money, and who was the trump financial world financing? trump associates. came from deutsche bank. we have not talk about peter smith. we've let people like sessions, trump jr., bannon not answer critical questions, so, sure, it's taken a year, a lot because we've wasted time on the memo, and what the white house dictate how we move forward on the investigation. if they are serious about this, let mr. nunes stand aside. i don't think it's on mr. rooney, but on the speaker of the house for letting them do this, complicit as anyone in stalling this investigation and, frankly, obstructing it. >> the white house has not implemented the sanctions that congress overwhelmingly passed against russia for election interference, do you think that that is relevant to the russian
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investigation? >> it's extraordinary that no one in the white house -- no one in the majority, in the house and senate, hasn't spoken out about this. in any other law passed overwhelmingly that the executive branch says we're not going to enforce this is beyond comprehension. the fact of the matter is the white house has said, and the president has said, there's nothing to this, but he certainly is acting when he does this, when he doesn't implement this law, like the russians have something on him. >> congressman, thank you so much for the time, appreciate it, sir. >> thank you. did the attorney general just double dog dare president trump to fire him? how much more can trump's feud with sessions escalate? that's next. to severe crohn's disease. then i realized something was missing... me. my symptoms were keeping me from being there. so, i talked to my doctor and learned humira is for people
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that's the old cartoon character, "mr. magoo," and from the washington post, the nickname president trump gave to his attorney general. stories say behind the scenes, president trump is fuming and indignant after attorney general sessions respond to the president's twitter attack with acts of defiance, daring the president to fire him in a statement he put out defending priorities, and sessions was seen dining in the company of rosenstein in the justice official supervising the russian probe after sessions rekscued himself. this caused staffers to give his boss a bullet proof vest as a tongue in cheek gag gift. our panel is back with me. mr. magoo, that's not a nice thing to say about the attorney general. >> it's not. >> you can get rid of him. >> yeah, but he'd risk more if te did, a he did. good for ag sessions to stand up. he was the first republican senator to endorse him, and this is how he repays him?
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it was one thing to be disappointed in somebody who works for you, but another thing to malign them, and makel publi. have those conversations behind closed doors, not in tweets to the open world. >> his former colleague in the senate, richard shelby, saying if he was sessions, he would not stand for such treatment. take a listen. >> president saying you don't have confidence in me, so that is jeff's challenge right now, and what he wants to do and how he does it, and he's a good man, and he's going through a lot. he's got a lot of challenges. >> so a problem with the audio there, but senator shelby saying he would not stand for it. what do you think? >> i think it's hard to overstate just how badly broken the relationship between donald trump and jeff sessions is to where the president publicly blasts him all the time, and sessions after calling him weak,
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very weak, regretted picking him, disappointed in him timely pushed back on that, and that statement, which was not that forceful, but pointed and directed at the president. the president did not like that statement, but it just is very telling to see what the relationship is like between these two men, and this has been going on for nearly a year now. last march jeff sessions rescued himself from overseeing the russian investigation, which is what infuriated the president and took over his mind. he's never gotten over it. publicly may not mention it for a few weeks or not on his mind, but comes back to this recusal, and it's just hard to overstate just how much these men dislike each other. when in meetings together at the white house as they were just two weeks ago welcoming medal of valor recipients in the oval office taking photos with him, jeff sessions and donald trump barely interacted. it's just hard to overstate how badly broken the relationship is, but the question is, the next question is, where does it go from here, and no one knows. the white house staffers don't
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understand why the president wants to fire him, if he's this tired of hymn, people at the doj don't think that jeff sessions is going to quit any time soon. he seems to be digging his heels in, so we'll continue criticizing each other, but nothing ever said directly. >> the sanders' clip we showed there accidently, it was a reporter saying does the president want to get rid of the attorney general, and sanders says, not that i know of. what is that? >> probably honest answer. >> do you want to get rid of your babysitter? not that i know of. it's an honest answer, fine. well, it's not, because she probably has some idea. she knows something, but more importantly, that's not what you say about your attorney general. you say, no, i mean, the appropriate thing you should say is, no, he has complete confidence in the president, or you get rid of him. >> yeah, look, the president will never see it this way, but the reality is the attorney general is protecting him from himself. the only way that they are truly
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beyond the russian investigation is if the department of justice functions independently from the west wing, make an independent valuation based on facts, and provide recommendations that either cleared his name and clear the administration or not. ed the idea this is directed or influenced by the west wing is how we found ourselves in this problem in the first place. look, the president, again, is not going to see it this way, but what attorney general sessions did yesterday by pushing back is the absolute best thing he could do for this administration. >> it's why you have nina turner, new president of the jeff sessions fan club, which -- >> just on the issue of hyim standing up for himself. >> poignant one because everything the president has been mad at him for doing is him being ethical. him rescuing himself. him saying, no, i have the inspector general look into this. >> doing things the proper way.
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>> exactly. >> not the trump way, which is do how i say do it, when i say do it, forget the consequences, just do what i say, and sessions standing up for himself, you know his policies, i don't agree with at all, but good for the ag for standing up. >> one other interesting thing, jerry jr., a big supporter of the president's, piled on on twitter and wrote this after the president bad mouthed sessions. he wrote, i couldn't agree more, u.s. attorney general sessions must be part of the bush mccain romney establishment and probably supported real donald trump to hide who rereally is or could just be a coward. what? >> i don't often do a double take on twitter, but i read that and i was, like, what? >> is this a parody? >> it was laughable. i mean, that's, like, you know, it takes a lot for people in washington to defend someone like jeff sessions, but that
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tweet had everyone being, like, what are you talking about? >> you know, what do you think? what goes through your mind as you're very serious conservative, part of the c conservative in the town, and when you see these conspiracy theories, only supported donald trump to hide -- what's that even mean? how would that work? >> that's a really good question, how would that work? i felt like a missed a chapter, right? like, falwell? we went here? like infowars, right? i don't know. clearly, it's out of place. i think that that is the sentiment that's not shared widely anywhere. >> and jeff sessions is one of the few people in the president's cabinet that's actually carrying out the agenda he said he was going to enact if he got into the white house. that is where, saying he was hiding who he really is, jeff sessions is doing exactly what we thought he would do if he became attorney general as the attorney general. >> the statements you referred
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to, that sessions put out, that is -- pointed, if you speak washingtonese, as long as i'm the attorney general, i will continue to discharge my duties with integrity and honor and this department will continue to do its work in a fair and impartial manner according to the law and constitution. he says there, as long as i'm attorney general, meaning, go ahead, fire me, big boy, if you want to, i'm going to do the ethical thing. >> that's right. >> he's saying this is how i roll, mr. president, come on, bring it, saying bring it to the president. that's what he's saying. >> like a dare to fire him. >> yeah, i mean, look, he's been down this road so many times over the last year and a half. how else does he handle it? he's turned the other cheek. he's provided information that would be counter to what the president claims. he's handled it in every way he can, now to the point where he's saying, this is the way i roll. >> how i roll. >> a dare to fire him because it's clear from the president's tweets and many, many criticisms of jeff sessions that he wants him to quit. >> oh, yeah. >> he doesn't want to fire him.
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sessions remaining on and not quitting is essentially a dare. >> defiant in itself, and your point, josh, a great one, he's protecting him from himself. >> absolutely. and a number of senators and congressmen on the hill are begging him to stay. >> thank you, stick around. how hard is it to take guns from people who are not supposed to have them? a rare look how one state is trying to tackle the problem. stick around. woah! (laughter) hahaha-aaaahhhh! gorilla glue. of course. gorilla glue expands into the materials to form an incredibly strong bond. for the toughest jobs on planet earth. when it comes to hibernating, nobody does it better. he also loves swiping picnic baskets. hee, hee, hee yoooogiiiiiii!! but when it comes to mortgages, he's less confident. here, yogi. thank you boo boo. fortunately, there's rocket mortgage hmmm. hey. by quicken loans. it's simple, so he can understand the details and get approved in as few as eight minutes.
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we have one to two fires a day and when you respond together and you put your lives on the line, you do have to surround yourself with experts. and for us the expert in gas and electric is pg&e. we run about 2,500/2,800 fire calls a year and on almost every one of those calls pg&e is responding to that call as well. and so when we show up to a fire and pg&e shows up with us it makes a tremendous team during a moment of crisis. i rely on them, the firefighters in this department rely on them, and so we have to practice safety everyday. utilizing pg&e's talent and expertise in that area
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trains our firefighters on the gas or electric aspect of a fire and when we have an emergency situation we are going to be much more skilled and prepared to mitigate that emergency for all concerned. the things we do every single day that puts ourselves in harm's way, and to have a partner that is so skilled at what they do is indispensable, and i couldn't ask for a better partner. s. debt pias the talk of guns, they are not bringing up gun legislation last week, outlining
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gun legislation, the president would support, expected sometime this week, one of the issues being discussed among lay makers is the question of how to keep guns out of the hands of people barred from having them. it's a complicated one of the it's a matter of priorities when it comes to the resources of stretched thin law enforcement. california says it's the only state that has a law to take firearms away from felons. cnn rode along with authorities as they tried to enforce it. >> reporter: more than 6,000 rounds of ammunition. three semiautomatic weapons, a shotgun, and a pistol. >> one of the assault weapons fixed with a bump stock. >> reporter: like used in las veg vegas, turning guns into automatic weapons were ban in california in 1990. all together, an arsenal 57-year-old timothy pope is not allowed to have. >> i forgot they were even here, really. >> reporter: previously convicted of possessing a
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destructive device, a felony. do you remember being notified told you couldn't have guns anymore? >> yes. in the court. >> reporter: how do you feel now? >> stupid. >> reporter: this bust at the end of the daily mission for the california department of justice agents, who door knock targeted homes in search of weapons in the wrong hands. >> only in california do we have a law that permits us to seize these weapons. >> reporter: it's the only system of its kind in the nation. the arm prohibited person system flags those who previously registered firearms, but were later deemed unfit to own a gun after a felony conviction, violent misdemeanor, domestic violence restraining order, or found to be mentally unstable. using the data, agents visit homes, now he likely faces a new set of felony charges like the possession of so-called ghost guns, home made weapons free of serial numbers used to track
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guns. >> can you imagine if these guns got in the wrong hands through a burglary? >> reporter: california's department of justice recovered 18,000 firearms since the program began. more than 10,000 people are on the list statewide. as the country is, again, embroiled in the gun control debate, some point out that this program would not have caught mass shooters in california. there are people out there who say with all the shootings we have seen across the country, that none of this, that the apps program would not have stopped that. what do you say to that? >> i say it's impossible for us to measure the success of this operation because nobody knows whether or not one of the guns that we seize would have been the next mass shooting. >> reporter: another concern for second amendment advocates? how well the data base is kept up to date. >> the people that are prohibited are appropriately notified and given ample opportunity to get rid of the firearms and ammunitions so that they are not in further violation of the law. >> reporter: after a night like this, these officers believe
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this is a good place to start, and that other states should follow california's lead. cnn, los angeles. a lot to talk about, bravely in the last few weeks, one of the bravest people i've ever met. stay with us. you might take something for your heart... or joints. but do you take something for your brain. with an ingredient originally found in jellyfish, prevagen is the number one selling brain-health supplement in drug stores nationwide. prevagen. the name to remember. ii need my blood osugar to stay iin control.. i need to cut my a1c. weekends are my time. s
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president trump roms out a plan to deal with the opioid crisis today, and threat muched suing the companies, and highlighted the need for harsher punishment for drug dealers. some countries have a very, very tough penalty, the ultimate penalty, and, by the way, they
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have much less of a drug problem than we do. so we're going to have to be very strong on penalties. >> joining me now is former staff sergeant and medal of honor recipient, here lobbying on capitol hill for fellow veterans addicted to opioids. good to see you. people who watched the show know and heard your story before. if you were in the room with president trump today to talk opioid, what do you tell people on capitol hill? >> the message we're bringing this go-around in d.c. is the patriot project is a non-profit organization in canton, ohio for free chiropractic care for veterans. by the time you get to the point to get a prescription for opioid, you could have had an adjustment, so many options and other options other than just fill that prescription, and in the military, i mean, a lot of injuries we suffered were, you know, muscular and skeletal, and stuff that a quick adjustment could have got you back up and
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going other than here's 800 milligrams of something. >> you think it's overprescription? >> it is. it's a blank, let's go to the quick fix and get you out there, but if we limit what we're going to do, there's always options out there, and not saying chiropractic care helps everybody, but what i've been through and what i've been adjusted with, with this doctor's been exposing me to was world changing. comes at a price without the side effects. >> yeah, and this statistics are haunting on opioid use for veterans. recent study from the va found patients were twice as likely to overdose and die from opioids than the rest of the population. we know there's a huge problem with the population as a whole. this is a serious problem for everyon everyone, but else the veterans' community. do you talk to fellow service members and veterans who experienced this problem? >> yeah, i mean, it keeps coming up that, you know, when you're in the service, it's about kind
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of getting back into action. it is the mentality and culture i had when i was in, here's pills, get back to work. where if we can incorporate other options, chiropractic medicine, acupuncture, so many things out there. that's kind of the thing we're fighting up on capitol hill is to get legislation passed to streamline and get chiropractors into the va. that would help reduce the amount of prescriptions handed out, to take away that chronic pain now just numbed. a great example is, like, whenever you get your prescription filled, it's like your fire alarm's going off in the house. well, you are just taking out the battery. the alarm's going off, there's still a problem. get to the root it of rather than covering up the symptoms. >> what is the biggest problem, other than opioid addiction, obviously, a big one and why you are here today, but what is the b biggest problem veterans have? >> battle of attrition through the va and the process. you want to see it more streamlined. guys go in to get help for
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something, and the red tape, and the constant struggle, and i just applaud -- there's so many great people in the va doing so many great things, but we got to streamline it a little faster and better, continue to focus on promises made to the veterans, given a blank check with everything to include their life for this country. >> very quickly, if you could, we heard a lot of people talking about how brave they would have been had they been outside stoneman douglas high school in parkland, florida. you are somebody who actually has had the misfortune as one of your fellow troops, we'll put it, of having that challenge there, and you met it. you're a medal of hop nnor recipient. what do you say when you hear that? >> it's one of those -- i never look to go be a hero. i still don't feel like i've been a hero. i was just someone doing a job. until you are put in that experience, that situation, it's all about timing, all faced with
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something in our lives, but to hear them say in hindsight, oh, yeah, i would have ran in there and done this, that, and the other, well, until you do it, you know, stop talking about it. >> always an honor to have you here and honor to know you. thank you so much for being here. appreciate it. that's all for the the lead, we go to the situation room now with wolf blitzer, thanks for watching. ♪ happening now, breaking news, tanking the market, president trump sends stock markets into a tail spin. the dow dropping more than 400 points as its sudden announcements of import tariffs has wall street deeply worried about a trade war and infuriates fellow republicans. is that another sign of white house chaos? asking about hope. she's leaving the white house. hope hicks has been one of the president's closest confidants, and now special counsel mueller wants to know what hope hicks knows about the trump campaign's contacts with russia. not that i know of.