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cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. moments from now the president will lead a signing ceremony for his controversial tariffs on steel and aluminum hours after his former campaign chairman paul manafort pled not guilty to bank fraud and tax crimes. his first campaign manager corey lewandowski just testified before the house intelligence committee. we heard from adam schiff about what lewandowski would and would not answer before the committee. >> that's for them to decide. after 12 hours i think i've done enough. >> what was it like in the room? >> cold. >> cold in temperature or -- gl taxpayers have to put the heat on in there. >> have you answered all the questions? >> 12 hours, what's more to say? >> he was essentially saying that he did -- lewandowski at
least answered all relevant questions. gloria borger just sat down next to me, cnn chief political analyst to talk about all these threats today beginning with -- good to see you. >> hi. >> beginning with this "new york times" report that the president talked to two people after they were interviewed by special counsel robert mueller. specifically, former white house chief of staff reince priebus and don mcgahn. cnn has now learned that the chief of staff here, john kelly, had a conversation with the president, warning him to be careful talking to people wrapped up in this whole investigation. a white house official says it's pretty clear that kelly admonishes him constantly and he's not the only one. >> that's true. he's not the only one. >> there's a line, mr. president. >> right. his lawyers, i know, from my own reporting, tell him constantly that you need to distance yourself. they've had some success, by the way. i will tell you, in getting him not to tweet about bob mueller. you didn't see him tweeting
about sam nunberg earlier this week. >> true. >> i'm sure he had itchy fingers but he didn't want to do it. they kind of hold him back. they were unhappy when, at one point, he said he felt vindicated. do you remember that? and so they have been trying. now, you can't succeed all the time, particularly when it's not about twitter, when it's just about the president having a conversations with people. i mean, he is being told leave that to your lawyers. that's what your lawyers do. but they don't always succeed. and it's a frustration. >> let's talk about -- speaking of frustrations, mad dashes and scrambles around the white house over this whole tariffs thing. it was a mad scramble to get this whole event happening in half an hour, officially being labeled a signing. we didn't know that until a whole heck of a lot long ago. i want you to listen to the president talk about a while ago. no mention earlier of a signing. >> we have a very big meeting at
3:30. i call it an economic meeting. something we have to do to protect our steel, our aluminum and our country. >> staffers called the rush to come up with policy absurd. i know this was a campaign promise but what's the motivation here? >> it's hard to know, to get into the president's head but one of them is special election in pennsylvania. >> next tuesday. >> he promised this to his base and that it will help him and that he feel that they have gotten a raw deal here by nafta and he wants to help steelworkers. i think this is something he wanted to deliver on. as you know, people have been trying to talk him out of it. gary cohn quit over it. >> you think he's willing to risk a trade war by holding -- >> he ran on this and he
believes he has to deliver a promise. and like he believed he ran on cutting tacks and has to live up to that promise. he ran on repealing obamacare and that didn't work out so well. on his to-do list, this was one of his things but people inside the white house thought we can moderate this, show him the full story here and try to talk him out of it. clearly, gary cohn felt he was unable to do it and, therefore, it was untenable for him to continue in this position. >> isn't this rollout botched? >> it's not a rollout. it's kind of a shoveout, i would say. normally in the white houses i've covered and i'm familiar with, when you're doing something on trade that is so monumental, you might have a trade czar in charge of it, months and months of study, coordination with allies. you'll have people in from all
over the country about how this asks not only the rust belt by agribusiness and all the rest. you would do that and come up with a list and it would be debated and then the president would finally make his decision. in this white house it's the opposite. i think the president decided where he wants to go and everybody else has to workup to that. it's completely opposite from what we normally see. this is the trump white house. everything seems to be like that. >> maybe that's what he wants people to be talking about instead of this next thing i'm going to ask you about, stormy daniels. we saw what sarah sanders said yes. we know she's now officially suing the president over this. sarah sanders yesterday revealing the president had won this arbitration against her. people heard arbitration and they're like what is she talking about? reporting today is that trump was livid with sarah sanders, a source telling jim acosta.
quote, sarah gave the stormy daniels storyline steroids yesterday. would you agree? >> yes, i would. what she did is drew the line between david dennison and donald trump. >> officially linked. >> before this, nobody was much reading into the arbitration until she mentioned it and said the president won. oh, the president won, okay. now by doing that, in an effort to try to say this is over, asked and answered, president has said it's not true, she opened up a pandora's box here. >> she did. >> flora, thank you very much. >> sure. >> my next guest actually interviewed the porn star at length back in 2011. what she revealed about donald trump during that interview that we can talk about on television. that is next. also moments from now, president trump to make that announcement on trade and tariffs, the same
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joining me now, jordy libby mcgraw, who interviewed stormy daniels a couple of years ago. this is all sort of surreal? >> who knew an interview i did six years ago would become a presidential scandal? >> such a thing. before we get into the details, everyone, so they understand, this whole thing happened, and we'll get into that, in 2007. you talked to stormy on the phone in 2011. >> correct. >> how did this interview come to you? why did she want to talk? >> honestly at the time i don't remember exactly how all the pieces came together. this was so long ago. i was able to get on the phone with her. i'm sure we had details beforehand that made us interested in the story. i got on the phone, got all the details that have now come out. i did my due diligence as a reporter, corroborated with other sources, took a lie-detector test. >> she passed a polygraph test. >> we had no reason not to
believe her. >> that's what i wanted to establish before we got into this whole conversation. lake tahoe. fancy golf tournament, 2007. lots of celebrities. lots of people are there, including stormy daniels and donald trump. >> correct. >> what happened that we can discuss on television? i'm serious. >> no, i know. the details are pretty interesting, to say the least. they met at this golf tournament. her company had kind of like a suite and donald trump stopped by to check out some of the porn stars that were there on site. he invited her back to his hotel room later that evening and she took him up on the offer. she actually said to me she thought she was getting dressed up to go out to dinner. when she got to the hotel room, lo and behold it was just a dinner in their hotel room, just the two of them and what transpired was obviously this alleged affair and there were some other fun, quirky details that came out of their time together. and then after that, they
continue continued a casual relationship. it wasn't like it was a big love affair or anything like that. >> fast forward from lake tahoe. she goes to beverly hills, to trump's bungalow. her boyfriend drives her. >> correct. to the bungalow and then what? >> same scenario. she didn't tell me about them getting intimate in that particular case. they had gotten intimate at the lake tahoe hotel room. this was another kind of weird encounter with him. and i think she was hoping to probably get on celebrity apprentice and a business transaction almost. >> so, she was seeking fame, according to stormy daniels. >> yes. >> was that her reasoning behind sleeping with him, according to her, having this affair, perhaps wanting it to continue? >> she said to me she was never a fan of donald trump but he was
certainly an interesting guy and a good person to know in the industry. did he have a reality show. and i think she wanted to see how far she could take it. >> we know she and her team file this had lawsuit against donald trump and there are texts and photos and videos, she and her team allege. did she ever mention to you that she took any while they were together? >> she didn't mention text messages to me. there is that famous photo of them together from the lake tahoe golf event which we published recently. what she did tell me is that she really talked to him a lot on the phone. she didn't have a direct cell phone number. she would call his bodyguard, keith, and he would put her in touch with him. and she also had a direct line to his office, and donald trump had given her his secretary's phone number.
so, she would call the office and either be put right through or he would call her back in ten minutes or so. >> was she aware that donald trump was a married man with a 4-month-old baby? >> she was aware that he was a married man. bring ask her specifically about the child. she said she did know he was married and she didn't really feel all that guilty about it. >> and melania? >> didn't mention her at all. >> but did mention his daughter? >> yes, saying that stormy looked like her and her minded him a lot of her. >> okay. last question, why did "in touch" not publish your interview at the time? >> you have to remember, this is back in 2011 when donald trump was a reality star, new york businessman. he wasn't the president of the united states. so, i'm not sure why the story was killed. it was an editorial decision. john gosselin was big news at
the time. i'm sure if he ran as president we would dig up old stories on him, too. i flagged this to a girl that works at the magazine, she brought it to the editorial director and here we are, blew the lid off the whole story. >> details in your piece, jordi, thank you very much. we will be bringing you president trump's controversial announcement on tariffs and trade that has him breaking with people in his party and the man pushing this white house policy, economic adviser named peter navarro, talked to him in 2016 before the election. what he revealed to me then about donald trump's economic game plan. we'll pull the tape. also chief of staff john kelly warning the president about talking to witnesses in the robert mueller investigation. hear who the president tried to talk to, coming up. so, that goal you've been saving for,
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that's more speed than at&t's comparable bundle, for less. call today. near minutes from now the president is expected to sign new tariffs on steel and aluminum. there's been a mad scramble to make this all happen today. i want to play what the president said earlier about this in his cabinet meeting. >> 10 to 25 initially. i'll have a right to go up or down, depending on the country and i'll have a right to drop out countries or add countries. we just want fairness. because we have not been treated fairly by other countries. >> death by china co-author who
he co-wrote with trump's adviser. let me begin with you and what we're about to see in the next couple of minutes at the white house. this whole scramble. president's tweet. policy. get the cameras in the room. doesn't this whole rushed process undercut what the president is genuinely trying to achieve? >> i don't think so at all. >> he listened to a lot of other voice voices. >> how is being rushed into a trade policy a smart thing? >> i don't think we're being rushed into this. i've been advocating this for
many years. trump has been talking to wilbur ross and other folks who know what's going on in this arena. this is not a rushed policy. the announcement comes out and everybody seems to be surprised. i don't see why they would be. it's not as if he didn't discuss these things in his campaign and say give me tariffs in the past. >> you're right, it was absolutely a campaign promise. some of his staffers would disagree. let me move on. austin, to you. before the election, i talked to peter navarro, largely responsible for pushing this tariff plan and who also happened to be on with us that day. >> what donald trump has proposed is a synergistic plan of trade policy, reform and these things all work together s synergistieically like they did in the '80s with ronald reagan. we need to get back to good trade policies. >> there you were in the box as well.
navarr o there in 2016 was also making the argument that these tariffs are needed to protect national security buchlt if the president leaves mexico and canada out, doesn't that undermine the whole argument? >> look, this is a bad policy. let's start with that. this is going to raise the price of steel. a report just came out today, analysis of the auto industry, huge user of steel, will cost 45,000 auto jobs because they'll have to pay more for their materials. you see that down the line. now the rationale that this should be base d on national security is obviously disproven by the president's own words. you saw him right there in his announcement saying i reserve the right to raise the rate or lower the rate on whoever i want because i just want to be treated fairly. that negotiating tactic that this will be used because we want to get them to change their tariff rates that's not a national security rationale.
i don't think the president understands that by making announcements like that, or his twitter announcements, he's undermining his legal authority of whether he's allowed to do this. the only reason he would be allowed to move unilaterally like this was because in a law from the 1960s it gave the president a right if there was a threat to national security. putting tariffs on our nato allies in south korea and/or canada and mexico is not enhancing our national security. it's undermining our national security. >> greg, do you want to respond to that? >> absolutely. in order to have national security we have to have a steel and aluminum industry. the chinese government, and don't let anybody mistake this, these are state-owned enterprises and companyies owne closely to the communist party.
u.s. companies can't afford to invest in themselves and keep up with their capacity. the chinese know this. if we're getting our steel from friends in korea, that would be great except for the fact that you can't defend those logistical supply lines across the specific with the navy that the chinese is building up to make sure that we can't. we have to have a domestic capacity. the only way to deal with that is to protect our domestic production from this glut that has driven down dploebl prices. it doesn't matter whether we get steel from china or oil from saudi arabia. when they're gluting the market they can put your companies out of business. the chinese communist party has been planning all along. >> austin? >> look, we're talking about getting steel from canada. there's a highway from canada to the united states. two-thirds of the steel we use in the united states already comes from the united states. and we can't get past the fact
that this is going to destroy more manufacturing jobs than it creates. even in the steel industry. the cost per jobs saved is well over $1.5 million per job. this is a bad policy. it was arrived at by a horrible process that, as best i can tell, involved donald trump waking up, walking out into a press conference and at the end of the press conference say by the way i think i'm going to put tariffs on foreign steel. all our allies are outraged by it. there's a reason. this a nonsense, non-thought through policy. >> we're about to see the signing. gentlemen, thank you so much. moments from now, president trump will be making that announcement on trade and tariffs. we'll take it. back in a flash.
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coming back up on live pictures here, steve mnuchin, wilbur ross. waiting to see the president here signing this official policy on tariffs on both steel and aluminum. as we wait for him to do this, as we're hearing from some folks in the white house, it has been a scramble. we were talking to greg autry who said this has been a campaign promise. it shouldn't be a surprise. it's been a campaign promise from the president since he ran for office. greg autry is still with me, co-author of the book with trump trade adviser and josh green, cnn and political analyst, author of "devil's bargain" about the nationalist uprising. so, with the two of you here -- greg, just back to you, looking back to -- it was 2002, president george w. bush imposed those tariffs on steel and rolled them back once the
retaliation came. that is the fear of global retaliation with what the president is about to do. why won't that happen this time? >> two things going on here, tariffs that bush did on steel and obama did on solar was targeted at china and failed to realize that these are global commodities, globally set prices and to protect our markets we've got to protect from chinese overcapacity that gets transferred to other countries. secondly, president trump is thinking long term, the same way that our opponents do. we need a president that thinks the same way that the chinese do and cares what happens in five years instead of next quarterly reports or whether the market goes down today or tomorrow. i respect donald trump for not reacting when the market goes down 1 or 2%. >> there's a lot of concern. despite that trump did promise this on the campaign trail there wasn't a signal this was coming.
very abrupt, middle of the night announcement. it wasn't even clear whether there was going to be this ceremony tau today because the legal process hadn't been completed. what i her pr talking to people in the white house, two things brought this about. one, the departure of rob porter, weakening of john kelly, wilbur ross, peter navarro to convince the president to move forward on this. trump, himself, has been frustrated to the news coverage of his administration, wanted to project strength to do something, you know, strong. that is the purpose of these tariffs. i think there's relief on wall street, some relief. it appears there will be carve-outs for allies like canada and mexico. i don't think we can say what the effect of this is going to be. >> also, just staying with you because -- we listened to the president earlier. gary cohn was in this meeting. he was joke he's the globalist and now he's out and the
nationalists who are back. is there something to -- greg, let me ask this of you. diversity of thought. you have the president surrounding himself with those who all agree on this particular issue as nationalists. >> it's interesting. when the president had diversity of thought and there was what people called conflict in meetings, then they complained about that. now they're complaining that everybody in the group is aligned with the president. >> the president says he likes conflict. i'm just saying. >> he said he did actually, earlier. i admire the fact that he's willing to embrace difference of opinion. i'm sure he'll be bringing in new people with differences of opinion and that's refreshing. >> gentlemen, stand by. we are waiting to see the president happening moments from now. quick break. back in a moment. may cause trouble with recall. - learning from him is great... when i can keep up! - anncr: thankfully, prevagen helps your brain and improves memory.
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you own the morning. alive! here is the president shaking hands. we are standing by for this official signing to begin, these tariffs on both steel and aluminum. let's watch. >> thank you very much, everybody. i'm honored to be here with our incredible steel and aluminum workers. and you are truly the backbone of america. you know that. very special people. i've known you and people that are very closely related to you for a long time. you know that? i think it's probably the reason
i'm here. so i want to thank you. i also want to thank secretary mnuchin, ambassador lighthauser, secretary ross, peter navarro, mike pence, our great vice president. they've worked so hard on getting this going and getting it done. and people are starting to realize how important it is. we have to protect and build our steel and aluminum industries while at the same time showing great flexibility and cooperation toward those that are really friends of ours, both on a trade basis and a military basis. a strong steel and aluminum industry are vital to our national security. absolutely vital. steel is steel. you don't have steel, you don't have a country. our industries have been targeted for years and years. decades, in fact, by unfair foreign trade practices, leading
to the shuttered plants and mills. the leg off of millions of workers and the did he say medication of entire communities. and that's going to stop. right? that's going to stop. this is not merely an economic disaster but it's a security disaster. we want to build our ships. we want to build our planes. we want to build our military equipment with steel and aluminum from our country. and nowware finally taking action to correct this long, overdue problem. it's a travesty. today, i'm defending america's national security by placing tar. ffs on foreign imports of steel and aluminum. we will have a 25% tariff on foreign steel and a 10% tariff
on foreign aluminum. when the product comes across our borders. it's a process called dumping. and they dumped more than, at any time, on any nation, anywhere in the world. and it drove our plants out of business. it drove our factories out of business. and we want a lot of steel coming into our country. but we want it to be fair. and we want our workers to be protected. and we want, frankly, our companies to be protected. by contrast, we will not place any new tax on product made in the usa. so, there's no tax if a product is made in the usa. you don't want to pate pai tax? bring your plant to the usa. there's no tax. which we will benefit from the massive tax cuts that we have in place. we have passed the largest tax care plan in the country's history. and that has caused really
tremendous success between that and regul and regulation cuts. we've cut more than any president in history. we're urging all companies to buy american. that's what we want. buy american. the action i'm taking today follow ace nine-month investigation by the department of commerce, secretary ross, documenting a growing crisis in our steel and aluminum production that threatens the security of our nation. and also is bad for us economically and with jobs. the american steel aluminum industry has been ravaged by aggressive foreign trade practices. it's really an assault on our country. it's been an assault. they know better than anybody. other countries have added production capacity that far t
outou outdemand. i've been talking about this a long time, lot longer than my political career. i've been talking about this for many years. for example, it takes china about one month to produce as much steel as they produce in the united states in an entire year. because we've closed down so much capacity. plants closed all over the united states and some plants, i see massive plants from 40 years ago working now in a little corner of the building. we're going to get those buildings open again and producing again. that will be a great thing for our country. and this is only the first stop. aluminum imports now account for more than 90% of the primary american demand over the last two decades, nearly two-thirds
of american raw steel companies have gone out of business. more than one-third of the steel jobs have disappeared. six primary aluminum smelters, which is a big deal, have permanently shut down since just 2012. the actions we're taking today are not a matter of choice. they're a matter of necessity for our security. we're already seeing the national security benefits of this order. yesterday, in anticipation that they would be here today, u.s. steel announced it's reopening a mill in illinois, a big one, and recalling 500 workers immediately. that's going on all over the country. and, by the way, it went on with solar panels, which we did three months ago, and washing machines, where they were dumping washing machines all over our country. and now they're expanding plants to make washing machines.
we've put the tax on. a lot of you were here. skilled trained workforce and steel is a crucial element of america's national security and must be protected. after the signing of this proclamation, essenticentury lo great company, will be investing over $100 million to restart and upgrade their idled military grade, high quality aluminum production, which is also critically important to our national security. that's 150,000 additional tons of aluminum. think of it. this is a closed plant and now they're doing 150,000 tons. additional 300 workers and ultimately many more hired in the great state of kentucky. a package of sometimes $90,000 per worker.
our greatest presidents all understood from washington to lincoln to jackson to teddy roosevelt, that america must have a strong, vibrant, independent manufacturing base. has to have it. president mckinley, who felt very, very strongly about this -- the country was very, very successful. we actually operated out of cash flow, if you can believe it. the protective tariff policy of the republicans, you says, has made the lives of our countrymen sweeter and brighter and brighter and brighter. it is the best for our citizenship and our civilization and opens up a higher and better destiny for our people. many politicians lamented the decline of our industries and many countries announced global excess capacity but nobody took alcohol. all of our politicians saw what
was happening to our country. for 25 years i've been talking about it. talked about japan, china. but the politicians never did anything about it. but now they are. our factories were left to rot and rust. tlivg communities were turned into ghost towns. no longer. those who poured their souls into building this great nation were betrayed. but that betrayal is now over. i'm delivering on a promise i made during the campaign and i've been making it for a good part of my life, if i ever did this. i never really thought i would. i said let's run for president. and look what happened. and part of the reason it happened is you. and my message, having to do with you. and other messages, also. security, military.
the wall, the border. lot of good messages. but this was one of the most important. my most important job is to keep american people safe. we just approved a $700 billion military budget, the largest ever. $716 billion next year. that mean not only safety but it means jobs. it also means steel from our country. america will be open to modifying or removing the tariffs for individual nations as long as we can ensure that their products no longer threaten our security. i've put ambassador lightheizer, great gentleman, in charge of countries that seek an alternative to steel and aluminum tariffs.
we've been treated so badly over the years by other countries. i think, really, we've been treated very badly by our mits admititions, by presidents that represented us that didn't know what they were doing. we lose $800 billion a year on trade every year. $800 billion. it's been going on for a long time. 300 billion, 400 billion, 500 billion. got up to 600 billion. and it keeps going. it's going to start changing. it has to change. we're negotiating now with china. we're in the midst of a big negotiation. i don't know that anything is going to come of it. they have been very helpful. president xi, i have great respect for, lot of respect. but i don't know that anything is going to come of that. we're going to cut down the deficits one way or another. we have a deficit with china of
at least $500 billion. and when you add incident recollectu intellectual property it's much bigger than that. at the same time due to our unique nature with canada and mexico, we're negotiating right now nafta. aspect of the deal, and if we're making the deal on nafta, this figures into the deal, and we won't have the tariffs and canada, mexico. if we don't make the deal on nafta and terminate nafta because they are unable to make a deal fair for the workers and fair for our farmers -- we love our farmers -- and fair for our manufacturers, then we're going to terminate nafta, and we'll start all over again, or we'll just do it a different way, but we'll terminate nafta, and that'll be it, i have a feeling
we're going to make a deal on naf nafta. i said it for a long time. make a deal or we terminate, and if we do, there's no tariffs on canada. there's no tariffs on mexico. some of the countries we are dealing with are great partners, great military allies, and we're going to be looking at that strongly. the tariffs do not go effective for at least another 15 days. we're going to see who is treating us fairly, who is not. part of that is going to be military. who is paying the bills, who is not paying the bills. we subsidize rich countries with our military, they pay not 100 cents on the dollar or 50 cents on the dollar, and they are massively wealthy countries. we have to stop that. this enters into the equation also. very interesting, i saw a tweet that came in from elon musk who
is using our wonderful space facilities and did a great job three weeks ago. he said, for example, an american car going to china pays 25% import duty, but a chinese car coming to the united states only pays 2 partnership 5%, a ten-fold difference. an american car going to china, think of that, pays 25% import duty. we send our car over there, pay 25%. they send their car over here, 2.5%. everybody knows it. they have known it for years and never did anything about it. it's god to change. we're going to be doing a reciprocal tax program at some point, so that if china's going to charge us 25% or india's going to charge us 75%, and we charge them nothing, or they are
50, 75, 25, we're going to be at the same number. it's a mirror tax. so they charge us 50, we charge them 50. right now, we charge them nothing. it's called the mirror tax. we're going to be doing a lot of that. we really, the first year we really set the stage. a lot of it had to do with structurally, we had to go through certain procedures in order to get to this point, but now we're at this point. american companies have not been treated fairly, and some american companies, frankly, took advantage of it, went to other countries and developed in mexico massive automobile plants, taking our jobs away and taking our companies to make the cars and send them across the border without tax, without
anything. so we lose the jobs, they make the cars, get the benefits, and sell the cars back into the united states. we're changing things, and going to have a lot of great relationships. i think companies will be very happy in the end. i think countries are going to be very happy, we'll show great flexibility, and, again, many of the countries that treat us the worst on trade and on military are our allies as they call them. we just want fairness. we just want fairness. we want everything to be reciprocal and i think in the end, we're going to have a lot of great jobs, going to have a lot of great company, and all coming back in our country. you see it the other day, chrysler is comiing back to michigan with a big plant. you've not seen that in a long
time, folks, not in a long time. so because i sort of grew up with this group of people, i know about the steel industry and the aluminum industry. we're going to bring them back. i feel like maybe a few of you might like to say a couple words, and there's only about 25 million people watching, so don't worry about it. if you want to say something, come on up. >> i work in kentucky, and right now, we're running at 40% capacity. two years ago, we shut down 60% of the capacity when we had ha downturn in the market. my father worked in the industry and worked at that plant for fourth year40 years, so this hits home for all of us at home. these tariffs in place gives us the ability to come back to 100% capacity, invest in over $100 million in our plant, and over
300 some odd jobs are brought back to the community so i'd like to say thank you. >> thank you, thank you very much. [ applause ] the one thing, also, the quality of the steel is really much higher, of a much better quality, which for some things is very important. please. >> i'm scott sarge, president of local 2227. i have a story about my father in the '80s. he lost his job due to imports coming into this country. and i want to tell you what that does to a man with six kids is devastating. so i never forgot that looking into his eyes, in my household, what it does to a family. you hear about it, but when you're involve and impacts you, it never leaves you.
with that being said, your story did not end, and for all of the people that i represent in my union, i never want to see it happen again for these workers and these folks, i appreciate the opportunity, and i'm humbled with this, so it is very important to us. i never want to see it happen again. and i say that sincerely from my heart, and i thank you for the opportunity. >> your father, herman is looking down. >> oh, he's still alive. >> oh, he is. then he's even more proud of you. [ laughter ] he's even more proud. anybody else? please, come on up. >> i'm ron, steel worker, and just wanted to say, in 2009, my plant supplied majority of the
armor for the humvees and others in theater. sad to say because of the imports coming into the country, our plant is out in september. at one time, we had 400 members. we are going to be down to 71. these tariffs have an impact, and maybe not for our plant, but the others out there. >> appreciate it. anybody else? anybody else? accept great jobs, right? you're going to be happy. seeing things change rapidly, and so, it's really my honor to start this process, it's going to be a very fair process, very fair to other countries, especially those that treat us well. we look forward to it and having a lot of mills opening up, a lot of plants opening up, steel and alumin aluminum, and other things. we'll be doing other things, very positive things, but you
are great people. would you like to take a picture of the oval office? assume you've been in the oval office? come on, let's go and do that. let's go and do that. yes, we're going to do that. let's go into the oval office, sign this up, go into the oval office and snap a picture, okay? okay. thank you. [ applause ] [ applause ]
>> about time, right? >> yes, sir. >> been waiting for a long time. >> yes, sir. >> thank you, sir. >> get up here, mike. come on. let's go take a picture in the oval office, okay. >> yes, sir. >> thank you very much, everybody. thank you. it's a great day. train shipping, it's a big deal. says it's at 2%, but it is