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hotel room. stormy daniels is also expected at the courthouse later today. trump's attorneys who made their own arguments in the case, they will be there as well. our investigator shimon prokupecz is outside the courthouse in new york city. shimon, what is the court deciding, what could we see today, and what do the president's attorneys, who will be inside the courtroom, want? >> reporter: essentially the judge here is going to decide whether or not the fbi and the prosecutors from the u.s. attorney's office here in the southern district of new york in manhattan will have access to the information that they seize aid week ago today of t. it was last monday morning that they raided michael cohen where they removed all sorts of documents and information. the government has not been able to review any of that information because michael cohen's attorneys and now the president's attorneys are arguing that there is privileged material in those documents. in the case of the president,
the lawyers for him are arguing in an unprecedented fashion that he should review, the president and his lawyers should review some of that material before the government could even start to look at it. they're claiming there is information there that is privileged, that is the attorney-client privilege, and that they should have access to it. wolf, the government's position on this is from what they know, based on their investigation, which they say has been months long, they say they've gathered a lot of information regarding some of michael cohen's dealings for their investigation. they don't see a lot of information that would pertain to any kind of privilege with the president. in fact, the government's position has been that based on the e-mails that they have reviewed, there aren't a lot of e-mails between the president and michael cohen, so they don't see how privilege would apply in this case as to the president. >> shimon, why is stormy daniels in this federal courtroom today? >> reporter: well, she's certainly the big draw here, wolf.
there is probably dozens of cameras here at this point, certainly more cameras than were here on friday. i was here on friday. there weren't this many people here. but quite honestly, it's just theater. michael avenatti decided he was going to bring her here today. she certainly could be a potential witness in this case down the line, because as we've reported, the fbi and prosecutors here are investigating, are looking at that deal that michael cohen made with her, that hush money that was paid to her. that is part of the investigation. so down the line, we could see her, if there is a prosecution, become a witness. but as for today, she really has no role here. she's just coming purely as a spectator, wolf. >> shimon, we're going to get back to you. there will be a lot of drama unfolding in that federal courtroom in a little while. shimon, thanks very much. now to the epic battle unfolding between a sitting president of the united states and the fbi director he fired. his first interview and a book
he wrote, "a higher loyalty " i a scathing book he writes about the president mentally and morally. >> i don't think he's medically unfit to be president, i think he's morally unfit to be president. a person who sees moral equivalence in charlottesville, a man who talks about women like pieces of meat, who lies about issues big and small and insists the american people believe it, that person is not fit to be our leader on moral grounds. our president must embodily respect and adhere to the morals of this country. this president is not able to do that. he's morally unfit to be president. >> in another astonishing comment, comey said the russians may have dirt on the president of the united states. listen to what he said in that abc news interview.
>> reporter: do you think the russians have something on donald trump? >> i think it's possible. i don't know. these are words i never thought i would utter about the president of the united states, but it's possible. >> that's stunning. you can't say for certain that the president of the united states is not compromised by the russians. >> it is stunning and i wish i wasn't saying it, but it's the truth. it always struck me and still strikes me as unlikely, and i would have been able to say with high confidence about any other president i dealt with, but i can't. it's possible. >> what about special counsel robert mueller's russia investigation? comey warns that the country will face a major crisis if president trump tries to shut it down. >> reporter: what will it mean if president trump tries to fire robert mueller? >> it would, i hope, set off alarm bells that this is his most serious attack yet on the rule of law. and it would be something that our entire country, again, democrats and republicans that
is higher than all the normal fights about policy, and it would be to the everlasting shame of partisans if they were unable to see that higher level and to protect it. >> president trump fired back at james comey today in a tweet. he accused comey of committing, quote, many crimes but did not elaborate. earlier the president said comey would go down as, quote, the worst fbi director in history. our senior white house correspondent jeff zeleny is traveling with the president in hialeah, south florida right now. jeff, do we expect to hear more reaction to the comey interview? >> reporter: certainly, wolf, one of the central questions was, did president trump watch that interview last evening? we have got an answer to that. white house press secretary sarah sanders telling reporters as they were flying to florida, that the president did indeed watch, in her words, bits and pieces of that interview. we certainly know the president firing back on social media, on
twitter, accusing james comey of lying to congress, committing a crime. but wolf, so far, as we stand here today in this school gymnasium in hialeah, florida, the president not mentioning james comey at all, not mentioning him once. he's listening to hispanic business leaders here talking about job growth, talking about the republican tax cuts. that's what republicans hope he sticks to. of course they're trying to win the midterm elections here. so far the president not going taf jam after james comey at all as he begins a full week in plor flfl. he'll be in his mar-a-lago resort meeting with prime minister abe. the president still seething about james comey. so far the president not weighing in, at least publicly, to james comey. >> see if he says anything.
we'll, of course, get back to you. jeff zeleny, thank you very much. let's get some insight from our panel. james comey's bombshell interview and the president's response. we have our law enforcement analyst james bach. he's making his first appearance since the comey interview. we also have carla demergian and senior analyst gloria borger. i think it was a pretty stunning interview when he says the president of the united states is morally unfit to be president. >> morally unfit, doesn't reflect the values of this country, et cetera, et cetera. to me the headlines are the obstruction of justice, this question where comey said it's certainly possible there is some evidence of obstruction of justice. he says it depends on intent. obviously he's just a witness in this case. he's not prosecuting it but that's the number one. the second one, of course, is this notion that he could not
rule out that the president had been compromised by the russians, period. and we also know that in a later interview with usa today, he said, even in private, the president refuses to criticize vladimir putin. so you have the former director of the fbi, who is no longer investigating this case, but was and raises these two issues which are, to me, sort of the key to what mueller, the special counsel, is investigating, and we also know comey will be an important witness, or already has been, an important witness to bob mueller. >> the fear is if the russians do have dirt on the president of the united states, they could bla blackmail him, they could use that in terms of their policy negotiations. >> comey inside this interview, without going into too much detail about the video with the hookers in russia, that actually
he could not believe that it was this out-of-body experience, that in his first meeting -- i believe it was his first meeting with the president, he had to actually talk to him about this piece of intelligence and how nervous that made him and how uncomfortable you can imagine that made the fbi director. >> it's amazing. you hear this kind of talk from the former director of the fbi and you also hear similar kind of talk from the former director of the intelligence agency, john brennan. both of these individuals have raised all these fears about the current president of the united states. cara, james comey heard that the president fired him on the radio in los angeles. >> they had televisions on the wall, and i saw "comey resigns" on the back screens. >> resigns? >> yes. and it changed to "comey fired." now i'm staring at it and the
audience could see my face change, so they turned around and looked at the back. i went into a room to find out, have i been fired? because i did not expect to be fired. >> what's your first thought? >> that's crazy. how could that be? >> weren't you angry? >> i don't remember being angry. i thought, it's crazy to be firing me. i'm leaving an investigation of russian influence and whether anybody in the trump orbit had coordinated and conspired with the russians? that makes no sense at all. >> the day after you were fired, the president meets in the office of the foreign minister. called you a nut job and said the pressure had been relieved. what did you think when you saw that? >> wow. first of all, what were the russians doing in the oval office? i'm thinking, that's crazy, without any americans being present. and two, the pretense is melting away. the bit about, you were fired because of how you handled the e-mail investigation is melting away. you were fired because of the
russia investigation. >> cara, i want your reaction to what we just saw. >> he's going through the slow process of the reality of the situation that he thought was completely i completely implausible before it happened, right? and now it becomes very personal because he's being pushed out. he kind of went underground for a little while to regroup, but now we see this book come out where he's not pulling any punches and assessing the president on all fronts. it's more details of what has been one of the more surprising and eyebrow-raising episodes in this, and frankly one that started off many chapters of the russia probe story. he probably would have played differently had comey stayed in the fbi. >> i want to talk to you about that because you're a former special assistant to comey,
you're a former special agent, supervisory special agent over at the fbi. and you were with comey in california when he looked up on the screen, saw cnn, "comey fired," then you flew back to washington with him. tell bus about that. >> we did, but there was a lot that went on during that period of time. think about the chaos of the moment. you know all these officials in the intelligence committee, they have a staff that travels with them, they have a communicator that keeps in constant contact with the establishment. but folks always assume that that nerve center at the fbi is going to know what's going on. we called back and nobody knew what was going on. we were learning it all from cnn so it was complete chaos. once a decision was made that it's time to turn back to washington -- you can all remember the freeway ride to
lax. it was chaos that turned into kind of a sobering atmosphere, where it's sinking in for the director that the dream job he had, the pinnacle of his career, came to an end a lot quicker than he thought. he still had six years left. >> did you guys call the white house or the chief of staff or the -- >> there was a direct contact with the white house from comey on the road. we were in touch with the department headquarters, the office of justice. there was a question whether comey could even return by aircraft. it went from frustration to anger when we learned that. not only do they humiliate the director, but when he's dealing with all this chaos. it was so mishandled. there was one interesting part
in the interview, where he talks about giving comey a glass of wine for the backseat. this was a real key part about leadership and when you're in the city, he would rather sit in the hotel and get room service so his security detail could go out and enjoy the city. because he would have to take eight or ten people with him. i said, sir, you know one glass in room service costs the same as a bottle if you bring your own. since we were coming back prematurely, i have this bottle of wine here. i think i'll concentrate on public service. >> he drank that glass of red wine in a coffee cup. >> we don't have booze on the planes and we don't have wine glasses, so the only thing we could find was this old, di nng
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james comey on the record. we've heard plenty of his comments about president trump. you're looking at live pictures from new york city right now. we're waiting to see this federal courtroom, this federal procedure get underway. the president's long-time personal attorney michael cohen. i saw him earlier walking toward the federal courthouse. there he is going past all the
cameras, all the reporters, all the crews there waiting to catch a glimpse of him. we're also standing by for stormy daniels, the former porn star. she is going to be showing up in that courtroom as well. quite a spectacle anticipated. we have reporters, producers, cameras on the scene. we'll have full coverage of that. let's get back to the new comey back right now. comey, the former fbi director, talks about hillary clinton in the book as well and the reasons for his decision to reveal the existence of the investigation entered more of her e-mails a few days before the presidential election. >> i was operating in a world where hillary clinton was going to beat donald trump. so i'm sure that it was a factor. like i said, i don't remember spelling it out, but it had to have been, that she's going to be elected president, and if i hide this from the american people, she'll be illegitimate the moment she's elected.
>> he sort of contradicted himself, gloria. on the one hand he said politics don't play a role at all, we'll move forward with these investigations as we see them unfolding. then you just heard him say maybe the notion that hillary clinton was going to be elected did play a role. >> right, and he said as soon as i start wondering whose political party is affected, we're done. you see this kind of therapeutic confessional from him where he talks about george stephanopolous as being a deeply flawed individual trying to make decisions. and when he mentioned hillary clinton saying i shivved her, he tries to make the case he didn't when, in fact, he did, and he's trying to rationalize that because it's clear his family is democratic. his wife and kids were for
hillary clinton. he makes that very clear. so listening to him last night, the clinton people are not going to be satisfied. they say, come on. you made a huge mistake. you knew what you were doing and you did it, anyway. and he doesn't deny it, but he talks about how it, quote, sucked to be him during the last ten days of the campaign because he knew he was going to get in trouble one way or another. i don't think he completely explained his rationale in a way that would make the clinton people feel that he was fair at all. >> one point i would make on that is, obviously this is a contentious issue. this cut many different ways. but when mrs. clinton said she felt shivved, that means some kind of motive. i know james comey didn't go in making that decision intending to cause harm. you simply live your life one way. he knew it was a possibility. in the fbi you can't make decisions based on what the
political calculus will be. last night, 10:00 p.m. eastern on one network, you had the pope, and on the other network, you had jim comey. what a dichotomy. he is quick to tell us he's flawed, i think we all are -- >> here's a point jim comey raised for all democrats. he suggested ten days before the election he had to announce publicly the fbi was reopening the e-mail investigation because they found thousands, hundreds of thousands of e-mails, on anthony weiner's laptop material. he was married to the along-tim assistant to hillary clinton. comey said if he wouldn't have done that, and he assumed she would be elected president, maybe her election would be seen as irregular or corrupt because he didn't inform congress and the american people that he had reopened the investigation. >> definitely, wolf. there is a lot going on there. i think one point i take issue with is he did announce it
publicly. >> then he can tell congress that the investigation -- >> that says more about this town. this is more about the swamp than jim comey. >> you have kind of this shakespearean drama with comey trying to be the hero. he makes us draw the line at that point rather than waiting before he goes through the e-mails. >> 11 days before a presidential election. >> he continues to try to be the one setting standards, but he's not perfect, and unfortunately, when the stakes are this high and you're talking about an institution that's not supposed to be ebbing and flowing with a person. what we've got here is we have human beings in these cases and they're thinking they're doing the right thing and screwing up at the same time. >> you know, josh, the other thing that deeply irritates the democrats as you well know, as all of us know, at the end of july 2016, the fbi opened a
separate investigation into possible cooperation collusion between the trump campaign and the russians. and he stayed silent on that in july, august, september, october, early november. he spoke about the investigation reopening for hillary clinton, but he never spoke about the trump investigation. >> this is true. and what i would say to that, obviously these are very tough issues for people to deal w. the fbi, and i'm not here to defend james comey, his book will defend itself. i've worked many investigations. i never had two investigations that worked on the same track simultaneously at exactly the same time. they're always in different states of existence. so in this case when he announced the hillary clinton closure, it was being closed. when you fast-forward to donald trump and that investigation with the campaign, the fbi didn't know what it had. if it had come out and said we're investigating this matter, the bad guys also listen in. i'm not defending. i understand it's very tough. here's what i will say, though, about this book.
it's about leadership, and one of the key areas of leadership jim comey -- people call him righteous and san righteous -- and one area he talked about was vulnerability. you see that in this book. >> vulnerability doesn't work. >> as long as we're peeling the layers of the onion here, don't forget president obama and his intelligence people going to capitol hill and saying, look, we know that there is something going on. the russians are trying to hack this election. and there was a decision made and they would blame it on the republican leadership in congress who said, don't make it public. don't make it public. so there is a lot of other stuff swirling around as if comey drama is playing out with hillary clinton. and, i mean, what was stunning to me was, when he talks to the president about this after the
election, the president didn't care about the russia involvement in our election. what he cared about was how they were going to make sure in a pr way that it didn't delegitimize donald trump's presidency. >> you heard kellyanne conway this morning saying, well, if it was so important, why didn't they offer up the information? why did they have to be asked? as if it's not important for the new leader in the world to show his team that he takes these matters seriously. >> i think they went on the assumption that hillary clinton would win as well and that played a role. everybody stick around. there's more we're watching. thanks very much. a reminder we will be hearing much more from james comey this week as he sits down live with our own jake tapper. that's at 4:00 p.m. on "the lead" this coming thursday. as the president's lawyer gets ready to appear in a federal courtroom today, a new report suggests michael cohen
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it to pay stormy daniels, the former porn star, $130,000 to cover up her alleged affair with donald trump. and so we reported on friday that he also negotiated a nondisclosure agreement for venture capital elliott brody. so we learn that the fee for this deal went to central consultants, the same company that was used for stormy daniels. then when elliott broidy found that central consultants was used for stormy daniels, he made the first of the payments and said, hey, i don't want to use this anymore, i want to pay you guys directly. >> a new story about an alleged
affair with donald trump jr. was shut down by attorney michael cohen. what can you tell us about that? >> this first came out when donald jr.'s wife filed for divorce, there was allegations that he had had an affair with a member of a singing duo back in 2011-2012. we reported that in 2013 this story almost came out in ""us weekly" weekly". they had a solid source for us. they called the trump organization and got a call back from michael cohen. they were on the phone with "us weekly" basically threatening legal action and going on and on, cursing. so it went on so long, they put him auto muon mute and they wer sitting around the speakerphone listening to michael cohen. ultimately they decided it wasn't worth it because at the time donald trump jr. was kind of a fading reality star, so they didn't want to have any litigation so they just speiked
the story. >> how does it affect anything, if at all, that stormy daniels is about to enter that courthou courthouse? michael cohen is inside, new attorneys inside also. how does all of this fit into this? because the fbi has been investigating cohen now, we're told, for months. >> what we understand is one of the things they're looking at is was there a conspiracy to cover up issues before the election? in general, michael cohen certainly was the fixer for donald trump, so was there any conspiracy, were there any laws broken in terms of trying to conceal information from the public? >> important information, indeed. michael rockfeld of the "wall street journal," thanks very much. we're going to take a quick break. when we come back, we'll go back to that federal courthouse in new york city. it could be pretty lively. stormy daniels is about to show up with her attorney, michael avenatti. the president's long-time attorney michael cohen is already inside.
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following breaking news, some looiive pictures coming in from new york city. the president's personal attorney michael cohen just arrived in the federal courthouse in new york. the hearing getting underway in just a few minutes. they're trying to make sure documents seized from his home, hotel and office are not attorney-client privilege. trump's legal team is now joining that same fight against the department of justice. adding to the tension in this
federal courtroom. also expected, by the way, at today's hearing, if that were not enough, stormy daniels, the porn star michael cohen secretly paid $130,000 to stay quiet about her alleged affair with donald trump. cnn bryn is outside the courthouse. set the scene for us, bryn. what do we expect to see today? >> we're less than an hour away from this hearing and we know that michael cohen is inside. we did see stormy daniels' attorney michael avenatti go in the courthouse but then he left again, and we have yet to see stormy daniels who is a spectator for this particular hearing. a federal judge is going to do just what you said, review whether or not their prosecutors, u.s. attorneys, are allowed to go through these documents seized in the raid of michael cohen's home, his office, his hotel room just one week ago today. of course, we know that cohen's attorneys say that's protected under attorney-client privilege,
they shouldn't be allowed to go into it, asking for a special master, what it's called, to go through those documents to make sure attorney-client privilege is protected. but now they're fighting on two fronts. as you just mentioned, trump's attorneys filed a different motion late last night saying it should be trump himself that gets access to those documents before anyone else goes through them. the u.s. attorney's office already filed paperwork saying it really doesn't make any sense because they already know that e-mail correspondence they have seize d in that raid, there is none between michael cohen and mr. trump, and really that would be unprecedented and would show bad movement if they allowed the hearing to move forward. we know the hearing is to start about 2:00. we don't know how long it will be before she makes her decision, but we doect it
today, wolf. >> joining us now to discuss this, joseph marino, former prosecu justice department prosecutor. set the scene if you will as a former justice prosecutor. >> we have very strict policies in place to protect people from attorney-client privilege when it comes to due process. filter teams, which are unassociated attorneys, to review documents is a well-established practice. so to deviate from the practice is a really high bar. i've noticed. distinction, too. last week mr. cohen has been told that the president gets to take the first crack. he seems to be holding out for an opportunity for a special master to do that task. that's probably a nod to how difficult it's going to be for him to get his way. >> the fbi, they've been
collecting documents for months and months leading up to the actual raids the other day. i went through the documents submitted to the federal judge k kimber wood by president trump's new lawyers, three lawyers, who actually signed this. so the president has new lawyers. what's intriguing is the president's lawyers, michael cohen's lawyers, are in the same page against the u.s. justice department, the u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. how unusual is that? >> it's unusual to have basically three parties duking it out. and just because mr. cohen's lawyers and the president's lawyers are on the same page right now does not mean that there might not be some daylight between them going forward. so i could absolutely see situations in the future where there could be documents where mr. cohen's lawyers want them revealed but donald trump's do not. it should be interesting going
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we have more on the escalating war of words between james comey and president trump. comey now commenting on the relationship with putin. what he heard trump say and not say. >> at least in my experience. he won't criticize vladimir putin. even in private. even in a meeting with three people in the oval office, he is arguing that he gave a good answer when he said essentially, we are the same kind of killers that putin's thugs are. and that struck me. >> joining us now, spider marks. how does that jive with the president mentioning putin by name. he's gone ahead, authorized ex-pugs of 60 russian diplomats.
he seems to have changes his position in terms of being willing to speak publicly. >> i think more importantly than what he says, but what he does. it's an impactful and at this point very meaningful in terms of our relationship. emerging, i would say relationship with russia. . there are opportunities for the united states and russia to try to figure this thing out. so it's not so very try olic, and in many cases, black or white. what we did in syria here over the past 48 hours is significant. sends a very powerful message to russia, but within that chaos that exists in part of the world there's an opportunity for the united states to figure out what's next. nikki haley suggested that yesterday we're also told the
president was so angry when he realized that the u.s. was expelling 60 russian diplomats. some of them being accused of being spies from the united states. compared to the small number european countries are expelling. he was taken by some of his national security advisers. again, comparison is the thief of joy, you're trying to compare yourself with other nations in europe. and you're trying to establish some quantifiable standard. the united states clearly has, is a larger presence for the russians, and i think it's fair to say that every russian in the united states that's affiliated with their embassy is a spy. i don't think that's a stretch by any meanings. >> every time the president says he wants u.s. troops out of
syria quickly, let others take care of it, doesn't that embolden the russian president answer there? if they know at some point the u.s. troops will be out? >> again, you don't always want to telegraph your moves, and the president has in this case. i can't get into the president's ca case. our national security apparatus stepped up and sid, there needs to be a more measured presence. >> look at the op eds that are popping up in the wall street journal and the post. it's important the united states maintain a military presence and diplomatic presence in that part of the world. we cannot evaporate if we want a lasting advantage.
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